Fake Hawaii CO2 readings

[7]

Sam Wormley wrote:

> Mean Methane Levels reach 1800 ppb
>> http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2013/06/mean-methane-levels-reach-1800-
ppb.html
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg
>
>
>> On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>> atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii,

But isn't Hawaii a set of active volcanic mountains releasing tons
of CO2 daily?????????????????????

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

Only dick headed Predictive Climate Change Religion Glow Ball Warmies would
go anywhere near that area to take CO2 measurements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Did anyone take CO2 measurements 20 miles from the coast UPWIND!!!!!!!!!


>> surpassed 400 parts per million
>> (ppm) for the first time since measurements began in 1958. This is
>> 120 ppm higher than pre-industrial peak levels. This unfortunate
>> milestone was widely reported in the media.
>>
>> Now another milestone has been reached that looks even more
>> threatening than the above one. On the morning of June 16, 2013,
>> methane levels reached an average mean of 1800 parts per billion
>> (ppb).

WHERE???????????

Downwind of a pig farm?

Did anyone fart during the taking of measurements?

These days it is impossible to trust Predictive Climate
Change Religion Glow Ball Warmies. They ALWAYS have something
to hide.

Starting with taking of CO2 readings around volcanoes
to farting into their methane meters.

All for what?

More money.


>> This is 1100 ppb higher than pre-industrial peak levels.
>>
>> Vostok ice core analysis shows that temperatures and levels of carbon
>> dioxide and methane have all moved within narrow bands while
>> remaining in sync with each other over the past 400,000 years. Carbon
>> dioxide moved within a band with lower and upper boundaries of
>> respectively 200 and 280 ppm. Methane moved within lower and upper
>> boundaries of respectively 400 and 800 ppb.
>
>> Temperatures moved within lower and upper boundaries of respectively
>> -8 and 2 degrees Celsius.
>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg

[benj]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:36:40 +0100, 7 wrote:

>>> On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>>> atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii,
>
> But isn't Hawaii a set of active volcanic mountains releasing tons of
> CO2 daily?????????????????????
>
> BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
>
> Only dick headed Predictive Climate Change Religion Glow Ball Warmies
> would go anywhere near that area to take CO2
> measurements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously you are not a believer. A volcano is the PERFECT spot to
measure global warming CO2. 97% of all scientists agree. Usually non-
believers like you are thrown INTO the volcano.

[Surfer]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:36:40 +0100, 7

<email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:

>Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> Mean Methane Levels reach 1800 ppb
>>> http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2013/06/mean-methane-levels-reach-1800-
>ppb.html
>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
>wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg
>>
>>
>>> On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>>> atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii,
>
>But isn't Hawaii a set of active volcanic mountains releasing tons
>of CO2 daily?????????????????????
>

Only when they erupt.
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maunaloa/

"......Most Recent Eruption March 24-April 15, 1984...."

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Surfer wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:36:40 +0100, 7
> <email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>
>>Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>> Mean Methane Levels reach 1800 ppb
>>>> http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2013/06/mean-methane-levels-reach-1800-
>>ppb.html
>>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
>>wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>>>> atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii,
>>
>>But isn't Hawaii a set of active volcanic mountains releasing tons
>>of CO2 daily?????????????????????
>>
>
> Only when they erupt.
> http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maunaloa/
>
> "......Most Recent Eruption March 24-April 15, 1984...."

No you utter cretin and utter utter fool!

All volcanoes vent gas all the time unless they been totally sealed and
buried for eons.

[7]

Strapped to a stylish CO2 meter I hope!
I like to pose before jumping into any adversity.
I don't want to get all hot and bothered and jump
into any old CO2 rich volcano without returning some important data.

[7]

Brad Guth wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:54:30 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Mean Methane Levels reach 1800 ppb
>>
>> > http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2013/06/mean-methane-levels-reach-1800-
ppb.html
>>
>> > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>> > On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>>

>> > atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii, surpassed 400 parts per million

>>
>> > (ppm) for the first time since measurements began in 1958. This is
>>
>> > 120 ppm higher than pre-industrial peak levels. This unfortunate
>>
>> > milestone was widely reported in the media.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Now another milestone has been reached that looks even more
>>
>> > threatening than the above one. On the morning of June 16, 2013,
>>
>> > methane levels reached an average mean of 1800 parts per billion
>>

>> > (ppb). This is 1100 ppb higher than pre-industrial peak levels.

>>
>>
>>
>> > Vostok ice core analysis shows that temperatures and levels of carbon
>>
>> > dioxide and methane have all moved within narrow bands while
>>
>> > remaining in sync with each other over the past 400,000 years. Carbon
>>
>> > dioxide moved within a band with lower and upper boundaries of
>>
>> > respectively 200 and 280 ppm. Methane moved within lower and upper
>>
>> > boundaries of respectively 400 and 800 ppb.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Temperatures moved within lower and upper boundaries of respectively
>>
>> > -8 and 2 degrees Celsius.
>>
>>
>>
>> > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg
>

> Obviously they and you care less about the ongoing loss of helium, not to
> mention the increasing amounts of hydrocarbons getting vented and/or
> released from blowouts, spillage and or via dysfunctional refineries.
> Coal actually gives off a great deal of methane,


Since when?

The largest methane contributor on the planet is termites.

Neary everything you see as vegetation this summer is squirreled
away and eaten and turned into methane as well as nutrients for next
summer's plants.

Demonising life giving CO2 fo 0.04% hasn't worked, so now
the climate trolls are turning to demonising methane without
really understanding that the entire ecosystem is kept alive by
termites and their contribution to the ecosystem.

Not so long ago, glow ball warmies wanted to kill termites.

Who knows, if they demonise methane by ranting spewing hard for decades
they might be able to knock a turmite mound down before the public
turn on them and their fake science.


> and there's no
> indications of any reduction in coal exploitation by those of your greedy
> generation.
>
> So, what exactly are you and other blind astronomy and physics wizards
> ever going to do about it? (besides systematically trashing William Mook
> and anyone else with honest alternatives)

[T. Keating]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:07:42 +0930, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:36:40 +0100, 7
><email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>
>>Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>> Mean Methane Levels reach 1800 ppb
>>>> http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2013/06/mean-methane-levels-reach-1800-
>>ppb.html
>>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
>>wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>>>> atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii,
>>
>>But isn't Hawaii a set of active volcanic mountains releasing tons
>>of CO2 daily?????????????????????
>>
>
>Only when they erupt.
>http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maunaloa/
>
>"......Most Recent Eruption March 24-April 15, 1984...."

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Measuring-CO2-levels-from-the-volcano-at-Mauna-Loa.html

Why Mauna Loa? Early attempts to measure CO2 in the USA and Scandinavia found that the
readings varied a lot due to the influence of growing plants and the exhaust from motors.
Mauna Loa is ideal because it is so remote from big population centres. Also, on tropical
islands at night, the prevailing winds blow from the land out to sea, which effect brings
clean, well-mixed Central Pacific air from high in the atmosphere to the observatory. This
removes any interference coming from the vegetation lower down on the island.

But how about gas from the volcano? It is true that volcanoes blow out CO2 from time to
time and that this can interfere with the readings. Most of the time, though, the
prevailing winds blow the volcanic gasses away from the observatory. But when the winds do
sometimes blow from active vents towards the observatory, the influence from the volcano
is obvious on the normally consistent records and any dubious readings can be easily
spotted and edited out (Ryan, 1995).



...
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/insitu.html

The Carbon Cycle-Greenhouse Gases conducts research to understand the global carbon cycle
and its effects on climate. At CCGG measurements are made to determine baseline levels,
trends and causes of variability of several atmospheric gases (carbon dioxide, methane and
carbon monoxide), that have the potential to affect global climate.

To obtain detailed understanding of the short term as well as long term variations of the
greenhouse gases, CCGG makes on-site measurements at the four NOAA/ESRL/GMD baseline
observatories, which are far from any pollution sources affecting the gases of interest.

Barrow, Alaska
Mauna Loa, Hawaii
American Samoa
South Pole, Antarctica

[benj]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:46:34 -0400, T. Keating wrote:

> http://www.skepticalscience.com/Measuring-CO2-levels-from-the-volcano-

at-Mauna-Loa.html
>
> Why Mauna Loa? Early attempts to measure CO2 in the USA and Scandinavia
> found that the readings varied a lot due to the influence of growing
> plants and the exhaust from motors. Mauna Loa is ideal because it is so
> remote from big population centres. Also, on tropical islands at night,
> the prevailing winds blow from the land out to sea, which effect brings
> clean, well-mixed Central Pacific air from high in the atmosphere to the
> observatory. This removes any interference coming from the vegetation
> lower down on the island.
>
> But how about gas from the volcano? It is true that volcanoes blow out
> CO2 from time to time and that this can interfere with the readings.
> Most of the time, though, the prevailing winds blow the volcanic gasses
> away from the observatory. But when the winds do sometimes blow from
> active vents towards the observatory, the influence from the volcano is
> obvious on the normally consistent records and any dubious readings can
> be easily spotted and edited out (Ryan, 1995).

Yeah I wonder what paid propaganda science says?

What could go wrong with measuring CO2 on a volcano? It's great because
it's away from all vehicles and urban centers. Great luck that there are
no cities or autos in Hawaii to contaminate the readings as might happen
in other places like antarctic or Moose Jaw. And just like the Skeptical
Science website there is a big wind of hot air every day that blows out
of it.

And anyway, what if there is CO2 from the volcano? Obviously this
increased CO2 will be quickly noticed by climate scientists who having no
agenda when it comes to "climate change" will quickly report the
anomalies just as they did with the statistical variations that led to an
apparent "hockey stick" of warming which as we all know was quickly
corrected some 17 years later when exactly NONE of the dire predictions
even came close to occurring.

Bottom line: If you can't trust "climate scientists" and 97% of all
science academies and governments to tell the truth about CO2 levels,
Hey, who can you trust? Certainly not history revisionists who deny the
holocaust!

[7]

T. Keating wrote:

>>>> Mean Methane Levels reach 1800 ppb
>>>>> http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2013/06/mean-methane-levels-reach-1800-
>>>ppb.html
>>>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-
>>>wEcsyx1HXMY/UcAuqW9LCjI/AAAAAAAAKEs/lZ5W7KaBGDQ/s1600/83547568637.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 9, the daily mean concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>>>>> atmosphere of Mauna Loa, Hawaii,
>>>
>>>But isn't Hawaii a set of active volcanic mountains releasing tons
>>>of CO2 daily?????????????????????
>>>
>>
>>Only when they erupt.
>>http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maunaloa/
>>
>>"......Most Recent Eruption March 24-April 15, 1984...."
>
> http://www.skepticalscience.com/Measuring-CO2-levels-from-the-volcano-at-Mauna-Loa.html
>
> Why Mauna Loa? Early attempts to measure CO2 in the USA and Scandinavia
> found that the readings varied a lot due to the influence of growing
> plants and the exhaust from motors. Mauna Loa is ideal because it is so
> remote from big population centres. Also, on tropical islands at night,
> the prevailing winds blow from the land out to sea, which effect brings
> clean, well-mixed Central Pacific air from high in the atmosphere to the
> observatory. This removes any interference coming from the vegetation
> lower down on the island.

No chance at all.
The air is going back and forth and up and down.
You can NEVER be sure where it came from.

> But how about gas from the volcano? It is true that volcanoes blow out CO2
> from time to time and that this can interfere with the readings. Most of
> the time, though, the prevailing winds blow the volcanic gasses away from
> the observatory.

No chance at all.

CO2 erupts from everywhere through tiny fissures.
CO2 is a heavy gas and clings to the ground.
If it went out to sea, and came back in, it will
still be clinging to the ground without dispersing.
You can pour CO2 into a bucket and still find
it hasn't gone anywhere for hours on end.
In light wind, it can concentrate itself in depressions.
Then a stronger wind can push it out and roll it
to CO2 meters giving absolutely over the top readings
without there being any truth behind the readings.

They should take a boat out to sea where the winds are not changing
directions between night and day, and there are no seabed or
active volcanoes for kilometers downwards.

Then we can know.

> But when the winds do sometimes blow from active vents
> towards the observatory, the influence from the volcano is obvious on the
> normally consistent records and any dubious readings can be easily spotted
> and edited out (Ryan, 1995).

Given the utter captains of crap glow ball warmies have shown
themselves to be over EVERY SINGLE ISSUE, and the myriads
of retractions, falsifications and plain crap science,
I do not trust a single glow ball warmie captain of crap.

If you want to fix something, go and fix these fake diagrams first!

Life giving 0.04% CO2 in the atmosphere
has been demonized to the point that trolls free fall
with lies and unforgivable pseudo science crap:

Examples:
http://marinebio.org/oceans/conservation/global-warming.asp

The diagram of heat reflection on a sphere is fake diagram.
The actual gas gas angle of internal reflection is greater
than 89 degrees from the normal and not the 45 degree physcically
impossible and fraudulent diagrams being shown there.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/A-New-Explanation-of-Global-Warming-19650.shtml
http://news.softpedia.com/news/A-New-Explanation-of-Global-Warming-19650.shtml/this_reflection_diagram_is_fake_mis-information-the_angle_of_reflection_is_89_degrees_from_normal
Again fake diagram


Another fake diagram:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/global-warming2.htm
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/global-warming2.htm/this_reflection_diagram_is_fake_mis-information-the_angle_of_reflection_is_89_degrees_from_normal

Another fake diagram:
http://www.truthmove.org/content/global-warming/

And another fake diagram
http://library.thinkquest.org/06aug/01529/
http://library.thinkquest.org/06aug/01529/this_reflection_diagram_is_fake_mis-information-the_angle_of_reflection_is_89_degrees_from_normal

Yet another fake diagram by the EPA:
http://www.epa.gov/airtrends/aqtrnd95/globwarm.html
http://www.epa.gov/airtrends/aqtrnd95/globwarm.html/this_reflection_diagram_is_fake_mis-information-the_angle_of_reflection_is_89_degrees_from_normal

[elir...@gmail.com]

On Friday, June 21, 2013 12:55:23 AM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:46:34 -0400, T. Keating wrote:

It's actually quite easy, they just monitor the direction the wind is blowing in. Volcanic CO2 at MLO is well characterized. Most days it does not even contribute 1 ppm at the times when it is flowing downslope (the times which are excluded). This is dealt with in a 2001 article by Steve Ryan Ryan, S. (2001), Estimating volcanic CO2 emission rates from atmospheric measurements on the slope of Mauna Loa, /Chem. Geol., 177/, 201-211 and Quiescent Outgassing of Mauna Loa Volcano 1958-1994. The background emission from the Mauna Loa has been studied, and even during an eruption the extra amount of CO2 at the Observatory is not large

http://rabett.blogspot.com/2009/10/rabett-goes-romm-ian-plimer-has-written.html