Dyn-o-gel
Moooink
day stop or slow a hurricane. From there they would then sell their
invention the United States government. I have searched all over the
internet and cannot find a single article later then 2002 regarding
the company Dyn-O-Mat, Dyn-O-Gel, or Peter Cordani. The only article
that I could find that remotely explains what happened to the company
is that the NHC declined their invention and they were seeking to test
in Africa. Does anyone know any information about what happened to
this product???? :?: :?:
Steve Schulin
Pick...@aol-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Moooink) wrote:
"BANKRUPTCIES", Palm Beach Post (Florida), August 11, 2003, p. 9D
Filed July 25
...
Chapter 7 - Dyn-O-Mat Inc., 1201 Jupiter Park Drive, Jupiter, 33458.
Attorney: pro se. 03-34099; involuntary.
...
Copyright 2003 Palm Beach Newspapers, Inc.
---
St. Petersburg Times (Florida), August 24, 2003, p. 1F
His head is in the clouds
by Dave Scheiber
JUPITER, FLORIDA -- You might be expecting somebody like Professor Irwin
Corey, sporting a disheveled Albert Einstein coif and spouting arcane
mathematical formulas.
After all, the inventor has spent the past three years brewing up an
absorbent powder called Dyn-O-Gel, which he says can hobble the meanest
hurricane and save billions in damage.
Okay, sounds way out there, but this is Jupiter.
So you walk into Dyno-O-Mat headquarters looking for a nutty guy in a
white lab coat. Instead, you get a man wearing a dress shirt open at the
collar, and loafers with no socks, who greets you heartily with a
grainy, streetwise New York accent.
"Hey, I'm Pete, how ya doin'?"
At 42, Peter Cordani, the company's CEO, is a father of three who
employs his dad and a younger brother. He has thick black hair graying
around the edges, but often refers to himself as the "kid" - like a
prizefighter squaring off against the establishment: "They say, here's a
kid gonna stop a storm" or "They say, this kid keeps hammerin'."
In fact, the kid is a bit of an anomaly. He built a million-dollar
business but never went to college. He's sports-bar casual, but is a
100-hour-a-week workaholic with a dozen or so inventions always in play
- including a goo that combats wildfires.
Cordani is no mad scientist. But he's definitely mad about something.
The government's hurricane research program, NOAA (National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration), is trying to crush him, he says. It wants
him out of business because his product represents a threat to its
funding efforts.
It is doing everything it can to discredit his product as just another
no-cigar idea, like the kind submitted regularly to NOAA by would-be
Nobel winners (one suggested nuking hurricanes before they make
landfall; another proposed giant windmills on the beaches to blow the
'canes back into the ocean).
So, it might be tempting to dismiss Cordani and his stormbusting project
as so much hot tropical air.
Except there's this:
Two years ago, Cordani's team chartered a Canberra jet to drop $40,000
worth of his Dyno-O-Gel (also called Dyn-O-Storm) into a dark cloud off
West Palm Beach. The event was covered by local TV, which reported that
the cloud immediately dissipated. Not only that, a video of the airport
radar screen showed that the cloud vanished.
And this: A respected hurricane researcher and Doppler radar expert from
Florida State University says Dyn-O-Gel may just work, and plans to
conduct full-scale testing with top scientists.
Others have joined Cordani's camp as well, such as a former Apollo 14
astronaut who walked on the moon, and a meteorologist mission director
who made 135 research flights into eye-walls for the U.S. Air Force
Reserve Hurricane Hunters.
Cordani has been in the eye of a few storms, too.
In 1997, he says, he was still struggling to get Dyn-O-Mat off the
ground when he wrote a check to a business associate for $1,200. It
bounced. Cordani insists he promptly made good with a cash payment, but
two years later was sued by the man, who said he never received the
money. Cordani lost the case and received probation.
Last month, he was taken to court again, sued by a finance company.
Cordani says the company claims he owes it about $24,000; he insists he
owes only $12,000. "I talked to my lawyers and said "Let's go to war.' I
can stop a hurricane - I can sure stop these guys."
Meanwhile, he presses on with his goal of raising a whopping
$500-million to fund the research and testing of his product.
People are noticing. A film crew from National Geographic International
just interviewed Cordani for a series called Built for Destruction. An
ABC crew visited for a New York area special.
The BBC and Japan and German TV have interviewed him, and his
receptionist tells him a call has just come in from the Discovery
Science Channel.
Sitting in his board room, Cordani quietly describes a different kind of
call he got recently: "A guy tells me, "You're on the right track,' and
hangs up."
Then, with a dash of X-Files intrigue, Cordani adds the kicker: "I
tracked the call - and it came from an agency of NOAA."
Everybody likes to complain about the weather, but nobody ever does
anything about it.
Well, that's not exactly true. The ancient Aztecs tried making rain with
human sacrifices. For centuries, American Indians tried with rain
dancing. Some people in the 16th and 18th centuries tried stopping
storms by ringing bells.
Peter Cordani, meanwhile, has been trying to change the weather ever
since the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office issued him a patent in 2000
for his storm-sapping idea. The words on top of the certificate read
plainly: "Weather modification."
The truth is, the U.S. government also has tried its hand at weather
modification. Between 1962 and 1983, it conducted Project Stormfury,
overseen by the National Hurricane Research Labs in Miami.
The program, funded by hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars, hinged
on "seeding" hurricanes with silver iodide. The plan was to stimulate
the growth of clouds outside the eye-wall, weakening the wall of energy
and forming a slower, less dangerous one around it.
Project Stormfury seeded eight storm systems in all. It showed some
promise in 1969 during tests on Hurricane Debbie, dropping winds between
15 and 30 mph on two occasions. But in the end, scientists couldn't tell
if the storms responded to the seeding or simply changed on their own.
Since the project's demise in the '80s, the emphasis has been on
hurricane research and improved methods of forecasting, conducted by
NOAA.
Dr. Hugh Willoughby started studying storms at NOAA in 1975, and from
1995 to 2002 served as director of the Hurricane Research Division of
NOAA's Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory. He retired
to teach this year at Florida International University in Miami. A
former naval officer, Willoughby made more than 400 research flights
into the eyes of cyclones and hurricanes.
One day, three years ago, he received a package in the mail containing a
jar and letter. It was a sample of Dyn-O-Gel powder and a note from
Cordani explaining how it worked.
Willoughby wanted to know more.
The Dyno-O-Gel that Willoughby held before him was an accidental
creation, a modification of a plant moisture product available at any
gardening store.
It all stemmed from Cordani's interest in absorbent materials and
lifelong passion for inventing.
He had built contraptions around the house throughout his teens in Long
Island - attaching lawn mower engines to bikes, trying to make a heated
toilet seat, designing a toothbrush container with a cartoon head.
"They'd say, "The kid's wacky, he wants to invent.' But that was my
thing."
Cordani eventually moved with his family to Palm Beach County. He
pondered selling real estate, but didn't like the reading and tests. He
worked briefly for his father, who ran a construction company. Then he
started his own business, installing drainage pipes in yards of luxury
homes built on muck. The company grew. But Cordani was restless.
Then he got an idea while helping his father clean up a car oil leak in
the garage.
After buying some carpet to put under his dad's car, the thought hit
him: What if he could make a leak-proof, super absorbent mat to use in
garages? So he learned about polypropylene (used to make indoor-outdoor
carpet), found a nonleak backing and, at 33, had his first successful
invention: Dyn-O-Mat.
Sears and hardware stores soon stocked it as a toolbox liner, but
Cordani also marketed it as coasters, dog-cage liners, drop cloths, mats
and more.
Dyn-O-Mat started a cash flow and kept Cordani's creative gears
churning. About four years ago, he noticed something while working in
the yard one day with Soil Moist, a product with crystals that gel as
they absorb water, holding moisture for plant roots.
He tinkered with the polymers in Soil Moist. Over time, he produced a
white substance like baby powder. It was far more absorbent than Soil
Moist; a few spoonfuls could make a bowl of water congeal instantly into
clear goop.
He and business partner J.D. Dutton began manufacturing fabric cylinders
filled with the powder to absorb the water condensation in underground
gas station tanks and elevator hydraulic tanks. "I thought, I could sell
a billion of these things. As they expand with water, you just throw 'em
out."
Jokingly, he mentioned to Dutton, "You know, J.D., we could dump some of
this powder in a storm." They both laughed at the thought of a giant
Jell-O-like glob falling from the sky, causing a tidal wave when it hits
the ocean below.
But two weeks later, he was packing the roots of a tree with Soil Moist
at his parent's house. His hands were covered with the slippery gel.
When he picked up a rag soaked with saltwater from wiping down their
Waverunner, he was stunned: The saltwater instantly dissolved the gel
from his hands.
It was his shazam! moment. His silly idea now looked like a bona fide
theory: The stuff would absorb rain droplets into tiny gel particles,
the added weight would force them earthward, and the gel would turn back
to liquid upon contact with the sea.
"I ran to my patent lawyer, showed him what I had and he said, "Don't
say nothin' - this is serious, you could change the world,' " says
Cordani.
As soon as it was patented, he mailed off a sample to Hugh Willoughby.
"Peter Cordani is a very smart man, a successful businessman who's put a
lot of innovative and very useful products on the market," says
Willoughby from his FIU office. "And the material itself, he sent me a
jar of it. It's fascinating stuff to play with. So that made me
predisposed to be interested in it."
Willoughby and Cordani appeared on CBS News' Early Show in July 2000.
Willoughby told co-anchor Russ Mitchell, "This man has hit upon
something that's within the realm of physical possibility."
Cordani says Willoughby encouraged him to try two tests on storm clouds,
using crop dusters to drop the powder. Both were successful, Cordani
says. During the tests, he recalls, Willoughby "was like a dad to me on
the phone."
But soon, Willoughby stopped returning his calls.
"He was excited for me after the two tests, but now it was "Doc? Doc?'
No Doc. Like the world turned off on me. Then, a negative article got
printed, saying NOAA didn't think it had merit. It would take tons of
the product and be too costly. So now, I'm feeling hurt as a person."
Willoughby, however, has a different recollection:
He says he and NOAA colleagues thoroughly tested the powder/gel. They
ran computer simulations, he explains, and concluded that the process
would slow a hurricane only minimally.
"It wasn't my job to take an idea that I've no reason to believe will
work and make it into something useful," Willoughby said.
"The problem is that Peter had no physical hypothesis about how this
stuff would work that he's willing to share with anybody," he says. "In
science, you don't spend time on things where there's a step that goes,
"And then a miracle happens.' "
Cordani, however, felt Willoughby distanced himself under pressure from
NOAA, since his innovation might divert research funds to his project.
Hardly, says Willoughby: "A guy with a gleam in his eye walks in with an
idea with a $100-million project that can save the economy billions -
that's a win for him for thinking it up, and a win for us for making it
work."
Still, Cordani fumed. He set up a new test in 2001 to get NOAA's
attention. His goal: Knock a storm cloud off the radar screens in West
Palm Beach. By all accounts, the cloud disappeared.
But Willoughby was not impressed. He told interviewers that storm clouds
often dissipate suddenly on their own.
NOAA hasn't changed its stance, though Willoughby grants this much: "It
has some possibilities as a cloud-seeding agent or rainmaker - turning
suspended droplets into rain," he says. "It's reasonable to suppose it
could work that way."
But Cordani is firing back again.
"Project Stormfury spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer money," he
says. "They blew it and the project was shut down. So I'm spending money
out of my own pocket, with my own crew."
Cordani says that the Dyn-O-Gel Willoughby tested absorbed 250 times its
weight in water, but the new variety absorbs 2,000 times its weight. His
plan is to target only major hurricanes, and he contends he can slow
them down by a full category.
His storm team now numbers 300-plus. Among them is Dr. Peter Ray, a
professor of meteorology at FSU and veteran hurricane researcher. Ray
builds mobile Doppler radar systems.
He says he has no financial interest in Cordani's company and has not
"received a dime" other than for travel expenses to Jupiter. He says he
only wants to determine if Dyn-O-Gel can effectively weaken hurricanes.
"If I weren't optimistic about it, I wouldn't waste my time," he says.
"My role is to bring the best science, the best scientists, the best
tools and the best methodology to bear that's available in the country.
"But it's not a matter of who has the best reputation or who has the
highest position on which credibility needs to be established. It needs
to be established on the basis on good science. So I am totally commited
to that regardless of the outcome."
Ray does suggest the gel didn't get a fair shake.
"There are legitimate skeptics, but there are professional jealousies,
too," he says. "If there's a prospect of reducing the threat of loss of
lives or property, it would be irresponsible on issues of turf or any
other reason not to (look further). And what I would say to NOAA - they
have bright people there - help make this better. Don't kill a good idea
just because it isn't yours."
Ray also criticizes NOAA for so quickly dismissing Cordani's radar
experiment. "You need to test a bunch of storms, and if they all
(disappear), then it's not likely that it just happened by chance."
Another supporter is former Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who earned
his science doctorate from Massachusetts Institute of Technology and
walked on the moon with Alan Shepard in 1971. Mitchell is a Dyn-O-Mat
director and adviser to Cordani.
"Innovation is always resisted," says Mitchell. "And then sooner or
later, the same guys (resisting) say, "I knew it all the time.' It's
been that way forever, and I guess it always will be - creating new
ideas and making them work, and getting them sold, is an arduous,
arduous task."
Mitchell has spent the last 30 years studying human consciousness and
psychic and paranormal phenomena in the search for a common ground
between science and spirit. But even he was skeptical at first.
"Then I saw how it worked, and the great potential it has," he adds.
"The fact is, Peter's a very, very bright young man. And his crazy
genius is apparent."
Cordani plans his next test in Melbourne within two months, and foresees
two more years of testing, with results presented to the government and
science community at each step.
What about health considerations of Dyn-O-Gel?
Cordani maintains the product is safe, derived from organic polymers
that enhance vegetation and are approved by the Environmental Protection
Agency. An EPA spokesperson in Washington, D.C., unacquainted with
Dyn-O-Gel, said there could be "different exposure scenarios" for humans
based on whether it's being incorporated into soil or dissipated into
the atmosphere.
Then there's the question of what it would cost to take on a real
hurricane. For a storm the size of 1992's Hurricane Andrew, the most
destructive U.S. hurricane on record, Cordani's team's best guess is
"two shots of 1.6-million pounds" most likely dropped into the eye. At
$4 a pound, the price would exceed $6-million. "But you have to weigh
that against $40-billion in real estate damage," he says.
Inside his lab, filled with multicolored gels and vials, Cordani has
many other esoteric irons in the fire. Like the fire-retardant gel he'll
slather on his hand, then turn a blowtorch on it. Cordani says he has
just shipped this coolant product to Portugal to test on the country's
wildfires, and also to Montana firefighters.
He's created Dyn-O-Spine, a stretcher that induces mild hypothermia
using a coolant gel, intended to prevent further spine damage to crash
victims en route to the ER.
The coolant gel - some gels can reach subfreezing - helped produce
Dyn-O-Vest, tested favorably by firefighters and law enforcement in
Miami and Pompano Beach as a means of keeping their body temperatures
normal amid extreme heat.
Dyn-O-Moist is designed as a long-lasting, in-ground plant moisturizer;
Dyn-O-Trim, a tea bag design that soaks up grease from a cooking pan.
And Cordani says he just licensed Dyn-O-Drug Detector, a straw that,
when placed in a cocktail, will change color if any of 10 drugs have
tainted the drink - including the date-rape drug Rohypnol.
And that's only some of them.
"Sure, I want to make money," he says. "Mostly, I'm just a regular guy."
In the eye of the storm.
[photos] The summer sky over Jupiter glowers above Peter Cordani, the
inventor of a substance he believes can weaken hurricanes, before they
reach land.; Hands sprinkle Dyn-O-Gel into a bowl of water.; Hands scoop
the Dyn-O-Gel that has transformed the water; into a clear gel.; After
coating his hand with a fire retardant he's invented, Peter Cordani
shows that the flame of a blowtorch can penetrate wood but not harm his
skin. One of several related products, this gel is being tested by
firefighters; in Montana and Portugal.
[photographer: Cherie Diez]
Copyright 2003 Times Publishing Company
Eric Swanson
>So, it might be tempting to dismiss Cordani and his stormbusting project
>as so much hot tropical air.
>
>Except there's this:
>
>Two years ago, Cordani's team chartered a Canberra jet to drop $40,000
>worth of his Dyno-O-Gel (also called Dyn-O-Storm) into a dark cloud off
>West Palm Beach. The event was covered by local TV, which reported that
>the cloud immediately dissipated. Not only that, a video of the airport
>radar screen showed that the cloud vanished.
>
>And this: A respected hurricane researcher and Doppler radar expert from
>Florida State University says Dyn-O-Gel may just work, and plans to
>conduct full-scale testing with top scientists.
So, when can we expect to hear that the sudden weakening of Francis last
night or the slowing of Charlie just before landfall were due to dyn-o-goo?
Or, was his timing impeccably bad, going bust just before the big test?
--
Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Schulin
swanson@nospam_on.net (Eric Swanson) wrote:
Maybe this weekend, on Art Bell's radio show. Bonnie's break up was the
subject of at least one caller a couple of weeks ago.
Moooink
pinellas county and I did not see anything of that sort in the St.
Pete Times newspaper.
> Cordani says that the Dyn-O-Gel Willoughby tested absorbed 250 times
its
> weight in water, but the new variety absorbs 2,000 times its weight.
His
> plan is to target only major hurricanes, and he contends he can slow
> them down by a full category.
Extremely bizzare that Frances as of last night has decreased almost
40 mph from a strong Cat4 to a weak Cat3. Could this have been
because of some unknown testing of this product we very speak of? Is
it all a cowincidence that I stumbled across this information at this
current time? What about Charley as well, and its crazy last minute
turn south of Tampa? Bizzare. I want more information.
Moooink
posted yesterday (strange right?) Sept 1, 2004 but a local Palm Beach
newspaper. Here is the article:
Inventors think they could reduce storm havoc
By Paul Lomartire
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 01, 2004
Peter Cordani thinks he can take some of the killer out of a
roof-ripping, tree-tossing hurricane.
For three years, the Jupiter businessman and inventor has been trying
to get hurricane experts to consider his super-absorbant product,
SK-1000, which can be dumped into a hurricane to weaken it before
landfall.
"It will suck the moisture out of the storm and cool the storm down 15
degrees within seconds," says Cordani. "That will reduce the
devastating punch. If you reduce a storm by 8 to 15 mph you can
reduce 60 percent of its damage."
If Cordani could reduce a hurricane's damage "from $15 billion to $13
billion, it's worthwhile," says Dr. Peter Ray, a Florida State
University professor of meteorology. "That may be on the optimistic
side of what's possible."
Ray says no one can know if Cordani's idea could work until it's
tested.
"My goal is to do good science, not to promote this," says Ray, a
Doppler radar pioneer. "But the questions can be answered using the
best science available at a level done with integrity and honest
scrutiny."
As for getting government hurricane experts to embrace Cordani's idea,
that's naive, says Ray, who earned his doctorate at National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration's National Severe Storms Laboratory in
Norman, Oklahoma.
"You're dealing with government agencies," he says. "Unless it was
born in NOAA, it would not happen, them embracing it."
But, he adds, if NOAA was given a big chunk of research money by the
Congress to investigate Cordani's idea, the tests would begin
immediately.
"They'd be crazy not to," he concludes. "The bottom line is you can't
get ahead of the science. The tests have to come first."
And Cordani should get those tests. "I believe it's at least worth
checking out," says Ray.
Not bad for a self-taught inventor.
Nine years ago, Cordani was digging ditches for a sprinkler system at
a Jupiter golf course and tinkering in his garage at night. He was
out to solve a problem.
He'd always noticed that mechanics would put a piece of cardboard
under a car to soak up oil and other fluids. Then they'd dump the
soaked cardboard in a dumpster.
There had to be a better way.
Cordani's absorbant, disposable Dyn-O-Mat caught on quickly. The
environmentally friendly mat soaks up car oil and other toxic stuff
and can be burned. Poof. No more toxic cardboard in landfills.
That absorbant is the heart of his company, Dyn-O-Mat, that puts out
all kinds of products.
A sheet for ambulances and hospitals that soaks up blood and can stop
the spread of all kinds of nastiness. Pellets to hold water for up to
30 days for plants. An activated gel system to instantly lower the
body temperature just after someone has a heart attack, stroke or
spinal column injury to help reduce permanent damage.
Cordani thinks Dyn-O-Gel can eventually be used to grow food in a
desert.
You can stop fires with the stuff, Cordani says, and even he doesn't
know what all else his invention could do.
While a variety of Dyn-O-Mat products have made big bucks for Cordani
and his friend, J.D. Dutton, killing hurricanes is their passion.
Insurance companies were the first to listen to Cordani's patented
SK-1000 process to modify weather. But hurricane experts discounted
his plan.
For starters, they said, no airplane was big enough to carry enough of
the stuff to affect a storm, even if SK-1000 did what Cordani said it
would.
OK, fine. Show Cordani a problem with one of his ideas, and he'll fix
it. While he worked on concentrating SK-1000, Dutton, Dyn-O-Mat's
president, looked for an airplane maker to design something that
could haul and drop it into a hurricane.
Cordani has now improved SK-1000 from absorbing 250
times its weight to 2,000 to 3,000 times its weight, so a plane would
have to haul a lot less of it to affect a storm.
And Dutton got the plane built.
"We finally have the big aircraft in position," he says, but he can't
announce the company until the final contracts are done. The
747-sized plane will carry a 200,000-pound payload.
Buddies going all the way back to Happauge High School in Smithtown,
Long Island, Cordani and Dutton quickly learned a simple fact: You
can't tell certified science guys anything if you don't have a bunch
of college degrees.
"The key is to work with the government to bring in the dollars, the
insurance conglomerate and the researchers," Dutton said.
[b:c63ae6cf4e]Meanwhile, Cordani watched
Hurricane Charley tear up Florida and this week he's watching Frances
churn westward, unchecked by SK-1000 or anything made by
man.[/b:c63ae6cf4e]
"It's what keeps me going, gives me my juice," he says. "It's not that
I'd call it frustrating, but it keeps me going."
He did get NOAA to test his first version of SK-1000 using hurricane
computer models, and it slowed the storm by 4 to 6 mph. With the
improved SK-1000, he says, "we have a shot at 15 mph now.
"The thing that's frustrating is that people move at a slow pace," he
concludes."If we could have teamed up sooner, we'd be further along.
Now, it's three years later and there's still the devastation."
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/accent/content/accent/epaper/2004/09/01/a6e_dynomat_0901.html
So I guess according to this writer, Frances and Charley have gone
untouched. I want more information.
Eric Swanson
>
>I found some more information. Actually very good information. It was
>posted yesterday (strange right?) Sept 1, 2004 but a local Palm Beach
>newspaper. Here is the article:
>
>
>
>Inventors think they could reduce storm havoc
>By Paul Lomartire
>
>Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
>
>Wednesday, September 01, 2004
>
>Peter Cordani thinks he can take some of the killer out of a
>roof-ripping, tree-tossing hurricane.
>
>For three years, the Jupiter businessman and inventor has been trying
>to get hurricane experts to consider his super-absorbant product,
>SK-1000, which can be dumped into a hurricane to weaken it before
>landfall.
>
>"It will suck the moisture out of the storm and cool the storm down 15
>degrees within seconds," says Cordani. "That will reduce the
>devastating punch. If you reduce a storm by 8 to 15 mph you can
>reduce 60 percent of its damage."
When moisture, ie water vapor, condenses, heat is released to the
surroundings....
[cut]
>
>Cordani has now improved SK-1000 from absorbing 250
>times its weight to 2,000 to 3,000 times its weight, so a plane would
>have to haul a lot less of it to affect a storm.
>
>And Dutton got the plane built.
>
>"We finally have the big aircraft in position," he says, but he can't
>announce the company until the final contracts are done. The
>747-sized plane will carry a 200,000-pound payload.
The deserts around Tuscon, AZ are full of derelict 747's. He could get
one for the price of the aluminum. A left over cargo plane would do
quite well for a test or two... There are probably some L-1011's and
DC-10's available too.
>Meanwhile, Cordani watched
>Hurricane Charley tear up Florida and this week he's watching Frances
>churn westward, unchecked by SK-1000 or anything made by
>man. "It's what keeps me going, gives me my juice," he says. "It's not
>that I'd call it frustrating, but it keeps me going."
>
>He did get NOAA to test his first version of SK-1000 using hurricane
>computer models, and it slowed the storm by 4 to 6 mph. With the
>improved SK-1000, he says, "we have a shot at 15 mph now.
>
>"The thing that's frustrating is that people move at a slow pace," he
>concludes."If we could have teamed up sooner, we'd be further along.
>Now, it's three years later and there's still the devastation."
>
>
>http://www.palmbeachpost.com/accent/content/accent/epaper/2004/09/01/a6e_dynomat_0901.html
>
>
>So I guess according to this writer, Frances and Charley have gone
>untouched. I want more information.
If so, it makes one wonder how would it be possible to separate the effects
of a test from otherwise natural weakening??
just passing through
Just looking for information on google and came here. I'm not here as
a new member, but passing through with info if anyone is interested,
but i don't want to stir a hype.
It's about those polymer crystals that absorb water. I heard about
the theory (maybe 2yrs ago?) involving the release of these crystals
into a hurricane to weaken it. And as a kid, I knew about these
things because Mom had a nursery and of course, they were really cool
to mess around with.
I'm here now because I think they may have been used and are washing
up on my local beach in south texas. I was actually out there
surfing, and was not really thinking too much about all this...i
kinda thought maybe they were some kind of jelly fish. That was
yesterday, and today i went out again...same thing. So this time i
grabbed one and looked close. It was not biological. But it also
didn't have a crystalline structure to it...like the ones i saw used
within plant soil.
Again, i got caught up in my surfing and forgot to grab one off the
beach. I will go back tomorrow and photograph them along with taking
samples. I hope they are there, because i don't want to start a hype.
Whatever they are...I've never seen anything like it, and I am
POSITIVE that it is not some kind of jellyfish.
I really think these 'dyno-whatevers' were used on Ivan and the recent
ENE and NE winds and waves have brought them right to my beach. If
this is true...what should i do with the info? Suggestions?
Thanks
C.T.
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Psalm 110
Unfortunately the USA is becoming a 3rd world nation as far as general
education on basic science principles. This poster is extremely
deficient in basic physics and simple knowledge of how to get a
computer to computer number for your convenience.
Recently Hurricane Ivan came ashore. If that wasn't enough to obtain
some simple lessons about storm physics, Bonnie, Charlie, Frances,
Gaston and Hermine all hit the USA prior to Ivan. Let's take Hermine
which dropped 12 inches of rain over Richmond, Virginia. I pick this
example because Americans are still thinking in inches and feet, and
12 inches (a foot) is a number that hurts their brain less than
centimeters and grams.
A circle with a diameter of about 5.56 miles covers an aera of just
about exactly 25 square miles of territory. Richmond is certainly
larger than 6 miles from side-to-side, north-south & east-west, so
this 25 miles represents less than Richmong got, but it is a nice
round number for people who can't think about math without crying
their girly-man eyes out.
There are 5280 feet per mile, and 5,280 x 5,280 per square mile, or
27,878,400 square feet per square mile, and there are 25 of these in
our Richmond example, for 696,960,000 square feet. With one foot of
water on each square foot of land that is about 700 million cubic feet
of water.
Your USA ignorance of all things science means that you have no idea
how many gallons are in a cubic foot, and you can't begin to figure
out where to look it up, so I will tell you: there are 7.48 gallons in
each ft^3.
That is 5,394,470,400 gallons of water, and each one of those gallons
weighs 8 pounds, so that is 43,155,763,200 pounds of water that fell
on Richmond, Virginia from one cloudburst from one storm most people
hardly even noticed.
So we are thinking about numbers too large to be absorbed by the
sissy-boys afraid of a pocket calculator, and need to translate into
easier numbers: 21,577,881.6 tons, or the equivilent of 7,192,627.2
SUVs falling from the sky.
Now 7 million SUVs falling in a few hours over your town might seem
like a trivial thing, but you have to ask yourself how much power did
it take to lift 7 million SUVs a couple of miles in the air and
transport that payload almost 3,000 miles. At 12 MPG for fully loaded
SUVs, it takes 250 gallons of gasoline to drive 3,000 miles, so it
would take 1,798,156,800 gallons of gasoline to move those 7 million
SUVs on level ground from near Africa to Richmond, Virginia.
We are talking nearly two billion gallons of gasoline to deliver the
load. First we have to get it airborne before we can move it. Take two
five-gallon buckets and fill each one up three-quarters of the way,
and you have one cubic foot of water. Carry this 60 pounds up a flight
of stairs. Now carry 700 million loads like this up a mountain.
That's not a hurricane -- that's just the 25 mile^2 deluge on
Richmond, Virginia which actually happened just a few weeks ago and
killed five people. Lots of places were hit by 12 inch rains from
Frances and Ivan, and in Haiti 2,000 were killed by 12 inch rains.
In order to go from sea temperature to airborne water vapor we need
heat, lots and lots of heat. That's what carries the load of water up
miles high to be carried thousands of miles away.
Hurricanes are "spontaneous dissipative structures". Some guy got a
Nobel prize for that but I'm not going to explain what that means.
If you don't get rid of the heat then the ocean just gets hotter and
hotter. When it gets to 80 degrees F (27.5C) than hurricanes can form,
and they do form. As a consequence the oceans rarely get much over 84
degrees for very long. If hurricanes never formed there would be
nothing to carry away the excess heat, lift it high up in the
atmosphere where it can radiate away as dew forms into clouds and
rain. The oceans would have gotten to boiling aeons ago and life as we
are would never have emerged.
So dumb guys too ignorant to work a $7 scientific calculator with 28
function that used to be worth $1,000 when they were born want to be
"heros" and stop the hurricanes. Some heros, idiots like this are,
pumping heat-trapping gases into the atmosphere, then wanting to undo
the scientifically-predictable reaction using punny plane loads of
chemicals that they don't even know what it is made of.
Education is part of the equipment REQUIRED for living on planet
earth. It is what you do for yourself, not something somebody gives
you in classrooms. You have to seek out and find the knowledge. You
have to think it through and understand it. Nobody gives a damn about
your diplomas and degrees -- what's important is what you KNOW that
helps you live on a planet with hurricanes.
The Dyno-O-Gel between your ears is what masters hurricane survival
through understanding physics and then building infrastructure that
won't be wrecked by physics. You need to understand that Dyn-O-Gel
will not save you from CO2 pollution and frauds the car-oil lobby
tells you. When you KNOW science THEY can't lie to you -- you can
figure things out yourself and find the crooked poison-pills hidden in
their deception propaganda.
just passing through
Sorry. I feel like i let my local environment down by not grabbing
one or taking a pic. I didn't go surfing today, but i did ask
another if he had noticed anything out in the water...nothing.
Lots of other surfers noticed these things yesterday and day
before...but again, they are apparantly all gone today.
These gel things were anywhere from an inch to three inches across and
the one i grabbed in the water looked like a hershey's kiss gone
wrong. They were completely clear and easily broke apart when i
squished it. The only other bit of info is that we have had a bit of
rain since yesterday. Perhaps that had something to do with this
scenario.....?
If anyone needs any more info, feel free to email me at
con...@spi360.com