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kdt...@earthlink.net

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Dec 27, 2009, 1:44:29 PM12/27/09
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Next stop, the marina on No Paddle Island, up Shit Creek

Better luck next time, BELIEVERS in the psuedo religion of
anthropogenic global warming,

maybe you should all pray to your god, algore, for another chance

In the meantime, you are all prohibited from using those deadly carbon
fuels, violations will result in sending you to CARBON hell under the
domination of the EXXON DEVIL


KD


kdt...@earthlink.net

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Dec 27, 2009, 2:51:36 PM12/27/09
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On Dec 27, 12:44 pm, "kdth...@yahoo.com" <kdth...@earthlink.net>
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We are happy to announce that due to his recent resignation as head of
CRU, ship's entertainment tonight will be Phil Jones giving a lecture
on the relevance of scientific methodology to the use of crayons in
drawing climatalogical graphs.

Everyone will recieve a 64 box of crayons.

We are hoping to have Jim Hansen join us next week, that is if he
see's the light and quits that piddly little job down at NASA Goddard.

He will explain how temperatures in the late 20th century and early
21st century seem to spontaneaously change on the chart as time goes
by. Is it poor instumentation or some mystical phenomena that these
rankings of average global temperature fluctuate years after the fact?

Maybe the air is just becoming too rich in the deadly pollution,
methane, at 1.5ppm, and the computers holding these records register
the change by the reaction?

KD

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kdt...@earthlink.net

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Dec 29, 2009, 6:55:03 AM12/29/09
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On Dec 27, 1:51 pm, "kdth...@yahoo.com"

Passengers should be aware that we are now passing 'Global Warming
Kooks Gone Wild Island, Algore Edition', which can be seen over the
starboard side.

Algore started this world renowned resort after being excluded from
'No Carbon Island', where the politicians and high ranking scientists
have condominiums built at taxpayers expense using absolutely no
carbon fuels or materials. They also have built an extremely expensive
and intricate system of defenses around their island in their FEAR of
retribution of the public for their crimes of embezzlement and
destruction of a healthy economy.

Although the Ship of Fools is not allowed to stop at Algore's 'Global
Warming Kooks Gone Wild Island', you are permitted at this time to
jump overboard and swim to shore.

On Algore's Island, you will run naked next to Algore, freed from any
carnal connections to carbon and carbon dioxide, returning to the
primitive communal paradise of dreams of the carbon paranoid.

KD


kdt...@earthlink.net

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:55:22 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 29, 5:55 am, "kdth...@yahoo.com"

> On Algore's Island, you will run naked next to Algore, freed from any
> carnal connections to carbon and carbon dioxide, returning to the
> primitive communal paradise of dreams of the carbon paranoid.

Fig leafs are not permitted in algore's 'global warming kooks gone
wild paradise'.

Fig leafs decay by the action of bacteria which decompose the complex
carbon compounds into methane which naturally oxidizes with oxygen in
the atmosphere within 10-12 years into carbon dioxide and water.

Almost all organic material on earth decomposes in this manner.

That is why we are so interested in having Hansen give his lecture, in
which he may explain his calls to reduce world methane emissions by
1/3. Despite the short time in which methane decomposes, Hansen refers
to it as a 'long-lived' GHG.

By his own word he is the pioneer in the idea that methane is a
dangerous pollutant and important in affecting climate. No rational
scientist or person would consider this since it only exists at
1.5ppm, and no effect upon radiation retention can be detected in the
laboratory.

Yet Hansen promotes his idea of real dangers of methane and the severe
economic costs of controlling emissions such as severe taxes upon
livestock.

Hansen is not mathematically clear on how much his called for
reductions can actually have benefit for climate, although he clearly
believes in a great amount of indirect genocide or direct genocide to
achieve the reductions of emissions that he calls for.

His portrait is duly planted at several important locations on the
Ship of Fools, as the primary consultant in navigation through the
seas of idiocy.

KD

kdt...@earthlink.net

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:01:03 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 29, 5:55 am, "kdth...@yahoo.com"

> On Algore's Island, you will run naked next to Algore, freed from any


> carnal connections to carbon and carbon dioxide, returning to the
> primitive communal paradise of dreams of the carbon paranoid.

Natsman

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:14:20 AM12/30/09
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On 30 Dec, 12:01, "kdth...@yahoo.com" <kdth...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/tree/browse_frm/thr...

Caught on the back foot, and realising that carbon dioxide is no
criminal, they have to search for SOMETHING to clutch at, rather than
admit they've no real idea about climate variation at all, or even
reluctantly come to terms with the idea that the sun might have
something to do with it after all. Ship of fools indeed. let's hope
they don't see the iceberg before it sinks them...

CK

MahFL

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:54:51 AM12/30/09
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With all the warming we have iceburgs ?

kdt...@earthlink.net

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:25:32 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 8:14 am, Natsman <correz...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 30 Dec, 12:01, "kdth...@yahoo.com"
>
> Caught on the back foot, and realising that carbon dioxide is no
> criminal, they have to search for SOMETHING to clutch at, rather than
> admit they've no real idea about climate variation at all, or even
> reluctantly come to terms with the idea that the sun might have
> something to do with it after all.  Ship of fools indeed.  let's hope
> they don't see the iceberg before it sinks them...
>
> CK-

Oh they won't, and they can bet their damn carbon paranoid asses, that
the iceberg is headed straight for their rinky dink leaky assed boat.

Their captain and navigator, Hansen, is the charlatan extroidinair. He
has only a masters degree in astronomy. This means he couldn't make
the grade in astrophysics which requires apptitude in mathematics. He
is qualified to point telescopes at the stars and teach astronomy.

Being the dishonest opportunist that he is, he wormed his way into the
administrative job as head of climatology at NASA Goddard, and deamed
himself, 'Master Climatoligist', In any of his papers fully 50% of the
references are to himself.

He has completely abused the respect people accord to NASA. People
assume the proper scientific establishment of facts have been done in
this field. Nothing is further from the truth.

People need to understand what a charlatan is. A dishonest prick that
cheats through college and continues to lie and cheat in the academic
world as a professional.

To read his recent formal paper of 2007, is a study in insanity. One
could write a paper 10 times as long in describing his insanity.

For instance he mentions the idea that it was human cultivation of
rice around 5000 yrs ago that produced enough methane to affect the
climate. The very little methane caused from human rice cultivation
could in no way be relevant in the vast quantities of methane
continually released and decomposed in nature.

He is utterly INSANE for even mentioning such a thing and is certainly
no scientist. In this paper he only refers to methane as a 'long
lived' GHG, with no reference that it decays withing 12 yrs in the
atmosphere and exists at only 1.5 parts per million with changes much
less than this.

No studies of methane in ice layers can show any relation to methane
and effect upon temperature, and the EPA's ratings for various
greenhouse gases are purely theoretically derived from Hansen's
contributions to the IPCC. The EPA has no direct laboratory science
for their numbers. They are acting without scientific basis and are
ILLEGAL.

This whole movement is based only upon the money which is achieved
through this climate scaremongering. And now they have transposed this
money cow into stock investments and the planned pilifering by the
recent criminal Copenhagen aggreement of billions of dollars to be
funneled on through this purely fraudulent scientific estimation of
anthropogenic effect upon climate complete with entirely falsified
temperature records and falsified proxy temperature reconstructions.

"Twelve o'clock and all is clear,,, no ICEBERGS headed this way,
captain".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahAHAHAHAHA

KD

noo b

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:54:49 PM1/2/10
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On Dec 30 2009, 10:25 pm, "kdth...@yahoo.com"

> No studies of methane in ice layers can show any relation to methane
> and effect upon temperature, and the EPA's ratings for various
> greenhouse gases are purely theoretically derived from Hansen's
> contributions to the IPCC. The EPA has no direct laboratory science
> for their numbers. They are acting without scientific basis and are
> ILLEGAL.

A simple means to prove that the concept of greenhouse gases was
abandoned by real science and was not a part of theoretical science
before the late 1960's is to review one of Hansen's own papers from
1967.
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1967/1967_Hansen_Matsushima.pdf

At this time it had only been recently discovered that the surface of
Venus was hoter than theoreticlly expected. Hansen and his co-author
here try to prove theoretically that this is caused by dust particles
in the atmosphere. They do the normal charlatan thing of
complexitizing in barely understandable phrases so that no one can
prove them wrong.

However it is not accepted that the temperature of Venus is caused by
these dust particles.

Now, everyone is told that science knew all along that it is the
special properties of the 'greenhouse gas', carbon dioxide, and that
the formal scientific 'understanding' of this property of CO2 is so
basic and foregone, that any laboratory establishment of this property
is unneeded.

Hansen mentions nowhere in this article the concept of CO2 being a
greenhouse gas. This concept was not accepted by science at this time,
which this PROVES. The concept of greenhouse gases was re-introduced
to theoretical science somewhere about this time. Although first
introduced in classical physics, modern science had discarded this
concept since there exists absolutely no direct science in the
laboratory to substantiate this postualted property.

This article by Hansen, and all the complex computations are invalid
and fabricated. This is just an expostulation of Hansen's drive to be
something important regardless of the science he must falsify.

Now, if one uses simple laboratory means to prove that CO2 does not
absorb infrared inordinately, or to prove that the other gases which
are not considered 'greenhouse gases', such as O2 and N2, also absorb
and radiate in the infrared, the entire theoretical construct of AGW
is proved invalid and fraud.

And the EPA is proved a criminal enterprise for their attacks upon
American citizens and American industry.

And Hansen is PROVED to be the opportunistic CHARLATAN that he is.

Alan LeHun

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Jan 2, 2010, 6:07:26 PM1/2/10
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In article <4b3fceb5$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, b...@xxx.com says...


> A simple means to prove that the concept of greenhouse gases
was
> abandoned by real science and was not a part of theoretical science
> before the late 1960's is to review one of Hansen's own papers from
> 1967.

OK. So you are using a paper written by a chap called Hanson in
order to prove a point regarding the acceptance of certain
theories by "real" science.

[....]

>
> And Hansen is PROVED to be the opportunistic CHARLATAN that he is.
>

OK. Now you claim that your own cited source is a charlatan.


You're no so hot with the logical type stuff, are you?

--
Alan LeHun

Surfer

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:32:23 AM1/3/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:54:49 +1100, "noo b" <b...@xxx.com> wrote:

>
>A simple means to prove that the concept of greenhouse gases was
>abandoned by real science and was not a part of theoretical science
>before the late 1960's is to review one of Hansen's own papers from
>1967.
>

Idiot. How does a paper by a certain scientist tell us what all other
scientists think?

<rest snipped>


noo b

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:55:22 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 2, 11:03 am, Dawlish <pjg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 2, 4:20 pm, "kdth...@yahoo.com" <kdth...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 30 2009, 10:25 pm, "kdth...@yahoo.com"
>
> <Rubbish snipped>
>
> > KD
>
> Please stop cross-posting this silly rubbish to us. Thank you.

As soon as you give us confirmation that you have successfully
executed for his capital crimes, your cute little 'scientist' named,
Phil Jones, for his production of falsified temperature records and
falsified proxy reconstructions designed to impel the world into
suicidal and futile emission reductions.

You must also discontinue the use of any science or publications which
use or are based upon this FRAUDULENT SCIENCE.

If the group of charlatans in charge of the science of AGW must
falsify their science, it means the truth does not suit them. The
truth is that there is no warming which shows that the anthropogenic
carbon dioxide has had any effect upon temperature.

The temperatures of the 30's were much warmer than depicted.

If your stocks began the day at $100 a share, dropped to $50 during
the day and returned to $100 by the end of the day, you would be
considered insane to say your stocks rose by $50 dollars that day.

This is EXACTLY what you do with the world temperature statistics.
This is why the charlatans of AGW must FALSIFY the records, and why
your CRU charlatans have destroyed these records in order to cover
their crime of this falsification.

Have a look at US temperature statistics from Hansen himself before
his modifications. No evidence of any warming due to the rise of
significant human emisisons which occured in the 1950's.

http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/11/lights-out-upstairs/

Hansen also was caught red-handed doing an unwarrented double
correction which NASA and Hansen had to admit, which changed the
status of warmest years quite a bit. This tells one immediately also,
that the temperatures of the 30's were warmer or about as warm as
present.

You wish to ignore these facts?
THEN LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE WITH YOUR BOGUS AND FALSIFIED SCIENCE OR
ACCEPT THAT WE CONSIDER YOUR PROPAGANDA AN ACT OF AGGRESSION.

You whiny ass idiots need to keep your religious doctrine to yourself
and stop this propaganda. At least your Met Office has realized the
import of the falsification of the statistics and has pledged to
review their statistics although they said this will take 3 years.

Since you cannot read this truth, you are allowed to remain with your
head up your ass as you also demand others to suffer from restriction
of carbon fuel use.

If you change your mind, you should hop on down to the surgeon and see
about having your head up your ass removed. In the meantime, enjoy the
quite and detachement from reality of having your head safely
implanted in that safe warm place.
HAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahaHAHAHAHAHhahahahah

KD


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