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Neid Koffe

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Mar 25, 2011, 4:42:24 AM3/25/11
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Got given this coffee machine.
Aroma Coffee™ 12 Digital (PC4700)

Fault:

When powering it on (digital panel) it turns straight off and the
element never gets to heats up.

This digital panel I assume control the usage etc. But also
controls the On/Off. The buttons themselves seem functional.
I can hear a relay trip once when it turns it self off again.

I've pulled to bits to check for obvious problems.
I'm thinking I'm looking at a round Thermistor (see below links)
that attaches directly to the element and it appears wired to the
mains voltage (230-240v here) on the power/relay board on the right
side of the photo.

Would it be safe to assume this is a good chance of being the
problem? I'm going to resolder that large resistor on the board in
case its dried just in case.

The digital board I'll leave unless you think something warrants
investigating. But its pretty much an IC and a LCD panel. The
clock on it works find untill you press the on button and it drops
power completely.

If it is the Thermistor how can I test it with a meter?
I know enough to avoid a shock but not sure would it be open or
closed or what. Need some help here.

Your ideas are welcome on this (cant wait to try the coffee).

Gutshot
http://i54.tinypic.com/2zjjf5i.jpg

Product Page
http://www.sunbeam.com.au/Pages/Browse/ProductDetail.aspx?pcid=8079
&pid=1413

Manual
http://www.sunbeam.com.au/PDFDownloadHandler.ashx?id=11413

Franc Zabkar

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Mar 25, 2011, 5:35:52 AM3/25/11
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On 25 Mar 2011 08:42:24 GMT, Neid Koffe <de...@doornail.com> put finger
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>Got given this coffee machine.
>Aroma Coffee™ 12 Digital (PC4700)
>
>Fault:
>
>When powering it on (digital panel) it turns straight off and the
>element never gets to heats up.
>
>This digital panel I assume control the usage etc. But also
>controls the On/Off. The buttons themselves seem functional.
>I can hear a relay trip once when it turns it self off again.
>
>I've pulled to bits to check for obvious problems.
>I'm thinking I'm looking at a round Thermistor (see below links)
>that attaches directly to the element and it appears wired to the
>mains voltage (230-240v here) on the power/relay board on the right
>side of the photo.

That's a thermal switch, not a thermistor. It should be closed.

- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Neid Koffe

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Mar 25, 2011, 6:37:43 AM3/25/11
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Att: Frank

>>Got given this coffee machine.
>>Aroma Coffee™ 12 Digital (PC4700)
>>
>>Fault:
>>
>>When powering it on (digital panel) it turns straight off and the
>>element never gets to heats up.
>>
>>This digital panel I assume control the usage etc. But also
>>controls the On/Off. The buttons themselves seem functional.
>>I can hear a relay trip once when it turns it self off again.
>>
>>I've pulled to bits to check for obvious problems.
>>I'm thinking I'm looking at a round Thermistor (see below links)
>>that attaches directly to the element and it appears wired to the
>>mains voltage (230-240v here) on the power/relay board on the
right
>>side of the photo.

>That's a thermal switch, not a thermistor. It should be closed.
>- Franc Zabkar

Thanks for the reply...

So that is normally closed at all times unless it hits the temp
threshold? Even in a no power state?

How would it be acting if faulty?


Phil Allison

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Mar 25, 2011, 8:06:00 AM3/25/11
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"Neid Koffe"

> How would it be acting if faulty?


** Irrelevant - cos it is not the fault you have.

That device is only there as a last line of defence against the whole thing
going up in flames.

BTW:

Love your handle.


... Phil


Meat Plow

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Mar 25, 2011, 12:02:33 PM3/25/11
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:42:24 +0000, Neid Koffe wrote:

> Got given this coffee machine.
> Aroma Coffee™ 12 Digital (PC4700)
>
> Fault:
>
> When powering it on (digital panel) it turns straight off and the
> element never gets to heats up.
>
> This digital panel I assume control the usage etc. But also controls
> the On/Off. The buttons themselves seem functional. I can hear a relay
> trip once when it turns it self off again.
>
> I've pulled to bits to check for obvious problems. I'm thinking I'm
> looking at a round Thermistor (see below links) that attaches directly
> to the element and it appears wired to the mains voltage (230-240v here)
> on the power/relay board on the right side of the photo.
>
> Would it be safe to assume this is a good chance of being the problem?
> I'm going to resolder that large resistor on the board in case its dried
> just in case.
>
> The digital board I'll leave unless you think something warrants
> investigating. But its pretty much an IC and a LCD panel. The clock on
> it works find untill you press the on button and it drops power
> completely.
>
> If it is the Thermistor how can I test it with a meter? I know enough to
> avoid a shock but not sure would it be open or closed or what. Need
> some help here.
>
> Your ideas are welcome on this (cant wait to try the coffee).

Thermistor attached to heating pad responsible 99% of the time from my
experience in repairing my Cuisinart Grind -N-Brew not once but twice in
4 years..

--
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pjrcr...@gmail.com

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May 13, 2014, 7:16:01 PM5/13/14
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Attn: Neid Koffe,

Did you ever fix the fault on your sunbeam aroma 12 coffee machine?

I have the exact same issue. These aren't worth taking to a repair shop but if it was something simple i'll sort it myself...

Really appreciate an answer either way ;-)

Cheers

peter

On Friday, March 25, 2011 11:37:43 PM UTC+13, Neid Koffe wrote:
> Att: Frank
>
> >>Got given this coffee machine.
> >>Aroma Coffee(tm) 12 Digital (PC4700)

Allodoxaphobia

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May 14, 2014, 9:08:34 AM5/14/14
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On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT), pjrcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Really appreciate an answer either way ;-)

From a posting over three years ago? Not likely either way.

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