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Brian Snyder

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???

The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Brian


Ken

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Brian Snyder wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
>
> The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
> I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.

You are fighting a losing battle !!!

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Boris Mohar

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:33:48 -0700, Brian Snyder <us...@technologist.com>
wrote:

>Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
>
>The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
>I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.
>

>Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>
>Brian


Try DUZALL flux from Esab group inc. Tel 800 638-1647
or http://www.esab.com/esabna.html

I have used it successors on stainless but iI just do not know what kind of
stainless it was. Try silver solder also.


Regards

Boris Mohar

VIATRACK printed circuit designs

Tom Maier

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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Brian Snyder <us...@technologist.com> wrote:

>Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
>
>The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
>I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>

If you are just trying to make a ground connection or
something like that then consider just drilling a hole
in the steel, installing a nut and bolt and solder tab
and lock washer through the hole, and then use the
solder tab as your connection.

Tom


Tom Biasi

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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Hi Brian,
I do it all the time. (Beer brewing a hobby)
You need silver solder with silver solder flux and more heat. the SS needs
to be very clean.
Good Luck,
Tom

Brian Snyder wrote in message <381A752C...@technologist.com>...


>Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
>
>The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
>I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>

>Brian
>

Henrik Ijäs

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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Brian Snyder <us...@technologist.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:381A752C...@technologist.com...

> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
>
> The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
> I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>
> Brian
>
what is stainless steal?


William L. Bahn

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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It can be done, but it is not easy. Use a paste flux, there isn't enough
flux in a core solder. You might try using a good acid paste flux. There are
fluxes specifically made for stainless steel. Are you soldering stainless to
stainless? It is important to get the temperature up high enough and if the
piece of steel you are soldering to is very large (as in even several square
inches) that can be difficult - often times a gas/oxy torch is needed (which
makes it pretty easy).

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William L. Bahn

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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In general you don't need silver solder. For plumbing and food applications
(like beer brewing) you would need it because you must use lead-free solder.
But for mechanical components lead-based solder works fine.

Tom Biasi wrote in message <7vf1bj$efe$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...


>Hi Brian,
>I do it all the time. (Beer brewing a hobby)
>You need silver solder with silver solder flux and more heat. the SS needs
>to be very clean.
>Good Luck,
>Tom
>

Tom MacIntyre

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:55:15 GMT, "Henrik Ijäs"
<henri...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:

>
>Brian Snyder <us...@technologist.com> kirjoitti
>viestissä:381A752C...@technologist.com...

>> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
>>
>> The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
>> I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>>
>> Brian
>>

>what is stainless steal?
>
>On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:09:39 GMT, "Henrik Ijäs" <henri...@pp.inet.fi>
>wrote:

>if u don´t know change hobby.
>
<g>

Tom

Greg

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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> >Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
> >
> >The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
> >I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.
> >
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated,

You can use regular acid core plumbing solder and a propane torch.
The thing is to get the steel just hot enough for the solder to flow
and adhere. If it gets too hot, the solder "unwets" and rolls right
off.

I've soldered stainless to stainless several times, and the right
temperature seems to be just above where the melted solder turns into
a paste. Once you have solder on the stainless, add more to make
whatever joint you're soldering- but make sure you're only melting the
surface of the solder you've already deposited. Too much heat, and
the whole pile melts and pours right off the joint. Wear long pants!

I used sandpaper to get the surface clean and rough, and plain old
plumbing flux. The key seemed to be getting the right temperature on
the stainless.

Gregm

Chris

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:43:13 GMT, tmac...@ns.sympatico.ca (Tom MacIntyre)
wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:55:15 GMT, "Henrik Ijäs"
><henri...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:
>
>>
>>Brian Snyder <us...@technologist.com> kirjoitti
>>viestissä:381A752C...@technologist.com...

>>> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???
>>>
>>> The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
>>> I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.
>>>
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>>>

>>> Brian
>>>
>>what is stainless steal?
>>
>>On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:09:39 GMT, "Henrik Ijäs" <henri...@pp.inet.fi>
>>wrote:
>
>>if u don´t know change hobby.
>>
><g>
>
>Tom

Nice one, Tom :)

Chris

Brian Snyder

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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I only need to solder the leads of a small transistor to a piece of
T304 Stainless. Would it be better to use a mini spot welder????

Thanks a lot for all the great input!!

Brian


Greg

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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> I only need to solder the leads of a small transistor to a piece of
> T304 Stainless. Would it be better to use a mini spot welder????
>
> Thanks a lot for all the great input!!

It might be easier to drill & tap a stud (if thick stainless), or use
a nut& bolt if thin- or solder a lug onto the stainless if a bolt is
impractable. Or, solder a screw onto the stainless, which receives a
lug & nut.

From the experience I had soldering to stainless, the process would
quickly destroy electronic parts.

Gregm

John Popelish

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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Brian Snyder wrote:
>
> I only need to solder the leads of a small transistor to a piece of
> T304 Stainless. Would it be better to use a mini spot welder????
>
> Thanks a lot for all the great input!!
>
> Brian

If I needed a small solderable spot on stainless, I think I would apply
a dot of silver solder (with silver solder flux and a torch) and then
use regular tin-lead solder to attach the lead to that spot. To do
this, you may have to put some flux on a piece of wet-or-dry sandpaper,
and abrade the steel while it is covered with flux, before heating.

Spot welding might work if the transistor leads are a steel alloy
(common when transistors were in metal cans) but many transistor leads
are copper alloy punched frames, now. I think all transistor leads are
designed to be soldered.

John Popelish

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Nov 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/3/99
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Tom Maier wrote:

> Brian Snyder <us...@technologist.com> wrote:

> >Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???

> >The solder dosen't want to stick??? Is there a special type of flux that
> >I need to use or am I fighting a losing battle.

> >Any help would be greatly appreciated,

> If you are just trying to make a ground connection or
> something like that then consider just drilling a hole
> in the steel, installing a nut and bolt and solder tab
> and lock washer through the hole, and then use the
> solder tab as your connection.

If you're going to drill SS, you should use a carbide tipped drill. If
you don't, you're liable to burn up the drill. Stuff is TUFF!

There is a fluoride based flux that will allow you to solder to SS and
aluminum, but I forget what the name was.


> Tom

Charles W. Shults III

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Nov 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/4/99
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NO SPAM wrote:

> Tom Maier wrote:
>
> > Brian Snyder <us...@technologist.com> wrote:
>
> > >Can anyone tell me if it's possible to solder to T304 stainless steel???

> <snip>

> There is a fluoride based flux that will allow you to solder to SS and
> aluminum, but I forget what the name was.
>
> > Tom

While the solder and flux is important, the most important thing is to make
sure the surface of
the metal is -clean-. Use a fine emery cloth to rough it up well, then clean
it with a solvent such
as alcohol or acetone. Standard 63/37 eutectic solder will work with the
proper flux. I've even
had pretty good luck with Ersin and rosin core.

Cheers!

Chip Shults

Alex Meaden

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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you thickhead. and its steEl, not steAl.

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