Registering AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset?

Amanda Riphnykhazova

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Dec 14, 2012, 3:28:28 PM12/14/12

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As these DECT 6.0 systems are supposed to be compatible, does anyone
know if it is possible to register an AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with
Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset please? If possible without jerry-rigging
two wires between the two contacts on the base station and the two
contacts on the handset for the registration process?

Jeff Liebermann

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Dec 14, 2012, 6:21:35 PM12/14/12

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No. In order to support interoperability among a mix of vendors, the
handset must support GAP (Generic Access Profile):
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_access_profile>
<http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300444/02.01.01_60/en_300444v020101p.pdf>
This is widely supported in Europe, but not in the US. However, even
if GAP were supported, there is not test or certification requirement
for cross vendor interoperability. The GAP spec also does not cover
optional features, such as answering machines. If the base has an
answering machine, it's unlikely that another vendors handset can
program the answering machine as the menus are in the handset, not the
base.

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Amanda Riphnykhazova

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Dec 15, 2012, 1:11:47 PM12/15/12

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On Dec 14, 6:21 pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:28:28 -0800 (PST), Amanda Riphnykhazova
>

> <licensedtoqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >As these DECT 6.0 systems are supposed to be compatible, does anyone
> >know if it is possible to register an AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with
> >Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset please? If possible without jerry-rigging
> >two wires between the two contacts on the base station and the two
> >contacts on the handset for the registration process?
>
> No. In order to support interoperability among a mix of vendors, the
> handset must support GAP (Generic Access Profile):
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_access_profile>

> <http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300444/02.01.01_60/...>

> This is widely supported in Europe, but not in the US. However, even
> if GAP were supported, there is not test or certification requirement
> for cross vendor interoperability. The GAP spec also does not cover
> optional features, such as answering machines. If the base has an
> answering machine, it's unlikely that another vendors handset can
> program the answering machine as the menus are in the handset, not the
> base.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com

> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

OK thanks for that.I just thought that as both SEEM to use the same
freqs & (bare) specs and both support interop with additional
handsets, they might cross-support.

This bit of the referenced page certainly is confusing: "Most consumer-
level DECT phones and base stations support the GAP profile, even
those that do not publicize

Jeff Liebermann

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Dec 15, 2012, 9:34:51 PM12/15/12

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:11:47 -0800 (PST), Amanda Riphnykhazova
<license...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 14, 6:21 pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:28:28 -0800 (PST), Amanda Riphnykhazova
>>
>> <licensedtoqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >As these DECT 6.0 systems are supposed to be compatible, does anyone
>> >know if it is possible to register an AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with
>> >Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset please? If possible without jerry-rigging
>> >two wires between the two contacts on the base station and the two
>> >contacts on the handset for the registration process?
>>
>> No. In order to support interoperability among a mix of vendors, the
>> handset must support GAP (Generic Access Profile):
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_access_profile>
>> <http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300444/02.01.01_60/...>
>> This is widely supported in Europe, but not in the US. However, even
>> if GAP were supported, there is not test or certification requirement
>> for cross vendor interoperability. The GAP spec also does not cover
>> optional features, such as answering machines. If the base has an
>> answering machine, it's unlikely that another vendors handset can
>> program the answering machine as the menus are in the handset, not the
>> base.

>OK thanks for that.I just thought that as both SEEM to use the same
>freqs & (bare) specs and both support interop with additional
>handsets, they might cross-support.

Frequencies:
1880 - 1900 MHz in Europe
1900 - 1920 MHz in China
1893 - 1906 MHz in Japan
1910 - 1930 MHz in Latin America
1920 - 1930 MHz in US and Canada

>This bit of the referenced page certainly is confusing: "Most consumer-
>level DECT phones and base stations support the GAP profile, even
>those that do not publicize

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECT_6.0#DECT_6.0>
DECT 6.0 products do not support "GAP", therefore phones of
differing brands are not guaranteed to work together. E.g.
A GE 28105EE1 DECT 6.0 headset will not receive calls if
registered to a Uniden base unit.

Actually, that's not quite true. GAP is not required for DECT 6.0
(which is not a standard but rather a marketing term). However some
vendors advertise GAP compatibility. For example:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=dect+6.0+GAP&tbm=shop>
Whether it actually works between different vendors is doubtful.

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