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Justin

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Aug 8, 2003, 1:55:35 AM8/8/03
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Well I thought I should give stick welding with the new thermal arc
185 machine a try. I got a box of 3/32 E6011 (Fleetweld 180/Lincoln)
set the machine to 60 amps and tried to strike an arc. Damn rod
stuck! So I wiggle it loose and try again this time it's got spatter
like no tomorrow. So I turn the machine down 15 amps and it's way to
low. I check my round try a new rod and the same thing. Eithor it's
to low or to high amps. Is fleetweld 180 really hard to use or or am
I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the input!

Justin

Ernie Leimkuhler

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Aug 8, 2003, 3:00:56 AM8/8/03
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In article <2bee9ae9.03080...@posting.google.com>, Justin
<justin...@hotmail.com> wrote:

What polarity are you running it in?

Should be DC Electrode Positive.
With 6011 you should be able to push the rod right through your base
metal if the amperage is set correctly.
You should not be able to stub it out.

Try it a little hotter, like 70-75 amps.
Keep the arc short.
You can do a simple drag, but whipping will give a nicer weld profile.

Mike Graham

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Aug 8, 2003, 5:58:07 AM8/8/03
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In article <2bee9ae9.03080...@posting.google.com>, Justin wrote:

> Well I thought I should give stick welding with the new thermal arc
> 185 machine a try. I got a box of 3/32 E6011 (Fleetweld 180/Lincoln)

That is, without a doubt, the most miserable version of 6011 available. It
was the first, and it's the worst. It can be handy if you can only have one
electrode, but it is so much of a 'jack of all trades and master of none'
that it's a pain in the ass. It's better for cutting than welding.
Get yourself some 1/8" 7014 (Fleetweld 47) or 6013 (Fleetweld 37+).

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Mike Graham

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Aug 8, 2003, 5:58:52 AM8/8/03
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In article <080820030000565181%er...@stagesmith.com>, Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:

> Should be DC Electrode Positive.

6011 should be pretty happy with AC, though DCEP is just fine, too.

Joe Smith

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:55:44 AM8/8/03
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"Justin" <justin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2bee9ae9.03080...@posting.google.com

This is a two-fold problem: One is that based on your post you seem to
be inexperienced in stick welding. You will need to practice arc strikes
and maintaining the proper arc length--especially until the tip heats up
which is usually just a brief second. The second problem is the machine.
Your machine has an open circuit voltage of 69volts which is a little
low for hot reliable starts--unless you have a hot-start feature. Lucky
you, your machine has hot start. Setting the dial between 0-100 provides
an additional 1-100 amps to the base amperage setting you have set. I
don't know if the default is 0amps or not, but try adding 25-30amps in
addition to your base setting. It will only add the additional amperage
for a few millisec so that should help you in your starts. I don't know
if this machine has a dig function, but that would be helpful to you
after you've started the arc by increasing the amperage when you have
very short arc lengths and are just on the verge of 'stubbing out'. Hope
this helps.

-dseman


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