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DaveC

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Dec 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/18/97
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When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
and rape, if I remember correctly.

I am reluctant to pass on this god-awful tradition to kids interested in
electronics today. What memory tool are schools teaching now to help keep
the color code straight?

Thanks.

Enjoy,
Dave
--
Dave Carpenter
Sound Logic

Frank Reid

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Dec 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/18/97
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Take your pick:


Better be right or your great big venture goes west.

Bad Booze Rots Our Young Guts But Very Good Wiskey Goes Smooth.
^ ^
Gold Silver

Batman Blows Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge. Very good, Wayne;
Get Superman Next!
^ ^ ^
Gold Silver None


Not great, but P.C. is this semi-memorable phrase via the
U. of Minn. Society for Women Engineers:
By Becoming Revolutionary Orators, Young Girls Become Very Great Women,

Better Buy Resistors Or Your Grid Bias Voltages Go West

(for the younger viewers, you could substitute "Gate" for "Grid".)

Big Bird Runs On Your Garden But Vegetables Grow Wonderfully

Better Build Roof Over Your Garage Before Van Gets Wet

Black Beetles Running On Your Grass Bring Very Good Weather

Betty Brown runs over your garden but Violet Gray walks.

Because Boys Run Over Your Garden, Be Violent, Get Western Shot Guns

Boiled Bufallo Ribs Or Yak Gizzards Beat Vapid Gazelle Wienies.

Bad Beer Rots Our Young Guts But Vodka Goes Well. Guzzle Some Now!

--

Frank re...@indiana.edu

,,,

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Dec 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/18/97
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From article <19971218144039.reid@frank_reid.electronics.indiana.edu>,
by re...@indiana.edu (Frank Reid):

>
> Better be right or your great big venture goes west.

Or, for those in Iowa,

Black Bricks Rise Over Yellow Grain Bins, Violets Grow When Snow's Gone
----- ------ ------- ----
============================= ======================
locally favored colors local color

And about the following:

> Bad Booze Rots Our Young Guts But Very Good Wiskey Goes Smooth.
> ^ ^
> Gold Silver

> Because Boys Run Over Your Garden, Be Violent, Get Western Shot Guns

^ ^
Silver Gold

One or the other? Which? (OK, I know, it makes equal sense to list
Gold and Silver in either order. You just have to know!)

Doug Jones
jo...@cs.uiowa.edu

Jerry G.

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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Hi there...

You really did it well this time...  I am keeping yours to display in the
shop where I work !  The guys,  this includes a few female techs are going
to have a drink to this one !

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Frank Reid <re...@indiana.edu  > wrote in article <19971218144039.reid@frank_reid.electronics.indiana.edu>...
| In Article <voicebox-181...@dnai-207-181-210-215.dialup.dnai.com> "voic...@dnai.com (DaveC)" says:


| > When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
| > the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
| > and rape, if I remember correctly.
| >
| > I am reluctant to pass on this god-awful tradition to kids interested in
| > electronics today. What memory tool are schools teaching now to help keep
| > the color code straight?
| >
| > Thanks.
| >
| > Enjoy,
| > Dave
| > --
| > Dave Carpenter
| > Sound Logic
| >
|  
| Take your pick:
|  
|  

| Better be right or your great big venture goes west.
|  

| Bad Booze Rots Our Young Guts But Very Good Wiskey Goes Smooth.
|                                                    ^    ^
|                                                    Gold Silver
|  

| Batman Blows Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge. Very good, Wayne;
| Get  Superman Next!
| ^    ^        ^
| Gold Silver   None
|  
|  
| Not great, but P.C. is this semi-memorable phrase via the
| U. of Minn.  Society for Women Engineers:
| By Becoming Revolutionary Orators, Young Girls Become Very Great Women,
|  
| Better Buy Resistors Or Your Grid Bias Voltages Go West
|  
| (for the younger viewers, you could substitute "Gate" for "Grid".)
|  
| Big Bird Runs On Your Garden But Vegetables Grow Wonderfully
|  
| Better Build Roof Over Your Garage Before Van Gets Wet
|  
| Black Beetles Running On Your Grass Bring Very Good Weather
|  
| Betty Brown runs over your garden but Violet Gray walks.
|  

| Because Boys Run Over Your Garden, Be Violent, Get Western Shot Guns
|  

Jerry Atric

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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Here's what they taught us in the Army back before the
"let's-be-nice-to-the-females" days:

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls Behind Very Grown Willows

variation:

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Violet Gives Willingly


MFA MAINT

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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In article <voicebox-181...@dnai-207-181-210-215.dialup.dnai.com>,
voic...@dnai.com says...

>
>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>and rape, if I remember correctly.
>Thanks.
>
>Enjoy,
>Dave
>--
>Dave Carpenter
>Sound Logic
We learned it as:
Bad Boys Race Our Young Girls But Violet Generally Wins


Dr. Bellows

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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DaveC wrote:
>
> When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
> the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
> and rape, if I remember correctly.
>

Bad Boys Rape Other Young Girls Because Violet Gives Willingly.

Ralph Wade Phillips

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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Hi, Dave!

DaveC <voic...@dnai.com> wrote in article
<voicebox-181...@dnai-207-181-210-215.dialup.dnai.com>...


> When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
> the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
> and rape, if I remember correctly.
>

> I am reluctant to pass on this god-awful tradition to kids interested in
> electronics today. What memory tool are schools teaching now to help keep
> the color code straight?
>

> Thanks.
>
> Enjoy,
> Dave
> --
> Dave Carpenter
> Sound Logic
>

Better Be Right Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West ...

GoSoNoCo

(Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Grey White, Gold Silver
NoColor)

RwP


Beau Schwabe

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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In article <01bd0c92$bd857300$3296ac81@nt_srvr_1>, ral...@techie.com says...

Perhaps, the best way to remember is to get all of the resistors you can find,
throw them up into the air, and SORT all of them. By the time your done, "most"
of them will become automatic...."you'll just know" - hehe


Anyway, repitition of use is the best way (In my opinion).


Check out my site, for an easy to understand resistor color-code diagram for
4,5,& 6 band resistors.


http://www.ionet.net/~bschwabe/BasicStampII/ResistorColorCodes/resistor.gif


Richard Steven Walz

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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In article <19971218144039.reid@frank_reid.electronics.indiana.edu>,
>> When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
>> the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>> and rape, if I remember correctly.
>>
>> I am reluctant to pass on this god-awful tradition to kids interested in
>> electronics today. What memory tool are schools teaching now to help keep
>> the color code straight?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Dave
>> --
>> Dave Carpenter
>> Sound Logic
>>
>
>Take your pick:
>
>
>Better be right or your great big venture goes west.
>
>Bad Booze Rots Our Young Guts But Very Good Wiskey Goes Smooth.
> ^ ^
> Gold Silver
>
>Batman Blows Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge. Very good, Wayne;
>Get Superman Next!
>^ ^ ^
>Gold Silver None
>
>
>Not great, but P.C. is this semi-memorable phrase via the
>U. of Minn. Society for Women Engineers:
>By Becoming Revolutionary Orators, Young Girls Become Very Great Women,
>
>Better Buy Resistors Or Your Grid Bias Voltages Go West
>
>(for the younger viewers, you could substitute "Gate" for "Grid".)
>
>Big Bird Runs On Your Garden But Vegetables Grow Wonderfully
>
>Better Build Roof Over Your Garage Before Van Gets Wet
>
>Black Beetles Running On Your Grass Bring Very Good Weather
>
>Betty Brown runs over your garden but Violet Gray walks.
>
>Because Boys Run Over Your Garden, Be Violent, Get Western Shot Guns
>
>Boiled Bufallo Ribs Or Yak Gizzards Beat Vapid Gazelle Wienies.
>
>Bad Beer Rots Our Young Guts But Vodka Goes Well. Guzzle Some Now!
>
>--
>
>Frank re...@indiana.edu
----------------------------------------------------------
The only problem with those is that they are NOT MEMORABLE!

Even detractors seem to remember the "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But
Violet Gives Willingly, Get Some Now!", but I have asked even them what
OTHER acronym they would like to remember, and they can never THINK of the
others!!!! Even the detractors!! This demonstrates the use of luridity
as an aid to memory which can't be denied!! Now later in one's career, one
will simpply "see color, think number", but to learn, I see no better way
than to yield to what works. The human mind is more sexual and more
seemingly self-contradictory to prigs and prudes than they would like it
to be. It is a bit like unto natural law in that respect!! ;->
-Steve
P.S., Why in the fuck is it ALWAYS some Indianan who gets involved in this
question?!! They must have put the Kinsey Institute in Indiana to counter-
act that state's sexual insipidity!! ;->
-Steve
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-Electronics Site!! 1000 Files/50 Dirs!! http://www.armory.com/~rstevew
Europe:(Italy) http://ftp.cised.unina.it/pub/electronics/ftp.armory.com


John.D.W...@tek.com

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In article <67dv3b$1mt6$1...@news.missouri.edu> mfam...@digmo.org (MFA MAINT) writes:
>From: mfam...@digmo.org (MFA MAINT)
>Subject: Re: How to remember resistor color code?
>Date: 19 Dec 1997 14:07:39 GMT

>>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
>>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>>and rape, if I remember correctly.

>>Thanks.
>>
>>Enjoy,
>>Dave
>>--
>>Dave Carpenter
>>Sound Logic

>We learned it as:
>Bad Boys Race Our Young Girls But Violet Generally Wins
....................
My highschool "radio" teacher taught us "Better Be Right Or Your Great Big
Venture Goes Wrong"


Jason D.

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:15:29 -0800, voic...@dnai.com (DaveC) wrote:

>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>and rape, if I remember correctly.
>

>I am reluctant to pass on this god-awful tradition to kids interested in
>electronics today. What memory tool are schools teaching now to help keep
>the color code straight?
>

>Thanks.
>
>Enjoy,
>Dave
>--
>Dave Carpenter
>Sound Logic

Hi! Funny, I have seen several "poems" assisting the color code
memorizion...from my education days...

BUT! This does not wash well with mine because I'm deaf and get in
trouble trying to memorize all in right order because I depend on
association and meaning behind them. That's why, I get lot of
problems if math teacher forced me to learn on my own and their
examples without any good expalation, gotchas and watch-outs. Ok,
I pulled up my multi-experience (Yes, I did dabble in arts,
blacksmithing, electronics, physics, stars...) and saw sense out of
it:

Black and white is not color. So black starts first because it's
black hole, nada, nothing means ZERO; then brown (lightening from
black to brown; senisible.), that brown has tad of reddish in it so it
naturally leads to red. Red leads to orange then yellow (from my tad
of blacksmith experience, thanks to my brother's hobby)! Yellow has
part of Green so it naturally again follows green, then blue (easy to
remember: mix yellow and blue gives green!), violet (rainbow has most
of them in right order). Finally easy to remember that grey follows
to clear white! Keep in mind for silver and gold: Value of these two
makes sense too; Silver is lesser of Gold which is more valueable.
Soooo: Silver is 10% (looser values, sloppy, cheap.) and Gold is 5%
which is more expensive due to tighter tolenaces.

So that's more complex memorization that that I have done with lots of
mental "Post its" all over.

So it got natural with practice: black, brown, red, orange, yellow,
green, blue, violet, grey, white, silver and gold.
Same order: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10% and 5%.

Jason D.

BrandoBike

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Dec 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/20/97
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In electronic cources here in Scotland the traditional rhyme that we are taught
for the colour code is;
black boys rape our young girls but virgins get whipped

gfulton

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Dec 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/21/97
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Here's a bit of non-PC foolishness I had to think up myself when they
started teaching me transistors instead of tubes about 30 years ago.

Charlie Brown Eases Charlotte
Into Every Bed But
Only Cause Charlotte's Easy.

Common Base Emitter Collector
Input Emitter Base Base
Output Collector Collector Emitter

Common Base-Input's the Emitter, Output's the Collector.
Common Emitter-Input's the Base, Output's the Collector.
Common Collector-Input's the Base, Output's the Emitter.

All this aggravation and IC's have made it a useless effort. (Who
remembers, 'Oscar had a hairy old arm, Sarah could tell?')

Garrett Fulton
gfu...@salisbury.net

Will McArthur

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Dec 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/21/97
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Here's the one I learned...

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly.


Adam Menzies wrote in message <67jdgu$i5m$2...@biffo.sol.co.uk>...
>
>Well, If you're British, this poem is also a bit of a history lesson:
>
>Black Bearded Richard Of York Gained Battle; Violently Slayed William
>
>stands for:
>
>Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Slate(grey) White
>
>

Adam Langford

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Dec 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/22/97
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It's probably been said before, but anyway :

Bad Beer Rots Our Young Guts But Vodka Goes Well

or another version of the one below :

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Virgins Go Without


"Will McArthur" <willmc...@technologist.com> wrote:

Adam Langford
ad...@zip.com.au

There is an industry standard in the computer industry
which most machines attempt to appear to follow - CSCI

Remove the numbers from my address to reply


kingsnake

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Dec 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/22/97
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MFA MAINT wrote:
>
> In article <voicebox-181...@dnai-207-181-210-215.dialup.dnai.com>,
> voic...@dnai.com says...
> >
> >When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
> >the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
> >and rape, if I remember correctly.
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Enjoy,
> >Dave
> >--
> >Dave Carpenter
> >Sound Logic
> We learned it as:
> Bad Boys Race Our Young Girls But Violet Generally Wins


Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Violet Goes Wild for Gold and
Silver.

A good exercise is to dump out a bunch of 5% and 10% resistors on the
bench, and then sort them out according to value. It becomes like
reading this text, after awhile. I know, because you can hold up a
resistor in front of me, and I can instantly rattle off the value.
1% resistors take me two or three seconds, though ...

Hey, if DOLPHINS can do it, so can you!

CUL


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Mike Middleton

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kingsnake wrote:

> MFA MAINT wrote:
>
>
> Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Violet Goes Wild for Gold and
> Silver.
>

Whatever happened to Violet anyway? Hope she gave up her wicked ways and married
well.

Mike Middleton, engineer
Wirebenders Inc.
2440 W. Mission Lane #9
Phoenix AZ 85021-2824
e-mail co...@goodnet.com
voice 602-861-1856
fax 602-870-9242

Oldguyteck

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Dec 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/23/97
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Violet has since joined the cluster of nuns, namely Little flowers of
Violet convent.
or so the rumors have it.
Ed................(Oldguyteck)

--
"Old Tecks ...never die....They just SPARK-AWAY!"

Mike Middleton <co...@goodnet.com> wrote in article
<349F3D54...@goodnet.com>...

Lepore

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Dec 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/25/97
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Does anyone have another mnemonic for the color code, one
that wouldn't get be fired for telling to a high school
physics class??

sn...@nova.dreamscape.com

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Dec 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/26/97
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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:15:29 -0800, voic...@dnai.com (DaveC) wrote:

>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>and rape, if I remember correctly.
>

>I am reluctant to pass on this god-awful tradition to kids interested in
>electronics today. What memory tool are schools teaching now to help keep
>the color code straight?
>

>Thanks.
>
>Enjoy,
>Dave
>--
>Dave Carpenter
>Sound Logic

How I remember is black-brown-ROYGBV-grey-white

the ROYGBV is the visible spectrum of colors found in a rainbow -
which is also used in physics class too!


Bill McCracken

HARRISON

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Dec 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/26/97
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Bad=0
Boys=^1
Rope=^2
Our=^3
Young=^4
Girls=^5
But=^6
Violet=^7
Goes=^8
willing=^9

Beau Schwabe

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Dec 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/26/97
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In article <34A32E...@mxhv.net>, lep...@mxhv.net says...

>
>Does anyone have another mnemonic for the color code, one
>that wouldn't get be fired for telling to a high school
>physics class??

Black= 0
Brown= 1
Red= 2
Orange= 3
Yellow= 4
Green= 5
Blue= 6
Violet= 7
Grey= 8
White= 9
Silver=10%
Gold= 5%
Red= 2%

BB-guns aRe Our Young Generations Best Victory Game With
Supervision Greatly Required!

....It's not the best, but it's not to difficult to remember.


Ken Stoorza

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Dec 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/26/97
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What worked form me was simply to remember (from a voltage perspective)
the the referenced element (i.e. common "whatever") was the one with no
signal.

Ken

Dr. Bellows

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Jan 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/2/98
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Howard Goldstein wrote:
>
> On Thu, 25 Dec 1997 23:09:44 -0500, Lepore <lep...@mxhv.net> wrote:
> : Does anyone have another mnemonic for the color code, one

> : that wouldn't get be fired for telling to a high school
> : physics class??
>
If you don't use the GOOD version, the kids won't remember it!! The
only things I remember from school are from the teachers that let us
call them by thier first name, and used "dirty words" to make cute ways
for us to remember things such as the resistor color code. Had I been
told a cleaned-up version that would be "moral" and "acceptable" I would
not have remembered it for so long.

None of MY teachers got fired, but they did earn the respect of thier
students and remember everything from THIER classes, but nothing from
the other teachers who taught straight out of the text books.

ki...@earthlink.net

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sn...@nova.dreamscape.com wrote:

Here's another ryhm, : bad beer rots our young guts , but vodka goes
well. ...........Jerry

pspray

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Jan 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/3/98
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>>>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
>>>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>>>and rape, if I remember correctly.


But it wasn't half as bad as the one the geology guys came up with for
remembering Moh's hardness scale for minerals - the one that starts
with talc and ends with diamond... I heard it once and didn't remember
it all. The beginning was "Take Any Old Q*** ...".

But you have to remember that back when these things were devised, there
were very few women or nonwhite folks in those areas of study, and there
wasn't any such thing as Political Correctness.
( B.C.R. = Before Civil Rights)

-- pHil


joe

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Jan 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/10/98
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do you mean:
best boys respect our young girls but violet got wealthy
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Roger Heward (valQIS) (green1)

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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> > >>>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
> > >>>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
> > >>>and rape, if I remember correctly.
> do you mean:
> best boys respect our young girls but violet got wealthy
> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
well that works... I remmeber a different one...
political correctness has caused some rewirtes... when I learned it in
highschool in grade 10 it was given as:
bad boys race our young girls but violet generally wins

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
when I took electronics in college they droped that all together and
went for:
better be right or your great big venture goes wrong

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
mind you the one that sticks in my mind is the one that beleive it or
not my father taught me at about age 13 or 14... and perhapps the reason
I remember it is because it is so politically INCORRECT:
bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Roger
2nd year Computer Engineering Technology
SAIT

Richard Steven Walz

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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In article <34B799...@jedavisent.com>, joe <jed...@jedavisent.com> wrote:

>pspray wrote:
>>
>> >>>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
>> >>>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>> >>>and rape, if I remember correctly.
>>
>> But it wasn't half as bad as the one the geology guys came up with for
>> remembering Moh's hardness scale for minerals - the one that starts
>> with talc and ends with diamond... I heard it once and didn't remember
>> it all. The beginning was "Take Any Old Q*** ...".
>>
>> But you have to remember that back when these things were devised, there
>> were very few women or nonwhite folks in those areas of study, and there
>> wasn't any such thing as Political Correctness.
>> ( B.C.R. = Before Civil Rights)
>>
>> -- pHil
>do you mean:
>best boys respect our young girls but violet got wealthy
>0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
--------------------------------------------------------------
Civil Rights does not equal Political Correctness.

Civil Rights is when you have the right to equal treatment in things that
materially matter. Like speech in your own space and unpopular opinions.
Like service from a publically open business, or the right to obtain
lodging or the right to an education or medical care.

Political Correctness is when you LOSE the right to free speech in return
for someone's imagined "right not to be offended" by something you might
say when they can stay or leave as they wish without material loss.

So don't equate the loss of one with the existence of the other. PC robs
everyone of the RIGHT NOT TO HAVE TO LIE about what you think. That's the
MOST dangerous of all assaults on people, and the CORE of all repression
of humanity.

Nick Hull

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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In article <69at26$4...@news.scruz.net>, rst...@armory.com (Richard Steven
Walz) wrote:

Of course, restaurant owners are not allowed the RIGHT NOT TO HAVE TO LIE
about what they think. Sopon you will lose your right too.

--
Free men own guns - slaves don't
Committees of Correspondence web page:
<http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/>
nh...@mindspring.com

Andrew Brierley

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98
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How about:

Big bastards rape our young girls but violet gives willingly


> best boys respect our young girls but violet got wealthy
> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

That is the censored version, it used to be a whole lot less politically
correct.

Andrew

Richard Steven Walz

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98
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In article <nhull-ya02408000...@news.mindspring.com>,

Nick Hull <nh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>In article <69at26$4...@news.scruz.net>, rst...@armory.com (Richard Steven
>Walz) wrote:
>
>> In article <34B799...@jedavisent.com>, joe <jed...@jedavisent.com> wrote:
>> >pspray wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to
>remember
>> >> >>>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
>> >> >>>and rape, if I remember correctly.
>> >>
>> >> But it wasn't half as bad as the one the geology guys came up with for
>> >> remembering Moh's hardness scale for minerals - the one that starts
>> >> with talc and ends with diamond... I heard it once and didn't remember
>> >> it all. The beginning was "Take Any Old Q*** ...".
>> >>
>> >> But you have to remember that back when these things were devised, there
>> >> were very few women or nonwhite folks in those areas of study, and there
>> >> wasn't any such thing as Political Correctness.
>> >> ( B.C.R. = Before Civil Rights)
>> >>
>> >> -- pHil
>> >do you mean:
>> >best boys respect our young girls but violet got wealthy
>> >0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> Civil Rights does not equal Political Correctness.
>>
>> Civil Rights is when you have the right to equal treatment in things that
>> materially matter. Like speech in your own space and unpopular opinions.
>> Like service from a publically open business, or the right to obtain
>> lodging or the right to an education or medical care.
>>
>> Political Correctness is when you LOSE the right to free speech in return
>> for someone's imagined "right not to be offended" by something you might
>> say when they can stay or leave as they wish without material loss.
>>
>> So don't equate the loss of one with the existence of the other. PC robs
>> everyone of the RIGHT NOT TO HAVE TO LIE about what you think. That's the
>> MOST dangerous of all assaults on people, and the CORE of all repression
>> of humanity.
>> -Steve
>> --
>> -Steve Walz rst...@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com:/pub/user/rstevew
>> -Electronics Site!! 1000 Files/50 Dirs!! http://www.armory.com/~rstevew
>> Europe:(Italy) http://ftp.cised.unina.it/pub/electronics/ftp.armory.com
>
>Of course, restaurant owners are not allowed the RIGHT NOT TO HAVE TO LIE
>about what they think. Sopon you will lose your right too.
>--
>Free men own guns - slaves don't
--------------------------------------------
Restaurant owners have the same right as anyone else, just not on the job
in their publically open business! If they wished to ONLY serve members and
have members wait on each other in a private club and them profit, they
COULD say anything they wish even at work! IF the CLUB liked it! Businesses
protected and provided safety to exist by the democracy MUST serve ALL
comers who are not problematic to the running of the business in their
behavior IF that behavior would be grounds to bar ANYONE else from the
premises! They ALSO, IF they hire publically from among the public, must
NOT be allowed to either discriminate nor sustain a pattern of harrassment
which makes working for them a living hell!! I think those are civilized
rules when we set about free and open trade! How would YOU like it if you
were the ONLY believer in a faith in your small semi-rural community and
you were barred accomodations in restaurants, motels, housing, markets,
rental-housing, and were barred BECAUSE of your RELIGION from every store
in your county!! Or how about on the basis of your last NAME, or your eye
color? You can quickly see that when a business makes USE of public open
protection of trade and hangs out a shingle, that they are required to be
"open" for business to ANYONE who is not disorderly!! They are also
required to hire any qualified applicant and not to be prejudiced, and then
not to harrass them on the job, which is a quasi-publically protected state
of being in a "captive audience" for your bullshit! No one needs to put up
with that in a civilized nation of laws and equality!! But can a
rstauranteur say anything he wishes on a public street corner or on a
soapbox in the park at high noon that would get him charged if vented at
his business? Sure he can!! Or he can have a partnership business with
someone who believes as he does and not hire anyone else!! But he had
better not decline to serve the public if he has fixed open-for-business
hours, however, he can pick and choose contract jobs on any private basis
he wishes!! I think that draws the proper balance between the rights of the
public versus the rights of the individual! Put yourself in the place of
someone who is experiencing prejudice, and I think you will see and
understand this right away!! Society would NOT function without these
rules! "Open-for business" is a publically sanctioned and protected act.
Those soliciting its services are similarly protected, as in any contract
law situation!

KNIGHT STAR

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The one I use:
1 black eye
2 red lips
3 oranges (slot machines)
yell 4 (as in golf)
5 green dollars (as in five dollars)
blue and 6 (like sick)
violet 7 (like heaven)
gr-- 8 (like great)
white 9 (like wine)
I didn't care for the poem either and I learned it in high school!:-)

Nick Hull

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In article <69ifqu$m...@news.scruz.net>, rst...@armory.com (Richard Steven
Walz) wrote:

Society HAS functioned without these rules for thousands of years, and we
had a better society before these rules were imposed.

--
Free men own guns - slaves don't

James Goacher

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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:37:07 -0400, nh...@mindspring.com (Nick Hull)
wrote:

>In article <69ifqu$m...@news.scruz.net>, rst...@armory.com (Richard Steven
>Walz) wrote:
>

Lot deleted.

Why not just rember the colour code or put it in a book and read it as
necessary?
I am well into my 50's and the only way I can remember the little
rhymes and aids to remembering the colour code is to remember the
colour code. I suspect that applies to the vast proportion of people.
I'm bemused. (of England) (Oh BTW when you have to choose a country of
origin in modern computer sofware installations are we limited to
United Kingdom or Great Britain instead of England, Scotland, Ireland
and Wales)

Love James.

Gene R.

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Well.....(Sounding like Ron Reagan)...I've been at it
for many years...and I'll tell you how to do it RIGHT!
Put together a box of resistors of various popular values.
Then pull them out one at a time and look up their values on
a chart. (List...or whatever) Then put them in another box.
Just keep on pulling them out and looking them up....
You will find out that before five or ten minutes have gone by
....you will pull one out and NOT have to look it up....you will
remember it!
AND...if you keep this exercise up for awhile......you will get to
know them without even thinking about the colors! IE:a yellow\
purple\orange will be a 47K to you by it's "look" without any
thought as to what the colors are!
Just remember to double-check the values for awhile if
you're doing anything important to make sure you don't do
any damage with the wrong value. Believe me it won't be
long before you "Know the Code"!
Good Luck,
Gene R.


gre...@concentric.net

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In <1998Jan17.1...@lorelei.approve.se>, h...@approve.se.NO_JUNK_EMAIL (Goran Larsson) writes:
>In article <34C01DC6...@home.com>,
>KNIGHT STAR <xlexe2, @home.com> wrote:
> ...

>> I didn't care for the poem either and I learned it in high school!:-)
>
>I did not learn a stupid poem because then I had to learn both the
>poem and how to translate the poem into colors and then when I wan't
>to use it, count the number of words in the poem. Instead I used
>a totally new and revolutionary method; I just learned to associate
>numbers with colors, and vice versa! Simple and elegant. :-)

That's the way I eventualy did it too. Although I must
admit I still have trouble remembering if Orange comes before
Yellow and where Blue fits into the scheam. That's where
mnomics come in handy. Even so I remember back in school
when everyone was still using the Radio Shack color wheel
thing I was able to read the resistors from memory (and some
help from the mnomic).
Today when I see a violet band I just automaticly think 7.
and red is 2, green is 5, etc. See I didn't even have to
recite the mnonic to type that.

Some advice for those of you that are trying to memorize this.
Don't try to memorize the entire color code at once. Take it
two or three colors at a time. Start with black, brown, red.
Now when you have to decode a resistor, force yourself to
not recite the mnomic. Look at the resistor and see if there
is anything there that you think you know. Guess if you have
to. You might amaze yourself at howmany times you guess
right. Once you get those three, work on another three.
After a while you can amaze the guys around the lab by
reaching into a box of resistors, pulling out a brown-black-red
and saying "Here's that 1K you wanted".

Gordon
>
>--
> Goran Larsson hoh AT approve DOT se
> I was an atheist, http://home1 DOT swipnet DOT se/%7Ew-12153/
> until I found out I was God.

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In article <34c12027...@news.powernet.co.uk>,

James Goacher <j...@goacher.powernet.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:37:07 -0400, nh...@mindspring.com (Nick Hull)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <69ifqu$m...@news.scruz.net>, rst...@armory.com (Richard Steven
>>Walz) wrote:
>>
>Lot deleted.
>
>Why not just rember the colour code or put it in a book and read it as
>necessary?
>I am well into my 50's and the only way I can remember the little
>rhymes and aids to remembering the colour code is to remember the
>colour code. I suspect that applies to the vast proportion of people.
>I'm bemused. (of England) (Oh BTW when you have to choose a country of
>origin in modern computer sofware installations are we limited to
>United Kingdom or Great Britain instead of England, Scotland, Ireland
>and Wales)
>
>Love James.
-------------------------------------------------------
Everyone who uses this stuff doesn't NEED that rhyme or mnemonic for
more than a short time. I see color -> think number. We all do that. But
rather than waste time learning something that's not memorable, it's been
shown that the one they Do remember long enough NOT to need one long IS the
nastiest one! So fuck! Just learn it and stop whinging about it not being
PC or some stupid shit! Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives
Willingly, etc. western humans seem to remember raunchy lyrics the easiest,
viz, British army and Irish drinking songs! Etc. Screw prude assholes!
Use what works!

joll...@mc.net

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> pspray wrote:
> >
> > >>>When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
> > >>>the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
> > >>>and rape, if I remember correctly.
> >
> > But it wasn't half as bad as the one the geology guys came up with for
> > remembering Moh's hardness scale for minerals - the one that starts
> > with talc and ends with diamond... I heard it once and didn't remember
> > it all. The beginning was "Take Any Old Q*** ...".
> >
> > But you have to remember that back when these things were devised, there
> > were very few women or nonwhite folks in those areas of study, and there
> > wasn't any such thing as Political Correctness.
> > ( B.C.R. = Before Civil Rights)
> >
> > -- pHil
> do you mean:
> best boys respect our young girls but violet got wealthy
> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
>
bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly


Hamish Moffatt

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In sci.electronics.basics Nick Hull <nh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Free men own guns - slaves don't

If we're going to get into politics, I might as well point out that
this is a load of crap. Free men don't need to own guns.
But then I live in a country where we don't go around scared of
everyone else.


Hamish
--
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Student, computer science & computer systems engineering. 4th year, RMIT.
http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [****** ] 60%
If you get a wrong answer, multiply by the page number. Especially in CO305.

Pete Davis

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I just keep the back page of one of the Radio Shack Mims books handy at all
times. I'm slowly starting to pick it up, though. The way I see it, unless
you're being tested (I'm not, this is my hobby), there's no reason to force
yourself to memorize it. If you use it enough, you'll learn it without
having to work at it.

I want to learn Spanish. I have two real choices: I can take a class (I hate
classes, so that's out), or I can go to a Spanish speaking country. So, I
decided to move to Mexico :-) I'm not one for making learning hard. I do it
the easy way ;-)

Pete Davis

Mark Zenier wrote in message ...
>In article <69um4s$lov$1...@news1.epix.net>, Gene R. <gen...@epix.net>
wrote:

>My feelings exactly. An aid to this is to make up a chart with each
>number in it's respective color. Here's an example. (Not too fond of
>the brown and the green, oh well, just learning how to use Xdraw on
>Linux).
>
>

in...@execulink.com

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A little memory device

Bad Black
Boys Brown
Rob Red
Ordinary Orange
Young Yellow
Girls Green
But Blue
Violet Violet
Gives Grey
Willingly White

Lepore

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I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,
I mean, using something less offensive than
"kings play chess on fat girls' stomachs." However,
as far as the resistor code is concerned, I'll tentatively
I'll stick with black-brown-(the colors of the rainbow)-
gray-white, where the colors of the rainbow are already
known to be red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violet.

Richard Steven Walz

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In article <6a6m6b$4e6$2...@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>,

Hamish Moffatt <hmof...@mail.com> wrote:
>In sci.electronics.basics Nick Hull <nh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Free men own guns - slaves don't
>
>If we're going to get into politics, I might as well point out that
>this is a load of crap. Free men don't need to own guns.
--------------------------------------------------
Just because YOU don't need to vote, for example, for your society to
likely remain within parameters unoppressive to YOU, does NOT mean that
ALL free people ALSO don't need THEIR vote!! You live at THEIR sufferance
iif you don't vote, and are free and defended at their sufferance if you
don't have a gun!! You are living in deluded luxury that is a
happenstance!
-Steve

>But then I live in a country where we don't go around scared of
>everyone else.

>--
>Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust
>ham...@debian.org, hmof...@mail.com

------------------------------------------
Without the means to defend your freedom, you are free ONLY at the whim of
chance and the common "squeal". You're deluded that you are not ever in any
danger. Yet clearly, there are no completely benign societies; NONE where
nothing bad is ever committed against an innocent person! We don't feel
threatened constantly, and yet we know better than to pretend that nothing
COULD happen to us at the hands of another, which is what you seem to
believe!

Oh, Sure! Aussieland is a cute place, I know, but it is not without heinous
crime! Why would you delude yourself?? Do people who live hours from law
enforcement help and medical aid live without guns in Aussieland?? The hell
they do! They do NOT!! And wherever you live, the act that can cause your
death takes but moments, whether you are right next to a police station or
deep in the Outback!! To deprive people of the right of self-defense by
the best weapons available is clearly the act of an uncaring society!

If crime is rarer there, it might be because you have a less diverse and less
congested or less inequitable society! A person doesn't pick where they are
born and what language they speak! But the fact remains, that they DO FIRST
remove from slaves the right to self-defense, and that they do NOT do this
to free people! It is not a mere assertion! It is a DEFINITION of Freedom!

That YOU imagine YOU would never NEED a gun is like unto never believing
that you needed a VOTE, just BECAUSE the society SEEMED to be benign and
harmless! Pray it doesn't change much, since you have no means to oppose
such a change! All YOU can *DO* is Pray!!

Don Huff

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Lepore wrote:
>
> I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
> kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,
> I mean, using something less offensive than
> "kings play chess on fat girls' stomachs." However,
> as far as the resistor code is concerned, I'll tentatively
> I'll stick with black-brown-(the colors of the rainbow)-
> gray-white, where the colors of the rainbow are already
> known to be red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violet.

Lepore,

My XYL and I (we both work in electronics) learned the
resistor color code in the 50's by remembering the
jingle, "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls, but Violet
Gives Willingly".

Seems just as good today as a crutch for remembrance.

73,
Don, W6JL

ed ngai

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Lepore wrote:
> I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
> kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,
> I mean, using something less offensive than
> "kings play chess on fat girls' stomachs." However,
> as far as the resistor code is concerned, I'll tentatively
> I'll stick with black-brown-(the colors of the rainbow)-
> gray-white, where the colors of the rainbow are already
> known to be red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violet.

hi, if i remember it right...

big boys race our young girls but violet grey wins

ed

John MacDonald

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ed ngai <en...@sprintmail.com> wrote in article
<34C97D...@sprintmail.com>...


> Lepore wrote:
> > I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
> > kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,

The best way is through spacial descrimination.

Take all of your resitors, dump them in one big pile.

sort them by the last band.

Black
Brown
Red
Orange
Yellow
..

you will never forget, this method can be done over and over until you
remember by the position of your sorted resistors.

Good luck, this worked for me in 1979.

gre...@concentric.net

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In <34C824...@mxhv.net>, Lepore <lep...@mxhv.net> writes:
>
>I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
>kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,

"King Phillip Crossed Over France Going South"

gre...@concentric.net

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In <34C97D...@sprintmail.com>, ed ngai <en...@sprintmail.com> writes:

>
>Lepore wrote:
>> I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
>> kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,
>> I mean, using something less offensive than
>> "kings play chess on fat girls' stomachs." However,
>> as far as the resistor code is concerned, I'll tentatively
>> I'll stick with black-brown-(the colors of the rainbow)-
>> gray-white, where the colors of the rainbow are already
>> known to be red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violet.
>
>hi, if i remember it right...
>
>big boys race our young girls but violet grey wins

Bye Bye Rosie, Off you go. Bristol Via Great Western
>
>ed

Richard Steven Walz

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In article <34C901...@popmail1.vcd.hp.com>,

Don Huff <dh...@popmail.vcd.hp.com> wrote:
>Lepore wrote:
>>
>> I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
>> kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,
>> I mean, using something less offensive than
>> "kings play chess on fat girls' stomachs." However,
>> as far as the resistor code is concerned, I'll tentatively
>> I'll stick with black-brown-(the colors of the rainbow)-
>> gray-white, where the colors of the rainbow are already
>> known to be red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violet.
>
>Lepore,
>
> My XYL and I (we both work in electronics) learned the
>resistor color code in the 50's by remembering the
>jingle, "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls, but Violet
>Gives Willingly".
>
> Seems just as good today as a crutch for remembrance.
>
> 73,
> Don, W6JL
------------------------------------------------------
As for Kingdom, Phyllum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species, our teacher
simply had us say it as a chant every morning for a week, louder and louder
for three minutes. I can't GET it out of my head now thirty plus years
later even if I WANTED to!! Repetition is an amazing thing. I don't have
trouble with any of the things like the multiplication tables, the first
30 elements, the resistor codes, etc., simply because I submitted them to
excessive repetition just as I had been taught other things. In electronics
classes I have taught, I simply have students close their eyes and envision
the colors while I said the number for about 5 minutes for several days,
and then I drilled them by tossing out the EIA three-digit values and
asking for the colors, or the colors and asking for the numbers back! I
would insert a question like that in the middle of my lectures at the
blackboard, or go around and have them each whisper in my ear! It is
surprising how little it takes to embed a table in a human brain!! The
menmonic is amusing, and tends to cement it for the first time, so it is
useful, but I have had to break people of the mnemonic sentence as well when
I kept catching them saying it subvocally and the consequent delay in their
answer! I had to push them to keep it but not use it, and instead do
the color to number correspondence! NOTHING works like simple repetition!

Robert Sheridan

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> answer! I had to push them to keep it but not use it, and instead do
> the color to number correspondence! NOTHING works like simple repetition!

Another example for your anecdotes, Richard:

I've still got per-ic, -ic, -ous, hypo-ous, hydro-ic stuck in my head.
The nomenclature for strong acids in chemistry, when you have different
numbers of oxygen atoms in the cation... We used to recite that in
chemistry. Hooray for repetition!

RS

SCHeMaTiC

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ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba baba bui

On 26 Jan 1998 03:26:35 GMT, gre...@concentric.net wrote:

>>Lepore wrote:
>>> I'm also trying to find a better way to remember
>>> kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species,
>>> I mean, using something less offensive than
>>> "kings play chess on fat girls' stomachs." However,
>>> as far as the resistor code is concerned, I'll tentatively
>>> I'll stick with black-brown-(the colors of the rainbow)-
>>> gray-white, where the colors of the rainbow are already
>>> known to be red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violet.
>>

Mike Tomlinson

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In article <6agvpb$p...@examiner.concentric.net>, gre...@concentric.net
writes

>>
>>big boys race our young girls but violet grey wins
>
>Bye Bye Rosie, Off you go. Bristol Via Great Western
>>

(courtesy of my physics teacher 15 years ago)

Barbara Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Won't.

and for the planets...

Many Volcanoes Erupt Mouldy Jam Sandwiches Under Normal Pressure.

--
Mike Tomlinson
+++ Divide by cucumber error.
Please reinstall universe and reboot +++

Chris Williams

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B.ad B.oy R.O.Y. G.ot B.usted V.oilating G.ary's W.ife

Jerry Petrey

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Chris Williams wrote:
>
> B.ad B.oy R.O.Y. G.ot B.usted V.oilating G.ary's W.ife

I still think the old Navy one I was taught many years ago is
the best:

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly

Not Politically Correct today but you'll never forget it.


Jerry

Jonathan D. Armendariz

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.....but you forgot the tolerance ones...

(G)et (S)ome (N)ow

Just thought i'd put my 2 pesos in!

Peace

Jonathan


Matt J. McCullar

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:

> (courtesy of my physics teacher 15 years ago)
>
> Barbara Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Won't.
>
> and for the planets...
>
> Many Volcanoes Erupt Mouldy Jam Sandwiches Under Normal Pressure.

Great! I hadn't heard either of those before. One of my old teachers
told me a mnemonic for remembering the order of satellites orbiting
Saturn, which for the life of me I can't remember now.

Does anyone know a mnemonic for the Mohs scale, used for rating the
hardness of rocks in geology?

Matt J. McCullar
Arlington, TX
"Paschal, you rascal, you broke my jug!"

ro...@trib.com

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On 17 Feb 1998 22:56:13 GMT, "Chris Williams" <cwi...@mailcity.com>
wrote:

>
>B.ad B.oy R.O.Y. G.ot B.usted V.oilating G.ary's W.ife

bad booze rots our young guts but vodka goes well
bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly
etc ad infinitum
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Chris Williams <cwi...@mailcity.com> wrote in article
<01bd3bf6$b7622ca0$b02af4ce@williams>...


>
> B.ad B.oy R.O.Y. G.ot B.usted V.oilating G.ary's W.ife
>
>

OR

B.ad 0
B.oys 1
R.ape 2
O.ur 3
Y.oung 4
G.irls 5
B.ut 6
V.iolet 7
G.oes 8
W.illingly 9

gre...@concentric.net

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In <34EA28...@isrc.net>, "Matt J. McCullar" <sat...@isrc.net> writes:
>Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>
>> (courtesy of my physics teacher 15 years ago)
>>
>> Barbara Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Won't.
>>
>> and for the planets...
>>
>> Many Volcanoes Erupt Mouldy Jam Sandwiches Under Normal Pressure.
>
OR.. My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us New Pickels.

>Great! I hadn't heard either of those before. One of my old teachers
>told me a mnemonic for remembering the order of satellites orbiting
>Saturn, which for the life of me I can't remember now.
>
>Does anyone know a mnemonic for the Mohs scale, used for rating the
>hardness of rocks in geology?
>
>Matt J. McCullar
>Arlington, TX
>"Paschal, you rascal, you broke my jug!"

John Stephen Patrick

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gre...@concentric.net writes:

>In <34EA28...@isrc.net>, "Matt J. McCullar" <sat...@isrc.net> writes:
>>Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>>
>>> (courtesy of my physics teacher 15 years ago)
>>>
>>> Barbara Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Won't.
>>>

Hmmm... I hadn't heard that on before. Mind if I add it to my list,
Mike?

FYI, I've recently started a Resistor FAQ (frequently Asked Questions).
It's located at: http://www.ecn.ou.edu/~jspatric/resistor.html
A couple color code mnemonics are located half-way down.

It's still in the process of finishing up with good answers to the
original questions, so bear with me.

Thanks,
John
--
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Electrical Engineering Grad @ The University of Oklahoma
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Mike Tomlinson

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In article <6d0d86$5s2$1...@artemis.backbone.ou.edu>, John Stephen Patrick
<jspa...@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu> writes

>>>>
>>>> Barbara Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Won't.
>>>>
>
>Hmmm... I hadn't heard that on before. Mind if I add it to my list,
>Mike?

Be my guest. It was made easier to remember by dint of the fact that we
actually had girls named Barbara Brown and Violet Grey at school <grin>

WMTillman

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>Subject: Re: How to remember resistor color code?
>From: ro...@trib.com
>Date: Tue, Feb 17, 1998 21:35 EST
>Message-id: <34ea4894.192289843@news>

>
>On 17 Feb 1998 22:56:13 GMT, "Chris Williams" <cwi...@mailcity.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>B.ad B.oy R.O.Y. G.ot B.usted V.oilating G.ary's W.ife
>bad booze rots our young guts but vodka goes well
>bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly
>etc ad infinitum
>Schematics for Strange Devices http://w3.trib.com/~rollo/bomcat.htm
>Roll-o C/O Bomarc Services po box1113 Casper Wyoming 82602 USA
>+1-307-234-3488
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I've always used that whole ROY G. BiV thing, but dropped the indego and added
brown and Black. But i just carry around a card for quicker referance, or when
i don't have a crap load of em to sort.

WMt

mrib...@hotmail.com

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On 25 Feb 1998 06:20:54 GMT, jspa...@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (John
Stephen Patrick) wrote:

>gre...@concentric.net writes:
>
>>In <34EA28...@isrc.net>, "Matt J. McCullar" <sat...@isrc.net> writes:
>>>Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> (courtesy of my physics teacher 15 years ago)
>>>>

>>>> Barbara Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Won't.
>>>>
>
>Hmmm... I hadn't heard that on before. Mind if I add it to my list,
>Mike?
>

>FYI, I've recently started a Resistor FAQ (frequently Asked Questions).
>It's located at: http://www.ecn.ou.edu/~jspatric/resistor.html
>A couple color code mnemonics are located half-way down.
>
>It's still in the process of finishing up with good answers to the
>original questions, so bear with me.
>
>Thanks,
>John
>--
> John Patrick (jpat...@ou.edu) - KC5VEI
> Electrical Engineering Grad @ The University of Oklahoma
> * John's EE Page: <http://www.ecn.ou.edu/~jspatric/ee-info.html> *
> * Univ. of Oklahoma Amateur Radio Club: <http://www.ou.edu/ouarc> *


Bad Black 0
Boys Brown 1
Raped Red 2
Our Orange 3
Young Yellow 4
Girl Green 5
But Blue 6
Violet Violet 7
Gave Grey 8
Willingly White 9

Doug Younker

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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Get= Gold
Some=Silver
Now= None

To add the tolorance indication bands, Geez! I can't remember the
percentages attribued to the bands,SRI

--
73, Doug Younker, N0LKK
near Plainville, KS
do...@ruraltel.net


Ronnie Quinn

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In article <01bd3c2d$5c7af9c0$dbcbc3a3@peter>, peter...@futuredbn.co.za says...

>
>
>
>OR
>
> B.ad 0
> B.oys 1
> R.ape 2
> O.ur 3
> Y.oung 4
> G.irls 5
> B.ut 6
> V.iolet 7
> G.oes 8
> W.illingly 9
>
>
G.et Gold 5%
S.ome Silver 10% (tolerance)
N.ow Nothing 20%

RQ


Peter F. Curran

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In article <34A32E...@mxhv.net>,
Lepore <lep...@mxhv.net> writes:
>Does anyone have another mnemonic for the color code, one
>that wouldn't get be fired for telling to a high school
>physics class??

Bad Black
Beer Brown
Rots Red
Our Orange
Young Yellow
Guts Green
But Blue
Vodka Violet
Goes Gray
Well White
..

Good-n- Gold 5%
Smooth Silver 10%

--
Peter F Curran
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute


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Use address in Organization line, finger
for PGP key. Antispaam test in progress.


WMTillman

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Yea, but watch those wierd resistors, with tha wacky extra band.
I got a whole bunch of those once and was quite stumped, until i found out it
was supposed to have something to do with how many would fail out of so many.

Wmtillman
Crazy

Roy F. Gordon Jr.

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Tom MacIntyre wrote:
>
> As the father of a daughter, I am highly offended by this!! How about
> this?!?!
>
> Bad
>
> Boy
>
> Ronnie
>
> Offends
>
> You
>
> But
>
> Virtue
>
> Wins!!!!!!!!!!
>
> (you)
>
> Got
>
> Some
>
> Nerve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You left out GREY! Generally.

Tom MacIntyre

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Barbara C. Banaszynski

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Peter F. Curran <nos...@pascal.stu.rpi.edu> wrote in article
<6dlesr$7bq$1...@proxye1.nycap.rr.com>...

Radio Shack sells a resistor color code guide which has helped me many
times, check it out!
-Cris Banszynski

Magister

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Big - Black (0)
Brown - Brown (1)
Rabbits - Red (2)
Often - Orange (3)
Yield - Yellow (4)
Great - Green (5)
Big - Blue (6)
Vocal - Violet (7)
Groans - Gray (8)
When - White (9)
Gingerly - Gold (5% tolerance)
Slapped - Silver (10% tolerance)
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Barbara C. Banaszynski <barb...@iglou.com> wrote in article
<01bd494e$79dac8a0$51efffcc@oemcomputer>...

William L. Bahn

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Another way to approach it is to provide a rational explanation for WHY the
colors are ordered the way they are - that's a lot easier to dredge up from
memory two years down the road then some mnemonic unless the mnemonic has a
very easy flow to and says something that makes sense.

So, you might ask, what is my rational explanation? Simple. Now, I don't
claim that this is the true origins of the code, but it makes sense and
when you're just using the explanation as a key to remembering the code,
that's what's important. None-the-less, I don't recommend claiming that
this is the actual origin unless you can verify that it is - I think of it
as simply a useful fairy tale.

O.K. We want to make a resistor color code so let's start with an ordering
of colors that everyone is already familiar with - the rainbow.

Red
Orange
Yellow
Green
Blue
Violet

You can use the good old ROY G. BIV memory aid and just remember that
Indigo was removed since most people can't distinguish between Indigo and
Violet (in practice) and nearly everyone has a good idea of what Violet
looks like (i.e., basically purple).

This gives us six of the ten that we need so we need four more. Well, let's
get four shades that go from dark to light:

Black
Brown
Gray
White

What's the best way to combine these two series? We could just but one in
front of the other - but which one to start with? Let's spilt the
difference and put the rainbow sequence right in the middle of the other
four. This makes sense from a number of points of view. Black and Brown
naturally belong together as do Gray and White (light gray, anyway) and
these two pairs are naturally thought of as being at opposite ends of any
sequence. It places Green right in the middle (at 5) which is where we
normally think of Green as being. It also allows Black (the absence of
color) to be number 0 and White (the presence of all color) to be number 9.

By linking the resistor color code and the rainbow sequence, you have made
it so that if you remember one, you can construct the other. One little
game that I play is that when I find someone that does know the resistor
color code I ask them what the order of the rainbow is and it's amazing how
many people can't figure it out if they don't happen to know it by rote or
by ROY G. BIV (which most do). By the same token, when someone asks me what
the color code is - usually by asking me what the rest of the words in one
of the mnemonics is - I first ask them if they can recall the colors of the
rainbow (again, most can). If they say yes, then all I say is that the
resistor colors are in the same order except Black and Brown come first and
Gray and White come last. Their eyes usually show that something has
clicked and they never ask me again.

So how about the tolerance band? Easy. In the early days resistors the
cheapest resistors where the 20% resistors and since they had to be sold as
the cheapest is was decided to save the paint and not put a tolerance band
on them. Remember, I'm creating a fairy tale that places the resistor color
code in a meaningful context that makes it easy to build it up from scratch
even after years of not using it - I'm not claiming that the story is
accurate. For the better resistors they used silver to designate the 10%
and gold to designate the 5% since gold is more valuable than silver and 5%
resistors are more valuable than 10% resistors. When 2% resistors became
available they wanted to use platinum but knew people would confuse
platinum and silver too easily. So they chose red because red already was
associated with the number 2. For tighter tolerance resistors, they
determined that the color code wouldn't work anyway because too many bands
would be needed - so those values are actually printed on the resistor (and
1% and tighter resistors are valuable enough that it justifies the added
manufacturing expense of printing the numbers on the resistor - that's why
the numbers aren't printed on all resistors - again, it's a fairy tale).

The fairy tale above is long winded when it's written out, but it holds
together well enough that you can reconstruct the code in your mind very
quickly and be very confident that you got it right - unlike the case with
nearly all of the silly mnemonics that are around. As much as I hate to
admit it - they only mnemonic that I've every liked was the Bad Boys one -
because it's the only one that consists of a complete and meaningful
sentence where every word contributes meaningfully to the sentence and the
order of the words is integral to that meaning as well. This makes it flow
and easy to remember.

As a person that has a piss poor memory (hence why I majored in physics and
not chemistry even though chemistry always fascinated me - but physics
turned out pretty neat, too) and can't remember lists and facts by rote,
this fairy tale context served me well.

Magister <magi...@tecinfo.com> wrote in article
<01bd4926$de5f14c0$eb6b8fd0@magister>...

Trevor Day

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In article <01bd4926$de5f14c0$eb6b8fd0@magister>, Magister
<magi...@tecinfo.com> writes

>Big - Black (0)
>Brown - Brown (1)
>Rabbits - Red (2)
>Often - Orange (3)
>Yield - Yellow (4)
>Great - Green (5)
>Big - Blue (6)
>Vocal - Violet (7)
>Groans - Gray (8)
>When - White (9)
>Gingerly - Gold (5% tolerance)
>Slapped - Silver (10% tolerance)
How about this from the 1950's UK or thereabouts:

Bobby
Brown
Rushed
Out
Yelling
Gor
Blimey
Vera
Get
Weaving

Entered part way through the thread so hope this is not a repeat!
Trev ...-.-
--
Trevor Day

Abby and Bart

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I got this one from my High School Physics Teacher (a female BTW)

Bad Black
Boys Brow
Rape Red
Our Orange
Young Yellow
Girls Green
But Blue
Violet Violet
Gives Gray
Willingly White

John Stephen Patrick

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Mar 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/9/98
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You might also want to check out the Resistor FAQ I'm writing, located
at:

http://www.ecn.ou.edu/~jspatric/resistor.html

I've listed quite a few of the standard old mnemonics, as well as other
tidbits of info on resistors.

It's almost complete to version 1.0, yet I'm still too busy to finish it
right this second.

Mark Kinsler

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Mar 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/10/98
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The color code for resistors is arranged as it is so that if you mistake
one color for another, the error is minimized. For example, if orange is
mistaken for yellow, you're off by 1. Same if you mistake orange for red.
Or red for brown, or brown for black.

This isn't much help when the questionable band is the multiplier, and
there's been a tendency for Asian manufacturers to make a brown that looks
like violet. If you add in the fact that the colors on an overheated
resistor tend to change, or be completely obliterated, it's clear that the
color code is one lousy system and should have gone the way of color-coded
capacitors long ago. It's easy enough to letter the value of even a 1/8 W
resistor near its leads, which protect the lettering by acting as a
heat sink.

The resistor color code pleases the same folks who like secret handshakes
and fraternity rituals in that it tends to be a rite of passage in a lot
of trade schools and, I think, the military. It's thoroughly unnecessary
and I hope it is on its way out.

Mark Kinsler
who is glad they abolished the color code for all other devices, at
least.

--
.............................................................................
Interpretation and instruction in physical science and technology.
Athens, Ohio, USA. http://www.frognet.net/~kinsler

William L. Bahn

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Mar 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/10/98
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In general I don't have a big problem with your position, I only wish to
point out that color coded components do have one redeeming feature: When
you are working on a board you don't have to try to read component labels
that are face down against the board.

It's also a lot easier to look through a bunch of resistors (either in a
pile of loose components - like your "last chance" drawer, or in a sea of
components on a PCB) and find a particular value when your looking for a
particular color code as opposed to a particular text label - at least for
me.

Mark Kinsler wrote in message <6e504t$3...@froggy.frognet.net>...

Kevin C. Hastings

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Better Black
Be Brown
Right Red
Or Orange
Your Yellow
Great Green
Big Blue
Venture Violet
Goes Gray
Wrong White

Robert Allen

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98
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Yes, I used to teach high school electronics. Try this, Bad Boys Race Our
Young Girls Behind Victory Garden Walls. Don't think you'll get fired for
using it, but these days, who knows.
Bob

MCIGuy

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My Friends from Quebec always used: Bad Beer Rots Our Young Guts, But
Vodka Goes Well. Of course, you must say it with a mild French accent.


Robert Allen wrote in message <6e66lv$l...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...

Raymond W. Schlachter.

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GIVE IT A REST!!!!
Kevin C. Hastings wrote in message ...

William Panzone

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Bad Boys run on your grass but vivacious girls won't
Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Gray White
Get it there are others but I always remembered this one
Bill in Los Al>

Dan P. Dillon

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98
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Plain and simple- memorize it.

if you gotta make up a rhyme at first, that's good. If you intend to
know the stuff and use it regularly, you will eventually need to
be able to immediately
recognize what red is, or what brown is. you will off the top
of your head know what a brown-black-red is, or what a
orange-orange-brown is immediately.

Lemme ask a directly equivalent question: how do you
remember your phone number? How do you remember
what color your eyes are without using a mirror?

Jake

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Raymond W. Schlachter. <r...@idt.net> wrote in article
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Michael Black

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Yes, I've noticed that this thread does not seem to die.

I seem to recall keeping a color code chart handy back when it was all new
to me. Rather than memorize the color code, I just looked up the
resistors on the chart as I needed it. It didn't take long before I no
longer needed the chart. Twenty seven years later, sometimes I look at a
resistor, read the value, and then feel a need to verify it with a
ohmmeter, simply because my color code decoding works so easily that I
figure I must be making a mistake.

MIchael

Mike Tomlinson

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In article <6e952b$3...@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>, Raymond W. Schlachter.
<r...@idt.net> writes

>GIVE IT A REST!!!!

What's your problem? No-one's forcing you to read this thread!

... and stop SHOUTING!

C.A.S.

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*******************************************************

The color code is exactly the same sequence as the
colors in a rainbow, which are always in the same
order.. roygbv -- you still have to worry about
brown, gold and silver, tho --- --- Andy

Tom MacIntyre

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At LAST!!! Someone who simply uses the memory for these things. Is it
a forgotten ability? I hope NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't even talk to me
about calculators, etc. If my brain/eyes could decipher a 33.6
datastream, I wouldn't even have a computer!!!!!!! Seriously, the
brain needs SOME exercise for continued operation. 'Nuff said!

Reed Park

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
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Radio Shack (as well as others) used to sell a color code wheel.
I teach basic electronics to people who are interested in becoming
Hams for the local Ham Club. Last night I was reminded of this
wheel when one of the students brought one in.

VE1NU for the past 30 years
Regards
Reed

Matt J. McCullar

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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Reed Park wrote:
>
> Radio Shack (as well as others) used to sell a color code wheel.
> I teach basic electronics to people who are interested in becoming
> Hams for the local Ham Club. Last night I was reminded of this
> wheel when one of the students brought one in.

Oh, yeah, I remember that very well! My dad kept it in his resistor
drawer and he showed me how to read the color codes with it. I asked if
I could borrow it for school (I was in the third grade at the time), and
he said sure. Naturally, I lost it. Don't know to this day what
happened to it. I died a thousand deaths before I even got home,
because I thought it was a very expensive thing. Dad told me not to
worry about it, it only cost a quarter or something. :)

I've seen these wheels also at TV repair shops. If you get right down
to it, you can make your own quite easily. Just take a couple of sheets
of cardboard and some colored markers.

Matt J. McCullar, KJ5BA
Arlington, TX

Oldguyteck

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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Lets not stop there (hehe) my color wheel from Radio Shack not only has the resistor color codes for resistors BUT res/cap and on the other side it has the INDUCTOR color code,, I think I paid about.49 cents or maby that was $1.49 the price sticker is some what worn from being carried arround in my *OLD RCA/GE pocket saver hehe
Best to all...Ed...............(Oldguyteck)

--
"Old tecks never die - they just SPARK-AWAY" (colorful sparks that is)

Matt J. McCullar <sat...@isrc.net> wrote in article <350A62...@isrc.net>...

Blair Hogg

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On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:44:10 GMT, tmac...@highlander.cbnet.ns.ca (Tom
MacIntyre) wrote:

>At LAST!!! Someone who simply uses the memory for these things. Is it
>a forgotten ability? I hope NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't even talk to me
>about calculators, etc. If my brain/eyes could decipher a 33.6
>datastream, I wouldn't even have a computer!!!!!!! Seriously, the
>brain needs SOME exercise for continued operation. 'Nuff said!
>
>
>

>Michael Black <blac...@CAM.ORG> wrote:
>
>>Yes, I've noticed that this thread does not seem to die.
>
>>I seem to recall keeping a color code chart handy back when it was all new
>>to me. Rather than memorize the color code, I just looked up the
>>resistors on the chart as I needed it. It didn't take long before I no

>>longer needed the chart. Twenty seven years later, sometimes I look at a
>>resistor, read the value, and then feel a need to verify it with a
>>ohmmeter, simply because my color code decoding works so easily that I
>>figure I must be making a mistake.
>
>> MIchael
>
>
>
>

I don't bother remembering the resistor color code - I can't tell the
colors apart anyway!!! Once I was repairing a CB radio and put 1 Meg
resistors in for 1K - couldn't tell the difference. If they aren't
marked with numbers like the Mil RLR's and RNC's or separated into
marked bins I need an ohmeter to tell the values. Guess I shoulda
picked chemical engineering instead of electrical!

Blair

dave stoneburner

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
to DaveC

Here's the one I taught in College :

Bad black 0
Beer brown 1
Rots red 2
Our orange 3
Young yello 4
Guts green 5
But blue 6
Vodka violet 7
Goes grey 8
Well white 9

DaveC wrote:
>
> When I was in electronics school, I was taught a little ditty to remember
> the order of the resistor color code. The little "poem" involved racism
> and rape, if I remember correctly.
>
> I am reluctant to pass on this god-awful tradition to kids interested in
> electronics today. What memory tool are schools teaching now to help keep
> the color code straight?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Enjoy,
> Dave
> --
> Dave Carpenter
> Sound Logic

Larry Westfall

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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Color Wheel? I'm not sure if this has been posted yet this group has a
short life span on my ISP but here us a easy way to remimber the colors.

Bad Boys Rape Our Yung Girls But Violate Give Willingly.
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
blk brn red org yel grn blu viol gry white

Larry Westfall

David.Ra...@de.com.au

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In article <35127AA4...@netset.com>,

Larry Westfall <west...@netset.com> wrote:
>
> Color Wheel? I'm not sure if this has been posted yet this group has a
> short life span on my ISP but here us a easy way to remimber the colors.
>
> Bad Boys Rape Our Yung Girls But Violate Give Willingly.
> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
> blk brn red org yel grn blu viol gry white

Or:
Bill Brown Raped Our Young Gwen, Beautiful Virgin, Gone West


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Tom MacIntyre

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I've already replied to this trash, and I will again. As the father of
a young daughter, I object to this unnecessary language.

John E Freeman

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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Tom MacIntyre wrote:
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> I've already replied to this trash, and I will again. As the father of
> a young daughter, I object to this unnecessary language.
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If you object to the post so much, why did you repost it?
John

Mike Tomlinson

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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In article <6f0eg9$mbu$1...@nr1.ottawa.istar.net>, Tom MacIntyre <tmacinty@
highlander.cbnet.ns.ca> writes

>I've already replied to this trash, and I will again. As the father of
>a young daughter, I object to this unnecessary language.

Then use a newsreader that implements ratings, and learn to configure
it. You presumably control your daughter's access to the TV, so why
should it be any different for a computer?

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