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H. E. Taylor

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Feb 11, 2007, 6:32:40 PM2/11/07
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Greetings,
Recently size and HTML restrictions on 'free' NNTP servers
have been curtailing my "Another week of GW news" posts.

I put up the raw collections at:
http://www.autobahn.mb.ca/~het/enviro/gwnews.html

Coby Beck has been posting the annotated form
at his blog: A Few Things Ill Considered.
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/

I am considering posting the annotated form on
Autobahn as well, but haven't got that together yet.

<regards>
-het

PS.
You can access the previous postings of this series at:
<http://tinyurl.com/9zyom>
which should open to:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&scoring=d&as_ugroup=sci.environment&as_usubject=%22Another+week+of+GW+news%22&&safe=off>

PPS.

Another week of GW news - January 28, 2007
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2007/01/another-week-of-gw-news-january-28-2007.html
Another week of GW news - February 4, 2007
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2007/02/week-of-ipcc-news-february-4-2007.html
Another week of GW news - February 11, 2007
(forthcoming)


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"The scientific debate is over. It now becomes an economic and political
debate over how to deal with the problem of global warming."
-Spencer Weart, director of AIP's Center for History of Physics

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kdt...@yahoo.com

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Feb 11, 2007, 9:44:45 PM2/11/07
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On Feb 11, 5:32 pm, "H. E. Taylor" <h...@despam.autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:

> --
> "The scientific debate is over. It now becomes an economic and political
> debate over how to deal with the problem of global warming."
> -Spencer Weart, director of AIP's Center for History of Physics
>

Well the debate may be over. It always has been already to the idiots
of AGW who had their minds already decided in their superstition and
ignore any and all science.

THE INVESTIGATION IS JUST BEGINNING
Now it is just an issue of how to deal with these criminals of AGW and
their prison sentences for entering their fraudulent science into
testimony. Burden of proof can be a very real thing.

If the AGW assholes think they can enter this statement of scientific
conclusion into the US hearings in congress this year as their burden
of proof, they need to wake up and smell the melting ice caps.

The fact is the debate over how to deal with the issue of global
warming does not include the wasteful and useless abatement of
CO2.This would be a waste of energy which we need to conserve, and
would drag down the economy without in any way affecting any warming
trends. CO2 causes no warming of the atmosphere.
The scientific investigation into the claims of AGW is just beginning.
This means every little tenet of their intentionally complex bullshit.

Deatherage

Hydrogen FREEDOM

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Feb 11, 2007, 10:54:54 PM2/11/07
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On Feb 11, 6:44 pm, kdth...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 11, 5:32 pm, "H. E. Taylor" <h...@despam.autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
>
> > --
> > "The scientific debate is over. It now becomes an economic and political
> > debate over how to deal with the problem of global warming."
> > -Spencer Weart, director of AIP's Center for History of Physics
>
> Well the debate may be over.
>
> Deatherage

.... it's about wealth-shifting: Exxon shifts YOUR Wealth to Exxon,
Yes, we got it!

http://ScienceCop.info/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=TheSunBetrayed
http://sciencecop.info/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=TheCarbonWar
http://sciencecop.info/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Cartel+Solar+Patents

http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html
Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil's Tobacco-like Disinformation
Campaign on Global Warming Science -- Oil Company Spent Nearly $16
Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create Confusion

VistaJustWorks

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Feb 21, 2007, 10:31:07 PM2/21/07
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<kdt...@yahoo.com> wrote

> Well the debate may be over. It always has been already to the idiots
> of AGW who had their minds already decided in their superstition and
> ignore any and all science.

Ah, like your home roofing science in which you show that after sniffing the
proper amount of roofing tar, CO2 doesn't absorb Infared Radiation.

I laughed so hard I almost pissed my pants when you cam up with that
nonsense.

Names are being taken for the coming execution of those who knowingly
delayed action until it was too late.

You have been warned.


kdt...@yahoo.com

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Feb 22, 2007, 2:03:14 AM2/22/07
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On Feb 21, 9:31 pm, "VistaJustWorks" <BushIsATrai...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> <kdth...@yahoo.com> wrote

In interglacial periods, a max is usually reached above 2C of the
mean. You have no science of global warming and cannot even define the
term or any term you use such as IR.
Laws are designed to protect society and you refer to capital
punishment for those that only know that you have no English, science
or rational or social conciousness.

Little worms like you can spit out your fantasies all day. We'll see
if this rinky dink science that you use to make yourself feel
important ever passes through US law, regardless if you get the
politicians to pass it.

Cause and effect. Your piss ant little mind gets a worm wiggling
through it and your turd sucking mouth spits out some normal imaginary
fantasies of your self importance and your acclimation to control and
abuse of the democracy that tolerates little diseased runts like
yourself. Do we just give you this badge of POLICE AND EXECUTIONER, or
will you just hire yourself another Joseph Stalin??

Deatherage
CO2Phobia is a dangerous and fatal disease like rabies


Hydrogen TRUTH

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Feb 22, 2007, 2:18:12 AM2/22/07
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The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?

We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.

We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
installed base.

We learned that if we projected these trends out into the future that
PV would take over as the whole electricity supplier no later than 35
years from now, in the year 2042.

We learned that our national electric bill would be $9,106,650,000,000
just paying the same monthly bills every month for 35 years, changing
nothing, doing nothing different than we do today.

We learned that switching to PV at an accelerated pace, we could save
$5,392,521,000,000 in that 35 years by not paying monthly electric
bills.

Global Warming Has Been Cancelled by H2-PV

A 25% growth of PV per year, as happened from 1979 through 2000, until
Bush crowd took over, projected into the future shows three FREEDOM
DAYS.

A 19% price decrease every time the installed PV base doubles, as
happened from 1979 through 2000, until the Bush crowd took over, shows
the price of each FREEDOM DAY. Doubling occurs every 3 years at 25%
compounded annual growth.

Spreadsheets are online to provide the details of the increases and
decreases from any arbitrary price point chosen by changing the master
price cell.

http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/scenario_2b.html
http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/scenario_2b.sxc
http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/scenario_2b.xls

FREEDOM DAY #1 is the date that the PV watts installed equals the
whole country consumption of electricity. Other sources are still
needed for off-hours power.

FREEDOM DAY #2 is the date that the PV doubles and the extra PV goes
to storing energy at 50% round trip efficiency or better, like power
is now stored in pumped reservoirs at 50% efficiency electricity to
electricity round trip.

FREEDOM DAY #3 is the date when PV surplus is sufficient to power all
electricity and make hydrogen sufficient to fuel all 200,000,000 cars
and light trucks in America.

THE COST OF NOTHING is also computed. This is the costs of paying for
electricity at the meter forever and ever, changing NOTHING, doing
NOTHING.

http://hydrogentruth.info/page_4a2.html
Freedom Day

http://hydrogentruth.info/page_4a3.html
The Cost of Nothing

DO THE MATH
$10,667,790,000,000 Utility Bills
-$10,031,886,000,000 H2-PV
========
$635,904,000,000 H2-PV Savings

That's $635,904,000,000
(BILLION with a B)

Do it YOUR WAY, Nothing, and spend $10.668 TRILLION, just get
electricity and more bills every month forever.

Do it the H2-PV RIGHT WAY and get all your electricity and all your
car fill-ups, plus save $635 BILLION for other things. Only pay $200
per person once every 20 years thereafter for replacement PV.

http://hydrogentruth.info/Villains/Debunking_Robert_Zubri ...

Store 10,000,000,000 kilograms of Hydrogen in a nationwide pipeline
grid by just increasing the pressure one atmosphere (14.5 psi).

http://hydrogentruth.info/page_07a.html
Hydrogen Pipelines

More spreadsheets:
http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/

VistaJustWorks

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Feb 22, 2007, 2:26:34 AM2/22/07
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<kdt...@yahoo.com> wrote

> In interglacial periods, a max is usually reached above 2C of the
> mean.

It doen't take much of a temperature change to dramatically alter the
global climate now does it? Fool.


<kdt...@yahoo.com> wrote


> You have no science of global warming and cannot even define the
> term or any term you use such as IR.

IR, Infared Radiation, meaning below the Red or under the Red. In this
context the terms "under" and "below" refer to the frequency of the
radiation, specifically indicating that the frequency is lower or under the
frequency of the light we call Red.

Stupid... Stupid... Kdthrge.


<kdt...@yahoo.com> wrote


> Laws are designed to protect society and you refer to capital
> punishment for those that only know that you have no English, science
> or rational or social conciousness.

I will feign an attempt to protect you from the masses and then hand them
a rope and direct them to take you and the others to an appropriate tree
branch.

Turn yourself in and there will probably be a choice of execution methods.

Or you can just off yourself.


<kdt...@yahoo.com> wrote


> Little worms like you can spit out your fantasies all day. We'll see
> if this rinky dink science that you use to make yourself feel
> important ever passes through US law, regardless if you get the
> politicians to pass it.

It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. Right now, the worlds
scientists are nearing full revolt, with all significant scientific
organizations in every part of the world sounding the Global Warming Alarm.

Ignore them and face the consequences of execution for crimes against
humanity and nature.


<kdt...@yahoo.com> wrote


> Cause and effect. Your piss ant little mind gets a worm wiggling
> through it and your turd sucking mouth spits out some normal imaginary
> fantasies of your self importance and your acclimation to control and
> abuse of the democracy that tolerates little diseased runts like
> yourself. Do we just give you this badge of POLICE AND EXECUTIONER, or
> will you just hire yourself another Joseph Stalin??

Capitulate and survive, or resist and suffer the horrific consequences of
your ignorance and deceit.

You are on public record, and your name is known.


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