Need help identifying 8 pin DIP used in Plasma PS PLEASE.
jango2
Symptom : High frequency buzz from PS
3 diodes found shorted , replaced, buzz persists.
TV worked fine otherwise from start.
Fault traced to this 8 pin dip smd IC with these no.s printed on it;
2A06810
5522 (MOTOROLA SYMBOL)
No prefix before 5522.
I plucked out this IC from another working 50" Hitachi plasma to
confirm fault.
The no.printed on the working IC is;
2A06905
5522 (MOTOROLA SYMBOL)
Since the IC worked flawlessly on replacement i'm guessing the actual
no. is 5522.
The IC seems to be some kind of pwm controller, it feeds the Mosfets
which drive the serial output transformer, and receives inputs from
feedback winding on the primary side of the SRT and from the
optocouplers.
The Motorola semiconductor site provides no info, maybe this is
supplied OE to Murata who supplies it's PS OE to Hitachi. Again , no
schematic for the PS in the Hitachi service manual.They love us so
much they want us to replace the entire board.
Any idea what the prefix might be and where i can find a datasheet for
the device?
Jango
PlainBill
It's a relatively simple process. Since this is an SMD part, the
numbers probably are the marking code. This is an somewhat arbitrary
number assigned by the manufacturer. In this case, I would suspect
2A06 might identify the product and the last three digits are the date
code.
There are three approaches. The first is cheating: Consult the
service manual. I note that it is available on
http://www.free-service-manuals.com/ by either supplying a schematic
they don't have or by paying $5 for a 1 month subscription.
A second approach is to identify the function of the IC (probably a
voltage regulator) and it's exact package. Then search the Motorola
data sheets looking for voltage regulators available in that package
and using a marking code of either 2A0xxxx or 5522.
The third approach would be to use http://www.alldatasheet.com/ to
search for part numbers containing either of the above numbers.
I'm cheap, but I'd still spend the $5.
PlainBill
Franc Zabkar
>Fault traced to this 8 pin dip smd IC with these no.s printed on it;
>2A06810
>5522 (MOTOROLA SYMBOL)
I thought Motorola's semiconductor division was spun off into ON
Semiconductor.
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
JerryM
>
> I thought Motorola's semiconductor division was spun off into ON
> Semiconductor.
>
Nearly everything that used to be Motorola has been spun off.
"Motorola - Reducing Our Way to Greatness!"
Sorry to be OT, but I couldn't help myself.
Jerry
(Worked for Motorola's Government Electronics Group, spun off to
General Dynamics in 2001. There, I feel better now.)
jango2
> they don't have or by paying $5 for a 1 month subscription.
>
> A second approach is to identify the function of the IC (probably a
> voltage regulator) and it's exact package. Then search the Motorola
> data sheets looking for voltage regulators available in that package
> and using a marking code of either 2A0xxxx or 5522.
>
> The third approach would be to usehttp://www.alldatasheet.com/to
> search for part numbers containing either of the above numbers.
>
> I'm cheap, but I'd still spend the $5.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks for taking time to reply Bill,
I have the service manual, as usual the power supply schemafic and
parts list are excluded. They call it "basic schematic".
Searching for 2A06 leads me to an axial diode. One UED search reslust
lists 2A06 as a "UED IC + transistors". I havent a clue what that
means, to the best of my knowledge UED sells spares , they dont
manufacture.
Went hrough alldatasheet and simllar websites , came up with nothing.
I decided to trace the schematic a bit further and for this mysterious
8 pin S08 device and came to the following coclusions;
Pin 1 is an input, decoupled to ground and receives inpus from the
emitter of a transistor and an optocoupler's emitter via a 3k3
resistor
Pin 2 is an input receiving voltage from another optocoupler's
collector.
Pin 3 has a series 10 ohm resistor in series with a string of 2 diodes
in series to ground, which have a string of two 0.1 ohm resistors in
series across them.The emitter of a 2SD2012 power transistor also
connects to the diode - 10 ohm junction (some kinda current sensing
input????)
Pin 4 is ground
Pin 5 is the output and fires the gate of the main MOSFET.
Pin 6 has a small electrolytic condensor to ground and a small smd cap
to ground.(some reset, offset null or OE pin held quiet???)
Pin 7 is not connected.
Pin 8 is supply.
Who am I?
The moment i saw pin 8 vcc and pin 4 ground i was ecstatic and thought
hey this could be an op amp, so i put in a 1458 and she smoked a bit ,
the set wouldnt start. So i guess we can rule out standard op amps.
Jango :(
Bob Larter
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 05:27:59 -0700 (PDT), jango2
> <crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>> Fault traced to this 8 pin dip smd IC with these no.s printed on it;
>> 2A06810
>> 5522 (MOTOROLA SYMBOL)
>
> I thought Motorola's semiconductor division was spun off into ON
> Semiconductor.
Yep. <http://www.onsemi.com/>
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
jango2
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 05:27:59 -0700 (PDT), jango2
>
> >Fault traced to this 8 pin dip smd IC with these no.s printed on it;
> >2A06810
> >5522 (MOTOROLA SYMBOL)
>
> I thought Motorola's semiconductor division was spun off into ON
> Semiconductor.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Hang on , i just discovered the logo on the IC belongs to Murata.
Looks pretty similar to the Motorola M within a circle, except this
one's more like a small M within a larger C. Thanks Franc.
Seems unlikely they'll share any datasheet info but i'm going to
check. Seems unlikely they'll sell spares, i'm doomed :( , all this
time wasted. They make ICs???????
Bob Larter
Maybe it's a filter?
jango2
>
> - Show quoted text -
Nah, just went through muratas SMD BLOCK TYPE EMI SUPPRESSION FILTERS
CATALOGUE, nothing in a SO8 package there. Had an online cat with a
customer rep, she said she'd mail me after she researches the info.
She did state that "Sopheap Sear: I believe the first one is the date
code." ie 2A06810, so 5522 would be the part no.
Jango
PlainBill
I don't fully grasp the partial schematic you describe, but it screams
'pulse width modulated voltage regulator with external transistor'.
PlainBill
jango2
Hey guys please take a look at the MC44608 datsheet here
http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/MC44608-D.PDF
Think this might be it? Pin 2 and 3 seem to be interchanged. Think i
might be able to use this as a substitute?
jango2
> Think this might be it? Pin 2 and 3 seem to be interchanged. Think i
>
> - Show quoted text -
I found a vestel plasma service manual with ps schematics;
http://www.wimtv.be/techniforum/files/vestel_plasma_service_manual.pdf
Oh wait, this ones an even closer match, NCP1200, ON SEMICONDUCTOR
http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/NCP1200-D.PDF
Your precious feedback pleeeeeeeease
Franc Zabkar
<crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>On May 15, 2:14�am, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 May 2009 05:27:59 -0700 (PDT), jango2
>> <crow_slap...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>> >Fault traced to this 8 pin dip smd IC with these no.s printed on it;
>> >2A06810
>> >5522 �(MOTOROLA SYMBOL)
>>
>> I thought Motorola's semiconductor division was spun off into ON
>> Semiconductor.
>Hang on , i just discovered the logo on the IC belongs to Murata.
>Looks pretty similar to the Motorola M within a circle, except this
>one's more like a small M within a larger C.
Like this one?
https://www.wellgainelectronics.com/ProductImages/filter/MURATA-SFE4.5MB%2089.5K+35+3+500%20W3.JPG
>Seems unlikely they'll share any datasheet info but i'm going to
>check. Seems unlikely they'll sell spares, i'm doomed :( , all this
>time wasted. They make ICs???????
They appear to make PSUs:
http://www.murata.com/products/catalog/pdf/k99/k99e_pwer_01.pdf
Maybe someone else makes/designs their ICs?
I tried a part number search for parts containing "5522" but came up
empty. :-(
Franc Zabkar
<crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>> > >I decided to trace the schematic a bit further and for this mysterious
>> > >8 pin S08 device and came to the following coclusions;
>> > >Pin 1 is an input, decoupled to ground and receives inpus from the
>> > >emitter of a transistor and an optocoupler's emitter via a 3k3
>> > >resistor
>> > >Pin 2 is an input receiving voltage from another optocoupler's
>> > >collector.
>> > >Pin 3 has a series 10 ohm resistor in series with a string of 2 diodes
>> > >in series to ground, which have a string of two 0.1 ohm resistors in
>> > >series across them.The emitter of a 2SD2012 power transistor also
>> > >connects to the diode - 10 ohm junction (some kinda current sensing
>> > >input????)
>> > >Pin 4 is ground
>> > >Pin 5 is the output and fires the gate of the main MOSFET.
>> > >Pin 6 has a small electrolytic condensor to ground and a small smd cap
>> > >to ground.(some reset, offset null or OE pin held quiet???)
>> > >Pin 7 is not connected.
>> > >Pin 8 is supply.
>> > >Who am I?
>> Hey guys please take a look at the MC44608 datsheet herehttp://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/MC44608-D.PDF
>> Think this might be it? Pin 2 and 3 seem to be interchanged. Think i
>> might be able to use this as a substitute?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I found a vestel plasma service manual with ps schematics;
>http://www.wimtv.be/techniforum/files/vestel_plasma_service_manual.pdf
>
>Oh wait, this ones an even closer match, NCP1200, ON SEMICONDUCTOR
>http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/NCP1200-D.PDF
>Your precious feedback pleeeeeeeease
What bothers me most is why the IC is sensing the current in a 60V
2SD2012 power transistor when one would expect it to be sensing the
current in the MOSFET. I'd do a bit more tracing and find out what the
transistor is doing.
I'd also use your good PSU to find out the actual switching frequency.
The NCP1200 has three versions, 40kHz, 60kHz, and 100kHz. I would
think that the magnetics would be optimised for a particular
frequency.
jango2
> On Sat, 16 May 2009 06:52:08 -0700 (PDT), jango2
>
> - Show quoted text -
"Like this one?
https://www.wellgainelectronics.com/ProductImages/filter/MURATA-SFE4...".
Yep Franc , that's the symbol and all the Hitachi Plasma power
supplies i've seen are made by Murata.
"Maybe someone else makes/designs their ICs?"
Exactly, I'm thinking On Semi does.
I'll trace further around the NPN on monday, The good PSU belonged to
a 50" and that was delivered yesterday. Came in for blown lower panel
driver, had to replace entire pcb due to inavailablility of
replacement driver chip. Strangely NCP 1206 is excluded from On semis
datasheets, they have a 1205 and a 1207, i smell a rat, the actual
part i'm seeking has 2A06 printed on it. 2A06810 , you think the 10
might indicate 100kHz?
Thanks for your time Framc :)
Jango.
Franc Zabkar
<crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>I'll trace further around the NPN on monday, The good PSU belonged to
>a 50" and that was delivered yesterday. Came in for blown lower panel
>driver, had to replace entire pcb due to inavailablility of
>replacement driver chip. Strangely NCP 1206 is excluded from On semis
>datasheets, they have a 1205 and a 1207, i smell a rat, the actual
>part i'm seeking has 2A06 printed on it. 2A06810 , you think the 10
>might indicate 100kHz?
I don't think so. The other IC had 2A06905 printed on it. That would
suggest that the last three digits may be part of a date code or batch
code.
If you know when the two sets were manufactured, then you may be able
to decipher the date codes. The date codes on the other chips may also
give you a clue, especially if they follow a similar format. AFAICT
the subject model was released in late 2006 or early 2007, so maybe
the "06" refers to 2006. If "2A" is also part of the date, then I'd
suspect a Japanese manufacturer. BTW, Renesas (Hitachi) do manufacture
PWM controllers, but I couldn't find a suitable part on their web
site. You might want to look for yourself, though, if the NCP1200
turns out to be unsuitable.
Franc Zabkar
<crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Hitachi 42PD9500TA Plasma TV.
>Symptom : High frequency buzz from PS
>3 diodes found shorted , replaced, buzz persists.
>TV worked fine otherwise from start.
>Fault traced to this 8 pin dip smd IC with these no.s printed on it;
>2A06810
>5522
I feel certain that your mystery part is a Fuji FA5522N, whatever it
is.
See this document:
http://www.fujielectric.co.jp/company/jihou_archives/pdf/78-01/FEJ-78-01-072-2005.pdf
See the photo on page 75 (4 of 6).
It shows the 5516, 5517, and 5518 parts. Their date/batch codes are
2A04ES9 (or 2AD4ES9 ?) and 1H04ES9.
I found several hits for the following parts:
FA5522N-A2-TE1, FAIRCHILD, 2007, SOP 8L
FUJI -FA5522N-A2-TE1
FA5518N-H1-TE1, FUJI, 2006
FA5518N-A2-TE1, FUJI
It seems that the various suppliers aren't sure whether the part is
made by Fuji or Fairchild. AFAICT, Fairchild's parts use an "FAN"
prefix.
FWIW, here is the datasheet for Fuji Semiconductor's FA551X series PWM
type switching power supply control ICs.
FA5510P (N), FA5511P (N), FA5514P (N), FA5515P (N):
http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/pdf/B0401031.pdf
Application note for FA5516/5517/5518:
http://www.fujielectric.co.jp/fdt/scd/pdf/IC/AJ_FA5516-18.pdf
Franc Zabkar
<fza...@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>I feel certain that your mystery part is a Fuji FA5522N, whatever it
>is.
Here are more documents that may help. Page 9 of the "part number
explanation" associates the "55" with an AC/DC converter controller.
http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/old_pdf/app_notes/FA5516_5517_5518_Application_Note.pdf
http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/old_pdf/app_notes/FA5531_Application_Note.pdf
http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/old_pdf/app_notes/part_number_evplanation.pdf
There is an email address at this URL:
http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/
jango2
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 06:09:01 +1000, Franc Zabkar
>
> >I feel certain that your mystery part is a Fuji FA5522N, whatever it
> >is.
>
> Here are more documents that may help. Page 9 of the "part number
> explanation" associates the "55" with an AC/DC converter controller.
>
>
> There is an email address at this URL:http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Thanks once again franc,
I can't find a datasheet for FA5522. I'm not at work yet, need to
relook at FA5516/7/8 as the closest match so far. Pin 7 is NC too.
I checked below the mystery IC and it has "Japan" embossed on it
So that would mean Fuji Japan made this for Murata and even printed
their logo on it, withheld datasheet as it's OE.
Hmm will revert back by evening and will even check for local
availability of FA5516/7/8. I have to probe into the 2sd2012 mystery
too,
Trace that section further. I will report discrepancies then.
Thank You
Jango
Franc Zabkar
<crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>On May 18, 1:27�am, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 May 2009 06:09:01 +1000, Franc Zabkar
>> <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>> >I feel certain that your mystery part is a Fuji FA5522N, whatever it
>> >is.
>>
>> Here are more documents that may help. Page 9 of the "part number
>> explanation" associates the "55" with an AC/DC converter controller.
>>
>> http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/old_pdf/app_notes/FA5516_5517_5518_A...http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/old_pdf/app_notes/FA5531_Application...http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/old_pdf/app_notes/part_number_evplan...
>>
>> There is an email address at this URL:http://www.fujisemiconductor.com/
>I can't find a datasheet for FA5522. I'm not at work yet, need to
>relook at FA5516/7/8 as the closest match so far. Pin 7 is NC too.
The FA551x parts don't match your pinout discoveries, so I wouldn't
use them. I just cited them for comparison purposes.
>I checked below the mystery IC and it has "Japan" embossed on it
It would have helped me a great deal to have known that ...
>So that would mean Fuji Japan made this for Murata and even printed
>their logo on it, withheld datasheet as it's OE.
>Hmm will revert back by evening and will even check for local
>availability of FA5516/7/8. I have to probe into the 2sd2012 mystery
>too,
>Trace that section further. I will report discrepancies then.
I don't understand why a 60V audio frequency power transistor would be
used on the primary side of a high frequency switchmode PSU.
I notice that the mains rating of this TV is AC 110-240V (50/60Hz), so
maybe it uses active PFC to boost the voltage on the bulk capacitor to
around 380V. AIUI, this would require a high voltage power
transistor/MOSFET to switch a coil on and off during each mains
half-cycle. The transistor/MOSFET would only need to be rated for low
frequency use. The FA5522N part doesn't seem to have enough pins to
implement APFC, so I would expect that there must be another IC in the
PSU.
Is there any chance you could upload a photo of the PSU to a file
sharing service?
BTW, you can determine the switchmode frequency by monitoring the
anode of any rectifier diode on the secondary winding. You don't need
to risk probing on the primary side.
jango2
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 01:19:48 -0700 (PDT), jango2
>
> >On May 18, 1:27 am, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 May 2009 06:09:01 +1000, Franc Zabkar
> >> <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >> >I feel certain that your mystery part is a Fuji FA5522N, whatever it
> >> >is.
>
> >> Here are more documents that may help. Page 9 of the "part number
> >> explanation" associates the "55" with an AC/DC converter controller.
>
Feedback winding on hot side of transformer drives the collector of
2SD2012 via a series diode (pf value cap across), emitter of the
transistor feeds supply to pin 6 of mystery ic (which is vcc of
FA5516/7/8 too) base-emitter resistor 2k2 ohms, emitter to ground
reverse biased diode, another reverse biased diode across C-E. A
common base config transistor acting as a voltage regulator?
"The FA551x parts don't match your pinout discoveries, so I wouldn't
use them. I just cited them for comparison purposes."
They do only if you're looking at the FA5516/7/8 pdf and not the
FA551X datasheet. I see a perfect match. No discrepancies.
"The FA5522N part doesn't seem to have enough pins to implement APFC,
so I would expect that there must be another IC in the PSU."
Bang on! The plot thickens, guess what?, A Fuji FA5502P/M power factor
correction IC mounted on a small glass epoxy pcb labelled PCPF0159
with a Murata logo on it. Only this time they didnt remove the FE logo
on the ic. PFC achieved by that and two 2SK3528 and a huge transformer
shaped inductor.
"BTW, you can determine the switchmode frequency by monitoring the
> anode of any rectifier diode on the secondary winding. You don't need
> to risk probing on the primary side."
The oscillator totally whacked out of sync, hence the irritating
buzz. :(
3 images uploaded to
http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/jango_2/?action=view¤t=MPF7437L.jpg
Thanks Franc,
Franc Zabkar
<crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>On May 18, 2:01�pm, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>"I don't understand why a 60V audio frequency power transistor would
>be used on the primary side of a high frequency switchmode PSU."
>Feedback winding on hot side of transformer drives the collector of
>2SD2012 via a series diode (pf value cap across), emitter of the
>transistor feeds supply to pin 6 of mystery ic (which is vcc of
>FA5516/7/8 too) base-emitter resistor 2k2 ohms, emitter to ground
>reverse biased diode, another reverse biased diode across C-E. A
>common base config transistor acting as a voltage regulator?
I think so, but there would have to be a zener diode connected to the
base. See your Vestel plasma TV circuit (page 65). I still don't see
why you need a 3A power transistor to supply this IC, though.
BTW, in an earlier post it appeared that you were saying that the
emitter of the 2SD2012 was connected to the current sense input on pin
3. Are you sure pin 3 is not sensing the MOSFET current?
>"The FA551x parts don't match your pinout discoveries, so I wouldn't
>use them. I just cited them for comparison purposes."
>They do only if you're looking at the FA5516/7/8 pdf and not the
>FA551X datasheet. I see a perfect match. No discrepancies.
Yes, you're right ... if pin 3 is sensing the current in the MOSFET. I
also thought that pin 1 may not have matched. It appears that the only
difference between the FA5516/7/8 parts is their switching frequency
-- 130kHz/100kHz/60kHz. I wonder what is different about the FA5522?
Frequency? Supply voltage?
In any case, the FA5516/7/8 parts don't seem to be any easier to find.
Searching here ...
http://www.usbid.com/search/AddPartNoLogin_action.cfm
... finds a US supplier for the FA5522N but the minimum order is $300.
Maybe if you begged ...
Alternatively a broker named Patrick Cheung used to offer parts in
single quantities to members of the sci.electronics community:
http://www.townt.com/towne/
>"The FA5522N part doesn't seem to have enough pins to implement APFC,
>so I would expect that there must be another IC in the PSU."
>Bang on! The plot thickens, guess what?, A Fuji FA5502P/M power factor
>correction IC mounted on a small glass epoxy pcb labelled PCPF0159
>with a Murata logo on it. Only this time they didnt remove the FE logo
>on the ic. PFC achieved by that and two 2SK3528 and a huge transformer
>shaped inductor.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
This URL could have saved us a lot of grief:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://monitor.net.ru/forum/hitachi-42pd9800ta-info-281069.html
The OP blames C102 (101, 2kV) for the "whole tragedy", so it might be
worth checking/replacing.
>"BTW, you can determine the switchmode frequency by monitoring the
>> anode of any rectifier diode on the secondary winding. You don't need
>> to risk probing on the primary side."
>The oscillator totally whacked out of sync, hence the irritating
>buzz. :(
I thought you still had a good TV to take measurements from.
>3 images uploaded to
> http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/jango_2/?action=view¤t=MPF7437L.jpg
More photos:
http://monitor.net.ru/forum/files/__________________dsc00003_139.jpg
http://monitor.net.ru/forum/files/__________________dsc00010_147.jpg
http://monitor.net.ru/forum/files/__________________dsc00004_351.jpg
In future may I suggest that you post direct links to your photos.
That way we don't have to suffer the ads and banners.
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/jango_2/MPF7437L.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/jango_2/Image002.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/jango_2/Image001.jpg
jango2
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 06:30:31 -0700 (PDT), jango2
>
> The OP blames C102 (101, 2kV) for the "whole tragedy", so it might be
> worth checking/replacing.
>
> >"BTW, you can determine the switchmode frequency by monitoring the
> >> anode of any rectifier diode on the secondary winding. You don't need
> >> to risk probing on the primary side."
> >The oscillator totally whacked out of sync, hence the irritating
> >buzz. :(
>
> I thought you still had a good TV to take measurements from.
>
> >3 images uploaded to
>
> More photos:http://monitor.net.ru/forum/files/__________________dsc00003_139.jpghttp://monitor.net.ru/forum/files/__________________dsc00010_147.jpghttp://monitor.net.ru/forum/files/__________________dsc00004_351.jpg
>
> In future may I suggest that you post direct links to your photos.
> That way we don't have to suffer the ads and banners.
>
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Hi Franc,
BTW, in an earlier post it appeared that you were saying that the
> emitter of the 2SD2012 was connected to the current sense input on pin
> 3. Are you sure pin 3 is not sensing the MOSFET current?
Sorry pin 6 of the ic connects to pin 3 of the vertcal pcb, my bad , i
got confused.
Alternatively a broker named Patrick Cheung used to offer parts in
> single quantities to members of the sci.electronics community:
> http://www.townt.com/towne/
It's quite tough deciphering that page, it's all in chinese....I just
posted requirement on hobid.
Rather uncanny that a bloke in Russia was working on the same model at
the same time and scratching
his head about the same ic....
Will post individual links for pics in future, thx for the pointer.
The working set was delivered ,
cant use that for any kind of reference now.
Thanks for all the help Franc, You're an asset to this forum and
planet :)
Cheers!
jango2
Would this be the same part?
Nothing showed up on the townt website.
Have posted requests everywhere including usbid.
I'm not quitting easy.
I will see this through.
Franc Zabkar
<crow_s...@yahoo.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>FA5522N-A2-TE1
>Would this be the same part?
I don't know.
FWIW, suppliers also list the FA5518N-A2-TE1 part.
Franc Zabkar
>Nothing showed up on the townt website.
Try emailing him directly:
patrick.cheung at towntarget dot com dot hk
Franc Zabkar
I notice that B&D Enterprises stock some FA55xx parts. Maybe they
could order the FA5522N part for you ???
http://www.bdent.com/search/search.jsp?contains=FA55&category=ALL&submit.search=Search%21
FWIW, here is a "Fuji AC-DC IC Series brochure":
http://www.asuntech.cn/upFile/7521153641.pdf
... and a Fuji SMPS devices brochure:
http://www.indel.com/downloads/fuji_smps_devices.pdf
There are FA5530/5531/5532 and FA5540/5541/5542 parts. They are
described as quasi-resonant ICs.
Here is a spec sheet for the FA5530/31/32 parts:
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf-datasheets/Datasheets-12/DSA-232154.pdf
Here is an app note for the FA5540/41/42:
http://www.fujisemicon-elis.com/en/download.cfm?pdf_file=F0400460.pdf&parts=FA5542&grp_code=91702&grp_name=For%20AC%2FDC&fe_parts=
The FA5532 and FA5542 are spec'ed for 120kHz/130kHz operation.
Therefore I suspect that the FA5522 is also a 120kHz/130kHz part.
FWIW the FA5520 is a 5-pin IC:
http://www.fujielectric.com/company/tech/pdf/r49-3/01.pdf
http://www.fujielectric.com/company/tech/pdf/r49-3/r49-3.pdf
The FA553x parts specify "linearly changed frequency at light load",
whereas the FA554x parts specify "intermittent switching at light
load".
This is Fuji's datasheet site:
http://www.fujisemicon-elis.com/en/
FWIW the FA5542 part is listed as still available. Maybe it would be
worth a gamble ???
The FA557x parts may be worth a look, too:
http://www.fujisemicon-elis.com/en/download.cfm?pdf_file=B0402298.pdf&parts=FA5571&grp_code=91702&grp_name=For%20AC%2FDC&fe_parts=
You might also like to search for ...
FA5502 filetype:pdf
Maybe you will find a service manual for a device that uses this APFC
IC in conjunction with another Fuji part.
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that you need to find out whether
the FA5522 is "current mode" or "quasi-resonant". The difference
appears to be that pin 1 is either CS (soft start/latch-mode stop) or
ZCD (zero current detect). Maybe you should do some tracing around
that pin and consult the application examples.