Source /Sub for SV-3a Diode
Bob T
looking for a SV-3a temp compensating diode (or an entire amp board)
Can I use any temp compensating diode or is there something I should be
looking for
Thanks
Bob
DaveM
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The NTE177 is a sub for that diode, which appears to be an ordinary 200V silicon
rectifier. You can probably use any rectifier with the same case as your
original part.
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Bob T
thanks the only thing odd I noticed is that the SV-3a diode doesn't look
like a diode using a dvm. i.e. looks open in either direction
They do look like diodes when I put them on my huntron tracker which had me
wondering if there were two devices in the case or something that might
raise the forward voltage drop
I have a few diodes from a old scott receiver that I'll try and see what
happens
Bob
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DaveM
When checking a diode (rectifier or other semiconductor junction), make sure
that you use the Diode function on your DMM. If you use a normal resistance
range, the applied voltage from the DMM isn't enough to cause the junction to
conduct. If it checks OK with a Huntron, then it's probably OK.
There are devices that have multiple PN junctions, and are usually used for
setting bias levels and temperature compensation in audio circuits, but
according to the NTE reference, the SV-3A is just an ordinary (low current) 200V
silicon rectifier. If you're concerned about a proper replacement, then you can
see the NTE177 datasheet at http://www.nteinc.com/specs/100to199/pdf/nte177.pdf.
Cheers!!!!
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Franc Zabkar
<boborann...@verizon.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Dave
>thanks the only thing odd I noticed is that the SV-3a diode doesn't look
>like a diode using a dvm. i.e. looks open in either direction
>They do look like diodes when I put them on my huntron tracker which had me
>wondering if there were two devices in the case or something that might
>raise the forward voltage drop
>I have a few diodes from a old scott receiver that I'll try and see what
>happens
>
>Bob
See this schematic:
http://www.jmargolin.com/marantz/p750.pdf
Diodes H005 and H006 are identified as "HV0000212, SV-3A". The circuit
symbol for each diode is two diodes in series.
However, the schematic diagram for the Marantz 4240 receiver draws
them as regular single diodes.
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/downloadsm/25365/MARANTZ_4240.html
- Franc Zabkar
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DaveM
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Looking at the NTE177 data sheet, I see that the forward voltage drop is 1.0
volt, pretty high for a low current rectifier.
I looked up the SV-3A unit in my old RCA SK-series catalog, and also in my old
Sylvania ECG series catalog. The SK3864 is listed as the replacement for the
SV-3A. The ECG605A is the ECG replacement.
Both of those catalogs list the replacement to be a Silicon Varistor, not a
rectifier.
ECG605A characteristics:
Vf = 1.26V - 1.36V @ 3ma
Tempco = -4.6mV per degree C
SK3864 characteristics:
Vf = 1.24V - 1.34V @ 3ma
Tempco = -3.6mV per degree C
In view of the Marantz schematic and the other observations, I would have to say
that the NTE177 part is not a good replacement. Instead, I suggest that the
NTE605A part is the proper replacement part. It has the same characteristics as
the ECG part, and is a silicon varistor, not a rectifier.
Another fly in the ointment; according to the datasheet, the NTE605A has been
discontinued. I emailed NTE and described the problem, including the fact that
the NTE605A has been discontinued. Will have to wait for their solution, if
they have one. You might be able to find a dealer or distributor that still has
an NTE605A in stock. Good luck on that.
Back to the OP... the original part is probably behaving correctly on your DMM
resistance test. Even in the Diode mode, the DMM might not have enough voltage
at the probes to turn on the junction, so it will read open in both directions.
The Huntron test should be reliable. Sorry for all the confusion.
Cheers...
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Franc Zabkar
<mason...@comcast99.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Looking at the NTE177 data sheet, I see that the forward voltage drop is 1.0
>volt, pretty high for a low current rectifier.
An ordinary 1N4001 has the same forward voltage drop according to its
datasheet.
>I looked up the SV-3A unit in my old RCA SK-series catalog, and also in my old
>Sylvania ECG series catalog. The SK3864 is listed as the replacement for the
>SV-3A. The ECG605A is the ECG replacement.
>Both of those catalogs list the replacement to be a Silicon Varistor, not a
>rectifier.
>ECG605A characteristics:
>Vf = 1.26V - 1.36V @ 3ma
>Tempco = -4.6mV per degree C
>
>SK3864 characteristics:
>Vf = 1.24V - 1.34V @ 3ma
>Tempco = -3.6mV per degree C
IIRC, a silicon PN junction has a tempco of approximately -2.2mV/deg
C. Therefore the "varistor" behaves like two series silicon diodes.
Would two series Schottky diodes fit the bill? AIUI, Schottky diodes
have a slightly lower tempco which may be consistent with the SK3864.
Bob T
voltage drop of 1.2V
I put a pair of series connected 1n2002's and it seems to be running fine
Bob