Strong aftershock off Honshu prompts tsunami alert, canceled after 90 minutes
Belba Grubb II
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0002ksa.php
http://english.samaylive.com/world-news/676485157/7-4-magnitude-earthquake-jolts-japan.html
No immediate word of damage or casualties. No word in the current
online news if there was any sort of tsunami. That would be
interesting, if there was, after TEPCO's release of some contaminated
water yesterday. I can't find any reports in the news that one
occurred, however, let alone if it involved any of that water.
Barb
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"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that
something else is more important than fear."
-- Ambrose Redmoon
Belba Grubb II
be a problem: http://japan.failedrobot.com/
Other effects from the shock are reported in the "Japan Times":
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110408x4.html
Barb
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“Knowledge is power. Information is liberating. Education is the
premise of progress, in every society, in every family.”
-- Kofi Annan
Weatherlawyer
> Extra radiation following this recent big aftershock doesn't seem to
> be a problem: http://japan.failedrobot.com/
>
> Other effects from the shock are reported in the "Japan Times":http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110408x4.html
The research on foreshocks and aftershocks is bulshit. It's quite
obvious that they know nothing. But you must continue to believe what
you like.
The radiation monitor looks rather sad over Fukishima but the best of
the news of that sort militarry nature and bad news of a military
nature at that, always gets buried under domestic politics for little
men.
The day the first plutonium from Japan came to Britain it made one
broadcast on the BBC then it got shelved so we could hear crap from
the government about the budged deficit.
Today it's all about Portugal and Iceland defaulting on the Bush bunco
banko farce. What's a few millisieverts among friends when funny money
needs laundering?
I liked this play Doh! site:
> http://blogs.forbes.com/christopherhelman/2011/03/16/what-are-millisieverts-and-should-tokyo-be-scared-of-them/
"tobacco leaves absorb isotopes as they grow"
Well they do, I suppose.
Do you think anyone will mention the obvious?
Belba Grubb II
per online news. Of note, an otherwise reliable tweeter I've been
following referred to these power flashes as "strange luminous
phenomena": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgooTL9hEc0
That was quite a shock yesterday.
Of note for anyone collecting historical information on earthquake
lights was this reference from the tweeter, I believe dating back to
the 1703 Genroku quake: http://no-sword.jp/blog/2011/03/earthquake_lights_over_edo.html.
Also, an interesting article in "Japan Times" on Japan's need for
better crisis communication to world correspondents: "During the
aftermath of the Great Hanshin Earthquake that struck Kobe and the
surrounding areas in 1995, the minister for foreign affairs was
actually part of the crisis team. This time around, there was no
information made available by an English-speaker directly from the
government. Although the government did start using simultaneous
interpreters, as anyone who has had contact with both languages will
know, the inherent vagueness of Japanese creates many challenges in
translation, which risks confusing the audience further. Therefore, it
is imperative that the government have an English-speaking minister or
spokesman available and visible to provide credibility and leadership
during such times.
"These challenges are of course also opportunities for us to better
ready ourselves in case of any future incidents, and at the same time
will help to make the bonds between Japan and its many overseas
friends stronger.
When Japan has the attention of the entire globe, it must not ignore
the outside world."
-- From "With the world looking in, Japan needs to speak out," at
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/eo20110409a1.html
Barb
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http://altjapan.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/04/guiding-jizo.html
-- h/t to Matt_Alt (note: the start of this grossed me out, but
that must be a cultural thing; the entire video, from an anime made in
the 70s about a tsunami is well worth watching)
John Szalay
news:969b8ae5-7e66-48fe...@f18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> At least 4 dead from yesterday's major aftershock, and 100 injured,
> per online news.
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Tsunami-hit towns forgot warnings from ancestors !
MIYAKO, Japan
Modern sea walls failed to protect coastal towns
from Japan destructive tsunami last month. But in
the hamlet of Aneyoshi, a single centuries-old tablet saved the day.
" High dwellings are the peace and harmony of our descendants,"
The stone slab reads.
"Remember the calamity of the great tsunamis.
Do not build any homes below this point."
It was advice the dozen or so households of Aneyoshi heeded, and their
homes emerged unscathed from a disaster that flattened low-lying
communities elsewhere and killed thousands along Japan northeastern
shore.
Hundreds of such markers dot the coastline, some more than 600 years old.
Collectively they form a crude warning system for Japan, whose long
coasts along major fault lines have made it a repeated target of
earthquakes and tsunamis over the centuries.
The markers don't all indicate where it,s safe to build.
Some simply stand or stood, washed away by the tsunami as daily reminders
of the risk.
"If an earthquake comes, beware of tsunamis"
reads one. In the bustle of modern life, many forgot.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/Tsunami-
hit_towns_forgot_warnings_from_ancestors.html
Belba Grubb
> MIYAKO, Japan
> Modern sea walls failed to protect coastal towns
> from Japan destructive tsunami last month. But in
> the hamlet of Aneyoshi, a single centuries-old tablet saved the day.
>
> " High dwellings are the peace and harmony of our descendants,"
>
> The stone slab reads.
>
> "Remember the calamity of the great tsunamis.
> Do not build any homes below this point."
>
> It was advice the dozen or so households of Aneyoshi heeded, and their
> homes emerged unscathed from a disaster that flattened low-lying
> communities elsewhere and killed thousands along Japan northeastern
> shore.
The story of Aneyoshi is really amazing. I liked this from the
article, too--it's so true:
“It takes about three generations for people to forget. Those that
experience the disaster themselves pass it to their children and their
grandchildren, but then the memory fades.”
The Japanese have longer memory spans that we Americans - I remember
watching New Orleans-area news broadcasts back in 2005 as Katrina bore
down on the coast, and a few people interviewed mentioned Category 4
Betsy from 1965 and said something along the lines of "you're going to
see water in places you've never seen water before," as they packed up
their vehicles before evacuating, but most people didn't really
understand. They sure did afterwards, when Gustav came in; everybody
just basically packed up and left the coastal area....in another 30,
40 years, they probably won't do that again, if needed.
Barb
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Seismicity maps of the active zone (beachball heaven!):
http://twitpic.com/4ih58h
http://twitpic.com/4ih5zk
Weatherlawyer
It's a population intransit thing. In the west whole families mgrate
with economic flux but in Japan few do.
In Britian local councils used to be responsible for auditing where
development could take place. Thesedays the local builders and
developers just go to the national government to over-ride local bye-
laws and planning permission refusals.
The same is probably true in France and Italy where in the Vaucluse
region and adjoining climatological areas in Italylost a lot of
property, some of it inhabitted during the flash floodsthat sometime
occur.
It is thesame in Britain when there are flash flood though someof the
property is centuries old, adjoining developments make the old stuff
more susceptible to damage as the land drainage has altered.
We don't get earthquakesand Idon't believe a tidal wave has occurred
in England or Wales. But there is no shortage of fools and greedy
people.
John Szalay
>
> We don't get earthquakesand Idon't believe a tidal wave has occurred
> in England or Wales. But there is no shortage of fools and greedy
> people.
>
>
I grew up in Hawaii, my parents told me about the 1946 tsunami,
I was two , and the water washed under the house. they did,nt have the
warning system back then, so they were still in the home when the waves
came. we lived within 30ft of the beach. Later in 1960 & 64
we had already moved to higher ground. SO somebody learned.
I know I did.. my kids know as well..
Belba Grubb
Japan called Aneyoshi (or any related spelling). I began to wonder
about the truth in that story, but there is Aneyoshi, Japan, per
http://www.the-webcam-network.com/Japan/Aneyoshi/1407436.html . It is
the only mention of it I could find (in English - can't search in
Japanese), however. Nonetheless, the coordinates given, per Google,
mark a site here:
http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/maps/googleMapLocation.php?lat=35.416&lon=139.455&setLatLon=Set
On Apr 9, 9:34 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a population intransit thing. In the west whole families mgrate
> with economic flux but in Japan few do.
Good point. There aren't that many places to migrate to on the
islands. Fortunately, there are many hills in northern Japan, but
they are difficult to build on.
> It is thesame in Britain when there are flash flood though someof the
> property is centuries old, adjoining developments make the old stuff
> more susceptible to damage as the land drainage has altered.
That's sad. On the plus side is, for example, sea walls that are
centuries old and still doing their job.
>
> We don't get earthquakesand Idon't believe a tidal wave has occurred
> in England or Wales.
Two confirmed tsunamis, and another one possible.
They happen from landslides, too (which is nasty because there is no
warning, unlike with earthquakes), and that probably caused one in
what became East Scotland around 6100 B.C, per Wikipedia the all-
knowing (g): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunamis_in_the_United_Kingdom
. Seventy feet high, that one. And Cornwall and Galway, Ireland,
apparently got much smaller ones (but still destructive) that were
spawned by the great Lisbon quake in 1755.
No mention of one in the Bristol Channel, though, from the Lisbon
quake. It doesn't seem likely that the great Bristol flood of January
20, 1607 (1606, old calendar), was from a tsunami, as storm surge
would adequately explain it, given the right weather conditions, which
you assuredly get in that area in late January, and the shape of the
channel. It's not impossible it could have been a tsunami, though - I
saw the first 13 minutes or so of the BBC's "The Killer Wave of 1607,"
and was impressed by the reported surprise of the inhabitants--they
knew the weather and the country and shouldn't have been surprised if
it was from a storm. Also, the speed with which the wave came in,
"faster than a greyhound can run," sounds tsunami-like.
Arguing against it, again per Wikipedia, this time at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Channel_floods,_1607 , is the
historical record that Norfolk also experienced flooding the same
night, and only meteorological conditions could have caused that in
the Bristol Channel as well as in the North Sea. The flood waters in
Bristol also lasted for days, reportedly; I don't know if that is a
significant difference from the many hours tsunami waters remain in
the flood zone.
UK seismic hazard: http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/hazard/Hazard_UK.htm
Landslides; they're a problem to coasts even in low seismic/aseismic
areas.. The northwest Gulf of Mexico has had bad ones, I understand.
It's hard to convey that risk to lay people, though.
Barb
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"This legend or myth or dim memory of some ancient history has always
troubled me. In sleep I had the dreadful dream of the ineluctable
Wave, either coming out of the quiet sea, or coming in towering over
the green inlands. It still occurs occasionally, though now exorcised
by writing about it. It always ends by surrender, and I awake gasping
out of deep water. I used to draw it or write bad poems about it. When
C.S. Lewis and I tossed up, and he was to write on space-travel and I
on time-travel, I began an abortive book of time-travel of which the
end was to be the presence of my hero in the drowning of Atlantis.
This was to be called Númenor, the Land in the West...."
-- J. R. R. Tolkien, in Letter 257.
“Those who live by the sea can hardly form a single thought of which
the sea would not be part.”
-- Hermann Broch
John Szalay
news:d945206c-c7bb-48a3...@dn9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
> Several online searches, including Google Maps, can't find a town in
> Japan called Aneyoshi (or any related spelling). I began to wonder
> about the truth in that story, but there is Aneyoshi, Japan,
>
Aneyoshi, part of the city of Miyako, Iwate Prefecture
http://www.everytrail.com/profile.php?user_id=61613
http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=305103
Belba Grubb
> Aneyoshi, part of the city of Miyako, Iwate Prefecture
>
> http://www.everytrail.com/profile.php?user_id=61613
>
> http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=305103
Thank you very much! What a beautiful introduction to the area,
especially at the second link, the trail from Todogasaki to Aneyoshi.
Now I can't get the theme song for "My Neighbor Totoro" out of my
mind. (G)
EveryTrail.com is a nice site, too; I will remember that one.
Barb
Belba Grubb
intensity scale to the public. In English. To this layperson that is
truly awesome:
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110414a5.html
Barb
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"When you wish to instruct, be brief; that men's minds take in quickly
what you say, learn its lesson, and retain it faithfully. Every word
that is unnecessary only pours over the side of a brimming mind.:
-- Cicero
Weatherlawyer
> Several online searches, including Google Maps, can't find a town in
> Japan called Aneyoshi (or any related spelling). I began to wonder
> the only mention of it I could find (in English - can't search in
> Japanese), however. Nonetheless, the coordinates given, per Google,
> historical record that Norfolk also experienced flooding the same
> night, and only meteorological conditions could have caused that in
> the Bristol Channel as well as in the North Sea. The flood waters in
> Bristol also lasted for days, reportedly; I don't know if that is a
> significant difference from the many hours tsunami waters remain in
> the flood zone.
>
> UK seismic hazard: http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/hazard/Hazard_UK.htm
>
> Landslides; they're a problem to coasts even in low seismic/aseismic
> areas.. The northwest Gulf of Mexico has had bad ones, I understand.
> It's hard to convey that risk to lay people, though.
There are suggestions that there were tidal waves over the islands
that became Britain later but there may be alternative explanations. I
doubt they were tidal.
Over here we have a tidal wave every syzygy. Rivers go out to sea in
deep mud and turn to quicksands under th sediment. When the land
stabilises it is very tempting to build on them.
Quite a few people did so in North Wales despite the objections of the
local councils but the Secretary of State for Wales just rubber
stamped over the objections and rode a coach through it right up to
the day one of the bastards resigned before it was a public disgrace.
The Welsh Assembly is quite capable of doing the same damned stupid
thing though. But at least there is a modicum of democracy involved.
The ancient sea walls that fell over near where I lived in Abergele
were built on Blue Clay. Good enough if they had been maintained. But
they weren't. It was a Bush type wacko job.
No excuses too neither. All British MPs are history scholars, politics
is part of the course for them. Not like that monkey your lot voted
for. History classes concerned Old Crow and Jim Beam, IIRC for one
dedicated student, there.
John Szalay
9a88-047...@r6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:
Son, his wife and our great-grandson will be over there in 2 weeks,
but down in the Osaka area.. is a pretty country .
FWIW:
Google Earth has updated the sat photos of the damaged areas.