Re: ### *** Re: according to free market dogma, a high trade deficit is
DanB
>
> Yes, the estimate of third quarter growth rate decreased by 20%. The
> growth rate itself grew from negative 0.7 to 2.8.
Yes, and that is the consensus.
<http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE5AN2NY20091124>
But, is it sustainable?
<http://lakeweb.com/money/Total%20U.S.%20Debt%20to%20GDP.gif>
According to ergonomics, we are at 373% in the second quarter.
The fed can't push any harder on that string from here.
alexy
>alexy wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, the estimate of third quarter growth rate decreased by 20%. The
>> growth rate itself grew from negative 0.7 to 2.8.
>
>Yes, and that is the consensus.
><http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE5AN2NY20091124>
>
>But, is it sustainable?
THAT is an excellent question. And a question that is raised by
looking at FACTS. Facts can lead to good discussion. This is in stark
contrast to the guy I was responding to, who felt a need to claim that
GDP and consumer spending are decreasing, even while posting an
article saying that they are increasing.
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Me, again!
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, alexy wrote:
> DanB <a...@some.net> wrote:
>
>> alexy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the estimate of third quarter growth rate decreased by 20%. The
>>> growth rate itself grew from negative 0.7 to 2.8.
>>
>> Yes, and that is the consensus.
>> <http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE5AN2NY20091124>
>>
>> But, is it sustainable?
>
> THAT is an excellent question.
A better question is when is the renminbi going to rise and rise a lot
(like almost everyone but the Chinese think should happen)
And a question that is raised by
> looking at FACTS.
I think that we need to look at more questions...like where is China going
to end up and where the USA is going to end up. So far, it looks bad for
the USA.
> Facts can lead to good discussion.
Facts can also lead to bad discussion, particularly if you cherry-pick the
criteria for facts and IGNORE anything (I won't mention any names, but I'm
talking about YOU) you don't like.
This is in stark
> contrast to the guy I was responding to, who felt a need to claim that
> GDP and consumer spending are decreasing, even while posting an
> article saying that they are increasing.
Oh, I think the other guy, Video, was making a point that YOU did not
like, so you started your nitpicking to avoid the idea that things with
the economy are not going as well as expected or wished.
Shame on YOU.
alexy
Why would I avoid that idea? I absolutely agree that the recovery is
not going as well as wished, or as well as expected by many. I don't
think you need to lie about increasing numbers, claiming they are
going down, in order to make the point that they are not going up as
much as you would like.
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a perfect example of demagoguery. its why almost no one will answer
you.
alexy
>On Nov 25, 4:25�pm, alexy <nos...@asbry.net> wrote:
>> Why would I avoid that idea? I absolutely agree that the recovery is
>> not going as well as wished, or as well as expected by many. I don't
>> think you need to lie about increasing numbers, claiming they are
>> going down, in order to make the point that they are not going up as
>> much as you would like.
>
> a perfect example of demagoguery. its why almost no one will answer
>you.
So in your "mind", a demagog is someone who agrees that things are not
going as well as they should, but is not willing to lie about the
situations to make his point?
I see.
Rod Speed
>>>> Yes, the estimate of third quarter growth rate decreased by 20%.
>>>> The growth rate itself grew from negative 0.7 to 2.8.
>>> Yes, and that is the consensus.
>>> <http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE5AN2NY20091124>
>>> But, is it sustainable?
>> THAT is an excellent question.
> A better question is when is the renminbi going to rise and rise a lot (like almost everyone but the Chinese think
> should happen)
Never, they aint that stupid.
>> And a question that is raised by looking at FACTS.
> I think that we need to look at more questions...like where is China going to end up and where the USA is going to end
> up. So far, it looks bad for the USA.
Only for the pig ignorant fools that havent even noticed that
not only does almost all of the full commercialisation of almost
all technology STILL happen in the US first, its STILL the only
economy in the entire world that is STILL capable of complete
imploding the entire world financial system, AGAIN.
>> Facts can lead to good discussion.
> Facts can also lead to bad discussion, particularly if you
> cherry-pick the criteria for facts and IGNORE anything (I won't
> mention any names, but I'm talking about YOU) you don't like.
Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh hypocrite ?
>> This is in stark contrast to the guy I was responding to, who felt a need to claim that GDP and consumer spending are
>> decreasing, even while posting an article saying that they are increasing.
> Oh, I think the other guy, Video, was making a point that YOU did not like, so you started your nitpicking to avoid
> the idea that things
> with the economy are not going as well as expected or wished.
Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
> Shame on YOU.
Nope, on YOU.
Me, again!
Samples of actual sentences (actual quotes) that Rod Speed uses to
displayh his intellectual brilliance, spelling and grammatical prowess,
and other elements of his politeness/compassion/patience.....
---------
No one ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
He's just another pig ignorant fool. No surprise that you 'think' that
the sun shines out of his arse.
Like hell it does.
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a
fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Me, again!
Once upon a time
There was this big
Flaming Blow-Hard Asshole
Called Rod Speed
He huffed and puffed
Implied that only he knew the truth
That all others lied, ignoranted, etc.
And, he recycled all of his mirth
And, so he blew hard the flames as follows....
Such wonderful examples of logical falacies
Ad hominems, and many other examples of diversions
Political ploys, plys, spins, and evasions
No one ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
He's just another pig ignorant fool. No surprise that you 'think' that
the sun shines out of his arse.
Like hell it does.
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a
fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
And so one person wrote an FAQ about Rod Speed
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.internet.wireless/
2006-07/msg00462.html
(be careful about the line break if you copy and past)
That FAQ was written way before my knowledge of Rod Speed
And, how should we think about Rod Speed?
Is he mentally ill?
Be glad he is not in the White House?
Treat him with humor instead of seriousness?
Nah, just watch him huff and puff
And blow himself to bits
And be entertained and give applause
And, ask for an encore
Rod Speed
own lines, or anything else at all either, with pathetic psychotic
delusions about being a dog, desperately cowering behind
Me, again! desperately attempted to bullshit and lie its way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
No surprise that it got the bums rush, right out the door, onto its lard arse.
No surprise that its so pathetically bitter and twisted about it.
Rod Speed
Me, again!
There once was a bloke known as Rod Speed
Of course, but no one would heed
He was, of course, just a big
Flaming Blow-Hard Asshole
He huffed and puffed
Implied that only he knew the truth
That all others lied, ignoranted, etc.
And, he recycled all of his mirth
And, so he blew hard the flames as follows....
Such wonderful examples of logical falacies
Ad hominems, and many other examples of diversions
Political ploys, plys, spins, and evasions
No one ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
He's just another pig ignorant fool. No surprise that you 'think' that
the sun shines out of his arse.
Like hell it does.
Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a
fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
And so one person wrote an FAQ about Rod Speed
Me, again!
I, Rod Speed, am a gutless fuckwit psychopath with pathetic psychotic
delusions about being a human, desperately cowering behind
my ass, desperately attempted to bullshit and lie my way out of
my predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
No surprise that I got the bums rush, right out the door, onto my lard
arse.
No surprise that I'm so pathetically bitter and twisted about it.
Rod Speed
Rod Speed
Me, again!
There once was a bloke known as Rod Speed
Of course, but no one would heed
He was, of course, just a big
Flaming Blow-Hard Asshole
He huffed and puffed
Implied that only he knew the truth
That all others lied, ignoranted, etc.
And, he recycled all of his mirth
And, so he blew hard the flames as follows
Such wonderful examples of logical falacies and hollow
Ad hominems, and many other examples of diversions
Plays, ploys, plys, spins, and evasions from he
"No one ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that."
"Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys."
"He's just another pig ignorant fool. No surprise that you 'think' that
the sun shines out of his arse."
"Like hell it does."
"Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys."
"Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had
a fucking clue about anything at all, ever."
And so one person wrote an FAQ about Rod Speed
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.internet.wireless/
2006-07/msg00462.html
(be careful about the line break if you copy and past)
That FAQ was written way before my meeting of Rod Speed
Me, again!
There once was a bloke known as Rod Speed
Of course, but no one would heed
He was, of course, just a big
Flaming Blow-Hard Asshole
He huffed and puffed
Implied that only he knew the truth
That all others lied, ignoranted, etc.
And, he recycled all of his mirth
And, so he blew hard the flames as follows
Such wonderful examples of logical falacies and hollow
Ad hominems, and many other examples of diversions
Plays, ploys, plys, spins, and evasions from he
"No one ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that."
"Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys."
"He's just another pig ignorant fool. No surprise that you 'think' that
the sun shines out of his arse."
"Like hell it does."
"Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys."
"Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had
a fucking clue about anything at all, ever."
And so one person wrote an FAQ about Rod Speed
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.internet.wireless/
2006-07/msg00462.html
(be careful about the line break if you copy and past)
That FAQ was written way before my meeting of Rod Speed
Rod Speed
Rod Speed
Me, again!
Me, again!
Once upon a time there was an emperor
Who had the idea he could spin clothes made out of gold
Of course, they were invisible, and all the emperor's people laughed
Because the emperor's clothes did not exist
Once upon a time there was a Rod Speed
Who no one would heed
He thought he had the one and ultimate truth
And no one else but him spoke it
And, thus he called everyone names and bad names
And, everone ignored him, as always
He lied, he fibbed, he spun, he spin
He huffed and puffed, buffooned, and bluffed
And, blew himself to bits.
Rod Speed
Rod Speed
Me, again!
Me, again!
I, Rod Speed, am a gutless fuckwit psychopath with pathetic psychotic
delusions about being a human, desperately cowering behind
my ass, desperately attempted to bullshit and lie my way out of
my predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
No surprise that I got the bums rush, right out the door, onto my lard
arse.
No surprise that I'm so pathetically bitter and twisted about it.
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Rod Speed wrote:
Rod Speed
Rod Speed
Gutless Fuckwit
See below....and watch carefully.....
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Rod Speed wrote:
> I, Rod Speed, am a gutless fuckwit psychopath with pathetic psychotic
> delusions about being a human, desperately cowering behind
> my ass, desperately attempted to bullshit and lie my way out of
> my predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
>
> No surprise that I got the bums rush, right out the door, onto my lard
> arse.
>
> No surprise that I'm so pathetically bitter and twisted about it.
I bet I can get China to make these "jacks-in-the-box" with the above
pre-recorded sound track, for 50 cents and I'll sell them in the USA for
$15.00