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Conversion of Vacuum-energy into Mechanical Energy

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knews4...@yahoo.com

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Jun 29, 2009, 12:41:43 PM6/29/09
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http://www.wbabin.net/physics/turtur1e.pdf

Doesn't break any "laws" of physics.

Mackly

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Jun 29, 2009, 2:28:27 PM6/29/09
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> http://www.wbabin.net/physics/turtur1e.pdf
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> Doesn't break any "laws" of physics.

most of the "static" machines were discovered/invented about 1910.

that paper is presenting old as new.

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Jun 29, 2009, 2:52:26 PM6/29/09
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On Jun 29, 11:28 am, "Mackly" <inva...@invalid.com> wrote:
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Could be.
History repeats itself.
Nothing new under the sun and all that.
So Zero point energy has been here and usable for 100 years and we
still burn fossil fuels.
How stupid is that?

Tim Heise

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Jun 29, 2009, 2:53:58 PM6/29/09
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platitudes
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tbh

doug

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Jun 29, 2009, 4:12:58 PM6/29/09
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Since this violates the law of conservation of energy, it is
not real.

> How stupid is that?

Yes, you have been putting up a lot of stupidity.

Bill Ward

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Jun 29, 2009, 3:19:02 PM6/29/09
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:41:43 -0700, knews4u2chew wrote:

> http://www.wbabin.net/physics/turtur1e.pdf
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> Doesn't break any "laws" of physics.

That's for sure.

Too bad they didn't measure the total HV power in. That might clear up
where the energy's coming from.

Mackly

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Jun 29, 2009, 3:34:06 PM6/29/09
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<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Zero point energy ? Now THAT is STUPID.

google eltrostatics
http://www.advtechind.com/ste/stuv.htm

now get back to work on the Space Elevator.


Uncle Al

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Jun 29, 2009, 4:04:51 PM6/29/09
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knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> http://www.wbabin.net/physics/turtur1e.pdf
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> Doesn't break any "laws" of physics.

Hey stupid - run some cycles.

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Chris

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:00:07 AM6/30/09
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Zero point energy comes from the "particle in a box" quantum mechanical
theory. The energy is (n+1/2)hf where h is planck's constant f is the
classical frequency of the fudimental and n is a positive unteger starting
with zero. So when n=0 the particle still has the energy 1/2 hf. However
since there is no way that this energy can be extracted it is always there.
Nothing can be done with it. This energy occurs at absolute zero otherwise
things would have zero volume at absolute zero. I suppose in a neutron star
the box gets smaller....

You can get this energy out in a black hole....

Try making a black hole in the lab.

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Fred Kasner

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Jun 30, 2009, 12:33:18 PM6/30/09
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knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://www.wbabin.net/physics/turtur1e.pdf
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> Doesn't break any "laws" of physics.

Atleawst any laws of physics that you understand.
FK

Fred Kasner

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Jun 30, 2009, 12:37:27 PM6/30/09
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The "zero point energy" cannot be 'extracted' as that would require a
vibratory system to reduce to zero vibration and exact positioning. All
of which are a violation of the uncertainty principle. No energy level
lies below the lowest vibration level and so no transition exists to
allow such a an energy release.
FK

Benj

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Jun 30, 2009, 1:02:06 PM6/30/09
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On Jun 30, 2:00 am, "Chris" <ns_cjrs@ns_chrisspages.co.uk> wrote:

> You can get this energy out in a black hole....
>
> Try making a black hole in the lab.

soon, baby, soon!

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:33:30 PM6/30/09
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Don't get sucked in...

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Dan

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Jul 1, 2009, 3:21:20 PM7/1/09
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knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://www.wbabin.net/physics/turtur1e.pdf
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> Doesn't break any "laws" of physics.

To my knowledge, the only place you get something for nothing is at the
event horizon, which is why black holes evaporate. Otherwise, this is
nonsense. I know of few people planning on building a black hole in
their back yard any time soon.

Dan

Sam Wormley

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:56:46 PM7/1/09
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Nope Black Holes do NOT violate the conservation of energy!

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