what part of natural selection don't we understand?
Sarah Hammersmith
families like 6 or 8 kids by themselves. Even with a second parent on the
scene, don't we realize how much of a burden this is going to be for the
earth. When are we going to learn to cohabitate and not dominate on this
planet. We don't need more welfare; we need more birth control and
eduaction.
Don Libby
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> planet. We don't need more welfare; we need more birth control and
> eduaction.
More education can be found at http://www.popcouncil.org
I strongly advise all interested in population issues to partake of it.
-dl
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Duane Phinney
Sarah Hammersmith wrote:
Watching the news I am struck by the number of single women raising large
families like 6 or 8 kids by themselves. Even with a second parent on the
scene, don't we realize how much of a burden this is going to be for the
earth. When are we going to learn to cohabitate and not dominate on this
charliew
Duane Phinney wrote in message <36DC6C48...@fdt.net>...
Carol Price
have wombs like uzis, they fire kids off in rounds.
My one sister tells me her religion
says that the earth will support as many people as they can crank out.
What a crock of doo doo.
Don't follow the common path.
Go boldly where there is no path,
and leave a trail.
Steve Hemphill
John McCarthy
Don't follow the common path. Go boldly where there is no
path, and leave a trail.
What, and get Mike Vandeman down on you?
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/
That which is obvious without arithmetic is often wrong.
Cheryl Ennes
staying in a good relationship for life. divorce rates are way to high.
who will ever address this? understand the importance of the land that
the endangered species need to live. also, our most powerful tool is
our dollar. learn to use it in the right places. also remember, as a
nation, we all own far too many gadgets. do we really all need a
garage door opener, electric can opener, weed wacker, and paper plates?
les all be sensible about this. if we all do a little, we can accomplish
alot.
Claude Rallins
quite enough people just yet. The truth of the matter is we can never
have to many people. The problem is not population... it's consumption.
Take a look at the population- consumption index. On average, the top
20% consumes 7x more than the remaining 80%. Do the math (mr. math).
(source: U.N. 1998 Human Development Report).
What part of natural selection don't You'all understand? It was the
over population of the oceans that pushed life onto land, via natural
selection. And it will be the "over population" of the land that will
push life out into space. We are the "captains" of the ship that will
blaze a trail where none exists... carrying the precious cargo of living
species. This is our mission, if we choose to accept it. If not,
natural selection will do us in... as the days of encroachment and
extinction, of species, are numbered. The age of expansion and
life-extension is upon us.
The questions are. Can we humanely manage our collective resources? or,
will we continue down the path of sovereign-selfishness? Where the
greedy chastise the needy for ignorantly burdening the planet with too
much life. Note: recently a nonprofit group, whose name escapes me at
the moment, took a look at global food production and population. The
result was 4.6 pounds of food per person, per day. Does that sound like
a population problem to you? And, since I wrote more than I planned --
for my first post to this group, I shall refrain from making
pollution/eco-impact comparisions.
life is sweet,
be sweet on life.
Claude
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SonicS...@webtv.net (Claude Rallins) wrote:
> When I look out into the universe I say to myself ... We don't have
> quite enough people just yet. The truth of the matter is we can never
> have to many people. The problem is not population... it's consumption.
> Take a look at the population- consumption index. On average, the top
> 20% consumes 7x more than the remaining 80%. Do the math (mr. math).
> (source: U.N. 1998 Human Development Report).
>
Yep!! That is the search of All Mankind = How to obtain a lowered standard of
living = Not!!!!
Good Article in the "Atlantic Monthly:
http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/bookauth/kuttner/rkint.htm
Headline:
The Vanity of Human Markets
Robert Kuttner challenges the prevailing orthodoxy of laissez-faire economics
February 26, 1997
In a recent column appearing on The New York Times op-ed page, Thomas L.
Friedman referred to the now-famous remark by Alan Greenspan that Wall
Street's ongoing rise is being driven by "irrational exuberance." Friedman
countered that when looking at the United States economy from abroad
(especially from Europe and Japan), "some exuberance seems quite rational."
In fact, if you had to design a country best suited to compete in a world
whose defining feature is "globalization," he continued, "in many respects
you would have designed today's America." This view reflects the other
defining feature of our historical moment: free-market capitalism is
ascendant across the planet, while here at home the ideology of laissez-faire
economics has returned with a vengeance during the past fifteen years after
decades of Keynesian liberalism. But if the prevailing winds are blowing in
favor of ever-expanding and freer markets, in the past few months there have
been some notable gusts in other directions. The billionaire financier and
philanthropist George Soros wrote in the February issue of The Atlantic
Monthly that the main threat to our "open society" is no longer Communism but
capitalism. A widely noted book by the journalist William Greider, One World,
Ready or Not: The Manic Logic of Global Capitalism, warns that "Our wondrous
[economic] machine ... appears to be running out of control toward some sort
of abyss." And of course there's Greenspan himself, whose comment about
"irrational exuberance" gave many in the financial world pause. ....
Go and read it!
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Claude Rallins
What you are defending is not a high standard of living, but a glutinous
standard of dieing.
There are many schools of economics. Before you tell me what school I
beleive in you might ask me. Civility in consumption, as well as in
assumptions, require consideration of others. This lack of global
civility is most often excused/ defended with the words -- We have a
"high standard of living". How oxymoronic.
The civilty of consumption also requires the consideration of
eco-systems and the bio-diversity of species. To this end I belong to
the school of economics Paul Hawkin calls Natural Capitalism. He
writes:
"Somewhere along the way to free-market capitalism, the United States
became the most wasteful society on the planet. One is tempted to say
that there is nothing wrong with capitalism except that it has never
been tried. Our current industrial system is based on accounting
principles that would bankrupt any company. Conventional economic
theories will not guide our future for a simple reason: They have never
placed "natural capital" on the balance sheet. When it is included, not
as a free amenity or as a putative infinite supply, but as an integral
and valuable part of the production process, everything changes. Prices,
costs, and what is and isn't economically sound change dramatically. To
create a policy that supports resource productivity will require a shift
away from taxing the social "good" of labor, toward taxing the social
"bads" of resource exploitation, pollution, fossil fuels, and waste. "
See his book Natural Capitalism, or his article in Mother Jones, and
other related information found at his web site:
http://csf.Colorado.EDU/authors/Agerley.Harald/mylin/gatepage.htm
Go and read it!!