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jma...@lavinia.tc

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Apr 20, 2007, 7:28:33 PM4/20/07
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please

description conector D-sub 25 intercom/tally/pgm SONY CCU TX-50

Pin nº 1 ?
Pin nº 2 ?
etc....

Tadeusz Krzeminski

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Apr 21, 2007, 9:08:21 AM4/21/07
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On 21-04-07 1:28, in article
1177111713....@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, "jma...@lavinia.tc"
<jma...@lavinia.tc> wrote:

> please
>
> description conector D-sub 25 intercom/tally/pgm SONY CCU TX-50

I've just sent you relevant JPG picture.

If someone more would be interested in it, I'll try find some time to retype
it ;-)

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Pozdrawiam / Best regards

Tadeusz Krzemiński

Tadeusz Krzeminski

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Apr 29, 2007, 8:11:15 AM4/29/07
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On 21-04-07 15:08, in article C24FD965.1E5D2%krze...@onet.pl, "Tadeusz
Krzeminski" <krze...@onet.pl> wrote:

[cut]


> If someone more would be interested in it, I'll try find some time to retype
> it ;-)

I've received feedback from several fellows asking me for that. So, here it
is as promised:

INTERCOM/TALLY/PGM (D-Sub 25P, FEMALE)


No. Signal Specifications
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 ENG (R) (X) OUT ENG SYSTEM RECEIVE
-------------------------------
2 ENG (R) (Y) OUT 0 dBu BALANCED
------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 ENG (G) GND for ENG
------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 ENG (T) (X) IN ENG SYSTEM TALK
-------------------------------
5 ENG (T) (Y) IN 0 dBu BALANCED
------------------------------------------------------------------------
6 PGM (X) IN -20dBu/0dBu
-------------------------------
7 PGM (Y) IN (Selectable with
-------------------------------
8 PGM (G) IN S451/AU board)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
9 GND GND for AUX
------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 AUX8
------------------------------------------------------------------------
11 R TALLY (X) IN ON: 24 V dc, TTL (H), SHORT
------------------------------------------------------------------------
12 R TALLY (Y) IN OFF: 0 V dc, TTL (L), OPEN
------------------------------------------------------------------------
13 GND CHASSIS GND
------------------------------------------------------------------------
14 PROD (R) (X) OUT PROD SYSTEM
-------------------------------
15 PROD (R) (Y) OUT RECEIVE 0 dBu BALANCED
------------------------------------------------------------------------
16 PROD (G) GND for PROD
------------------------------------------------------------------------
17 PROD (T) (X) IN PROD SYSTEM TALK
-------------------------------
18 PROD (T) (Y) IN 0 dBu BALANCED
------------------------------------------------------------------------
19 NC No connection
------------------------------------------------------------------------
20 NC No connection
------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 NC No connection
------------------------------------------------------------------------
22 AUX7
------------------------------------------------------------------------
23 AUX6
------------------------------------------------------------------------
24 G TALLY (X) IN ON: 24 V dc, TTL (H), SHORT
------------------------------------------------------------------------
25 G TALLY (Y) IN OFF: 0 V dc, TTL (L), OPEN
------------------------------------------------------------------------


(0 dBu = 0.775 Vrms)

bch...@strongcommunications.com

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May 22, 2007, 8:35:03 AM5/22/07
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On Apr 21, 9:08 am, Tadeusz Krzeminski <krzem...@onet.pl> wrote:
> On 21-04-07 1:28, in article
> 1177111713.790267.5...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, "jma...@lavinia.tc"

>
> <jma...@lavinia.tc> wrote:
> > please
>
> > description conector D-sub 25 intercom/tally/pgmSONYCCUTX-50
>
> I've just sent you relevant JPG picture.
>
> If someone more would be interested in it, I'll try find some time to retype
> it ;-)
>
> --
>
> Pozdrawiam / Best regards
>
> Tadeusz Krzemiñski

I am looking for the D-sub 25 intercom/tally pin configuration for the
ccu-tx50. Any ideas where I can get this info?
If I could find the service manual, that would be great too.

Thanks,
Brian, aka Viddkid29

Tadeusz Krzeminski

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May 22, 2007, 5:58:28 PM5/22/07
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On 22-05-07 14:35, in article
1179837302.5...@x18g2000prd.googlegroups.com,
"bch...@strongcommunications.com" <bch...@strongcommunications.com> wrote:

> I am looking for the D-sub 25 intercom/tally pin configuration for the
> ccu-tx50. Any ideas where I can get this info?

One post above.

http://groups.google.pl/group/sci.engr.television.advanced/browse_frm/thread
/3ed39546a508de5/cbd5b12c0edfb147

> If I could find the service manual, that would be great too.

I think you can download it after registration at http://www.sonybiz.net/
But I might be wrong.

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Tadeusz Krzemiński

bch...@strongcommunications.com

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May 23, 2007, 8:45:55 AM5/23/07
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On May 22, 5:58 pm, Tadeusz Krzeminski <krzem...@onet.pl> wrote:
> On 22-05-07 14:35, in article
> 1179837302.595894.326...@x18g2000prd.googlegroups.com,

>
> "bcha...@strongcommunications.com" <bcha...@strongcommunications.com> wrote:
> > I am looking for the D-sub 25 intercom/tally pin configuration for the
> > ccu-tx50. Any ideas where I can get this info?
>
> One post above.
>
> http://groups.google.pl/group/sci.engr.television.advanced/browse_frm...

>
> > If I could find the service manual, that would be great too.
>
> I think you can download it after registration athttp://www.sonybiz.net/

> But I might be wrong.
>
> --
>
> Pozdrawiam / Best regards
>
> Tadeusz Krzemiñski


After doing lots of research yesterday, I found the Sony Broadcast
Operations Support Center.
They were very helpful in faxing pin configs and other pertinent info.
If your interested, their number is: 1-800-883-6817.
They faxed me about 20 pages from the CCU-TX50 service manual.
I am still waiting for a call back from the tech re tiing all camera
intercom together as well as tiing the intercom in with a channel of
Clearcom linking video world with production via a 2 channel Clearcom
base station.
My engineer did it for me in Vegas with a TX7, but that was about 9
years ago, and I forgot how we did it.
Any ideas?

Brian, aka viddkid29

Tadeusz Krzeminski

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May 23, 2007, 9:28:32 AM5/23/07
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On 23-05-07 14:45, in article
1179924355....@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
"bch...@strongcommunications.com" <bch...@strongcommunications.com> wrote:

> After doing lots of research yesterday, I found the Sony Broadcast
> Operations Support Center.

[cut]

That's very kind of them.

> I am still waiting for a call back from the tech re tiing all camera
> intercom together as well as tiing the intercom in with a channel of
> Clearcom linking video world with production via a 2 channel Clearcom
> base station.

I'm sorry but I can't understand what you want to do. First of all, did you
mean using ClearCom / Telex / RTS wireless base station (trademark's
different, idea's the same)? Is any intercom matrix involved? How many
cameras in there? Two-way intercom or without talkback? Are there any
separated channels?

Can you put more light here? I might find some quick solution.

--

Pozdrawiam / Best regards

Tadeusz Krzemiński

bch...@strongcommunications.com

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May 23, 2007, 10:13:11 AM5/23/07
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On May 23, 9:28 am, Tadeusz Krzeminski <krzem...@onet.pl> wrote:
> On 23-05-07 14:45, in article
> 1179924355.617368.51...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,

>
> "bcha...@strongcommunications.com" <bcha...@strongcommunications.com> wrote:
> > After doing lots of research yesterday, I found theSonyBroadcast
> > Operations Support Center.
>
> [cut]
>
> That's very kind of them.
>
> > I am still waiting for a call back from the tech re tiing all camera
> > intercom together as well as tiing the intercom in with a channel of
> > Clearcom linking video world with production via a 2 channel Clearcom
> > base station.
>
> I'm sorry but I can't understand what you want to do. First of all, did you
> mean using ClearCom / Telex / RTS wireless base station (trademark's
> different, idea's the same)? Is any intercom matrix involved? How many
> cameras in there? Two-way intercom or without talkback? Are there any
> separated channels?
>
> Can you put more light here? I might find some quick solution.
>
> --
>
> Pozdrawiam / Best regards
>
> Tadeusz Krzemiñski

Tadeusz,

I have 3 cameras, and I want the ability to tie all together, ie.
partyline.
once we have all 3 cameras tied together with 2 way communication, I
want to be able toput that channel of communication into a 2 channel
Clearcom (brand name) main station.
This will result in have 1 channel of communication from Video TD and
Camera Operators, and 1 channel of
communication from Video TD with lighting, sound, and the rest of
production for shows. I can then also
combine both channels for full communications to all. (A + B channel
link mode).
I hope this paints a clearer picture for you,

Cheers,

Brian, aka Viddkid29

bch...@strongcommunications.com

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May 23, 2007, 10:13:30 AM5/23/07
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On May 23, 9:28 am, Tadeusz Krzeminski <krzem...@onet.pl> wrote:
> On 23-05-07 14:45, in article
> 1179924355.617368.51...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,

>
> "bcha...@strongcommunications.com" <bcha...@strongcommunications.com> wrote:
> > After doing lots of research yesterday, I found theSonyBroadcast
> > Operations Support Center.
>
> [cut]
>
> That's very kind of them.
>
> > I am still waiting for a call back from the tech re tiing all camera
> > intercom together as well as tiing the intercom in with a channel of
> > Clearcom linking video world with production via a 2 channel Clearcom
> > base station.
>
> I'm sorry but I can't understand what you want to do. First of all, did you
> mean using ClearCom / Telex / RTS wireless base station (trademark's
> different, idea's the same)? Is any intercom matrix involved? How many
> cameras in there? Two-way intercom or without talkback? Are there any
> separated channels?
>
> Can you put more light here? I might find some quick solution.
>
> --
>
> Pozdrawiam / Best regards
>

bch...@strongcommunications.com

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May 23, 2007, 10:14:35 AM5/23/07
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On May 23, 9:28 am, Tadeusz Krzeminski <krzem...@onet.pl> wrote:
> On 23-05-07 14:45, in article
> 1179924355.617368.51...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,

>
> "bcha...@strongcommunications.com" <bcha...@strongcommunications.com> wrote:
> > After doing lots of research yesterday, I found theSonyBroadcast
> > Operations Support Center.
>
> [cut]
>
> That's very kind of them.
>
> > I am still waiting for a call back from the tech re tiing all camera
> > intercom together as well as tiing the intercom in with a channel of
> > Clearcom linking video world with production via a 2 channel Clearcom
> > base station.
>
> I'm sorry but I can't understand what you want to do. First of all, did you
> mean using ClearCom / Telex / RTS wireless base station (trademark's
> different, idea's the same)? Is any intercom matrix involved? How many
> cameras in there? Two-way intercom or without talkback? Are there any
> separated channels?
>
> Can you put more light here? I might find some quick solution.
>
> --
>
> Pozdrawiam / Best regards
>

Tadeusz Krzeminski

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May 27, 2007, 8:00:30 AM5/27/07
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On 23-05-07 16:14, in article
1179929675....@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"bch...@strongcommunications.com" <bch...@strongcommunications.com> wrote:

> I have 3 cameras, and I want the ability to tie all together, ie.
> partyline.
> once we have all 3 cameras tied together with 2 way communication, I
> want to be able toput that channel of communication into a 2 channel
> Clearcom (brand name) main station.

Do you mean intercom matrix (Matrix plus, Eclipse 32 etc.)

http://www.clearcom.com/Products/matrix/sysframe.html

or rather wireless base station

http://www.clearcom.com/Products/wireless/wireless_index.html

I assume first option.

> This will result in have 1 channel of communication from Video TD and
> Camera Operators, and 1 channel of
> communication from Video TD with lighting, sound, and the rest of
> production for shows. I can then also
> combine both channels for full communications to all. (A + B channel
> link mode).
> I hope this paints a clearer picture for you,

Unfortunately still not. Normally - first option assumed - it's done using
intercom panels (Vide TD, Lighting, Sound, Shaders etc.) and easily
configured using intercom managing software.

The only thing which needs to be done is to think about connecting cameras
with intercom matrix. It can be done either by:

A) connecting three CCUs separately to the intercom matrix ports and create
Special List, where you have an option to link them together and put under
one button. That's the ideal option.

B) connecting three CCUs with some kind of splitter (to split audio to
cameras) and combiner (to sum audio from cameras). You'd have to find some
'brick' devices, like: http://www.sonifex.co.uk/. Canford catalogue
(http://www.canford.co.uk/) might be useful as well. In general it's more
complicated but it works as well.

Another thing to consider is possibility to have another (engineering)
channel of communication for cameramen. It's up to you and your needs.

Please write what do you think about my guesses and we'll think what to do
next.

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Pozdrawiam / Best regards

Tadeusz Krzemiński

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