Global Temperature Updates - October 2009
Falcon
October 2009 UAH Global Temperature Update +0.28 deg. C
AMSR-E show SSTs cooling. http://tinyurl.com/ykzddwj
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Falcon:
fide, sed cui vide. (L)
Falcon
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
> "Falcon" <fal...@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>> October 2009 UAH Global Temperature Update +0.28 deg. C
>> AMSR-E show SSTs cooling. http://tinyurl.com/ykzddwj
>
> RSS AMSU LT shows approx. the same.
>
> Also, USA shows a very drastic cooling... -1,597 �C!
Not all trends have taken a downward turn.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
kdt...@earthlink.net
> Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
> > "Falcon" <fal...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> >> October 2009 UAH Global Temperature Update +0.28 deg. C
>
> > RSS AMSU LT shows approx. the same.
>
> > Also, USA shows a very drastic cooling... -1,597 °C!
>
>
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> Falcon:
> fide, sed cui vide. (L)
That's right, keep up the hopes that maybe this will be the year that
exceeds 98. Otherwise the FLAT trend continues, which is also not
compatible in any means at all with theoretical CO2 warming.
Greenie weenies should pray to their god, algore, that this year they
will be able to fudge the figures or something so they can claim the
warming trend that they desparately need to fulfill their feeling of
importance and neccesity to modern society.
Maybe Hansen will figure out a way to alter the statistics with some
more corrections to portray a warming trend in between his time he
spends as political activist and terrorist to our energy
infrastructure in organizing demonstrations and disruption of
particular energy supplies with his propaganizing of uneducated
activists.
Just what the public pays for with his salary.
KD
enigma
retreat and ice shelves breaking up?
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/516/index.html
http://www.livescience.com/environment/060324_glacier_melt.html
All I see you people post are blogs,, opinionated garbage and weather
reports.
If the global was indeed cooling as you claim, why isn't it being
reported on in the news media?
The truth is perfectly clear!
The globe is WARMING. Cooling wouldn't cause a massive glacial melt
down!
Falcon
enigma wrote:
> Is your claim in sync with a photographic record that shows glacial
> retreat and ice shelves breaking up?
I haven't claimed anything. The analysis is from professional climate
scientists, at the University of Alabama in Huntsville (UAH). Temperature
trends from radiosondes closely match the v5.2 UAH dataset. [Christy
et.al.(2007) http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2005JD006881.shtml ]
Falcon
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
> Peter Muehlbauer <spamt...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
>> CO2 trend is out of discussion for me, as it might be a delayed
>> reaction from the MVP.
>
> * MWP
Thanks. I was wondering what MVP was. ;-)
>> But assuming, there might be a hypothetical link between T and CO2
>> as AGWs always claim, this is evidence that MVP climate was warmer
>> than today.
>> In this case, inclining CO2 while T does not follow, it entirely
>> disproves their own theory :-)
>>
>> As CO2 has almost no or not enough influence on climate, but has a
>> positive effect on plants and life, I hope it will increase further.
>> If only to prove AGW a lie.
kdt...@earthlink.net
What a fool you are.
The Titanic was sunk by a massive iceberg calved from the glaciers
that extended into the sea from greenland. By the 1930's these
glaciers had retreated back to land, and shipping in the N. Atlantic
no longer has to worry about these deadly icebergs. The icebergs from
the seasonal melt are not nearly as massive, condensed, or as
dangerous.
Was it humans that caused this melting? Impossible. No viable
mathematics for human cause, and if these mathematics were vialble,
they simply prove that the change now is beyond our power by carbon
tax to stop.
The ice extended to St. Louis 18000 years ago, and has been melting
since. If there is any contribution from humans to he melting ice, it
is absolutely impossible that even the most draconian attempts to
reduce our carbon output, could in any way affect conditions in time
to stop the melting. CO2 is now nearly 1/3 higher than when the
Greenland glaciers melted back to shore.
Ice takes a long time to melt, Even after the temperatures above
freezing are reached.
According to your CO2 chart, CO2 was below 310ppm in the thirties.
These glaciers advanced during the time of the little ice age, which
appears to be a N Atlantic occurance along with the MVP. Therefore, it
is clear that these flucuations are caused by changes in the
'conveyor' of ocean currents of which the gulf stream is only part of
the conveyance of warm water from the Indian ocean to the north
atlantic, where the temperatures of Europe are completely dependent
upon this heat energy for their moderate temperatures.
Britain is the same lattitude of Nova Scotia, or the middle of Canada.
For this region to be warmed by imported energy from the ocean, means
there is great possibility of fluctuations.
And in the supposed world average in which a warming trend is
indicated, the fluctuation which affects this average the very most
are the European temperatures.
In fact if one takes a valid look at the US temperatures from the
30's, this warming trend is not apparent in US statistics. This is
also true of most regions, which in itself completely defeats the
theoretical basis of CO2 caused warming.
There is no science for AGW. Just psuedo science and those prone to
algore's propaganda that the melting ice is indication of human caused
warming and justification for the entirely futile plans for forced
reduction of the use of fuels.
Since he is wealthy, he doesn't assume this will affect him, as his
lifelstyle and exorbitant use of carbon fuels shows. He states clearly
that his mission is to get the government to strangle the middle class
and working class from the fuel which they only use for survival,
while he suggests to the wealthy that they will be able to use fuel
beyond their survivable needs if they only pay a higher price.
Algore should be held reponsible for any individual harmed by such
plans. He cannot show by any science, any benefit to his program which
will clearly have empirical fact of the destruction of individual
lives and the economy.
With proper lawsuits he will be stripped of all his wealth, and
hopefully imprisoned for his unjustified attack upon the US energy
infrastructure. Only in just deserts for a pathological liar, who also
commits lies with the omission of pertinent fact. As only a punk assed
rich boy from Tennessee could be, in being so detached and
unaccountable from REALITY.
KD
The ship of fools of the BELIEVERS in anthropogenic global warming
sails on,,,
Next stop,, the marina on No Paddle Island, up Shit Creek
leona...@gmail.com
> Is your claim in sync with a photographic record that shows glacial
> retreat and ice shelves breaking up?
>
> http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/516/index.html
>
> http://www.livescience.com/environment/060324_glacier_melt.html
>
> All I see you people post are blogs,, opinionated garbage and weather
> reports.
> If the global was indeed cooling as you claim, why isn't it being
> reported on in the news media?
>
> The truth is perfectly clear!
•• That is true!! But it is not what you think
> The globe is WARMING.
•• ROTFLMAO
Cooling wouldn't cause a massive glacial melt
> down!
What 'glacial melt down'?????
•• Three months of every year polar ice melts
and then builds up again
— —
. In real science the burden of proof is always
. on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
. neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
. iota of valid data for global warming nor have
. they provided data that climate change is being
. effected by commerce and industry, and not by
. natural phenomena.
leona...@gmail.com
I M @ good guy
<spamt...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
>CO2 trend is out of discussion for me, as it might be a delayed
>reaction from the MVP.
What is MVP, Most Valuable Player?
Or Medieval Varm Period in German? :-)
>But assuming, there might be a hypothetical link between T and CO2
>as AGWs always claim, this is evidence that MVP climate was warmer
>than today.
>In this case, inclining CO2 while T does not follow, it entirely disproves
>their own theory :-)
>
>As CO2 has almost no or not enough influence on climate, but has a positive
>effect on plants and life, I hope it will increase further.
>If only to prove AGW a lie.
Today was warm, too bad it won't continue.
I M @ good guy
>On Nov 7, 3:30 pm, enigma <enigma_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is your claim in sync with a photographic record that shows glacial
>> retreat and ice shelves breaking up?
>>
>> http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/516/index.html
>>
>> http://www.livescience.com/environment/060324_glacier_melt.html
>>
>> All I see you people post are blogs,, opinionated garbage and weather
>> reports.
>> If the global was indeed cooling as you claim, why isn't it being
>> reported on in the news media?
>>
>> The truth is perfectly clear!
>
>•• That is true!! But it is not what you think
>
>
>> The globe is WARMING.
>
>•• ROTFLMAO
>
> Cooling wouldn't cause a massive glacial melt
>> down!
>
>What 'glacial melt down'?????
>
>•• Three months of every year polar ice melts
> and then builds up again
No, she means the one 18,000 years ago.