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Harry Hope

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Jan 2, 2010, 3:20:42 PM1/2/10
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Sat Jan 02, 2010

Antarctica is melting


What a Happy New Year we are in for.

Toward the end of the last millenia, in the nineteen nineties, sea
level rise by the end of the century was estimated to be a matter of
some inches.

Here we are twenty years later its 2010 and we are now talking a
matter of some meters.

The worst projections of the scenarios of the last IPCC report are now
no longer projections and scientists are talking about the suprising
acceleration at which temperature is rising and the ice is melting.

Both poles are warming much faster than the average global warming so
that while we sit here complaining about the cold where we live now
what we ought to be doing is enjoying it while it lasts.

Once water no longer exists in its solid crysililine state there is
going to be a lot of other stuff that no longer exists, probably
including us.


Around the Antarctic Peninsula, where regional warming has been on a
record-setting pace, sea ice has declined significantly.

Work by U.S. Antarctic Program scientists in the region has found that
the increase is about 6.5 degrees Celsiusin the winter since the
1950s, http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=33092 rising more
than five times faster than the global average.

The life cycle of winter sea ice, on average, has dropped by three
months per year, meaning it forms later and melts earlier.

Year-round sea ice has virtually disappeared.


As the time until the end of the century has diminished, and the rate
at which change is observed has increased, some scientists are
beginning to factor in exponential as opposed to linear scenarios
where the rate of change changes at increasing rates.


In the Southern Hemisphere, Antarctica, too, is showing signs of a
warming climate.

Annual ice mass loss for the entire continent more than doubled
between the periods 2002�06 and 2006�09.
http://www.evwind.es/noticias.php?id_not=3037

In March 2009, a 400-square-kilometer piece of ice broke off of the
Wilkins ice shelf, the tenth ice shelf collapse on the Antarctic
Peninsula in recent times.

The most notable break-up was that of the Larsen B ice shelf in 2002,
which covered some 3,000 square kilometers, roughly the size of Rhode
Island.

The West Antarctic ice sheet (WAIS) lost 59 percent more ice in 2006
than it did in 1996.

A fast-flowing drainage glacier of WAIS, the Pine Island glacier,
experienced a quadrupling in its average rate of volume loss between
1995 and 2006.

Previously well-established as stable or even gaining mass, the East
Antarctic ice sheet may in fact be shrinking.

A late 2009 Nature Geoscience study points toward a net melting of the
ice sheet since 2006.

This new discovery adds to the ever-growing fears of ice sheet
collapse and sea level rise.

With increased melting, scientists say sea level could rise as much as
2 meters by the end of this century.


I mention this just to refresh your memory since you surely are aware
of this by now.

What very few researchers seem to be focusing on is the geophysical
effect of losing all that ice.

As isostatic rebound occurs volcanoes and earthquakes are on the
increase from Alaska to the Phillipines and most spectacularly at
Yellowstone. http://www.solcomhouse.com/yellowstone.htm

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Harry

VFW

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Jan 2, 2010, 3:47:22 PM1/2/10
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In article <30avj5lisajr960e4...@4ax.com>,
Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

But, the humans may have caused this warming , but as Karma goes..
the humans are creating their own extinction.
but, don't worry, the Earth will spin on and other life forms will rise
and fall , as they have always done.
buh, bye!
--
Hint; Enjoy the moment !

7

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Jan 2, 2010, 3:50:35 PM1/2/10
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Harry Hope wrote:

>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/2/821303/-Antarctica-is-melting
>
> Sat Jan 02, 2010
>
> Antarctica is melting


Of course it is - fake AGW science was smelting polar bears a week ago!

And now *this*.

What will AGW fake science think of next?

Hopefully it will some day prove my ice cream melted because
I sucked on it for too long.

Holowarming is a hoax
---------------------

It has moved into pseudo science arrived at by faking data,
sneaking into peer review process, getting opposition sacked
from their jobs by ringing up their owners and the like.

Its become a means to an end.

Its a bad hoax at that. Its responsible for all
kind of unnecessary taxes and changes to the way
we live without any scientific or material proof.
Holowarming funding needs to be cut.
The holowarming crap needs to curtailed.


99% of all greenhouse gases is water vapor H20.
It is the billions of liters of water in the form
of clouds in the sky. Two thirds of the planet is water
and thats why there is so much of it about.

The 0.05% of CO2 and other trace gases
DO NOT contribute to global warming AND CAN NEVER EVER
become a major factor to global warming.
They don't have the heat capacity unlike H2O gas
to carry heat around the globe.
The holowarmers faking their science DO NOT integrate their results over
a 24 hour period - instead some fruit cakes science is used
calculating between 12:00 noon and 12:01 to get an answer
and deliberately avoid discussion on finer points of the erroneous methods.


A desert cools at the rate of 1 degree every 10 minutes
in the night when there no water vapor (i.e. cloud cover) around, despite
all the trace gases being the same because nearly all of the heat
around the planet is carried by water vapor.

Anyone claiming otherwise is a steaming lying holowarming
crap artist in need of some urgent education.


http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0707/0707.1161v4.pdf


1-20-2013

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Jan 2, 2010, 4:34:43 PM1/2/10
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Harry Hope wrote:
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/2/821303/-Antarctica-is-melting
>
> Sat Jan 02, 2010
>
> Antarctica is melting

Wish the snow in my neighborhood would melt ;^D

It's been snowing since Thursday here with no end in sight. This
*climate* sure is bring some mighty cold and snowy *weather* to almost
the entire northern hemisphere.

Any chance Al Gore can fly his carbon-spewing private jet around the
northeast for a few hours to warm things up a bit? ROTGDFLMMFAO!!!! ;^D

Monkey Clumps

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Jan 2, 2010, 4:55:44 PM1/2/10
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On Jan 2, 3:20 pm, Harry Hoax <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/2/821303/-Antarctica-is-melting
>
> Sat Jan 02, 2010
>
> Antarctica is melting
>
> What a Happy New Year we are in for.
>
> Toward the end of the last millenia, in the nineteen nineties, sea
> level rise by the end of the century was estimated to be a matter of
> some inches.
>
> Here we are twenty years later its 2010 and we are now talking a
> matter of some meters.

Its still all talk.


>
> The worst projections of the scenarios of the last IPCC report are now
> no longer projections

They certainly aren't fact. If they are no longer projections, that
must mean the scare is over.

> and scientists are talking about the suprising
> acceleration at which temperature is rising and the ice is melting.
>
> Both poles are warming much faster than the average global warming so
> that while we sit here complaining about the cold where we live now
> what we ought to be doing is enjoying it while it lasts.
>
> Once water no longer exists in its solid crysililine state there is
> going to be a lot of other stuff that no longer exists, probably
> including us.

No more ice on the planet? How many 10s of thousands would it take
for that to happen? This article is a complete joke.

<SNIP> remaining bullshit


I M @ good guy

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:56:03 PM1/2/10
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Didn't you know, he was visiting, that is why
you are having so many AGW white feathers on
the ground.

Maybe by the middle of the month the
off shore wind will end.


George

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Jan 2, 2010, 6:55:58 PM1/2/10
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On Jan 3, 9:20 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Antarctica is melting

It's summer.
In the winter its going to freeze.

Peter Franks

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Jan 2, 2010, 7:50:15 PM1/2/10
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> between the periods 2002�06 and 2006�09.

Can you give me a history of the points you bring up for the past
1000-2000 years? Let's discuss then.

50 years of data is insignificant and not suitable to base a conclusion on.

richp

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:44:21 AM1/3/10
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You are the fucking fake you lying asshole right winger

Ret.

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:07:00 AM1/3/10
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Harry Hope wrote:
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/2/821303/-Antarctica-is-melting
>
> Sat Jan 02, 2010
>
> Antarctica is melting

The ice-caps have been expanding and contracting in size since time began -
and they will continue to do so.

Kev

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Bret Cahill

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:33:01 AM1/4/10
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> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/2/821303/-Antarctica-is-melting
>
> Sat Jan 02, 2010
>
> Antarctica is melting
>
> What a Happy New Year we are in for.
>
> Toward the end of the last millenia, in the nineteen nineties, sea
> level rise by the end of the century was estimated to be a matter of
> some inches.
>
> Here we are twenty years later its 2010 and we are now talking a
> matter of some meters.
>
> The worst projections of the scenarios of the last IPCC report are now
> no longer projections and scientists are talking about the suprising
> acceleration at which temperature is rising and the ice is melting.
>
> Both poles are warming much faster than the average global warming so
> that while we sit here complaining about the cold where we live now
> what we ought to be doing is enjoying it while it lasts.
>
> Once water no longer exists in its solid crysililine state there is
> going to be a lot of other stuff that no longer exists, probably
> including us.
>
> Around the Antarctic Peninsula, where regional warming has been on a
> record-setting pace, sea ice has declined significantly.
>
> Work by U.S. Antarctic Program scientists in the region has found that
> the increase is about 6.5 degrees Celsiusin the winter since the
> 1950s,http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=33092rising more

> than five times faster than the global average.
>
> The life cycle of winter sea ice, on average, has dropped by three
> months per year, meaning it forms later and melts earlier.
>
> Year-round sea ice has virtually disappeared.
>
> As the time until the end of the century has diminished, and the rate
> at which change is observed has increased, some scientists are
> beginning to factor in exponential as opposed to linear scenarios
> where the rate of change changes at increasing rates.
>
> In the Southern Hemisphere, Antarctica, too, is showing signs of a
> warming climate.
>
> Annual ice mass loss for the entire continent more than doubled
> between the periods 2002–06 and 2006–09.http://www.evwind.es/noticias.php?id_not=3037

M Purcell

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:59:46 AM1/4/10
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I was wondering what they were going to call Glacier National Park
when all the glaciers in the area melted and I knew Yellowstone is
very active but I hadn't thought of the increased likelyhood of it
blowing up.

Fred Weiss

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:13:35 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 12:33 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> >http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/2/821303/-Antarctica-is-melting
>
> > Sat Jan 02, 2010
>
> > Antarctica is melting

...and the sky is falling.

"Ice core drilling in the fast ice off Australia’s Davis Station in
East Antarctica by the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Co-Operative
Research Centre shows that last year, the ice had a maximum thickness
of 1.89m, its densest in 10 years. The average thickness of the ice at
Davis since the 1950s is 1.67m.

A paper to be published soon by the British Antarctic Survey in the
journal Geophysical Research Letters is expected to confirm that over
the past 30 years, the area of sea ice around the continent has
expanded."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-not-shrinking/

> > What a Happy New Year we are in for.

The only thing that will melt this year is the Democrat congressional
majority.

They are already running away from the inevitable.

"Dem recruits continue to head for exits"

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/74007-dem-recruits-continue-to-head-for-the-exits

Remember 1994!

Fred Weiss

Michael Gordge

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:20:40 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 3:13 pm, Fred Weiss <fredwe...@papertig.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 12:33 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/2/821303/-Antarctica-is-melting
>
> > > Sat Jan 02, 2010
>
> > > Antarctica is melting
>
> ...and the sky is falling.
>
> "Ice core drilling in the fast ice off Australia’s Davis Station in
> East Antarctica by the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Co-Operative
> Research Centre shows that last year, the ice had a maximum thickness
> of 1.89m, its densest in 10 years. The average thickness of the ice at
> Davis since the 1950s is 1.67m.
>
> A paper to be published soon by the British Antarctic Survey in the
> journal Geophysical Research Letters is expected to confirm that over
> the past 30 years, the area of sea ice around the continent has
> expanded."
>
> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-...

>
> > > What a Happy New Year we are in for.
>
> The only thing that will melt this year is the Democrat congressional
> majority.
>
> They are already running away from the inevitable.
>
> "Dem recruits continue to head for exits"
>
> http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/74007-dem-recruits-c...
>
> Remember 1994!
>
> Fred Weiss

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html

I M @ good guy

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:08:18 AM1/4/10
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Journalism is at it's worse, apparently they can't
find much news, so they sit at their desk and search
the web for something to write about, even if it is
1000 year future telling;

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509834,00.html


This is as bad as woger's trend predictions,
sea currents can change, and change back, just
like a predicted "mild" winter can leave a lot of
people with snow up to their hips.

News should be what has happened, and
the future telling left up to the palm readers.


Peter Franks

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Jan 6, 2010, 5:20:15 PM1/6/10
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