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Andrew Smith

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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Actually, electric screwdrivers are a great, but now that I've got your
attention, do any of you electronics buffs have any comments, gripes or
suggestions about them?
I'm designing a new one as I feel the current models are too bulky and
stubby for many relectronics repair applications.

Any comments are most welcome!

john d hutchison

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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I use mine all day long and just love it.

Kip


Andre

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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In article <39C92BA8...@chat.carleton.ca>,

asm...@chat.carleton.ca wrote:
> Actually, electric screwdrivers are a great, but now that I've got
your
> attention, do any of you electronics buffs have any comments, gripes
or
> suggestions about them?
> I'm designing a new one as I feel the current models are too bulky and
> stubby for many electronics repair applications.

>
> Any comments are most welcome!

Yep, I've got a comment.

Your idea sounds VERY good ; how about using a miniature stepper motor
as this should provide far more power than an equivalent sized linear
motor with more control options. :-) Just an idea.
(Hint - 3 1/2 inch drives use them)

A "right angle" option would also be good for computer repair and also
for repairing modern, tightly packed equipment cases.

Could have done with one of those when repairing my computer (replacing
the disk drive) ; instead I had to use a pair of pliers and a
screwdriver blade ; not very ergonomic I might add :-(

Also, add an illumination option ; very useful if working in confined
spaces. (like certain models of VCR that I won't mention here ;-) )


Just my $0.02 worth (or actually 3.5 pence in UK currency) ;-)

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craig osborn

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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Battery and cord or? I would like to see one one like a production tool not
battery operated or air powered at a reasonable price.
JEFF
Andrew Smith <asm...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote in message
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> Actually, electric screwdrivers are a great, but now that I've got your
> attention, do any of you electronics buffs have any comments, gripes or
> suggestions about them?
> I'm designing a new one as I feel the current models are too bulky and
> stubby for many relectronics repair applications.

Team Goon

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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>Battery and cord or? I would like to see
>one one like a production tool not battery
>operated or air powered at a reasonable
>price.
Same here. I find battery operated TOTALLY unnessesary in bench work,
and am totally frustrated by constant dead batteries.

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Chris Mann

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Sep 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/21/00
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How about one that uses a standard size battery that is available almost
anywhere? Like maybe D or C size NiCads. I have a ten year old Ryobi that
will outpower just about any portable I've seen but the batteries have been
obsolete for years. I just keep rebuilding the pack I have now.

JURB6006

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Sep 21, 2000, 10:59:50 PM9/21/00
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We do an incredible amount of work usually. We used the smallest one speed
Makitas they had, they served us well for a few years.

Now we got the variable speed Skils, with the clutch. Bear in mind, these are
drills, not cordless screwdrivers. We use Xcelite bits in them, although these
are getting hard to find. They are just the right length, not unweildy but not
too short.

It's amazing how fast the back can come off a set when you can do 500-600 RPM.
Alot of our work is bigscreens and they have alot of screws at times.

Even with a one speed and no clutch, you get the hang of it, not to stip them
all out etc., or have screws flying all over. They are the best alternative to
them cheapo electric screwdriver I've ever seen. Hell, I can use a manual
screwdriver faster thasn most of them !

moe

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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We repair printers and have to remove and insert
100s of screws a day. We have about 5 Milwaukee
dual speed screwdrivers with torque adjustment.
It's like an extension of my hand, couldn't be without it.
Quick charge, replaceable battery pack. Always have
about 5 on charge. 5 seconds and you're back screwing.
Optional right angle drive and 1/4 inch drill attachment.
Great balance and feel. You'd have to really go some
to invent something better. Of course you have to pay
close to $100 for one, but the labor cost savings more
than pay for it.

Moe
http://fixyourownprinter.com

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anal...@my-deja.com

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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I agree, I can remove screws faster manually than with my rechargable
screwdriver. However I have been using my Craftsman drill for
screwdriving on larger projects. It has a clutch feature and variable
speed. But it is too large for TV's, VCR's etc.

My suggestions are:
Variable speed.
Light weight (as much as possible, batteries are heavy)
Adjustable torque or clutch
Battery opperated with optional line ac adaptor.
Optional battery types of some standard size, ie; rechargeable NiCads
and regular alkaline or general purpose so that one may opt to use
regular batteries while rechargables are on charge (or on order).
Interchangeable tips using the industry standard so one is not tied to
one particular vendor.

analogman

Bill J

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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Here is a link for the cordless drill I use on a regular basis and can't
live without.
http://www.grainger.com/cgi-bin/ngs?155612YXkk958kk4YJ82
This link will take you to a page that shows several Milwaukee cordless
drills. The one I bought is the 3G715 plus an extra battery. The total bill
was about $150.00 US but well worth it.
Here are just a few reasons I find it the best unit available as well as a
few disadvantages.

Advantages:
It has a variable adjustable clutch.
Two speeds. 200-400 rpms.
Lower speed has more torque.
One handed operation. Buttons easy to activate.
Small and Light weight
1 hour quick charge for extra battery. (Removable)
Folds in the middle to get into those tight places.
Lock switch. (great for putting in the road case without it running)
Can turn screw manually without the need to engage lock. (this is great for
starting to loosen a tight screw manually and then pushing the power switch
to continue removing the screw) This is one of the more unique and useful
features as it allows you to do this with one hand. You can also put a screw
in with power and then let up on the switch and then just turn the whole
thing for more tightening.

Disadvantages:
2.4 volt has lower torque limits so not great for big stuff.
Costlier than the $29-$39 cheapies.


I am a tech who uses this tool and not a salesman but even at the costly
price for this tool I find it does exactly what I want it to do and is very
much worth the cost. The only other thing I can add is that if you give this
one a try you will be very impressed.

These are just my opinions and an attempt to enlighten.


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henry

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Sep 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/25/00
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I would like one with rechargeable AAA batteries.

TheCentral...@abcnopamdef.pobox.com

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Sep 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/25/00
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:30:18 -0600, henry <hasa...@calcna.ab.ca> wrote:
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> I would like one with rechargeable AAA batteries.

Why? It'll be so feeble that it'll barely work and you'll have to swap
out the batteries every tenth screw.

I've found the black'n'decker versapak to work quite well. The thing that
always dies in a cordless electric screwdriver is the battery.

henry

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Sep 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/25/00
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I agree re: feeble and re.: short life.
I was just throwing the challenge to the
guy with the original question. :-)

Tom Maguire

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Sep 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/26/00
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Sorry,

I bought the Milwaukee when it first came out and went through two of
them before the factory refused to fix them. It is way overpriced and I
own a lot of Milwaukee tools. The $19.95 Black & Decker runs rings
around it!

My old friend Morty Testa (Postronics, Bronx NY) used to say driving
screws by hand was therapeutic after straining your brain to fix
something.

Tom Maguire
TMI Engineering

moe wrote:
>
> We repair printers and have to remove and insert
> 100s of screws a day. We have about 5 Milwaukee
> dual speed screwdrivers with torque adjustment.
> It's like an extension of my hand, couldn't be without it.
> Quick charge, replaceable battery pack. Always have
> about 5 on charge. 5 seconds and you're back screwing.
> Optional right angle drive and 1/4 inch drill attachment.
> Great balance and feel. You'd have to really go some
> to invent something better. Of course you have to pay
> close to $100 for one, but the labor cost savings more
> than pay for it.
>
> Moe
> http://fixyourownprinter.com
>
> "JURB6006" <jurb...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20000921225950...@ng-fu1.aol.com...

Andre

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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In article <Pine.A41.4.05.10009252235260.34582-
100...@srv1.calcna.ab.ca>,

Not if you discharge it properly. Most NiCad batteries die through
*overcharging* in my experience.

Just my $0.02 worth.


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