Scott Nudds - ignoramus of the millenium [Long]
David Lodge
reads sci.environment - this is to explain why about the crossposted
thread with comp.os.linux.advocacy exists]
As you all know Mr Nudds has been vigourously cross-posting poor
emails on how "Scott Nudds Unfriendly" Unix is, greatly winding up the
Linux advocates and pissing off the people is sci.environment due to
its irrelevance...
Noticing that Mr Nudds has declared a vast knowledge of computers I've
gone around and have been exploring his past posts to other
newsgroups:
--- From comp.lang.c ---
Re: Scott Nudd - Hopless Debate
Date: 1997/02/11
Greg Chapman wrote:
> In article <5dmjtk$r...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>,
> af...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Scott Nudds) wrote:
> > This is correct. Assembler can be made to be as portable as C.
> Woah - haven't you be claiming "C portability is a myth?"
--- From alt.lang.asm ---
Allen Pendegraph (the_...@made.me.do.it) wrote:
: He's a "professional" troll who consistently pisses off large numbers
: of people by arguing absurd stances on religious issues (programming
: languages, operating systems, piracy, etc) and spotlighting anyone who
: disagrees with him.
I repsond to messages appearing in asm.x86 only. If any message
from me appears outside of this group it is the direct result of C
pushers seeking to bring fresh C pusher recruits into the discussion
and/or piss off the members of other newsgroups.
--- From alt.gothic ---
Researchers, Pro And Con, Cite Gore's Science Acumen - August 31, 1992
----------------------------------------------------
- The Scientist - Vol:6, #17 - Barton Reppert -
[rest of article snipped as is totally out of charter for the group]
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http://205.232.65.200/hotlips73/index.htm
--- From comp.os.vms (!)---
Re: I need info on Carl Lydick's posts
Author: Scott Nudds <af...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
Date: 1997/12/12
Forums: comp.os.vms, sci.environment, misc.health.diabetes
Jon Browne (j...@comics.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: It was diabetes, you stupid little fuck, like the other 10,000 people
: you've just posted to at misc. health diabetes. Now, fuck off and die
: quickly, you piece of shit.
Too bad. I was really looking forward to showing my appreciation
toward some bugs.
--------------------
Now you have seen some of Mr Nudds posting history (there is a lot
more, some of it showing even more ignorance!) This can lead us to the
conclusion: Mr Nudds, is a ignorant troll who presumes that he is
always right. He is never prepared to offer evidence to prove this,
and he doesn't give a shit about who he offends. He also has no
concept of what 'cross-posting' is and can't understand that a group
outside of the subject at hand isn't interested.
Some common Nudds phrases: "C pushers" "Unix pushers" "Conservative
Fasciests [sic]"
Mr Nudds; get a life, learn to read around subjects and listen to
somebody else's opinion. Nobody is always right. Also making up
statistics is not a good way to win a pointless argument. Please come
back in 10 years when you have some maturity.
dave
--
David 'I just get these headaches' Lodge, da...@muspellheim.demon.co.uk
"So many causes I could die for - but I don't know which is right,
In this millenia of martyrs and injustices to fight."
- Skyclad "A Broken Promised Land"
Abdul Alhazred
Oh, for crying out loud. Killfile him and get on with your life.
Scott Nudds
linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
This is how Unix users respond to the fact that the truthful report that
Unix is dying. Declining from an 80% OS marketshare to 1.5-1.7% over the
last 20 years.
I think it's quite funny. It just goes to show how childish, dishonest,
and out of touch with reality they are.
David Lodge (use...@muspellheim.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: --- From alt.sex.stories ---
: http://205.232.65.200/hotlips73/index.htm
Carl Lydick is dead. The world is a better place for it.
Donal K. Fellows
Scott Nudds <af...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca> wrote:
> The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
> linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
FYI, it is similarly difficult to do whatever operating system you are
using. No respectable news client will support that, and the
incidence of non-respectable news clients is higher on Windows (more
lame kids.)
> This is how Unix users respond to the fact that the truthful report
> that Unix is dying.
I imagine that the imminent death of UNIX has been predicted for at
least 25 years. Are corpses _supposed_ to be growing?
> Declining from an 80% OS marketshare to 1.5-1.7% over the last 20
> years.
Wow! I didn't know it was possible to demonstrate a complete Lack Of
Clue in so many areas at once (economics, statistics, net.history to
name just a few topics that appear to have passed you by.)
> I think it's quite funny. It just goes to show how childish, dishonest,
> and out of touch with reality they are.
You don't strike me as being particularly adult, honest and aware yourself.
>> --- From comp.os.vms (!)---
>> Re: I need info on Carl Lydick's posts
>> Author: Scott Nudds <af...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
>> Date: 1997/12/12
>> Forums: comp.os.vms, sci.environment, misc.health.diabetes
>> Jon Browne (j...@comics.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>>> It was diabetes, you stupid little fuck, like the other 10,000 people
>>> you've just posted to at misc. health diabetes. Now, fuck off and die
>>> quickly, you piece of shit.
>> Too bad. I was really looking forward to showing my appreciation
>> toward some bugs.
>
> Carl Lydick is dead. The world is a better place for it.
That's boorish and uncharitable. You are a bounder, a cad, a
slimeball. If you must be a complete waste of oxygen and your
parents' love and devotion, at least do the world a favour and don't
use USENET. Or email. Or telephones, motor vehicles, bicycles,
boats, aeroplanes, horses, oxen, donkeys, huskies, elephants and
three-toed sloths!
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ fell...@cs.man.ac.uk
Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. +44-161-275-6137
--
"And remember, evidence is nothing." - Stacy Strock <sp...@adisfwb.com>
Jerry
>
> The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
> linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
>
> last 20 years.
>
> and out of touch with reality they are.
Oh yeah Nudds - well I'll be looking for your slander claim then. When
somebody claims, in public, that you are a sexual pervert that is the
normal procedure - sadly you know its all true and so will not be going
to court about this.
So - unless you start court proceedings I will asume its true - and so
will everyone else.....
>
> David Lodge (use...@muspellheim.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : --- From alt.sex.stories ---
> : Horny sisters share everything....even your dick! 25024
> : Author: af329 <af...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
> : Date: 1998/04/11
> : Forums: alt.sex.stories, alt.sex.stories.d, alt.sex.strip-clubs,
> : alt.sex.swingers, alt.sex.swingers.uk,
> : alt.sex.trio.hetero.for-she.amateur.all-gratis, alt.sex.voxmeet,
> : alt.sex.voyeurism, alt.sex.wanted
>
> : ASIAN DELIGHTS
> : HUGE ORGY SCENES
> : NO COST....FREE
>
> : http://205.134.174.220/dee/
>
> : --- From alt.sex.graphics ---
> : CloseUP~~Fucking PIC~~MUST SEE~~
> : Author: af329 <af...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
> : Date: 1998/04/11
> : Forums: alt.sex.graphics, alt.sex.incest, alt.sex.intergen,
> : alt.sex.masturbation, alt.sex.motss, alt.sex.movies,
> : alt.sex.oral, alt.sex.orgy, alt.sex.passwords
>
> : http://205.232.65.200/hotlips73/index.htm
>
> : --- From comp.os.vms (!)---
David Lodge
Nudds) wrote:
> The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
>linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
Okay; here are the URLs for the message's including full headers from
DejaNews - Now if you're accusing DejaNews of fabricating the headers
to slander you I think you'd better see your lawyers...
BTW this is what's known as showing your sources for facts, unlike you
can do shown by this paragraph:
> This is how Unix users respond to the fact that the truthful report that
>Unix is dying. Declining from an 80% OS marketshare to 1.5-1.7% over the
>last 20 years.
WTF have *your* past posts got to do with Unix market share - as I've
said before get in touch with reality.
> I think it's quite funny. It just goes to show how childish, dishonest,
>and out of touch with reality they are.
I think it's funny that you aren't mature enough to admit that these
are your posts...
The URLS of your posts (with headers showing that the message
originated from freenet.hamilton.on.ca):
http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342205383
http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342068591
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Simon Kinahan
> The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
> linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
Its easy for anyone with half a brain cell and a copy of telnet, or a
decent newsreader. If people fake messages from you maybe you should take
the hint ?
> This is how Unix users respond to the fact that the truthful report that
> Unix is dying. Declining from an 80% OS marketshare to 1.5-1.7% over the
> last 20 years.
When did Unix ever have 80% of anything ?
Simon
Scott Nudds
: Nudds) wrote:
: > The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
: >linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
David Lodge (use...@muspellheim.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Okay; here are the URLs for the message's including full headers from
: DejaNews - Now if you're accusing DejaNews of fabricating the headers
: to slander you I think you'd better see your lawyers...
I don't accuse deja news of fabrication- I accuse Unix religionists of
fabrication.
I made this quite clear. For what purpose does Lodge knowingly
misinterpret what I said?
Scott Nudds
: > The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
: > linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
Simon Kinahan (sim...@cadence.com) wrote:
: Its easy for anyone with half a brain cell and a copy of telnet, or a
: decent newsreader. If people fake messages from you maybe you should take
: the hint ?
Why take a hint when one can learn the entire lesson?
The lesson is that Unix religionists - like all polluted individuals,
will resort to any action - fabricating messages - lying - deceit -
misquoting - denialism - etc. to further their political goals. In this
case, the advancement of Linux.
I on the other hand, prefer honesty.
David Lodge
>: > The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
>: >linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
>: Okay; here are the URLs for the message's including full headers from
>: DejaNews - Now if you're accusing DejaNews of fabricating the headers
>: to slander you I think you'd better see your lawyers...
> I don't accuse deja news of fabrication- I accuse Unix religionists of
>fabrication.
Proof? The messages came from from hamilton.on.ca - your provider,
using your email address. They where posted sometime ago, and are
therefore caould not have been sent by somebody for this discussion,
and they have only being pointed out by Me.
If somebody had wanted to post messages like these to embaress you
when they would have probably stated: "look here, look what Scott has
done"
> I made this quite clear. For what purpose does Lodge knowingly
>misinterpret what I said?
For what purpose are you so paranoid that yoiu think somebody would
waste their time sending messages to sex newsgroups under your name?
Grow up.
dave
Scott Nudds
: Proof? The messages came from from hamilton.on.ca - your provider,
: using your email address. They where posted sometime ago, and are
: therefore caould not have been sent by somebody for this discussion,
: and they have only being pointed out by Me.
David Lodge is not smart enough to realize that message headers contain
not only the name of the sender, but the point of origin and the date of
the message.
If someone can fabricate one, they can fabricate all. As the Unix
droids have done.
Childish. But since they can't vanquish reality, they would rather
slander anyone who presents any reality that conflicts with their confused
world view.
: For what purpose are you so paranoid that yoiu think somebody would
: waste their time sending messages to sex newsgroups under your name?
My service provider has never provided access to such groups - making it
quite impossible for me to post to them.
How were the messages deposited there under my name - under my providers
account name then?
They were forged.
Who were they forged by?
Clearly by Unix Robots who have the ability and the hate filled
motivation to slander someone who presents the truth that Unix is crap.
It's quite simple really. What don' t you comprehend?
Scott Nudds
Please note that my first attempt to post this response failed as a
result of failure on the part of the Unix environment. Failure that Unix
droids have insisted is a worthy feature that must be maintained.
Their philosophy demonstrates why Unix continues it's decline into
oblivion.
: Scott Nudds <af...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca> wrote:
: > The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
: > linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
Donal K. Fellows (fell...@cs.man.ac.uk) wrote:
: FYI, it is similarly difficult to do whatever operating system you are
: using. No respectable news client will support that, and the
: incidence of non-respectable news clients is higher on Windows (more
: lame kids.)
The assumption is that these Unix robots are respectable. They are not
as their repeated lies indicate.
It takes little imagination to conclude that someone who lies in order
to promote their pet OS, is also going to be motivated to use their pet OS
to slander others who prove their world view to be a fantasy.
What are the facts of this case.
I did not post the messages in question. - I couldn't have since hwcn
has never carried the groups to which the messages were posted - hence the
messages could not have originated from this service - hence they must
have been forged.
Unix pushers have admitted to having the source for their news readers
and have claimed that they can modify the code whenever they like.
Unix pushers have proven themselves to be willing to lie in order to
defend thier pet OS.
I have received warnings both in Email and otherwise that I should not
be saying what I am saying - something bad might happen to me.
They have the means, motivation and have provded warnings.
They are therefore the prime suspects in this campaign of slander and
illegal false attribution.
Fellows wrote:
: I imagine that the imminent death of UNIX has been predicted for at
: least 25 years. Are corpses _supposed_ to be growing?
Perhaps. But for the last 25 years I have been reading that Unix was
going to take over the OS market any day now. And every day it's market
share declined. Now down from 80% to 1.5-1.7%.
: > Declining from an 80% OS marketshare to 1.5-1.7% over the last 20
: > years.
Fellows wrote:
: Wow! I didn't know it was possible to demonstrate a complete Lack Of
: Clue in so many areas at once (economics, statistics, net.history to
: name just a few topics that appear to have passed you by.)
Indeed. That Unix robots deny the above statistics proves without
question that they don't have a clue.
Do you accept these numbers? Or don't you have a clue either?
Yusuf Motara
> : Scott Nudds wrote:
> : > The following message attributions are fabrications. It is easy for
> : > linux users to hack their news readers to falsify the orign of posts.
>
> Simon Kinahan (sim...@cadence.com) wrote:
> : Its easy for anyone with half a brain cell and a copy of telnet, or a
> : decent newsreader. If people fake messages from you maybe you should take
> : the hint ?
>
> Why take a hint when one can learn the entire lesson?
>
> The lesson is that Unix religionists - like all polluted individuals,
> will resort to any action - fabricating messages - lying - deceit -
> misquoting - denialism - etc. to further their political goals. In this
> case, the advancement of Linux.
>
> I on the other hand, prefer honesty.
So you're against marketing, Nudds? Because that's what it seems like. And if
you prefer honesty, I'd like to know why you aren't up in arms about M$'s
computer-switching demonstration. Oh, and here's a hint: Linux is not exactly
"political", is it, so don't call the advancement of Linux a "political" goal?
Scott Nudds is the reason behind many of my recent decisions to stay at home
.... you see, he's a hell of a lot more funny than anyone else I know. But
it's finally hit me -- he's not joking. No, ladies and gentlemen, he actually
believes what he's saying! So I've got a few questions for you, Nudds:
1. Where do you work? You program, therefore it must be in a technical
environment. Therefore, you *must* come into contact with some other people
who program -- professional programmers even. You work with Unix.
2. Since you are presumably in a job which requires that you talk to some
programmers **EVERY DAY**, do all of them agree with your crackpot views on
Unix? And if the answer to this is "Yes", I shall find it extremely hard to
believe, unless of course you work for M$ or someone like that.
3. Your statistics. I've been reading your posts for 3 weeks now, and each
and every time someone asks your for the source of your Unix statistics, you
say that you've posted them before. So I was intrigued, and looked for this
wonderful, factual post which you said you posted. And guess what? It turns
out that YOU HAVE NEVER, EVER POSTED THE SOURCE OF YOUR UNIX STATISTICS!!
Strange but true. So why don't you reply to this post and tell us your source
so that I can snigge^H^H^H^H^H^H, er, see that it is unbiased.
I think that I speak for us all in saying that these answers will clear up a
whole lot of things.
A few more things: I saw this interesting statement (by you) in another thread
about the people who have ever bought the RedHat CD having it sit on their
shelf and never be used. Interesting. Well, let's injects some reality here:
**I** happen to be someone who is sick and tired of Windoze inefficiency, and I
am moving to Linux. I find it remarkably easy, fast, slick, better in every
way than Windows. And the RedHat CD is definitely not shelfware at my place,
it's used frequently. Four friends have already used it to install Linux on
*their* systems, and we're all using it in preference to M$-DOS and Windoze.
Explain this personal example away, if you can.
And incidentally, some people posted some time ago, daring you to deny that
Windows 3.0/3.11/95/98 is merely a DOS-program, I haven't seen you deny this
yet -- maybe because you cannot?
-=Yusuf=-
PS Don't worry about your sexgroup posts, everyone's got to come out of the
closet sometime, eh, Nuddsy .... <spirited rendition of "YMCA"....>
Hydratwo
>From: Yusuf Motara <ss...@hippo.ru.ac.za>
>Date: 2/6/99 8:40 AM EST
>Message-id: <36BC4634...@hippo.ru.ac.za>
Do you guys realize that Nudds is continueing this argument on the
SCI.ENVIRONMENT newsgroup. He is demonstating total ignorance in his misuse of
USENET, but to some degree (possibly unwittingly) you responders are also
contributing to the irritation of others.
Scott Nudds
: > The lesson is that Unix religionists - like all polluted individuals,
: > will resort to any action - fabricating messages - lying - deceit -
: > misquoting - denialism - etc. to further their political goals. In this
: > case, the advancement of Linux.
: >
: > I on the other hand, prefer honesty.
Yusuf Motara (ss...@hippo.ru.ac.za) wrote:
: So you're against marketing, Nudds? Because that's what it seems like.
Yusuf Motara seems to think that - Fabricating messages - lying - deceit
- misquoting - denialism - etc. is what marketing is all about.
If this is the kind of "marketing" that Yusuf is defending then I am
indeed opposed to it - as is every other honest person.
Why isn't Mr. Motara?
Motara wrote:
: And if
: you prefer honesty, I'd like to know why you aren't up in arms about M$'s
: computer-switching demonstration.
Clearly because that is not the topic of this discussion. The topic is
that inferior and pathetic nature of Unix - as an explanation for its
decline to near oblivion.
Unix pushers hate Microsoft because it has pushed their pet OS almost
completely out of the marketplace. As a result they repeatedly try to
make this a Unix vs. Microsoft debate.
I have no interest in defending Microsoft - and maintain what I have
manintained for the last 15 years - that Microsoft should be broken up
into two companies - one developing operating systems and the other
applications.
Yusuf wrote:
: Scott Nudds is the reason behind many of my recent decisions to stay at home
: .... you see, he's a hell of a lot more funny than anyone else I know. But
: it's finally hit me -- he's not joking. No, ladies and gentlemen, he actually
: believes what he's saying!
I do. And I fully recognize that Unix Droids believe much of what they
are saying, dispite the fact that it is a delusion.
For some people - self deception is a way of life.
I prefer reality.
Please remove sci.environment from your response.
Yusuf writes:
: wonderful, factual post which you said you posted. And guess what? It turns
: out that YOU HAVE NEVER, EVER POSTED THE SOURCE OF YOUR UNIX STATISTICS!!
And Yusuf now proves himself to be a liar or an inept fool.
Jerry
>
> : Scott Nudds wrote:
> : > The lesson is that Unix religionists - like all polluted individuals,
> : > will resort to any action - fabricating messages - lying - deceit -
> : > misquoting - denialism - etc. to further their political goals. In this
> : > case, the advancement of Linux.
> : >
> : > I on the other hand, prefer honesty.
>
> Yusuf Motara (ss...@hippo.ru.ac.za) wrote:
> : So you're against marketing, Nudds? Because that's what it seems like.
>
> Yusuf Motara seems to think that - Fabricating messages - lying - deceit
> - misquoting - denialism - etc. is what marketing is all about.
This sounds like you Nudds - missed out the pig-ignorant though...
No Nudds - he is trying to tell you that YOU are the lying fool - as
have many people over the last few months/years - but true to style you
continue to lie and deceive - you sad git....