Withing 60 miles from my location (five acres in the country) I have
two major cities and many smaller sister cities. I am allowed to run
a business from my home and have a fairly well equipped workshop.
I have a lincoln stick welder and an oxy/acy setup. I do not have at
this time a plasma cutter but would consider getting one. I do have
all of the hand tools I could ever want and grinders, etc....
I am interested in cleaning, repairing and painting dumpsters,
including replacing the logo's required on dumpsters around here.
Does anyone have experience with this? Since I cannot find anyone in
this part of the country that does this, does it mean that maybe the
dumpster companies are doing it themselves? If they are, they are not
doing a very good job of it.
I am interested in getting some information before approaching the
dumpster companies with my concept.
If anyone can advise on feasibility/profitability I would appreciate
it. Also, any information on pricing for repair, cleaning and
painting would be appreciated. Should I pick up the smaller dumpsters
or have them delivered to my location?
I am a one man show so I have to make the best use of my time.
ANY help would be useful and appreciated.
If there is anyone that does this full time or run/works at a dumpster
company, I would really like to talk to you offline. Just reply to
oso_bob AT yahoo.com and I will reply to you with my "Hoping to never
get any SPAM here" e-mail address so we can discuss this. I will call
you as well if you want and are willing to share any information you
may have.
As with everything anyone tries to do, I have already had my share of
"Probably won't work" people and am looking for facts not
encouragement or discouragement. Therefore, I come to you people, the
people that share info but are not related to me in any way and are
willing to give HONEST feedback.
I have received good info here before and am hoping for the same
again.
Thanks,
Bob
Good Luck
Jim Vrzal
Holiday,FL.
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You may want to check with local zoning officials! You will be dealing
with paint (scraping, burning, applying) which may have special zoning
restrictions. You are also running an industrial business, this may
need special exceptions for this work to be done on your property.
Another thing you will have to deal with is the smell associated with
these dumpsters. I don't think I'd want this smell on my property.
Having a couple (2-6) will only make it worse.
I've got a friend that works for a large welding company, they do weld
up dumpsters, but not enough to make a go at only doing these. Dump
Truck repair is also something to look into. That's another thing my
buddy does on a regular basis.
Good Luck!
Jim Smith
--
Blaming the gun for murder, is like blaming the car for hit and run!
Consider the smell, and the possibility of things that are not supposed
to go into dumpsters (but do) dripping out of the dumpster-bottom ooze
and onto your land (toxic chemicals, etc).
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Cats, Coffee, Chocolate...vices to live by
Jerry,
You bring up topics I had not thought of and thet is why I posted here
BEFORE talking to any companies. I wanted to be sure what I was
getting into first. I am not really sure if there is any money to
make or not.
Basically I am trying to come up with a business I can do in my back
yard and in my shop that I can try to earn a living since I have been
laid off (6 months now). I have done some blacksmithing, making gates
and fences and I also built some carts for a nursery to cart plants
around on. In addition to that I make custome knives but none of
these and even all of them combined are earning enough.
I saw a dumpster that was damaged and leaking gunk and noticed it. I
drove around and almost every dumpster was beat up and looked terrible
and I thought that repairs might pay the bills.
I guess I will call a couple of the companies and pick their brains a
little and see what happens.
Thanks,
Bob
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:49:32 -0500, jerry rausch <raus...@pwrtc.com>
wrote:
>Bob,
>I worked for a manufacturer of these for several years and did a few
>repairs so I guess I qualify.
>First, KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE DUMPSTER! We made units that hauled toxic
>waste, biohazards and various chemicals. Not all hauled construction
>waste or household garbage. Though these smelled, they were not the
>worst to work around.
>Second, choose processes that can deal with nasty, dirty metals. SMAW
>comes most readily to mind but that is maybe just because it worked best
>for us.
>Third, before you know it, you will be asked to work on trucks and
>chassis. Either be prepared to qualify for DOT acceptable repairs or to
>say "NO". Insurance enters the picture in a big way here.
>Fourth, be prepared to do hydraulic plumbing. This also entails dealing
>with waste oil and lubes.
>There'll be more but these are some of the issues we routinely
>encountered.
>Having said all that, your idea has merit. Have you talked to any of
>the companies about possible interest in your service? Are there any
>tanker trailer cleaning services nearby? You might make a deal with
>them to do the cleaning before you bring the units to your place. They
>would also then deal with a lot of the regulatory issues so you don't
>need to.
>One thing that you might want to consider is how these units are going
>to come to you. Delivered by service? Picked up by you?
>This ought to give you something to chew on for a while.
>Good luck. Feel free to e-mail me but make sure the subject refers to
>this topic or I delete.
>
>Jerry
>
>Bob wrote:
>
>snipped
Bob wrote:
> Thanks,
> Bob
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give Ed,S Rolloff A call 401-737-1166 he repairs his own dumpsters
FWIW, a very good friend worked for the major trash hauler in Southern
Nevada. He worked in the repair area. He finally got transferred out, or
just requested another job. He was forever sick with one sort of thing or
another. He said it was from welding on the trash bins and trucks all day.
Yes, they did clean them before repair, but it was impossible to get them
totally clean. And forgeddabout the trucks. Heavy welding on nasty stuff.
But, if there's a market, not much competition, and your prices are good
enough to get the work, that sounds like a plan. I would not care to do it,
and it could possibly get into a lot of fabrication and bending, possibly
enough to get a CNC plasma cutter and such. Which may segway into other
work.
You must live in a rural area, or have great neighbors. I do not think the
situation of heavy equipment rumbling in at all times, and lots of sparks,
smoke, and grinding would be tolerated long even by good neighbors. You may
not even be able to get the idea past the zoning people. And if you did it
on the sly, the first incident that brought the FD or medics would probably
put a halt on production until you got things straightened out. Or the
first idle zoning compliance officer who saw the operation could red tag it.
I did repairs on things the garbage men screwed up, mainly the trash gates
and carports at apartment complexes. They never once asked me to fix the
dumpsters, as they had their own department that did that kind of work.
They were EXCELLENT pay for the other repairs, and I made a ton of money
from them. They and U-Haul were my best customers.
Lastly, if there is a vacuum in the marketplace, I would identify the
reason. It sounds odd that there is work, but no one doing it.
Traditionally trash haulers have been a very highly organized group (if you
know what I mean), and perhaps someone's got a contract that sells new
dumpsters to their Godfather's company, and disdains repairs. Not saying
that is the way it is in your market, but even you seem to have some
curiosity as to why no one around you is doing this work. Find those
answers. You might want to investigate a portable welding service to fix
the other damages they do ...........
Good luck.
Steve
Any chance you could put a generator and welder in a truck and do most of
the repairs on site, instead of having them bring the dumpsters to you? My
impression is that most repairs will be simple, like welding tabs and tracks
back on for the lids and/or doors, followed by a couple of coats of paint.
Keeps the neighbors and zoning people happier. Also, if the smells get
really bad get one of those fresh air-fed helmets :-). Good luck.
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Regards,
Carl Ijames