Idaho Demonstration from The Genesis Project

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William A. Stehl

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Dec 4, 2002, 6:54:40 PM12/4/02
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Anyone know anything about this project. It is code named the "Edison
Device" and is allegedly the work of 400 "visionaries" who are about to
"change the world of energy generation as we know it."

The demo is in Boise, Idaho at 10:30 on 12/5/02 at the Boise Centre on the
Grove.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks


Dan Bloomquist

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Dec 4, 2002, 8:24:45 PM12/4/02
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William A. Stehl wrote:


google search for: "Edison Device" energy.

11 hits. one about a time travel machine.

Got a feeling someone is about to 'get rich quick'.

Best, Dan.

vlj

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Dec 4, 2002, 9:47:04 PM12/4/02
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"William A. Stehl" <was...@msn.com> didst scribe:

Sounds like scamola to me ... probably similar to http://www.ftn.info and
perhaps even the same bunch.

--
stælth


Klaus

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Dec 5, 2002, 9:53:18 PM12/5/02
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Sounds quite interesting, so interesting I can't believe it's true.
Did you read this news release
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/021205/50296_1.html
Press Release Source: Genesis World Energy


Scientific Breakthrough Liberates Energy Users from Fossil Fuel
Dependence
Thursday December 5, 6:45 pm ET
Technology breakthrough harnesses energy from the molecular structure
of water


BOISE, Idaho--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 5, 2002--Genesis World Energy, a
privately funded consortium created by a group of military and space
program research and development specialists, today unveiled a
scientific breakthrough that allows consumers to easily access the
energy contained within the hydrogen and oxygen molecular structure of
ordinary water.
This scientific breakthrough provides a limitless, low cost and
environmentally clean source of energy that can be implemented with
minimal cost and effort. The viability of using water as an energy
source, previously a theoretical concept, is now a reality. "Water has
always been the source of life on this planet, now it will also
transform the way we create energy," said Charles Shaw, corporate
counsel and spokesperson for Genesis World Energy. "The implications
for worldwide energy generation and consumption are nothing less than
staggering."

The Genesis Project

The technology is the result of nearly two years of continuous effort
by a team of more than 400 visionaries from a wide spectrum of
disciplines, including science, technology and engineering. Assembled
as the "Genesis Project," the team discovered a way to extract far
more energy from water than the extraction process itself required;
differentiating this new fuel cell technology from any other
development efforts thus far. The key component of the Genesis Project
technology is the Genesis gCell, which through a series of
electro-chemical processes separates hydrogen and oxygen molecules in
water. The resulting gas molecules can either be burned cleanly as a
replacement for natural gas or various other traditional forms of
fuel, or may be remarried within Genesis eCells (an advanced fuel
cell) to generate large amounts of electrical current. When both
Genesis gCells and eCells are combined, the entire process becomes
self-generating, recycling both water and electricity from the
molecular reattachment phase. A more detailed description of the
process can be found on the Genesis World Energy Web site
www.genesisworldenergy.org.

The Edison Device

The first application of this technology is represented in the "Edison
Device," a self-contained, self-sustaining energy generation unit.
Roughly the size of an outdoor air conditioning system, the power
source can be quickly and easily installed in any home or business to
provide virtually unlimited energy from any available water source.

The Edison Device utilizes the existing electrical wiring and natural
gas plumbing in a home or business to replace the energy provided by
utility companies. The home version of the Edison Device produces
approximately 30 kilowatts of combined gas and electrical energy per
day. By comparison, the typical home uses between five to six
kilowatts per day. The commercial model is capable of producing 100
kilowatts of energy per day. The energy generation portion of the
devices has no moving parts. In fact, the only "mechanical" aspects of
the equipment are small circulation pumps and micro-valves, making the
Edison Device both silent and virtually maintenance-free. A minimum
amount of water is used over an estimated 20+ years of service life.

Market Ready

The commercialization of the devices is the responsibility of two
business entities, Genesis World Energy and World Energy Management.
Genesis World Energy is a technology development, production and
supply consortium, while World Energy Management functions as the
exclusive licensing representative for the worldwide distribution of
Edison Devices.

According to Nejhla Shaw, World Energy Management President, "We will
make Edison Devices rapidly available to governments and industries on
a worldwide basis, with special licensing opportunities for those
industries that will be most affected by the technology. For the first
time in the history of the world, a clean and abundant source of
renewable energy is as simple as the attachment of three wires, a gas
line and a water hose."

Dan Bloomquist

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Dec 5, 2002, 10:11:22 PM12/5/02
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Klaus wrote:

> Sounds quite interesting, so interesting I can't believe it's true.


> Did you read this news release
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/021205/50296_1.html
> Press Release Source: Genesis World Energy
>


Let the games begin!
This should keep seh busy for a while :)

And, of course, if it's true, their license is meaningless, so why
bother????

Some one is looking to get rich.

Best, Dan.

Klaus

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Dec 5, 2002, 10:39:08 PM12/5/02
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Looks like it's too good to be true!

Press Release Source: Genesis World Energy

Duke McMullan N5GAX

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Dec 6, 2002, 11:20:01 AM12/6/02
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"Klaus" <robe...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:e1e07d7f.02120...@posting.google.com...

> Sounds quite interesting, so interesting I can't believe it's true.
> Did you read this news release
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/021205/50296_1.html
> Press Release Source: Genesis World Energy

It's the underlying physics I can't believe is true. The laws they're
violating aren't physical. ;^)


> today unveiled a
> scientific breakthrough that allows consumers to easily access the
> energy contained within the hydrogen and oxygen molecular structure of
> ordinary water.

I've heard better technobabble on Star Trek.

> The viability of using water as an energy
> source, previously a theoretical concept, is now a reality.

Not a _scientific_ theoretical concept, it ain't. Many people abuse that
word, which, in science, means a lot more than a wild-assed idea. In fact,
the vast majority of wild-assed ideas aren't even to be taken seriously as
conjectures.

You can suggest anything, if you base it on ignorance.

> "Water has
> always been the source of life on this planet, now it will also
> transform the way we create energy," said Charles Shaw, corporate
> counsel and spokesperson for Genesis World Energy.

Source of life, my ass. It's necessary to the mechanisms of LAWKI, but it
isn't the "source of life" by any reasonable description.

> "The implications
> for worldwide energy generation and consumption are nothing less than
> staggering."

The implications for worldwide investor fleecing are nothing less than
staggering.

I'd be real pleased to be proven wrong about this.

I submit that I won't be.


d
--
Intellectuals, in particular literary intellectuals, are natural Luddites.
-- C.P. Snow
Duke McMullan n5gax nss13429rl(fe) (505)255-4642 mtm...@qwest.net

Chris

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Dec 6, 2002, 11:35:55 AM12/6/02
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In article <e1e07d7f.02120...@posting.google.com>, robe...@telus.net (Klaus) wrote:
>Looks like it's too good to be true!
>
>Press Release Source: Genesis World Energy

Same scam, different day.

Harry Conover

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Dec 6, 2002, 1:41:50 PM12/6/02
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"William A. Stehl" <was...@msn.com> wrote in message news:<4BwH9.44508$kO5.4...@news1.news.adelphia.net>...

It's an obvious scam directed at exceptionally ignorant people.

What more do you need to know?

Harry C.

Dan Bloomquist

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Dec 6, 2002, 2:05:32 PM12/6/02
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Duke McMullan N5GAX wrote:

>
> The implications for worldwide investor fleecing are nothing less than
> staggering.
>


Ah, and the real benchmark for such claims:
The stir in the physics community would be staggering. Criteria for the
said observation would have leaked a long time ago with 400 visionaries
on the job. Benches across the country would have had old projects swept
aside to explore this new phenomenon.

But not a word...

Best, Dan.

Tony Q King

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Dec 6, 2002, 11:49:24 PM12/6/02
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"Harry Conover" <hhc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's rumoured that the test will involve the usage of a ...

wait for it! .........


A De Lorean! (imported from Nashville for this auspicious occasion)

-Tony

"Hydrogen is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is an energy carrier!
Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and an inefficient master."
- Millard Fillmore.

" That's all very nice, Mr. Ballard, but where do we get the hydrogen?"
-J.P. Morgan

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