Phasor pain field
tim_phillips
an advertisement by Scientific Systems, Amherst NH for a device
called a 'Phasor pain field'
"Patented .... being tested by Gov't for riot control. soon to come
under weapons restrictions as an infernal machine."
also: 'Invisible pain field generator'
" Produces a directional field of moderately intense pain to
back of head up to 50 ft."
I case that's not enough,they also advertise a 'Particle beam weapon'
so, what gives ?? No, I *dont* want one :-) I'm curious about
how such things could possibly work (if at all)
regards
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Tim Phillips uca...@uk.ac.ucl
Physics and Astronomy Dept.
University College London (no comma between 'College' and 'London')
Gower St. London England. [The Home of Jeremy Bentham]
David Gibson
A phasor is basically a small dilithium crystal (approx 25 micrograms)
enclosed in a miniature warp field generator. The secret is the
tessaract coupling, but I'm sure you would understand that. The
overall effect is quite stunning.
David aka Scotty
Eugene Kang
>Actually, the "pain field" generator advertised consists of moderate-to-high
>power ultrasonic devices. The devices consist of a high frequency acoustical
>driver circuit that is used to drive (usually) several piezoelectric elements.
>The resulting effect is somewhat worse than those irritating TV tests that
>the National Broadcast System runs every now and then.
>
>D. Hatfield
>Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
>Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Ok, one question. Do they really cause `intense pain'?
BTW, is it the same as the one sold by Information Unlimited?
Are they actually legal? What about their ion ray gun?
thanks!
dhatfiel
>also: 'Invisible pain field generator'
> " Produces a directional field of moderately intense pain to
> back of head up to 50 ft."
>
>I case that's not enough,they also advertise a 'Particle beam weapon'
>
>so, what gives ?? No, I *dont* want one :-) I'm curious about
> how such things could possibly work (if at all)
>regards
>
>--
>Tim Phillips uca...@uk.ac.ucl
>Physics and Astronomy Dept.
>University College London (no comma between 'College' and 'London')
>Gower St. London England. [The Home of Jeremy Bentham]
Actually, the "pain field" generator advertised consists of moderate-to-high
John Lundgren
: Tim Phillips wrote:
: >I was browsing thru a copy of Radio Electronics Jan 1984 and saw
: >an advertisement by Scientific Systems, Amherst NH for a device
: >called a 'Phasor pain field'
: ...
: >also: 'Invisible pain field generator'
: ...
: >I case that's not enough,they also advertise a 'Particle beam weapon'
: >so, what gives ?? No, I *dont* want one :-) I'm curious about
: > how such things could possibly work (if at all)
There is a company that still advertises them in the electronics
magazines. There is a book by Iannini that tells how to make them.
The pain field generator is just several piezo tweeters on the front of a
hand held device with a transistorized oscillator and amplifier, and some
batteries inside. It's like those pocket alarms that ladies buy to scare
off the thieves, but louder, I would think since the power output is
several tens of watts.
: Well Tim, you've just found another fascinating aspect of American pop
: culture. For the last century, virtually every male-oriented pop
: magazine has included adds for technigizmos purporting to endow young
: lads with desirable abilities. In the 1920's it was Xray vision to
: see through ladies undies, in the 1950's it was the ability to
: commandeer and transmit on any radio channel. Our more robust
: contemporaries obvious lust after the power to blow all of "them"
: away, preferably with extreme pain.
: These are adolescent fantasy items, not engineering projects.
I think you're wrong on this one. Read the book, and then tell us what
you think. I make no claims that this will really work, but it is a real
project with the ability to make very loud sounds that can cause some
physical reaction, I don't know if you would call it pain. The book also
has a Tesla coil project in it. Please spare us your comments that a
Tesla coil is not real, OK?
: How do they work? On fine print and extreme literalism. A few are
: exactly as they appear (boring), some produce miniscule effects, but
: the real biggies are "plans" e.g. "Carefully mold 8 kg of weapons
: grade plutonium into a hollow sphere (contact your federal government
: for suggsted suppliers)..."
The plans that are in the book have all the info to go to the hardware
store and get so much PVC pipe for the housing and how to cut the wood
for the rest of the project, and on and on. There is no magic to these
like getting plutonium, or other such ewxotic stuff. But there are some
things like the piezo transducers that may be hard to find.
: The kids probably learn something for their $20. As a boy (ca. 1905)
: my dad sent in a dime for THE SECRET OF MAKING MONEY QUICK and
: received a tiny note "Catch suckers like we do". He never forgot the
: lesson. These are the modern equivalent.
: But then, a man from the home of Jeremy Bentham should understand
: hucksterism :-).
I would call it advertising that is a bit on the extreme side, but I
would not say that it's hucksterism, since the ads have been around any
number of years. If it was hucklsterism, the LEAs would have done
something by now.
: Salut, Merv
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Kevin McMurtrie
>I was browsing thru a copy of Radio Electronics Jan 1984 and saw
>an advertisement by Scientific Systems, Amherst NH for a device
>called a 'Phasor pain field'
>"Patented .... being tested by Gov't for riot control. soon to come
> under weapons restrictions as an infernal machine."
>also: 'Invisible pain field generator'
> " Produces a directional field of moderately intense pain to
> back of head up to 50 ft."
I haven't seen anyone with a 50 foot head. I guess such a head would hurt
anyway. You can knock a person out with ultrasound but it's hard to make
people stand next to large titanium transducer disks wired to a wall of
power circuits.
It is impossible to make high energy ultrasound from a small device -
remember that you can never pull on air harder than a vacuum and just
pushing makes wind.
There have been military experiments successful at making people sick and
disoriented using very high power subsonic resonations. Again, it's hard
to make people stand next to a bunch of subwoofers wired to a wall of
power circuits.
>I case that's not enough,they also advertise a 'Particle beam weapon'
Squirt guns? Yeah, they're mean!
>so, what gives ?? No, I *dont* want one :-) I'm curious about
> how such things could possibly work (if at all)
Cobra
>an advertisement by Scientific Systems, Amherst NH for a device
>called a 'Phasor pain field'
>"Patented .... being tested by Gov't for riot control. soon to come
> under weapons restrictions as an infernal machine."
>
>also: 'Invisible pain field generator'
> " Produces a directional field of moderately intense pain to
> back of head up to 50 ft."
>
fairly high-decibel ultrasonic sound (depending on model). Dogs, of course,
hate this sound, and find it quite painful. Women and small children, who
are more sensitive to ultrasonic sound, may also experience pain. Since
the signal isn't audible, it's experienced as a pain, tension, or burning
in the ears, back of the neck, or skull.
Make a ultrasonic signal strong enough, and it will be incredibly painful
to anyone... of course, at this strength, you're also causing permanent
hearing damage.
The devices they describe are not effective as weapons... they're more of
an annoyance, although they can be used for animal control. Don't try it
with a human, you'll more than likely piss them off :)
The Ion Ray Gun is a directional ionizer. Just like the negative-ion
generators that are sold for air purification, and often built into
portable air filters. This ones a bit stronger, and like I said,
directional. You can point it at a person, and given that he's not grounded,
when he touches a grounded object, he'll get quite a shock :) Or you
can point it at a metal collector and the metal will eventually build up
enough charge to light a neon bulb in pulses.
The plans from Information Unlimited are quite expensive individually, but
there is a book published by Mr. Iannini, the inventor, with many of the
plans (including both you inquired about) for slightly more than the price
of mail ordering a set of plans. It's called, I believe, "Lasers, Phasers,
and Other Space-Age Projects", or something very similar. My local library
has it, and I've seen it advertised by electronics book clubs, and in the
back of the Info. Unlimited catalog itself, if I remember correctly.
Chris
Greg Erker
has stalled with the birth of my daughter a year and a half ago.
Rather than seeing my supplies go to waste I would like to sell them.
I have some film and some glass plates. Both are AGFA
8E75-HD NAH. They are red sensitive high resolution
film so they are good for transmission and reflection
holograms.
1) 1 box of 2.5x2.5" glass plates (30 plates). Box is
still sealed, never opened. Paid about $63 US with
S&H from Keystone Scientific in November 93. Expiry date
on plates is 04/97. They have been stored in a cool
room. I would like to get about $42 US for these or
Canadian equivalent.
2) 38 sheets of 4x5" film. This was from a half box
of 50 sheets. (I used up 12 sheets.) Paid about
$1.72 per sheet with S&H from Keystone in Nov 93.
Expiry date on sheets is 02/97. These have also
been properly stored. I would like to get about
$43 US for these or Canadian equivalent.
Highest reasonable bid by Friday gets them.
If you buy both: 10% off. I will pay shipping and
insurance to Canada or US. Anywhere else we
can negotiate.
I presently have one offer on the plates and
none on the film. Please respond by Friday
if interested.
Thanks - Greg
er...@sask.trlabs.ca
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Greg Erker, Research Engineer at, but not speaking for,
Telecommunications Research Laboratories (TRLabs)
#108, 15 Innovation Blvd., Saskatoon, SK, CANADA
Ph: 306-668-8209 Fax: 306-668-1944
dhatfiel
To deaf people, no, but to people that can hear, the results can be particularly
irritating. As far as being illegal, no, not at present that I know. They are much
more irritating than dangerous (unless you happen to anger a rather nasty
little doggie with one).
The ion ray gun is a simple high (usually very high) voltage source that allows
you to "leak" electrons to or from objects. This process ionizes (charges) the
object and therefore subjects the said object to an unpleasant shock when
allowed to deionize (much like static electricity). You can perform some neat
little tricks such as lighting some fluorescent tubes with no wires. Beware of
some of the products available from Information Unlimited. They appear to
portray many of their products to be more "glamorous" than they really are.