BIOS date and time in a Pentium 4 not adjustable.

[Peter Easthope]

A Pentium 4 with Intel system board here.
When powered up the screen displays
GB85010A.86A.0078.P18.0110081719
...
CMOS Battery Low
CMOS Date/Time Not Set

No response to any keys when attempting to adjust date and time. No
problem changing other BIOS parameters. This is only to prevent the
user from adjusting the clock when it can't keep time with power off?
A failure in the BIOS?

Thanks, ... Peter E.

[dansabr...@yahoo.com]

Change the battery. It is possible that the low battery condition is preventing any further action.

Dan

[Look165]

The parameters of the BIOS are grooved in a Flash memory

THe date/time comes from a clock circuit ; it needs a higher minimum
voltage for operate

Peter Easthope a écrit :

[Adrian Caspersz]

On 04/02/17 03:24, Peter Easthope wrote:
> A Pentium 4 with Intel system board here.
> When powered up the screen displays
> GB85010A.86A.0078.P18.0110081719
> ...
> CMOS Battery Low
> CMOS Date/Time Not Set
>
> No response to any keys when attempting to adjust date and time.

Check the onscreen instructions carefully (normally on the bottom row)
on what keys to press to change item values. Sometimes it's F5/F6,
sometimes something else like direct entry (guess you tried that).

--
Adrian C

[Andrew Rossmann]

In article <f9b441b1-b4a4-4512...@googlegroups.com>,
petere...@gmail.com says...

As others mentioned, you probably need to replace the battery first. It
may be blocked due to that. The most common battery is a CR2032,
although you can possibly use a CR2025 or CR2016 in a pinch if you
happen to have one. The only difference is the thickness. 3.2mm, 2.5mm,
1.6mm.

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[Benderthe.evilrobot]

"Andrew Rossmann" <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <f9b441b1-b4a4-4512...@googlegroups.com>,
> petere...@gmail.com says...
>>
>> A Pentium 4 with Intel system board here.
>> When powered up the screen displays
>> GB85010A.86A.0078.P18.0110081719
>> ...
>> CMOS Battery Low
>> CMOS Date/Time Not Set
>>
>> No response to any keys when attempting to adjust date and time. No
>> problem changing other BIOS parameters. This is only to prevent the
>> user from adjusting the clock when it can't keep time with power off?
>> A failure in the BIOS?
>>
>> Thanks, ... Peter E.
>
> As others mentioned, you probably need to replace the battery first. It
> may be blocked due to that. The most common battery is a CR2032,
> although you can possibly use a CR2025 or CR2016 in a pinch if you
> happen to have one. The only difference is the thickness. 3.2mm, 2.5mm,
> 1.6mm.

Some of those older boards had a potted module with a 0.6" chip form factor.

IIRC: it was a Dallas RTC chip (which may have been more or less compatible
with the original Motorola chipset RTC). That had a couple of lithium coin
cells stuck on top and potted.

[Peter Easthope]

Thanks for the replies.

Dan wrote,
> Change the battery.

Replaced the CR2032 cell with one fresh out of the package. No change
in BIOS behaviour. Date and time still not changeable.

Adrian wrote,
> Check the onscreen instructions carefully ...

Photo of the screen here.
http://easthope.ca/IntelD850GBClockSetting.jpg
Tried +/-, Page Up/Page Down. Keyboard works otherwise.

Bender wrote,

> Some of those older boards had a potted module with a 0.6" chip form factor.
>
> IIRC: it was a Dallas RTC chip (which may have been more or less compatible
> with the original Motorola chipset RTC). That had a couple of lithium coin
> cells stuck on top and potted.

Photo of the lower left part of the board here.
http://easthope.ca/IntelD850GBboard.jpg
As clear possible with this camera and without losing image size.
I recognize only the one lithium cell.

Retrieved the Intel BIOS updater and updated. The latest version
available is the same as the extant version. No problem reported in
the update process.

Booting stops with these being the last three lines on the screen.
CMOS Date/Time Not Set
Press F1 to Run SETUP
Network selected as first boot device for current boot

There is no 8P8C connector on the system board and no Ethernet adapter
installed. Nothing about network in the boot area of the BIOS
configuration. The BIOS identifies the WDC drive with a bootable
system as "WDC WD1200JB-00DUA3" but won't boot from it.

None of the capacitors are bulged. With the capacitors installed, no
leaking electrolyte visible. Replacing capacitors seems a poor
investment for an uncertain return.

Any further thoughts before scrapping the board?

Thanks, ... Peter E.

[David Farber]

Hi Peter,

Are there two pins on the motherboard that you can temporarily short that
will clear the CMOS settings?
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA

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"Peter Easthope" <petere...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:65d3e9df-f413-41e3...@googlegroups.com...

> Thanks for the replies.
>
> Dan wrote,
>> Change the battery.
>
> Replaced the CR2032 cell with one fresh out of the package. No change
> in BIOS behaviour. Date and time still not changeable.

What OS? - most I've seen have time and date icon on the taskbar, have you
tried setting it there?

[Look165]

Something gross !!

Are you sure that during BIOS setting, your keyboard is Numlock ?


Peter Easthope a écrit :

[Peter Easthope]

David wrote,

> Are there two pins on the motherboard that you can temporarily short that
> will clear the CMOS settings?

There is a pin set J8C2; described here.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards/000005690.html
With the jumper on 2-3, a maintenance menu added in the BIOS
configuration allows passwords to be cleared. No evidence of any
password set but I cleared all. After that put the jumper back to the
normal 1-2 position and booted again.

Still could not adjust the clock but the "Save changes and proceed"
option worked and the system booted. Not sure that clearing the
passwords made a difference. I could have just failed to recognize
how to pass the clock problem earlier.

Bender wrote,

> What OS? - most I've seen have time and date icon on the taskbar, have you
> tried setting it there?

Debian and antiX. Now that I see how to start the OS, will try to set
the clock there.

Look165 wrote,
> ... Numlock ?

Numlock is ok.

Will return to this machine February 13 or later. Appears promising now.

Thanks for the help, ... Peter E.