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simmi

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Apr 17, 2003, 9:55:03 PM4/17/03
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It seems that I've got an ants nest inside my Liteon CD/RW drive. The come
and go through the openings around the headphone volume control, below the
loading tray. These are small ants, no bigger than 2mm long. The CD/RW
works fine and using doesn't seem to upset the ants in any way. I really
don't want to remove the CD/RW and disassemble, so are there any other
methods available for getting rid of these crittes? I've thought of
powering the PC off and use a hairdryer to heat the CDRW drive to drive them
out or kill, but i'm not sure if I kill the electronics in the process. Any
good ideas?
Rgds,
Simmi


LASERandDVDfan

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Apr 17, 2003, 10:41:25 PM4/17/03
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>It seems that I've got an ants nest inside my Liteon CD/RW drive.

>I really


>don't want to remove the CD/RW and disassemble, so are there any other
>methods available for getting rid of these crittes?

Nope.

You may have to dismantle the drive and blow it clean with a can of compressed
air.

Very likely, you may also have to rebuild the computer to thoroughly clean it
out.

You may also need the services of an exterminator to prevent this problem from
happening again. - Reinhart

Peter Gottlieb

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Apr 18, 2003, 9:54:15 AM4/18/03
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So the software doesn't have enough bugs? You need real ones?

The proper way to resolve this is to disassemble and clean out the unit.
However, if you are not careful or experienced you may damage something.

You can also try putting a bait trap nearby. These are little cans with
poisoned ant food inside which the ants eat and bring back to the nest.
Place the can where the ants can't avoid passing it.

Also, clean up around the computer and don't eat while at it. I see
computers with an incredible amount of food crumbs around and in (keyboard
especially) them and this attracts ants, roaches, etc.


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Jerry Greenberg

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Apr 18, 2003, 9:59:37 AM4/18/03
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simmi wrote:

I would be curious to know how the ants are attracted to go in to the
drive in the first place! You can open the machine, and blow
everything out with compressed air. You can also get a can of
compressed air from many of the electronic parts suppliers. This is
known as clean air used mainly for precision work. You can blow out
the areas of dust, and also blow out the drive. I would not use a hair
dryer on the drive.

After finishing, I would find out a substance or chemical that the ants
do not like. I would then put this all over the machine so that they
would not want to climb up in to it. These will cause some expensive
problems for you once they get in to the wrong places.

I would also look in to having an extermination company check out your
place to get rid of these for you. In our area this would be considered
a serious health and safety hazard. The exterminators can put down some
chemicals that these do not like, and they will not come back anymore.
They usually will only go where they think there is some food. Once they
make a habit of this, it is very hard to divert them.

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Bob Parker

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Apr 18, 2003, 10:39:59 AM4/18/03
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Many years ago I had to fix a portable Sony professional cassette
recorder with the same problem. The ants were walking up and down the
power lead and had made a large nest inside the power transformer
casing which was made of stamped metal sheet. I assume they liked the
warmth?
From memory I managed to shake/blow them all out of there and then
put a small amount of surface spray insecticide on the inside of the
casing. Apparently this worked.
You will probably need to disassemble your machine to see just how
bad the problem is, before deciding what to do about it....

Cheers,
Bob

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petrus bitbyter

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Apr 19, 2003, 7:13:35 AM4/19/03
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"simmi" <sim...@ozemail.com.au> schreef in bericht
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Simmi,

I ever removed an ordinary black ants nest using a vacuumcleaner. But there
are much more types of ants. The so called "Pharao" ants are very hard to
fight. Around here they terrorised whole appartment blocks giving the local
terminators a hard time. Anyway you can open the case of your computer to
have a look inside. If you decide to blow them out you'd better take your
computer outside your home so far away they don't find there way back. (I
've no idea what distance is far enough, but if the enter your house again
they may find a place that's much more difficult to trace, making it almost
impossible to remove them.) If you have big enough a freezer you may put
your computer (or the part with the ants nest in it) into this freezer
overnight. Ants does not withstand -18C for that time but your computer
should, although I can't guarantee :) Switch it off and let it rest for some
hours before you freeze it. Also don't switch it on immediatly after
removing if from the freezer so to lower the temperature shock. The
professional way is outgassing. That's to say put it in a room you can suck
vacuum. Neither they ants nor their eggs will survive. Terminator companies
often ave these kind of facilities.

Succes removing your ants.

pieter


Lee Babcock

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Apr 19, 2003, 3:38:59 PM4/19/03
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The ants are there because they have a nearby food supply. Remove the
food supply and they will leave and/or die. I would vacuum them out,
not blow them out if there are any dead bodies. Problem is they carry
their food back to their nest which might cause some problems.
Regards
Lee


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Steven Warga

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Apr 19, 2003, 4:28:18 PM4/19/03
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Lee Babcock wrote:

> simmi wrote:
> >
> > It seems that I've got an ants nest inside my Liteon CD/RW drive. The come
> > and go through the openings around the headphone volume control, below the
> > loading tray. These are small ants, no bigger than 2mm long. The CD/RW
> > works fine and using doesn't seem to upset the ants in any way. I really
> > don't want to remove the CD/RW and disassemble, so are there any other
> > methods available for getting rid of these crittes? I've thought of
> > powering the PC off and use a hairdryer to heat the CDRW drive to drive them
> > out or kill, but i'm not sure if I kill the electronics in the process. Any
> > good ideas?
> > Rgds,
> > Simmi
>
> The ants are there because they have a nearby food supply. Remove the
> food supply and they will leave and/or die. I would vacuum them out,
> not blow them out if there are any dead bodies. Problem is they carry
> their food back to their nest which might cause some problems.
> Regards
> Lee
>

A few moth balls in the bottom of the computer case should work fine.
You will see them leave and not come back.

simmi

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Apr 20, 2003, 12:29:02 AM4/20/03
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Hi all,
Thanks for all your advice. I finally de-bugged my system. I took the
covers off the PC to verify if there were ants inside the PC itself. It was
fortunatly clean. After through investigation, it became apparent that the
Ants were only in the CD/RW drive. I then proceeded to remove the drive and
take it outside the house. After dissasembly and searching, I finally found
the nest inside the CD front bezel. I then poured methyladed spritit over
it on the bezel and thus killed any activity. After a while I cleaned out
the drive, trying to remove all eggs and ants. The ones inside the LED
housing were a pain to get at. It appears to be fine now. If you are
interested, I've taken a few pics and you can see for yourself the critters
and their nest. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~simmiv/ants.htm
Best Regards,
Simmi


H. R. Bob Hofmann

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Apr 20, 2003, 9:53:00 AM4/20/03
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Great follow-up and photos. They bring new meaning to a "buggy" computer.

H. R. Bob Hofmann

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kc8adu

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Apr 20, 2003, 5:21:35 PM4/20/03
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quit storing cookies in it?
there is something edible in it.

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kc8adu

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Apr 20, 2003, 5:27:30 PM4/20/03
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on second thought they may be eating the grease in the mechinism.

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solarman

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Apr 20, 2003, 7:51:09 PM4/20/03
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You have to clean that "cup holder" every so often to keep this from
happening...<grin>

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Lee Babcock

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:15:03 PM4/21/03
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Steven Warga wrote:
>
> Lee Babcock wrote:
>
> > simmi wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems that I've got an ants nest inside my Liteon CD/RW drive. The come
> > > and go through the openings around the headphone volume control, below the
> > > loading tray. These are small ants, no bigger than 2mm long. The CD/RW
> > > works fine and using doesn't seem to upset the ants in any way. I really
> > > don't want to remove the CD/RW and disassemble, so are there any other
> > > methods available for getting rid of these crittes? I've thought of
> > > powering the PC off and use a hairdryer to heat the CDRW drive to drive them
> > > out or kill, but i'm not sure if I kill the electronics in the process. Any
> > > good ideas?
> > > Rgds,
> > > Simmi
> >
> > The ants are there because they have a nearby food supply. Remove the
> > food supply and they will leave and/or die. I would vacuum them out,
> > not blow them out if there are any dead bodies. Problem is they carry
> > their food back to their nest which might cause some problems.
> > Regards
> > Lee
> >
>
> A few moth balls in the bottom of the computer case should work fine.
> You will see them leave and not come back.

Paradichlorobenzine fumes can disolve some plastics. I wouldn't put
them inside a computer.
Regards
Lee

Don

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Apr 21, 2003, 10:14:20 PM4/21/03
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I have heard that ants don't like cucumber peelings. Makes sense,
because cukes grow on the ground, a natural ant defense would
be evolutionairy beneficial

In article <3EA45F57...@pathcom.com>, leeba...@pathcom.com says...

jakdedert

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:23:09 PM4/22/03
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...or at least be a little more careful when you set the cup in...no
spilling.
jak
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Gordon Youd

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Got anymore of that isoprop......HIC.......

Aunty.

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