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jbri...@ventanamed.com

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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I know WD-40 is a big no-no in alot of cases But has anybody tried Marvel
Mystery Oil for those areas needing a light lubricant? I tried it and it seems
to work very well.
John B

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handy

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On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:53:18 GMT, jbri...@ventanamed.com wrote:

>
>
> I know WD-40 is a big no-no in alot of cases But has anybody tried Marvel
>Mystery Oil for those areas needing a light lubricant? I tried it and it seems
>to work very well.
> John B
>

Well one day I tried just about everything to get a vcr going and
decided there wasn't much to lose so I sprayed all the insides with
WD40 but not the drum and that vcr has been working fine for 9 years.

Lenny

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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I don't believe it. Brake fluid, maybe. Lenny Stein

John R. Hepburn

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handy wrote in message <36dd040c...@news.redshift.com>...

>On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:53:18 GMT, jbri...@ventanamed.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I know WD-40 is a big no-no in alot of cases But has anybody tried Marvel
>>Mystery Oil for those areas needing a light lubricant? I tried it and it
seems
>>to work very well.
>> John B
>>
>
>Well one day I tried just about everything to get a vcr going and
>decided there wasn't much to lose so I sprayed all the insides with
>WD40 but not the drum and that vcr has been working fine for 9 years.

Yes, the opto's under the take up reel just love it, not to mention how much
it helps those felt clutches maintain proper torque.......well that one
really does not matter after a while since it does a nice job of turning
it's glue into goo,which does not matter that much since back tension
devices work just as well running on their metal or plastic bands.

You are forgetting one thing past all that Handy. If it gets on the cassette
housing, eventually it will migrate to the tape. I had a customer last week
who had a tape that was rapped around the video drum. After extacting the
tape I found just a trace of WD-40 on the tape and the cassette lid
(distinct smell). Well there was no sign of it in the machine and it was a
rental tape. He just picked up his machine today (new video drum) and he
mentioned that he would like to find out who the previous renter of the tape
was. I do not think he feels that he was all that handy.

Call me old fashioned but I only use mine on rusty metal and fishing lures.

John R. Hepburn
John's Electronic Services
Jhep...@recorder.ca


handy

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:44:38 -0500, "John R. Hepburn"
<jhep...@recorder.ca> wrote:

>tape I found just a trace of WD-40 on the tape and the cassette lid
>(distinct smell). Well there was no sign of it in the machine and it was a
>rental tape. He just picked up his machine today (new video drum) and he
>mentioned that he would like to find out who the previous renter of the tape
>was. I do not think he feels that he was all that handy.
>


Heh, as I said that was in my beginning days of vcr's at home. Also,
that vcr is still going just fine today, 9 years later.

John MacGrath

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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WD-40? hahaha... i have tottaled many vcr's with people just "spraying". Not
a good idea to use it at all!!!
John R. Hepburn wrote in message ...

>
>handy wrote in message <36dd040c...@news.redshift.com>...
>>On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:53:18 GMT, jbri...@ventanamed.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know WD-40 is a big no-no in alot of cases But has anybody tried
Marvel
>>>Mystery Oil for those areas needing a light lubricant? I tried it and it
>seems
>>>to work very well.
>>> John B
>>>
>>
>>Well one day I tried just about everything to get a vcr going and
>>decided there wasn't much to lose so I sprayed all the insides with
>>WD40 but not the drum and that vcr has been working fine for 9 years.
>
>
>
>Yes, the opto's under the take up reel just love it, not to mention how
much
>it helps those felt clutches maintain proper torque.......well that one
>really does not matter after a while since it does a nice job of turning
>it's glue into goo,which does not matter that much since back tension
>devices work just as well running on their metal or plastic bands.
>
>You are forgetting one thing past all that Handy. If it gets on the
cassette
>housing, eventually it will migrate to the tape. I had a customer last week
>who had a tape that was rapped around the video drum. After extacting the
>tape I found just a trace of WD-40 on the tape and the cassette lid
>(distinct smell). Well there was no sign of it in the machine and it was a
>rental tape. He just picked up his machine today (new video drum) and he
>mentioned that he would like to find out who the previous renter of the
tape
>was. I do not think he feels that he was all that handy.
>

TVan9677

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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In article <7bna1h$ldb$1...@news1.alltel.net>, "John MacGrath"
<jmac...@alltel.net> writes:

>WD-40? hahaha... i have tottaled many vcr's with people just "spraying". Not
>a good idea to use it at all!!!

I'm new at fixing VCRs so I might seem naive. At work I have the option of
using 3-in-1 oil or some dry white powder. The powder is hard to control; I
squeeze the tube just a little and it goes all over.

My current problem is that I've been getting a lot of VCRs that, going from the
PLAY state to the EJECT state, the reels don't back up a little to take up the
tape slack before ejecting like they are suppose to. I've been putting 3-in-1
on the reels. What am I supposed to do?

Chrystian Perron

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JK

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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clean your rubber and the pulleys they are on with rubbing alcohol,
lubrication is what i do as a last resort only on selected parts. i have
removed the bottom off some vcrs and the oil came pouring out - bad idea.
also be carefull of other machines such as cds, the oils will melt the glue
on the bumper pads and they will fall off.
duct tape and wd-40 doesn't fix everything, but they might help your love
life if used creatively.

the problem you describe wont be helped by oil in most cases.

TVan9677 wrote in message <19990305074751...@ngol07.aol.com>...

Sam Goldwasser

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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Read the FAQs before you ruin too may VCRs! :)

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Home Page: http://www.repairfaq.org/
Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/
+Lasers | Mirror Info: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html
| Sam's Laser FAQ: http://www.misty.com/~don/lasersam.html

In article <19990305074751...@ngol07.aol.com> tvan...@aol.com (TVan9677) writes:

I'm new at fixing VCRs so I might seem naive. At work I have the option of
using 3-in-1 oil or some dry white powder. The powder is hard to control; I
squeeze the tube just a little and it goes all over.

My current problem is that I've been getting a lot of VCRs that, going from the

TVan9677

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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In article <7boqdi$kj$1...@news2.tor.accglobal.net>, "JK" <j...@ican.net> writes:

>clean your rubber and the pulleys they are on with rubbing alcohol,
>lubrication is what i do as a last resort only on selected parts.

Thanks for the info. The rest of the story is that today the machine I oiled
yesterday that had the PLAY-->EJECT problem started working ok this morning.
But still I would agree that using lubricants are the last resort and wanted to
find a better way of fixing the problem that wont come back and hit me in the
face with excessive customer returns and loss of consumer confidence in the
company I work for.

Since, having no schematics nor ocilliscope, I can only clean and lubricate
VCRs (and audio equipment for that matter) to get them to run. Failing that,
they go into auction to be sold "as is". What I need to know is:
1. What parts to lubricate with what type of common lubricant I can use that
wouldn't harm them (I can only get what comes in to use);
2. What parts to clean with IPA;
3. What scenarios indicate that lubrication, cleaning or belt changing is in
order to fix and what indicate an electronic problem.

I would be very grateful for any info on this.

TVan9677

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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In article <SAM.99Ma...@colossus.stdavids.picker.com>,
s...@stdavids.picker.com (Sam Goldwasser) writes:

>Read the FAQs before you ruin too may VCRs! :)

I did. BTW, I thought I saw a message in which you refered to a picture of the
inside
of a VCR. I didn't see that in the VCR FAQ. Where exactly is it?

I thought I got the complete FAQ but heard you later say that you found that
the link to "wholefaq" was incorrect. So I might not have read all the VCR FAQs
after all. Do you have the link to "wholefaq" reajusted?

Sam Goldwasser

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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I believe it has been fixed.

The table of contents is correct:

Video Cassette Recorders | (as one file - slow)

When you download from (as one file - slow) you get the text but have to get
the .gifs separately if you want to save them locally:

<A HREF="vcrxprt.gif">Typical VHS VCR Transport - Top View</A> (vcrxprt.gif).
<A HREF="idler.gif">Typical Idler (tire type)</A> (idler.gif).
<A HREF="head6.gif">Typical 6 Head Upper Cylinder</A> (head6.gif).
<A HREF="vhscasin.gif">VHS Cassette - Inside Top View</A> (vhscasin.gif).

Also:

<li><A HREF="vcrps.pdf">Panasonic VCR Switching Power Supply</A> (PDF, vcrps.pdf).
<li><A HREF="vcrps.gif">Panasonic VCR Switching Power Supply</A> (GIF, vcrps.gif).

TVan9677

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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>When you download from (as one file - slow) you get the text but have to get
>the .gifs separately if you want to save them locally:
>

>Typical VHS VCR Transport - Top View (vcrxprt.gif).
>Typical Idler (tire type) (idler.gif).
>Typical 6 Head Upper Cylinder (head6.gif).
>VHS Cassette - Inside Top View (vhscasin.gif).
>
>Also:
>
><li>Panasonic VCR Switching Power Supply (PDF, vcrps.pdf).
><li>Panasonic VCR Switching Power Supply (GIF, vcrps.gif).

Thanks for the info. Searched for an hour on the internet with no results. BTW,
your FAQs are excellent! Pays me back in internet service for just those.

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