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Ivan Vegvary

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Dec 9, 2001, 1:28:11 PM12/9/01
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I've been dutifully wearing shaded goggles for over 40 years of hobby
welding. I am now taking an art class (welding) from a 60ą years old
welding professional who claims he has never used shaded lens when
oxy/acetylene welding. He just uses safety glasses over his regular vision
correcting lens.

This is 40+ years of welding, 8 hours a day, of course not all of it with
oxy/acety.
Any comments. Do you welders all wear darkening lens when welding or
cutting? My coach also doesn't wear lens when plasma cutting.

All comments appreciated.

Ivan, amateur in California

BTW, are we as welders merely trying to shield the UV rays or are we also
going after the 'intensity' of light?


xtremely fast

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Dec 9, 2001, 2:09:52 PM12/9/01
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> Any comments. Do you welders all wear darkening lens when welding or
> cutting? My coach also doesn't wear lens when plasma cutting.
>
> All comments appreciated.
when working on new clean steel or pipe I use a clear lens and a cheater
in my burning goggles. also no dark lens for plasma cutting. The tip
shields the UV and IR rays.

Eddie


JP

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Dec 9, 2001, 6:16:49 PM12/9/01
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Hi Ivan,

I wear #5 shade Jackson WC-5 welding goggles for O/A welding and
plasma cutting. These particular goggles have foam around them for
full "pop" protection but look more like sunglasses with a strap on
them, not like goggles. They are very comfortable and I can see well
with them. I get mine from MSC, here's the direct link:
http://www.mscdirect.com/PDF.process?pdf=2925&Keyword=Y They are at
the bottom-left of the page.

The welding light intensity without glasses gives me "sun spots",
making it hard as hell to see anything until they go away. I am also
not fond of UV induced cataracts, which my ophthalmologist said
happens to welders who get flashed or light big torches (rosebuds?)
without glasses on. It is also tempting to plasma cut without glasses
on but it is easy to get UV rays from the small arc, especially when
intently looking at the cut line. Sounds as if this guy is an "artist
type" and dances to his own beat. I'd give him a book on Braille, for
"future reference"!! My eyesight is too important to mess with.

Regards,
JP

Ivan Vegvary

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Dec 9, 2001, 8:00:46 PM12/9/01
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Thank you for the link. If I can wear something more comfortable than the
goggles, I shall. Also maybe a lighter tint.

No, our coach actually spends most of his time welding pipelines and not on
artwork. But your point is well taken and your advice will be heeded.

Thank you.

Ivan, amateur in California

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Gary Coffman

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Dec 10, 2001, 9:02:32 AM12/10/01
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 18:28:11 GMT, "Ivan Vegvary" <iva...@attbi.com> wrote:
>Any comments. Do you welders all wear darkening lens when welding or
>cutting? My coach also doesn't wear lens when plasma cutting.

Depends on the job. For light welding and cutting, I don't wear a shaded lens
either. For heavy work where things are brighter, I do.

>BTW, are we as welders merely trying to shield the UV rays or are we also
>going after the 'intensity' of light?

UV protection and glare protection are basically separate things. You have
to have UV protection, but your safety glasses, or a clear shield, may have
sufficient UV block for lighter work (check with the manufacturer, don't guess).
Glare protection is more an individual thing. I tend to use a setting one or two
shades lighter than is commonly recommended. If I use the commonly
recommended shades, I can't see very well.

Gary

Jen

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Dec 10, 2001, 6:41:04 PM12/10/01
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Well I could go without the lenses but then again I dont want to have to be
a fitter in 10 years...
about the UV protection...would you go out in the sun without sunscreen?
How about going out without sunglasses? Ask that question again when you
have tig welded and had an uncovered spot on your neck then discover you
have a "sunburn" that has possibly become a nasty blister...what do you
think happens to your eyes if the rays can give you a burn...? as for OXY
Acetylene...if you can find a neutral flame without glasses on.. then walk
around without tripping on things in the shop cause you see blue dots then
go for it.


Martin VanMeter

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Dec 11, 2001, 10:39:20 AM12/11/01
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What possible gain is there to using no protection? Why take the
chance. I use a #5 tinted full face shield, very inexpensive, but
full protection. And I don't have to fight with goggles and my
bi-focals (old fart problem).

Mike Graham

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Dec 11, 2001, 1:19:54 PM12/11/01
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On 11 Dec 2001 07:39:20 -0800, vanm...@ace-plc.com (Martin VanMeter)
wrote:

Full face shields are the way to go. I remember cutting a big
rathole in a wicked-big beam, and I got a spray-back that destroyed my
face shield and melted part of my hat to my head. I don't even want
to *think* about what might have happened if I'd not been wearing a
face shield. Now, sometimes on thin beams I think 'ah, I'm just
making one little cut, no point in getting the shield...' and then I
end up cutting with just my safety glasses on, and now I've got all
kinds of chips in my safety glasses where hot slag has hit them and
caused the surface to flake away. It's really worth getting the #5
shade face sheild. It's a hell of a lot easier to cut with the shade,
too.

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Bobby Burri

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Dec 12, 2001, 8:26:29 AM12/12/01
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Me Personally - I like the goggles with the little round individual eye pieces
and changeable lenses. They're not as comfortable as my shaded brazing glasses
but they really give that mad scientist look that scares all the neighbors.

Bobby


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JP

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Dec 12, 2001, 3:46:22 PM12/12/01
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Yahhhh,

That Crazed-Wild-Biker/Welder look! I love it!

Have a good one,
JP

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