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Arthur

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Feb 24, 2001, 11:27:50 AM2/24/01
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I have a Hewlett-Packard M70 17" monitor with the feature that switches
to off (standby) when the computer is off. Although the monitor will
always turn off, in recent months it comes on again when the computer
is off. Since it will then turn off again and on again, I feel this is
not good for the monitor to cycle like this, and I now merely turn it
off when I turn the computer off. I worry about taking it to the kids at
CompUsa, but it may be a simple adjustment for them or for me? I
haven't tried any debugging yet, such as disconnecting the monitor from
the computer and seeing if matters change. This neighborhood has a
number of power fluctuations, but I don't relate the problem to that,
and the device is connected to a UPS as well.

Any suggestions?? Thanks in advance. =Art=

Tricia

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Feb 24, 2001, 12:35:13 PM2/24/01
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:27:50 GMT, Arthur <dra...@att.net.deletethis>
wrote:

>I have a Hewlett-Packard M70 17" monitor with the feature that switches
>to off (standby) when the computer is off. Although the monitor will
>always turn off, in recent months it comes on again when the computer
>is off.

So why not just turn off the monitor when not in use? Viola!

The monitor might have its own power saving settings on itself, take a
look at those.

Arthur

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Feb 24, 2001, 10:06:57 PM2/24/01
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Tricia wrote:
>
>
> So why not just turn off the monitor when not in use? Viola!

That's what I'm now doing.


>
> The monitor might have its own power saving settings on itself, take a
> look at those.


I've looked and not seen an adjustment by software or on the front
controls. I may take a look at the back, but I doubt that such an
adjustment exists.
Thanks

Jim Adney

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Feb 25, 2001, 4:06:10 PM2/25/01
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Arthur <dra...@att.net.deletethis> wrote:

>I have a Hewlett-Packard M70 17" monitor with the feature that switches
>to off (standby) when the computer is off. Although the monitor will
>always turn off, in recent months it comes on again when the computer
>is off. Since it will then turn off again and on again,

Any chance that it is the modem (incoming telephone call) waking it
up?

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Jim Adney jad...@vwtype3.org
Madison,Wisconsin USA
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Arthur

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Feb 25, 2001, 7:50:45 PM2/25/01
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Jim Adney wrote:
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>
> Any chance that it is the modem (incoming telephone call) waking it
> up?
>

No way. Not in this case, anyway. Thanks. Art

Alan Liefting

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Feb 25, 2001, 8:37:19 PM2/25/01
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It is a shame they did not produce the ATX stye power supply with a switched
outlet for the monitors.
I guess the manufacturers assume that all the monitors connected to a PC with an
ATX power supply have power save mode so that when the PC turms off the monitor
goes into power save ie standby. In this mode it is still drawing a current and
will be prone to failure during power surges. A power supply can be manufactured
cheaper if it does not have a power outlet and associated switching circuit.

I am just thinking of all those items of electrical equipment on standby
unnecessarily and using electricity made from fossil fuels! Collectively this
adds up to a lot of green house gases!

VERY selfish! What will all your kids think! They will have to endure
desertification and increased sea level and tropical diseases JUST so we can
have our monitors on standby!


--
Alan Liefting
P.O. Box 50
Haast
New Zealand

No fossil fuels were use to create this email.

No animals were tested to create this email.

Andy Cuffe

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Feb 26, 2001, 11:30:42 AM2/26/01
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Alan Liefting wrote:
>
> It is a shame they did not produce the ATX stye power supply with a switched
> outlet for the monitors.
> I guess the manufacturers assume that all the monitors connected to a PC with an
> ATX power supply have power save mode so that when the PC turms off the monitor
> goes into power save ie standby. In this mode it is still drawing a current and
> will be prone to failure during power surges. A power supply can be manufactured
> cheaper if it does not have a power outlet and associated switching circuit.
>
> I am just thinking of all those items of electrical equipment on standby
> unnecessarily and using electricity made from fossil fuels! Collectively this
> adds up to a lot of green house gases!
>
> VERY selfish! What will all your kids think! They will have to endure
> desertification and increased sea level and tropical diseases JUST so we can
> have our monitors on standby!
>

If you think that's bad, you should walk into a typical college computer
lab. Every monitor and computer has a power saving feature, but you'll
see them all blazing at full power 24/7 until they fail, or are
replaced. PSU alone must have thousands of monitors drawing about
150-250W each. Just setting the software differently would turn them
off instead of letting them display the logon screen all the time, but
no one has. The funny thing is that the power saving lights in some of
the rest rooms have motion detectors that turn them off when no one's in
there. That must save 75W for the brief times when no one's benn in for
what ever the time limit is. It wouldn't bother me so much, except that
energy star is pretty annoying for the home user, but goes unused in the
situations it was meant for.

--
Andy Cuffe
balt...@psu.edu

Tom MacIntyre

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Feb 26, 2001, 6:26:46 AM2/26/01
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:30:42 -0500, Andy Cuffe <balt...@psu.edu>
wrote:

>Alan Liefting wrote:
>>
>> It is a shame they did not produce the ATX stye power supply with a switched
>> outlet for the monitors.
>> I guess the manufacturers assume that all the monitors connected to a PC with an
>> ATX power supply have power save mode so that when the PC turms off the monitor
>> goes into power save ie standby. In this mode it is still drawing a current and
>> will be prone to failure during power surges. A power supply can be manufactured
>> cheaper if it does not have a power outlet and associated switching circuit.
>>
>> I am just thinking of all those items of electrical equipment on standby
>> unnecessarily and using electricity made from fossil fuels! Collectively this
>> adds up to a lot of green house gases!
>>
>> VERY selfish! What will all your kids think! They will have to endure
>> desertification and increased sea level and tropical diseases JUST so we can
>> have our monitors on standby!
>>
>
>If you think that's bad, you should walk into a typical college computer
>lab. Every monitor and computer has a power saving feature, but you'll
>see them all blazing at full power 24/7 until they fail, or are
>replaced. PSU alone must have thousands of monitors drawing about
>150-250W each.

I agree with what you are saying, except that the power draw is less,
more likely about 60-120W.

One would think, though, that an educational institution could give
their students a little "indoctrination" in some minor things that can
be done to protect the environment, much less have their computer tech
people set these things up to do this.

Tom

Arthur

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Feb 26, 2001, 11:59:01 AM2/26/01
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Andy Cuffe wrote:

>
> Alan Liefting wrote:
> >
> >The funny thing is that the power saving lights in some of
> the rest rooms have motion detectors that turn them off when no one's in

Talk about drift of subject matter! I'll just drive over to State
College or University Park with my monitor, and place it in a rest room
for a while. Even my optical mouse goes into some sort of dimmer standby
when I'm not moving it. I fear it's drawing more current than the
oldstyle mouse, but even those seem to have an optical component looking
for the interruption of light energy from a LED. Perhaps that's why my
home circuit breakers are always tripping. In the mean time, I just will
switch off the monitor.


> there.
> balt...@psu.edu

James Sweet

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Mar 5, 2001, 1:16:24 AM3/5/01
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It's probably a capacitor somewhere around the power supply, don't
bother with CompUSA, what you need is an electronics repair shop,
computer stores outsource that stuff anyway.

Arthur

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Mar 5, 2001, 10:11:05 AM3/5/01
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Thanks. Since the monitor works and looks perfect in all other respects,
currently I'm satisfied with pushing the little OFF button on the
monitor as well as on the computer! -=Art=-
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