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Will Sill

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Nov 2, 2002, 10:07:57 AM11/2/02
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Not long ago My son bought Rand McNally's "Deluxe Street Finder 2000"
complete with GPS antenna (bearing the Rand McNally name and made in
New Zealand) and used it with satisfaction on his Dell laptop. He
quit driving and gave the setup to me but I find it does not connect
up to my Gateway 1450e running Windoze XP. The problem seems
to be different cable connections.

Junior may have given me an orphan because I just scanned through the
last 5000+ messages in this group and saw no subject that appeared to
address my question.-- which simply put, is this: Can I run this from
the Gateway, and if so how?

TIA for any helpful remarks.

Will KD3XR


Dale DePriest

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Nov 2, 2002, 10:16:26 AM11/2/02
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What do you mean it doesn't connect? It uses a standard 9 pin connector and
should work on your serial port. How are you getting power to the unit?

Dale

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Will Sill

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Nov 2, 2002, 4:46:39 PM11/2/02
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"Will Sill" <wi...@epix.net> wrote:

> Not long ago My son bought Rand McNally's "Deluxe Street Finder 2000"
> complete with GPS antenna (bearing the Rand McNally name and made in
> New Zealand) and used it with satisfaction on his Dell laptop. He
> quit driving and gave the setup to me but I find it does not connect
> up to my Gateway 1450e running Windoze XP. The problem seems
> to be different cable connections.
>
> Junior may have given me an orphan because I just scanned through the
> last 5000+ messages in this group and saw no subject that appeared to
> address my question.-- which simply put, is this: Can I run this from
> the Gateway, and if so how?
>
> TIA for any helpful remarks.

"Dale DePriest" <Dal...@cwnet.com> answered:


>What do you mean it doesn't connect? It uses a standard 9 pin connector and
>should work on your serial port. How are you getting power to the unit?

Be careful not to over-estimate my knowledge. I have no clue, so you
may correctly assume I have no idea what to do, and I promise not to
act insulted!

The antenna has two conectors - a 9-pin that I'd call a serial
connector, and a round 6-pin connector such is used by a PS-2 mouse.
The Gateway does not have the latter but has 2 USB ports. Is it
likely I can get it to function with an adapter between the 6-pin
cable connector and the USB port?

Will KD3XR
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Dale DePriest

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Nov 2, 2002, 5:45:42 PM11/2/02
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The 9 pin will plug into the serial port. If you don't have one you will
need a USB to serial adapter to have a serial port to plug the gps into. The
ps-2 port is only to supply power to the gps. If this unit will also accpet
batteries then you won't need the ps-2 connector, otherwise you will need to
devise a way to extract the 5V from the USb to hook to the ps-2 connector.
It should be doable.

Dale

Will Sill

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Nov 2, 2002, 6:09:20 PM11/2/02
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"Dale DePriest" <Dal...@cwnet.com> recently wrote these words:

>The 9 pin will plug into the serial port. If you don't have one you will
>need a USB to serial adapter to have a serial port to plug the gps into. The
>ps-2 port is only to supply power to the gps. If this unit will also accpet
>batteries then you won't need the ps-2 connector, otherwise you will need to
>devise a way to extract the 5V from the USb to hook to the ps-2 connector.
>It should be doable.

Thank you for the prompt & courteous help. I'll try getting a
USB-to-PS-2 adapter.

skramblr

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Nov 2, 2002, 8:13:11 PM11/2/02
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Better read that message again. You need a USB to 9-pin Serial adapter (not
PS2).

-Skramblr

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Will Sill

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Nov 2, 2002, 8:59:45 PM11/2/02
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"skramblr" <skra...@hotmail.com> recently wrote these words:

Sorry, but I think you missed the first acts of the play. The GPS
ant has both a serial connector (presumably for the data) and a round
PS-2 connector, no doubt to filch power. The serial connecter goes
to the serial port, and I'm hopeful an adapter in a USB port will
allow the GPS to think it is conected to a PS-2 port.

I may be wrong but what ca I lose by trying?

Will KD3XR

Ross

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Nov 2, 2002, 9:51:05 PM11/2/02
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"Will Sill" <wi...@epix.net> wrote in message
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> "skramblr" <skra...@hotmail.com> recently wrote these words:

<snip>


> an adapter in a USB port will allow the GPS to think it is conected to a
PS-2 port.

PS/2 (MD6) F - USB A (M) Adaptor worked fine on a leadtek GPS with a
Serial/PS2 connection. This was under win 98se.


Mike

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Nov 2, 2002, 10:41:50 PM11/2/02
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I am curious what kind of Gateway computer you have that has no serial port.
Can you give a serial number - perhaps it is sitting there in front of you disguised
in a way that you do not see it!

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Will Sill

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Nov 3, 2002, 7:41:04 AM11/3/02
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"Mike" <mikean...@yahoo.com> recently wrote these words:

>I am curious what kind of Gateway computer you have that has no serial port.
>Can you give a serial number - perhaps it is sitting there in front of you disguised
>in a way that you do not see it!

I wasn't clear. My Gateway 1450e _does_ have a 9-pin serial port,
along with a monitor port, a parallel port, and 2 USB ports.
Strangely enough the serial port is not shown in the manual, and there
is no port that will accept a PS-2 (round 6-pin) connector directly.
Several have suggested that the appropriate adapter will allow the
system to run.

Will KD3XR

Will Sill

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Nov 3, 2002, 7:56:53 AM11/3/02
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"Ross" <b...@bla.ca> recently wrote these words:

Thanx. I plan to try it.

Will KD3XR

Mike

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Nov 3, 2002, 8:39:44 AM11/3/02
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Are you sure that you must plug both cables in? For the most part the difference
between ps-2 and the 9-pin serial connector is just the plug; and in fact there
are many $2 adapters that convert one plug the other. They may have just
given you two plugs so that you can use whichever is convienient. Without
the manual it is hard to know.

Have you searched the www.randmcnally.com website for the manual?

A quick look on the website did find a software update for streetfinder deluxe
2000. Winxp was a significant update - and most software that involves i/o
requires a software upgrade. You should be sure to download the update and
apply it.


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Mike

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Nov 3, 2002, 8:56:09 AM11/3/02
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Note alao - many notebooks give you the option to yurn off the serial port to save power.
No ps2 port - i'm glad i have a dellX


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Will Sill

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Nov 3, 2002, 1:04:36 PM11/3/02
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"Mike" <mikean...@yahoo.com> recently wrote these words:

>Are you sure that you must plug both cables in? For the most part the difference


>between ps-2 and the 9-pin serial connector is just the plug; and in fact there
>are many $2 adapters that convert one plug the other. They may have just
>given you two plugs so that you can use whichever is convienient. Without
>the manual it is hard to know.

Like Sgt Schultz, "I know nothing" - or almost nothing. I do know
the GPS doesn't work without both of the two cords connected. I know
one of them doesn't plug in without an adapter. And I know that a
inquiry to Rand McNally produced a non-helpful answer. (no support)

>Have you searched the www.randmcnally.com website for the manual?
>
>A quick look on the website did find a software update for streetfinder deluxe
>2000. Winxp was a significant update - and most software that involves i/o
>requires a software upgrade. You should be sure to download the update and
>apply it.

No, I haven't done that - chose not to bother until I can at least
connect! Thanx.

Will KD3XR

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