Want to build an amp
ZZa...@aol.com
myself, my Sansui fried
So I need an amp. Going in, I want to protect my speakers, and my
design will never distort. The gain stage that accomplishes that is
shut down until it is needed, and there are other factors as well. If
I pour myself into it, I will use this certain power trnasformer. This
thing is bad to the one. It maintainms + and - sixty something volts
even under a four ohm load on both sides. Cranking this thing up could
blow a breaker in the main box, and did so. I think this is about one
of the best I have ever seen. Highest power output.
Thing is I have these speakers that I really like that can't handle
all that juice, so I intend to put in a limiting system. I have given
some thought to this.
Since it has to work into low impedance I am thinking really hefty
trasnsistors, three pairs of them per channel. And regulators,
switchmode regulators.
I intend to make ananalog algorithim. I want to make it whaere you can
select the maximum power output, and it will regulate the rails down,
but still provide a bit of instantaneous power. I intend to do this
all in analog.
The maximum power of this amp will be about 263 watts per channel into
eight ohms, What I want to do is to protect my speakers. So I intrend
to build in regulatiors. I am wrestling with the algorithm now. Do I
detect current or voltage ?
The deal is this, there will be three pairs of outputs in each
channel. There will also be three swictmode FET regulators feeding
each bank of them. This is to limit power. This is to save the
speakers I like.
Now the idea here is to give it alot of oomph. I want to deytect when
the woofers are in over-excursion, and limit it to that. That user
will have power levels to choose from, and that is the max, but then a
lower average power is selected and the amp couold have as much as
+12Db dynamic headroom.
To do this, The regulators will have to operate at at least 100Khz.
Maybe higher. I need top keep ahead of the demand. I want the impact
my subwoofers can deliver, but I do not want to destroy my tweeters.
This is a tall task in the analog domain, but I think I can do it.
Now to provide the dynamic headroom, heretofore unseen on Earth, I
will have to build a time constant into it. I will have to tkae into
account what my speakers can tak as wel as the ouput devices, actually
moreso.
It is time, I am getting to the pimt where I really want to do this. I
know I can. I have a very different bias cicuit that is tolerant of
supply rail changes, I did find a wat to compensate. I know how to use
commutator switches and efven analog commutators, but thet is not the
direction I want to take. I want to give my amp alot of headtroom so
it never distorts. Impossible you say ? I have already designed it.
Even some generic 829 can do it, the trick to keep the distortion down
is to keep the gain stage out of the loop untill and unless it is
needed. In other words the 829 just shuts up until it is time. It will
add a bit of residual noise but that is all.
But this is more advanced, I want the power supply to tradck the
audio, and provide a PREDETERMINED amount of extra power for a very
short time.
Don't get me wrong, set this thing to max and you got over 500 watts a
channel into four ohms. It would be 600 into my speakers but it will
never see that level unless I go spend money on something else.
My speakers are good enough that I wnt to keep them, and they are good
enough to land me in jail. How much more power do I need ? But I would
consider this a personal achievement, to build this.
We are talking twelve really good bipolars, twelve high speed FETs and
four coils alomg with a few high performance lower capacity filters.
I mean I want to detect when a woofer cone goes out of the magnetic
field via current monitoring. I have never seen an amp do this right.
I mean in a real time way with no digital. And this is only for the
bass. I got plans for the rest of the audio spectrum as well.
JURB
Lynn
Why don't you learn how to use Google, Jerk.
James Sweet
<ZZa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192251302....@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
How about one of these? http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~mleach/lowtim/
I built one a few years ago and have been happy with it. It's all the power
I could ever need.
Arfa Daily
rails to the output stages switched 'on the fly' by FETs, according to the
demands of power. There was then a very sophisticated protection circuit,
which monitored many things, including output current.
Arfa
Michael Black
> Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove
> myself, my Sansui fried
>
This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else.
Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy
ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt
and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline
of this newsgroup.
Michael
Arfa Daily
"Michael Black" <et...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:feqnh4$4eo$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
Apart from the obvious spam posts, which almost all groups suffer from, and
is by no means the fault of the posters here, I see nothing that constitutes
the spiralling decline that you are always bleating on about as occuring to
this group. I have been active on it for some years now, and it seems to me
that little has changed. Most questions still get answered in a polite and
gentlemanly way. Most posters' problems are resolved by the regular posters,
much as on other groups. I don't see anything in the guide that you have
linked to, which seems to cover any kind of 'decline' that you perceive. You
have a real bee in your bonnet about what you consider to be off-topic
posting. As I have said to you before, sometimes people wander on here by
accident with a question which, whilst being electronically related, is not
necessarily to do with repair, but never-the-less is still an interesting
discussion point. Sometimes, regular posters, who regularly help out with
other people's problems, (such as ZZ who started this thread) have a general
electronics issue that they wish to discuss with other engineers who are
their 'net friends'. Should they go off to some other group where they don't
know anyone, just to please you ? Sometimes, real engineers just want to
'chat amongst themselves' about things in which they have a mutual interest,
which may not be directly repair related. Provided that this takes place
generally within existing threads, I don't see that it impacts on the
validity of the group as being one primarily for repair topics, at all.
Just as a matter of interest, other than playing at usenet policeman, just
what exactly do you consider your function on here to be ? I don't recall
ever having seen you make a constructive repair reply to any poster. Do you
even have an electronics repair background ? Your normal input is just to
tell people that their post is unwelcome, and to clear off to a different
group ...
Arfa
jakdedert
> "Michael Black" <et...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
> news:feqnh4$4eo$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>> (ZZa...@aol.com) writes:
>>> Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove
>>> myself, my Sansui fried
>>>
>> And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here.
>>
>> This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else.
>>
>> Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy
>> ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt
>> and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline
>> of this newsgroup.
>>
>> Michael
> Just as a matter of interest, other than playing at usenet policeman, just
> what exactly do you consider your function on here to be ? I don't recall
> ever having seen you make a constructive repair reply to any poster. Do you
> even have an electronics repair background ? Your normal input is just to
> tell people that their post is unwelcome, and to clear off to a different
> group ...
>
Bingo! This is the heart of the matter. Nobody named 'Michael' has
ever, TTBOMK, contributed anything of value to this forum. I myself
have contributed damn little beyond anecdotal advice; but I have learned
much from the masters here. That would not include Michael, whomever he is.
I suggest to him, that he get a life and quit trying to run others'.....
jak
> Arfa
>
>
>
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net
> Arfa Daily wrote:
> > "Michael Black" <et...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
> >news:feqnh4$4eo$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>
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If you check Michael's profile, he has posted more than 14,000 times
in the past couple of years to every single usenet group. The
internet is his life, poor soul.
The original Poster did post a strange sort of message, but that's
still no excuse for the kind of reply he received from Michael.
H. R;l (Bob) Hofmann
Paul Feaker
I don't recall a time when you told somebody how to fix their tv or
whatever every time I read a post from you you're bitching about
somebody's else's posts because you're too much of a retard to actually
input some useful information.
Go start your own newsgroup you fucking faggot.
ZZa...@aol.com
You know what, I'll show you what kind of jerk I am. My IQ is around
200 what the fuck is your's ? I can do the math to build an amp like
this in my head, can you ?
All you know is fucking Google for this and Google for that. You know
nothing, you depend on outside sources, while I find my own, and have
all my life.
Don't bring that fucked up brain to a battle of wits with me. While I
admit I had a buzz on when I posted this, the idea is clear. And it is
really strange that using Google is what gets me here. What's more I
doubt you comprehend search engines better than me, I had a four word
string that came up with ONE result. The four words are available to
those in my good favor.
Get off your high horse and uncall me a jerk. Then we can talk.
Just your one statement gave me your whole life. I know how you are
and I know how to hurt you. Am I still a jerk or not ?
I will get to the rest of the responses ASAP.
For the rest of you, I really don't like to get like this with people,
but this is usenet, and you never know where someone is. I can incite
this guy to want to kill me, I can simply tell him where I live. I
even have help to get rid of the body.
I do not know how to use Google ? for what ? A circuit design ? Hell
no. Mine is better, it autocompensates for varying supply voltages,
and there is not a single capacitor in the circuit. So the supply
voltage can change fast, and that is what I want.
OK, I will start another reply here, this guy got his, now I go read
the rest.
And Lynn, you are obviously young, I have no doubt. Learn. You have
not the power to embarrass me,I am secure in my achievements and my
holdings.
When you call off work and tell them straight out you took off
because you did a bunch of coke the other night you might be able to
tell me who has skills.
I do not want anyoine else's design, I want MINE.
I settle for no less. And I can Google with the best of them. Do not
fuck with me again Lynn.
T
Be Back Soon.
Michael Kennedy
"jakdedert" <jakd...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:nzdQi.1708$Ia....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
I didn't think that I had never contributed anything... I don't think I have
contributed a lot since I'm not an electronics engineer, but every now and
then I help answer easy questions that passer byes ask like whats wrong with
my LCD monitor. :)
Mike
ZZa...@aol.com
I have met some good people here Bill Jr and Leonard come to mind.
They both have helped me out, as have others. I try to help people
when I can. If this bullshit does not stop all the good people will
leave, leave the morons to their own means, which amounts to nothing.
let me tell all the motherfuckers around here about just who I am . I
am also JURB6006. I have been published all over the web, and even
though they caught it in this newsgroup doesn't mean credit goes to
this newsgroup. I have been to pay sites at work and seen my own
posts. As such I don't have to take shit from anyone.
I decided to post a post about the amp I am going to build, you got a
fucking problem with it, answer one fucking question; do you own
usenet ? Do you even own sci.electronics.repair ? Can you even type
that ? I just did.
And amma fuckin tellya one more thing, people who fix electronics know
alot more about certain aspects of it. And that is why the post is
here. If anyone doesn't like it I have a fucking perfect solution for
you, when your mouse pointer is over a thread you don't like, DO NOT
CLICK IT ! It is treally that fucking simple.
My next post is going to deal with the specifics of the analog
algorithms used in the power limiting system. The fucking peanut
gallery will shut up. Ideally I would like to get it to set itself,
detect the peak in current that is always precedent to a woofer
blowing.
Anyone who wants to flame me can go to work for eight bucks an hour.
This is higher reasoning and I put it here for good reason. My reason.
AND this is not
sci.geteveryassholesopiniononwhatbelongshere.lynnsspace.
Boil it all down, anybody who says I shouldn't post this here can go
fuck themselves, I have every right to be here and I have helped many.
If you think that bullshit and you think you are some kind of police
or something I will give you my home address, and when you get here
you will leave with a 327 Chey V8 camshaft up your ass, guaranteed,
and if you think you might like that, we can use your throat instead.
Just ask.
Just ask.
I won't bother to sign this, you knoiw who it is from.
ZZa...@aol.com
I have been thinking about this algorithm, this is a bit new to me,
but I do want to persue it.
OK this is a bit of a complicated situation, but the engineering can
be of great benefit. My speakers are Boston Acoustic A150s with the
addition of four ohm subwoofers on each side. I have no desire to
biamp them, and I wouldn't mind having a really great amp.
I can't let those 65 volt rails near my speakers, but....
First of all I would like to have the dynamic range reproduced
transparently until and unless the unit is cranked, and the does mean
significant power of course, and it also means a smooth transisition
from real to managed dynamic range when the power linits are
exceeded.
But do they have to be set or can they be detected ? I am sure it can
be done with woofers, but what about the mids and tweets ? I like
bass, but not to the exclusion of the rest of the sound.
Those who know, in an amp you have the main feedback resistors, a
divider network that sets the gain. at the point where the cap goes to
ground, is my circuit. It is a short circuit until needed, then it can
reduce the voltage gain of the whole stage.
For one it will always be triggered by clipping, and that comes either
at 200 something a channel or some lower limit set. Then it also
monitors abrupt increases in current in the bass regions. Now if it is
running in cranked mode, it also handles the dynamic range. The power
regultors will allow short bursts, even of full power if the impedance
of the speaker does not drop like rock. When that happens, it charges
a capacitor, which limits further incursion into the power range that
can kill the speakers. It doesn't lowr the average power setting that
the user determined, just the allowed headroom.
I think I need these regulators to operate at least at 150Khz or so,
and designing that part is no joke.The thing is what to do with it. I
mean how do you determine how much power is too much ?
While I think dynamic midranges and tweeters can be detected the same
way, and intend to implement multiband detection, I do not want
multiband control. If any speaker is in danger I want the gain cut.
All of it, I do not want to affect the frequency response.
More later.
JURB
Michael Black
when it was loaded with posts about repair.
I read it to learn, and posted when I had something to contribute.
I've had enough posts here, and hey, there's even a snippet of
one of mine in the FAQ.
But like so many other newsgroups, it's turning into a hangout for
people who can't be bothered finding the right newsgroup.
The "proof" of someone's value to a newsgroup is not how many posts
they make. Because some people with too much time on their hands
decide they'll hang out in a newsgroup, and post all kinds of off-topic
junk. They rack up massive posting history in that newsgroup (and
too often don't post anywhere else), but they often don't have that
much to say on topic.
The newsgroup becomes their hangout, and they don't care what
the original intent of the newsgroup was.
The lack of on topic messages makes people tune out, the
"regulars" don't notice, because they are too busy hanging out.
Indeed, those "regulars" are likely shorter time posters than
the people who leave.
And the fewer people who read a newsgroup means the fewer people
who are around to reply when someone needs something. The pool
of people who can answer is diminished. Just because a handful
are oh so quick to respond to every post at any hour of the
day does not mean they are the best people to answer all questions.
Someone who traced the linear/power supply board in the Mac Plus
years ago won't be of much value when someone asks about it if
they are no longer reading the newsgroup.
Some specific bit of knowledge may come up rarely, but the
moment someone asks about that area, you'd better hope they
are still reading the newsgroup.
If the hotshot "regulars" so badly want to answer every single
post, then let them find the proper newsgroup.
When so much of the posting is off-topic, it's not really a surprise
that I have nothing "worth" posting about.
While ironically, there is nothing much to post about in the proper
place either, because they aren't getting the on-topic posts either.
I can remember when sci.electronics was split. "Too much traffic"
some complaind about. It was rather brisk, but then I was using
a 2400 baud modem and had no more than an hour a day access
to the BBS where I was reading the newsgroups.
But what we have now is lots of newsgroups, and half the time
people don't even post in the right place. I don't read .design
any more because it became a hangout, the swaggering of the "regulars"
who took over the newsgroup, who "decided" it was acceptable to
post all kinds of junk. The fact that there is a lot of political
junk in there is both a cause and effect, because they decided
it was acceptable and then hey, one thing people fight about
is politics. But then all kinds of beginners post there because
"this has the most traffic".
Meanwhile, there is a perfectly good newsgroup for .basic posts,
and it's pretty empty because nobody much is using it for its
intended purpose. There's one about .components and it's underused,
and so on. There area load and loads of newsgroups to discuss
computers, and places to discuss vacuum tubes.
We might as well all fold into One Big Newsgroup if people can't
be bothered to use the proper ones.
ANd hey, when idiots post in the wrong newsgroup, they hurt
themselves. Any beginner who posts in .design is likely to
get an answer that isn't useful to them. Someone who posts
here about a computer problem is relying on someone incidentally
having knowledge that can solve it. Find the right place,
and you increase your chances of getting a useful answer.
Most of the newsgroups I read, I've read daily for over a decade.
I've added some, a handful I've tuned into for a relatively short
time, but most of the newsgroups I read today I was reading a decade
ago. But increasingly I am tuning out. Not because of spam, not
even because of the too often massive cross-posting. I don't tune
out because there's no traffic (some get a handful of posts
every few months).
No, I tune out when it becomes a hangout. People more interested
in arguing among themselves than talking to each other. People
bored with the purpose of the newsgroup, who still stick around
instead of finding the proper place, so they post about the weather
and politics and their computer problems and everything else.
And in each of those newsgroups, I have a "big enough" posting
history. I also have a long enough reading history. But hey, it's
dwarfed by the people who rack up thousands of messages in a few years, but
much of which isn't on topic.
If I wanted to read general purpose newsgroups, I'd read the local
newsgroup (which ironically I do, but it's not being used much).
Most people don't realize how a newsgroup declines, because they
aren't paying attention. And by the time it is noticeable by many,
it's too late.
Michael
Lynn
I got an even bette idea. How about you go fuck yourself?
the original poster has posted here several times and is well
repected.
What have you posted here besides your bitching?
Fleetie
> Apart from the obvious spam posts, which almost all groups suffer from, and
Well said, Arfa!
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fleetie
John Todd
ZZa...@aol.com says...
>But this is more advanced, I want the power supply to tradck the
audio, and provide a PREDETERMINED amount of extra power for a very
short time.
Power supply tracking audio, implemented in analog--in its
simplest form, this is a description of an audio amp! How will you
prevent the introduction of distortion?
Arfa Daily
You know, if you had a valid point with respect to this particular group, I
might be persuaded to go along with you, but over the years that I have
'hung out' on here as you so quaintly put it, I have seen no signs of any
kind of general decline. In fact, I would go as far as to say that this
newsgroup is a shining example of one that continues to exist for its
primary purpose of helping people with their repair problems, and is
absolutely the right place for anyone with a repair-related question. The
vast majority of posts to this group - and there are a good number most
days - are absolutely 'on-topic' by your very limited criteria, and get
dealt with by one or many of the very good people who 'hang out' on here,
and have a huge raft of both specialist and general electronic knowledge
gained by a lifetime either as a professional or serious hobbyist.
I, and I'm sure many others who 'hang out' on here, resent your implication
that we are internet saddos who live to jump on every post, and collect as
many posting statistics as possible. I come on here, as part of my
professional life, because I feel that 35 years of experience in the repair
business, is worth offering to amateurs, hobbyists and less or differently
experienced professional service engineers. I genuinely enjoy helping
others, and I'm pretty sure that most of the other regulars on here, do as
well. I also come here to continue to learn from others differently
experienced from myself, as I'm certain many of the other regulars do.
If you are active in a useful way on all of the newsgroups that you claim,
and you honestly believe that this one is in terminal decline, then perhaps
you should just leave, as you keep threatening to do. Perhaps you should
also stop and consider the old phrase "If things don't change, they'll stay
as they are ..." Nothing in this world stands still. Everything evolves,
and not always for what we might all consider to be the better. Usenet is no
exception. There is now a much wider spectrum of people who know that Usenet
exists, and have found out how to get access to it. That in itself changes
the nature of the beast. Accept it. Get over it. Move with the times.
And if you can't, then really do consider departing to a group where there
*are* problems, and your dissenting voice might be better heard and received
...
Arfa
ZZa...@aol.com
one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it.
I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it
but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what
to tell you.
What about the nike guy ?
Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on
avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. Fuck this place.
Terminator
Paul Feaker
<ZZa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192382431....@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on
> avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. Fuck this place.
>
> Terminator
>
That's right tough guy;
Go Home and Cry.
Lynn
> <ZZac...@aol.com> wrote in message
Got that right. Go somewhere where theres a moderator so nobody can
hurt your precious little feelings. Nobody wants you around here
anyway you big baby.
Paul Feaker
"Lynn" <allisonisaco...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1192387534.8...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
I wonder what the moderators at that "form where all of the good techs are
on" are going to if he posts a death threat like he did earlier in this
thread?
Lynn
> "Lynn" <allisonisacockhungrys...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm not worried one bit. I've seen this happen so many times over the
years. He's just another one of those people that think they are so
hard behind their anonymous computer screens and think they can kick
anybody's ass but when they are actually about to get a smack across
their face they threaten the other person with assult charges and
lawsuits.
He might be able to build amplifiers and write operating systems and
find a cure for AIDS but street smarts? Not likely.
Lynn
"Y'all"
I guess I can forget about my theory of you living in your mother's
basement jerking off to fat bitches on Flickr.
Apparently you live in a trailer and fuck your fat cousin.
Arfa Daily
"Fleetie" <fle...@fleetie.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Nv6dneJRTazr3Y_a...@bt.com...
Hey Fleetie ! Long time no hear from. Good to see you on here. How's it
going ?
Arfa
Arfa Daily
<ZZa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192382431....@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
??????????????????????????????
Nobody was talking about you
Arfa
jakdedert
> Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this
> one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it.
>
> I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it
> but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what
> to tell you.
>
> What about the nike guy ?
>
bot makes those posts, and any replies are only mental masturbation.
> Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on
> avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. Fuck this place.
>
Since you're already gone, I guess it's too late to say, 'Mind the door
doesn't hit you in the ass on the way out....'
jak
> Terminator
>
>
Paul Feaker
If I had to say some last words to the guy it would don't drop the soap in
the shower.
jakdedert
Go away.
jak
Paul Feaker
> Paul Feakerwrote:
> > "jakdedert" <jakded...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >news:gHvQi.3759$m8....@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> >> ZZac...@aol.com wrote:
> >>> Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this
> >>> one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it.
>
> >>> I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it
> >>> but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what
> >>> to tell you.
>
> >>> What about the nike guy ?
>
> >> What about him? Do you really believe he's reading your rantings? A bot
> >> makes those posts, and any replies are only mental masturbation.
>
> >>> Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on
> >>> avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. Fuck this place.
>
> >> Since you're already gone, I guess it's too late to say, 'Mind the door
> >> doesn't hit you in the ass on the way out....'
>
> >> jak
>
> > If I had to say some last words to the guy it would don't drop the soap in
> > the shower.
>
> What is it about a single flamer-tard that brings 'em out of the woodwork?
>
> Go away.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Stick it you fucking jerk.
ZZa...@aol.com
dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good shit.
And this death threat, I give you my name and address, you come to
kill me, that is when you get the body bag. Want the address ? I will
give it out right here on usenet.
All you boys and gurls who do not like me, go on with your life. I
mean that. And remember, I make twice as much as you, and when you
make twice as much, I will make twice as much as that. THAT IS BECAUSE
I LEARN. I DO NOT OFFEND MY BENFACTORS, AND IF YOU'RE IQ IS OVER
FUCKING 30 YOU SHOULD SEE THAT I AM A BENEFICIAL INFLUENCE IN THIS
GROUP, AND REALIZE THAT WE DID NOT DRAG YOU HERE KICKING AND SCREAMING
IN CHAINS OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT.
SO, YOU STUPID PEOPLE HERE, STOP BITING MY HAND OR I WON'T GIVE YOU
ANY MORE FOOD.
I normally do not show "attitude" like that, but it was time.
And note, not one response dealing with the technical issues I raised
WHICH DO BELONG HERE. I AM TRYING TO PREVENT FAILURE, WHO THE FUUCK
BETTER TO ASK THAN THOSE WHO DEAL WITH THOSE FAILURES ?
SCI.ELECTRONICS.REPAIR
SCI.ELECTRONICS.REPAIR, get it ? I am trying NOT TO BLOW SPEAKERS.
THAT IS A FAILURE WHICH WOULD REQUIRE REPAIR. Who the fuck does not
get it ? And why is all this shit down my fucking throat when we got
idiots selling fucking tennis shoes in here and a $6 make you $25,000
and all this shit.
Even if my thread is off topic, in light of all this spam, WHY THE
FUCK CAN SOMEONE LIVE WHO IS SO STUPID TO FUCK WITH ME, WITH THIS
OTHER SHIT GOING ON ? WHY, tell me why.
If you are really stooopid enough to do damage, harm someone or even
kill someone over a usenet post, I will freeley meet you somewhere.
Bring a gun, you will need it. But I am not here for this shit.
It seems stupid people are in vogue here. My buddies still come, but
they just like me, are sick of the spamming. So you hecklers who want
to run me off of her, not thayt you will ever succeed, are basically
killing usenet. Go ahead. Do as thou wilt, oops, that continues "if it
hurts no other". Oops.
It is simple, the same fucking asshole types who think they own
usenet, think they own the roads as well. I am sure of it. They will
stop and block as many lanes as they please, and then they will also
risk ten or more lives for a few seconds of their own precious time.
They think only of the consequences to thamself.
That is a shame.
I will decide later if I will ever pollute YOUR newsgroup with
anything at all. I'll just go pull in the thousnd a day PART TIME.
When you need help and it is not there, go flip burgers.
fuck it
I fucking told you.
TERMINATOR.
BTW, the death threat, come to kill me, I wioll meet you. Bring your
own bag, and I want one with a handle, it'll be hundreds of feet to
where you get buried.
Yup, some death threat, come to kill me.
BTW, don't come and ask to hear your favorite song on my stereo after
this amp is built.
Done deal.
Lynn
> Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug
> dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good shit.
and you're smoking the best shit apparently.
>
> BTW, the death threat, come to kill me, I wioll meet you. Bring your
> own bag, and I want one with a handle, it'll be hundreds of feet to
> where you get buried.
>
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? oh, that's right you're a
Usenet tough guy. Of course, as we have all seen before, you talk like
your all hard but I bet the first person that actually clocks you in
that big mouth of yours you'll run hundreds of feet to find the
nearest authority figure to have that person arrested or threaten to
sue.
> Yup, some death threat, come to kill me.
>
Who's coming to kill you. We enjoy laughing at you. Who the fuck is
going to build an amp when they can just buy one? Of course! somebody
who's a Genius. Since he's so smart he doesn't have to use his AOL
(snickers) account to ask any questions on a forum which he then
banishes himself from.
John Todd
ZZa...@aol.com says...
(snip)
So, Jurb, if your power supply tracks the audio, and your system is
basically analog, how will you prevent distortion being introduced?
I repeat the question, I think 1st time it got lost in the blather.
Cheers
Fleetie
> Hey Fleetie ! Long time no hear from. Good to see you on here. How's it going ?
>
> Arfa
Oh, you know. Been posting some rants every now and again; it's
cathartic when I'm in a bad mood! Had the worst day at work
for some time today. I FELT *ROUGH*. Mondays shouldn't be allowed.
Yeah, can't complain. Well, I can but it never does any fucking good!
Hope you're ok.
Martin
Arfa Daily
why I guess I haven't caught up with you lately. I'll try and find the time
soon to see what everyone's up to. I got a bit hacked off before with all
the flame wars and pointless rants about £1000 cables and so on ...
Arfa
Michael Kennedy
"Meat Plow" <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:1ast1m....@news.alt.net...
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:41:00 -0700, ZZactly wrote:
>
>> Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug
>> dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good shit.
>
> Stuff a fucking sock in it already. Your a smart person, don't ruin it
> with these temper tantrums.
>
Whats with all of these people now posting on here as soon as there is a
chance to piss someone off. All Lynn ever posts is youtube crap an tells
people to google. I've never seen Paul Freaker or John Todd before.. Its
like trolls just smell this stuff from 100 miles away and come running in to
piss everyone off.
I agree with Meat Plow, You are a smart person and don't fall prey to these
stupid trolls.
Michael Kennedy
"Michael Kennedy" <Mike...@remthis.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:tPSdnVvIPsDgtYna...@comcast.com...
Sorry John Todd.. I see you have a valid question.. My mistake.. I'm not
here to piss anyone off. And Paul sorry if you are a normal as well.. I was
just looking at names that happened to be in the arguement that I didn't
know... However I do know lynn posts crap all the time.
Lynn
wrote:
> "Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
I saw John Todd sucking your mother's cock.
Lynn
wrote:
> "Michael Kennedy" <Mikek...@remthis.comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:tPSdnVvIPsDgtYna...@comcast.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
> >news:1ast1m....@news.alt.net...
> >> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:41:00 -0700, ZZactly wrote:
>
> >>> Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug
> >>> dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good shit.
> >> <snip>
>
> >> Stuff a fucking sock in it already. Your a smart person, don't ruin it
> >> with these temper tantrums.
>
> > Whats with all of these people now posting on here as soon as there is a
> > chance to piss someone off. All Lynn ever posts is youtube crap an tells
> > people to google. I've never seen Paul Freaker or John Todd before.. Its
> > like trolls just smell this stuff from 100 miles away and come running in
> > to piss everyone off.
>
> > I agree with Meat Plow, You are a smart person and don't fall prey to
> > these stupid trolls.
>
> Sorry John Todd.. I see you have a valid question.. My mistake.. I'm not
> here to piss anyone off. And Paul sorry if you are a normal as well.. I was
> just looking at names that happened to be in the arguement that I didn't
>
> - Show quoted text -
and you're posting crap right now. As far as telling people to Google,
I see you telling people to Google all the time yourself.
Fleetie
> Yeah, all OK here. I haven't been over on uk.rec.audio for a while, which is why I guess I haven't caught up with you lately.
> I'll try and find the time soon to see what everyone's up to. I got a bit hacked off before with all the flame wars and
> pointless rants about £1000 cables and so on ...
>
> Arfa
I'm afraid you'll find it's deteriorated even more. There are
fewer serious contributors now, I think, and it's half been
taken over by a load of nutters from aus.hi-fi, for reasons
unclear to me. These are grown men in their fifties and sixties
waging never-ending hate campaigns against each other with a
level of puerility and malice that exceeds even what you used to
find a few years ago - which was already pretty high.
Phil Allison occasionally posts some good flames to ukra; personally
I find them hilarious, but most don't share that opinion.
I can't remember the last time I bothered posting there.
Arfa Daily
OK, maybe I won't bother then. It's a shame though, coz there were some good
people on there, and I used to enjoy the discussions even when they reached
the 'heated exchange' level, but I couldn't be doing with the endless
descent of threads into moronic profanity-slinging and violence-promising
matches. I also never really understood Phil. He is clearly a clever bloke
in the field during his lucid times. I have seen very valid replies to
posters' questions, with a level of technical content which demonstrates
this fact. It can go on for several replies over a week or so, and then
suddenly, something often undetectable sets light to him, and it's as though
he is a completely different person. It's very strange ... Still, takes all
sorts, I guess. So what are you up to for a job now ? What was winding you
up about Monday ?
Arfa
James Sweet
> OK, maybe I won't bother then. It's a shame though, coz there were some
> good
> people on there, and I used to enjoy the discussions even when they
> reached the 'heated exchange' level, but I couldn't be doing with the
> endless descent of threads into moronic profanity-slinging and
> violence-promising matches. I also never really understood Phil. He is
> clearly a clever bloke in the field during his lucid times. I have seen
> very valid replies to posters' questions, with a level of technical
> content which demonstrates this fact. It can go on for several replies
> over a week or so, and then suddenly, something often undetectable sets
> light to him, and it's as though he is a completely different person. It's
> very strange ... Still, takes all sorts, I guess. So what are you up to
> for a job now ? What was winding you up about Monday ?
>
Probably an alcoholic. I've dealt with a few of those in other groups I'm
in. From time to time they'll be valuable contributors, but then they'll go
off on some drunken rant that leaves everyone wondering what's going on.
Arfa Daily
"James Sweet" <james...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TEdRi.4108$W22.3296@trndny04...
nasty these days, and not the 'free love' inducer that it was back in '67
... Cannabis got downgraded here to "C" I think, but a lot of people have
said that it shouldn't have been, because the variety that's sold now is
like ten times more potent and ultimately dangerous than the 'old' stuff
was. It has been linked to a lot of violent crime, and ultimate mental
disorders, particularly schizophrenia.
Arfa
Arfa
Fleetie
> discussions even when they reached the 'heated exchange' level, but I couldn't be doing with the endless descent of threads into
> moronic profanity-slinging and violence-promising matches. I also never really understood Phil. He is clearly a clever bloke in
> the field during his lucid times. I have seen very valid replies to posters' questions, with a level of technical content which
> demonstrates this fact. It can go on for several replies over a week or so, and then suddenly, something often undetectable sets
> light to him, and it's as though he is a completely different person. It's very strange ... Still, takes all sorts, I guess. So
> what are you up to for a job now ? What was winding you up about Monday ?
I was just very tired and queasy from having too much to drink
on Sunday, which was a bit of a crisis day, but it's all sorted now.
As for my job - well, boring. Pure computer programming, and not
in a scientific/(non-software)-engineering field. I was brought up
and educated as a scientist/engineer, so I find it deeply unfulfilling to
be writing business software. You can imagine. Let's just leave it there;
I find it depressing to think and talk about.
Arfa Daily
Fair enough. At least Monday was bad for a good and valid reason ! OK on the
job. Yes, I thought that you had a scientific background. Still, needs be as
needs must, as they say. Good to hear from you again, and nice to have
another engineering mind hanging around the group. Jump in with some
opinions sometimes - it would be good to hear another voice. I always used
to enjoy your posts over on ukra
Arfa
Fleetie
pf...@aol.com
> Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove
> myself, my Sansui fried
With respect, search down and find a good, properly maintained Dynaco
ST-416. All that you describe in addition to brute-force capacity. You
can set your limiting factors from a (relatively) few watts of
headroom to no limits at all. Stable to 2 ohms nominal impedance -
meaning that it will sustain dead-shorts without internal damage. And
the 200wpc/rms @ 8 ohms is nothing to sneeze at.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
James Sweet
> Possibly. That or dope maybe. I understand that some of that can be quite
> nasty these days, and not the 'free love' inducer that it was back in '67
> ... Cannabis got downgraded here to "C" I think, but a lot of people have
> said that it shouldn't have been, because the variety that's sold now is
> like ten times more potent and ultimately dangerous than the 'old' stuff
> was. It has been linked to a lot of violent crime, and ultimate mental
> disorders, particularly schizophrenia.
Well this is certainly going off topic there, but the people I've known who
are into that stuff are pretty harmless, they just get quiet and fall
asleep, about the worst damage I've seen is all the Cheetos are gone in the
morning.
Arfa Daily
That's what I used to think too, but apparently, the stuff that's sold now
is an altogether different variety that has real and measurable
brain-rotting characteristics, and does finish up putting many of its users
in the local mental institution. Perhaps it just enhances an existing
predisposition to suffering mental health problems. It's just what I'm
reading week after week in my sunday papers, and the sudden irrational and
violent-sounding behaviour of these people seemed to fit ...
Arfa
jakdedert
"If you wanna know about the mad punk rockers
If you wanna know how to play guitar
If you wanna know 'bout any other suckers
You can read it in the Sunday papers
Read it in the Sunday papers
Chorus:
Sunday papers don't ask no questions
Sunday papers don't dead no lies
Sunday papers don't raise objections
Sunday papers ain't got no eyes"
Joe Jackson: Sunday Papers"
Consider the source.....
jak
> Arfa
>
>
>
James Sweet
"Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:VCZRi.17424$0z6....@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
There's a lot of really scary crap out there these days, whether the pot is
any different than it used to be I don't know, but there's no telling what
*else* kids are using.
ZZa...@aol.com
Incidentally, when the people show up with spam, how come there are no
responses. I could be accused of being off topic, and this death
threat thing I just don't get. All the people who want to bitch about
me, and basically call me a bitch, well they hide under the same
anonymity I do. And for street smarts, I am not even going into it.
Want my name and address ?
I thought we could have an intelligent discussion about amplifier
power and a few other things relating to getting the maximum
performance without having anything fail. Perhaps some people do not
see the logic in starting such a discussion in a newsgroup where
people generally deal with failures of electronic equipment all the
time.
I see one person wanted to discuss the subject. But first the death
threat. I stated that if someone wanted to kill me I have people to
help me get rid of the body. That is a threat to defend myself. If you
take it another way you must be some kind of defective. Call me from
the airport or bus terminal in Cleveland and we will surely discuss
this "death threat".
Of all this bullshit bitching about me, nobody seems to do anything
about the spammers. But I am all they can get to. And nobody here can
hurt my feeling I assure you ALL. You might annot me with your
bullshit, but that is a part of life. You can't hurt me from here. You
can't hurt me from here either. Get the point ? My ego is not false.
Now I would like to make a request. I request that any motherfucker
who cannot design or build an amplifier get the fuck out. You SAW the
FUCKING SUBJECT OF THE POST. If you do not like this thread get the
fuck out. That is it. I have every right to be here. I have every
right to make this thread, and nobody is going to stop me.
Now there was one poster who seemed to be interested in the subject.
Now the others will see. You want to see a jerk, a bozo ?
Bye thread.
Terminator
ZZa...@aol.com
Now I have the power supply to hold the rails at 65-68 volts, but I
can't pump that much into my speakers. They are 2.33 ohms. I have
plenty of woofers which I like, but I might add some tops in the
future. In the mid and treble regions they are more like 6 ohms right
now.
Now alot of talk and engineering has been given to protecting woofers.
In fact the relay that cuts out on a normal amp does so when there is
a DC offset, the DC would never make it to the tweeters. But I have
blown some anyway.
Now I envision the circuit, three output pairs per channel, and
paralell FETs as switching regulators. I have no problem designing the
PWM circuit or the amplifier stages, what the problem is, is how
exactly to control the power.
If I detect the output power and set the regulators to be able to
provide a short burst of power for a number of milliseconds, perhaps
12 Db or so above the base output level, the question becomes how many
milliseconds ? And what "rechanrge" time ? And then how to integrate
time to avoid overheating the speakers.
I know this is not easy, even if it reduced to the simplest terms, but
I know this mich, when it is cranked, if you edge the power down by
20% it is likely noone will notice, as long as it doesn't distort. The
anti distortion circuit is going to be in place. The best way then, as
long as sufficient headroom exists is to regulate the rails down.
Otherwise things will run hotter.
I'm also looking for ideas on cooling. I am starting to think that the
heatsink and fan for a modern microprocessor might do well. If this is
feasible, the bulk is cut down. Instead of heat sinks there could be
an array of these HS/fan combos. One for each transistor. OK that
might mean 24 of them, but I want what I want.
I also intend to do this without anything digital except for maybe a
few gate ICs. You can't buy sometrhing like this.
I do not put digital in the audio path, a view shared by some
manufacturers who still use motoized volume controls. Or used to. The
EQ will be analog, as will the gain stage for the gain limiting. When
the EQ is set flat and the unit is not overdriven it will function as
a straight line. A wire with gain.
So any ideas other than going and fucking myself are welcome.
JURB
Jitt
ZZa...@aol.com says...
>> (snip)
>If I detect the output power and set the regulators to be able to
> provide a short burst of power for a number of milliseconds, perhaps
> 12 Db or so above the base output level, the question becomes how many
> milliseconds ? And what "rechanrge" time ? And then how to integrate
> time to avoid overheating the speakers.
>
> I know this is not easy, even if it reduced to the simplest terms, but
> I know this mich, when it is cranked, if you edge the power down by
> 20% it is likely noone will notice, as long as it doesn't distort. The
> anti distortion circuit is going to be in place. The best way then, as
> long as sufficient headroom exists is to regulate the rails down.
> Otherwise things will run hotter.
So, a long time-constant (sub-audio) continuous sensing circuit, or
a digital sample at a constant (say,.25sec) interval, with presets for
boosted, normal, and reduced levels. On the face of it, the digital
sample would be less likely to cause distortion in the output.
Interesting concept, Jurb
This makes me think of a high power compressor!
Jamie
with out going into great details. It seems that you are interested
in a class D amplifier ?
That type of amp is a PWM systems where you must recreate the sine
wave via the PWM system. The problem with all of this is, you need a
high carrier to be able to cover the complete audio spectrum.
The last one I looked at which was only a low power unit, used a
500 Khz carrier. It would be nice to have something in the line of
2 mhz and up how ever, you'll run into issues with generating R.F.
illegally.
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
Jitt
jamie_ka1lpa_not_v...@charter.net says...
> ZZa...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > >(snip)
> in a class D amplifier ?
> That type of amp is a PWM systems where you must recreate the sine
> wave via the PWM system. The problem with all of this is, you need a
> high carrier to be able to cover the complete audio spectrum.
> The last one I looked at which was only a low power unit, used a
> 500 Khz carrier. It would be nice to have something in the line of
> 2 mhz and up how ever, you'll run into issues with generating R.F.
> illegally.
>
>
>
OP wants to implement the amplifier itself in
analogue. I think he will accept some digital controls.
ZZa...@aol.com
three things I did when I was twenty I still would not be out of
prison. I was fucking born on the streets, go ahead and say it shows.
C'mon over pussy, let's have a look at your busted cheekbone.
You fucking tell me ? Oh man that is soooooo stoooopud. I have a
veritable army more willing to die for me than the army soldiers are
for Bush. The cops REFUSE to take me to jail. I don't got street
smarts ? I'll tell you what else, although I would never do it I got a
guy down in Kentucky, a hacker, oops Hacker, who can find out who yall
are. He knows that shit and makes about eighty grand a year. That is
one of my "people". Talk death threats ? Remember I said I would never
do it.
I will not go home, I will not cry. People fucking with me are very
very stooooooooooopid. I know what I am doing and I know alot of other
people who know what they are doing. Fuck wuith me, come on, do it !
I don't fuck with people and I didn't. I asked some questions about an
audio amp design. Geezus fucking christ. I wanted some input from
people who may have had to deal with blown speakers and amps, why the
fuck is that more off topic then CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP ?
People who do not like this thread, why don't youi go pick on that
MF ?
I am a 47 year old Man with a gun, and the knowledge to use it. I also
studied varied martial arts for about ten years. I will give you my
home address, at which time you will have the chance to do something
really stupid. I don't take shit from anyone, that's what my Father
taught me. It backfired on him, because at times I wouldn't take his
shit.
Now does any one want to fucking talk about amplifier design ? I am
sick of this back and forth shit about whether or not this post
belongs here and the back and forth of it. Shut the fuck up.
I have every right to be here, and fuck you if you disagree. It really
is that simple. What about my amp ? I have not heard one single thing
that would be helpful from this group, just a bunch of whiney bitches
complaining about what belongs where. They have no idea, I am an SER
denzin. Ask Sam.
Your bickering will stop or I will crash this website. You don't think
I can do it, well let me enlighten your tight little asses.
If I boot from the Linux CD, there is a parameter I can set, that
makes the OS hit a website continuously. Windows and other OSes do
that as well because you just don't hit every time on the web. Most of
the time it is set to 5. But if I set it to 500 I can crash any
website I click on, I can even set it to 5000 and clog up more shit.
So I need to go home crying when nobody can discuss the complex
subjects I bring up ? THINK AGAIN. I can make this place gone.
So let's start over, Hello, I am JURB and I would like to build an amp
that does not destroy speakers. Would anyone like to share their
comments or ideas ?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Anything else is another matter. You
are not playing with fucking kids here, I can guarantee that.
Thank you.
T
ZZa...@aol.com
Terminator
Smitty Two
ZZa...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Your bickering will stop or I will crash this website. You don't think
> I can do it, well let me enlighten your tight little asses.
This is a website? I'm more confused than I thought.
Paige D'Winter
ur gona crash a website with ur a0l account u need to get a life u r a
sad pathetic lonely loser social reject u need jesus in u r heart.
Paige D'Winter
> In article <1193026322.876783.244...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> ZZac...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Your bickering will stop or I will crash this website. You don't think
> > I can do it, well let me enlighten your tight little asses.
>
> This is a website? I'm more confused than I thought.
hes drunck becuz he doesent hav jesus in his heart he needs 2 get a
life becuz he is a sad lonely pathetic loser emo 15 yer old social
reject.
Marra
One important design stage was the output protection.
I added a microcontroller circuit that looked at the output signal and
switched off a relay if a fault condition was found.
When my set up uses £200 worth of speakers then it is important to
protect them.
Anonymous Coward
>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
Uh oh, looks like somebody has their angry pants on. Tell us all,
just how much time exactly do you spend wishing for the death of other
people online? Would you say it consumes most of your daily thought
process or is it just an idle itch that creeps up every now and again
and forces you blurt out obscenities like some kind of a demented
Tourettes' case?
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
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"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
I have Tourettes
and you sound just as f*cked up as the troll you are trying to chastise. Now
I know why they say birds of a feather eh?
"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:vtovh3d1gocptofq9...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:24:58 +0100, Anonymous Coward <no...@none.none>
> wrote:
>
>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
>>
>>Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
>
> Uh oh, looks like somebody has their angry pants on. Tell us all,
> just how much time exactly do you spend wishing for the death of other
> people online? Would you say it consumes most of your daily thought
> process or is it just an idle itch that creeps up every now and again
> and forces you blurt out obscenities like some kind of a demented
> Tourettes' case?
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ą x ą
Anonymous Coward
Second thoughts, since you have such a stunted brain the size of your
pain receptors will be much reduced also. You may not feel a thing,
which is something you've been telling any female you manage to liquor
up and get into bed.
Are you going to wait it out and cling onto life while wasting slowly
away or will you grab a gun and put yourself out of your misery?
Onideus Mad Hatter
<nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>He<COCK SLAP>
I'm sorry, but people who don't know how to properly reply to posts on
Usenet (without fucking up thread continuity) are simply NOT ALLOWED
to have a direct reply from me about whatever pathetic dribbling
idiocy they posted about. Feel free to bitch and cry about the lack
of directed attention, afterwards I'll bring you back down to cock
level and you can suck my dick...for as many times as it takes you to
wake the fuck up and get it right.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm น x น
PerfectReign
took a rock and etched into the cave:
> Hey shit for brains.
Let's see...
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
Oh, you're using Windows.
Pot > Kettle (black)?
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.133.206.236
Oh, you're in Wisconson. Probably the cold has gotten to your head, which
explains why you're using Windows.
> I have Tourettes and it has nothing to do with
> dementia and you sound just as f*cked up as the troll you are trying to
> chastise. Now I know why they say birds of a feather eh?
Wait - you speak Canadian??
Cool
Why the fuck are you xposing to both alt.trucks.chevy and alt.2600?
JBDragon
trying to read messages in alt.trucks.chevy and yet this garbage is there?
WHY?? Keep it in alt.flame I guess if anything. PLEASE kill it or KILL all
the newsgroup this topic doesn't need to be in please.
"Anonymous Coward" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
news:inrvh3dk2prsf0is7...@4ax.com...
Dennis M. Hammes
> Hey shit for brains. I have Tourettes and it has nothing to do with dementia
> and you sound just as f*cked up as the troll you are trying to chastise. Now
> I know why they say birds of a feather eh?
>
Does your Tourette's only interfere with your typing, or does it
interfere with your squealing, too?
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Dennis M. Hammes
> on Wednesday 24 October 2007 05:45 pm, someone posing as I have Tourettes
> took a rock and etched into the cave:
>
>
>>Hey shit for brains.
>
>
> Let's see...
>
>
>
>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>
>
> Oh, you're using Windows.
>
> Pot > Kettle (black)?
>
>
>>NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.133.206.236
>
>
> Oh, you're in Wisconson. Probably the cold has gotten to your head, which
> explains why you're using Windows.
>
Actually, the cheese has gotten to WinDoze, which is why it can't use
his head.
>
>>I have Tourettes and it has nothing to do with
>>dementia and you sound just as f*cked up as the troll you are trying to
>>chastise. Now I know why they say birds of a feather eh?
>
>
> Wait - you speak Canadian??
Hey, it's right by Wisconsin.
>
> Cool
>
> Why the fuck are you xposing to both alt.trucks.chevy and alt.2600?
>
Because he chases /all/ Chevies.
And cheeseheads worship /anything/ with a number on it. It's their
second-Favreit pastime.
(The first is dyeing their faces green and dressing up as cheese
even when it's not Halloween. Some say Proxmire ordered it in an
attempt to increase the Milk Subsidy with the pity vote when NASA was
about to import green cheese from the Moon, but nobody really knows
why. These are people who drive hundreds of miles with their trunks
full of /smelt/, fer chrissake.)
Rob
<nob...@nowhere.com> writes
>Hey shit for brains. I have Tourettes and it has nothing to do with dementia
>and you sound just as f*cked up as the troll you are trying to chastise. Now
>I know why they say birds of a feather eh?
>
Rob
(the irony is probably wasted)
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I reach for 45-calibre pearls.
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>
> PLEASE KILL.
>
Gladly, but I ulluZ thot dragons /objected/ to being slain.
Lee Waun
"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:vtovh3d1gocptofq9...@4ax.com...
> wrote:
>
>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
>>
>>Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
>
> Uh oh, looks like somebody has their angry pants on. Tell us all,
> just how much time exactly do you spend wishing for the death of other
> people online? Would you say it consumes most of your daily thought
> process or is it just an idle itch that creeps up every now and again
> and forces you blurt out obscenities like some kind of a demented
> Tourettes' case?
>
I just killfile someone that wishes someone a painful death.
§ñühw¤£f
"JBDragon" <JBDr...@comcast.net> wasted precious bandwith with:
> Does this Thread really need to be posted in like 8 Newsgroups? I
> was trying to read messages in alt.trucks.chevy and yet this
> garbage is there? WHY?? Keep it in alt.flame I guess if anything.
> PLEASE kill it or KILL all
> the newsgroup this topic doesn't need to be in please.
>
What? Dragons is too stupid to set follow ups?
:)
John "C"
"Lee Waun" <lee...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:ph2Ui.27893$GO5.23903@edtnps90...
>
> "Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
> news:vtovh3d1gocptofq9...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:24:58 +0100, Anonymous Coward <no...@none.none>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with
my
> >>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
> >>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
> >>
> >>Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
> >
> > Uh oh, looks like somebody has their angry pants on. Tell us all,
> > just how much time exactly do you spend wishing for the death of other
> > people online? Would you say it consumes most of your daily thought
> > process or is it just an idle itch that creeps up every now and again
> > and forces you blurt out obscenities like some kind of a demented
> > Tourettes' case?
> >
>
> I just killfile someone that wishes someone a painful death.
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Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>Doe<COCK SLAP>
I'm sorry, but people who don't know how to properly reply to posts on
Usenet (without fucking up thread continuity) are simply NOT ALLOWED
to have a direct reply from me about whatever pathetic dribbling
idiocy they posted about. Feel free to bitch and cry about the lack
of directed attention, afterwards I'll bring you back down to cock
level and you can suck my dick...for as many times as it takes you to
wake the fuck up and get it right.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:37:41 -0700, JBDragon wrote:
>
>> Does this Thread really need to be posted in like 8 Newsgroups? I was
>> trying to read messages in alt.trucks.chevy and yet this garbage is there?
>> WHY?? Keep it in alt.flame I guess if anything. PLEASE kill it or KILL all
>> the newsgroup this topic doesn't need to be in please.
>
>The original poster (some anon sock puppet I've obviously ripped a new
>asshole on) just chose a bunch of news groups I post in. I guess in some
>way it was meant to cause me some trouble and or embarrassment. And it
>might have had a chance to do that maybe 10 years ago.
I doubt that, 10 to 1 says it's just some Webbie bred retard who got
bitch slapped in any number of the froups in the group line and he's
just runnin around lookin for cross post fodder, thinking it'll
disrupt said froups. But then, generally speaking, yer average "off
topic" conversation isn't really of much bother to most Netters.
While Webbie tards tend to classify every little sneeze that isn't
EXACTLY on the topic at hand as "spam", most Netters are quite laid
back in their communication and will often just set a thread to ignore
if they don't happen to be interested, rather than pissing themselves
and throwing a screaming fit about it (like a couple of top poasting
Google froup Webbie tards have already in this thread).
JBDragon
"Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message
news:H7ydnVHZmNSdGr3a...@onvoy.com...
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>L<COCK SLAP>
Top posters get to suck cock, but that's all they're allowed to do.
Timmay!
But not in the head. We want it to be a fatal injury.
--
Timmay!
"You've followed me thread to thread, ng to ng (including those you
claim you don't read) for the last year, spanktoy." Paranoid Burton
imagines stalkers in
<259v3uc2um3vbs74s...@4ax.com>
Timmay!
>Timmay! wrote:
>> Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>> Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>>> Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>>>>>>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>>>>>>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank's I will enjoy a painful death.
>>>>
>>>> Second thoughts, since you have such a stunted brain the size of your
>>>> pain receptors will be much reduced also. You may not feel a thing,
>>>> which is something you've been telling any female you manage to liquor
>>>> up and get into bed.
>>>>
>>>> Are you going to wait it out and cling onto life while wasting slowly
>>>> away or will you grab a gun and put yourself out of your misery?
>>>
>>>Probably just shoot myself.
>>
>> But not in the head. We want it to be a fatal injury.
>
Best hurry and start if you're going to pop your clogs soon.
Habib
"Meat Plow" <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:1bnffn....@news.alt.net...
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:37:41 -0700, JBDragon wrote:
>
>> trying to read messages in alt.trucks.chevy and yet this garbage is
>> there?
>> WHY?? Keep it in alt.flame I guess if anything. PLEASE kill it or KILL
>> all
>> the newsgroup this topic doesn't need to be in please.
>
> asshole on) just chose a bunch of news groups I post in. I guess in some
> way it was meant to cause me some trouble and or embarrassment. And it
> might have had a chance to do that maybe 10 years ago.
>
Damn Meat. I know we don't always get along but I am truly sad to hear about
your illness.
I have a family member that went through radiation and chemotherapy so I
know a little about what it's like. I hope you get this behind you and get
to feeling better.
--
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Dennis M. Hammes
> Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>
>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>
>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>>>>>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>>>>>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
>>>>
>>>>Thank's I will enjoy a painful death.
>>>
>>>Second thoughts, since you have such a stunted brain the size of your
>>>pain receptors will be much reduced also. You may not feel a thing,
>>>which is something you've been telling any female you manage to liquor
>>>up and get into bed.
>>>
>>>Are you going to wait it out and cling onto life while wasting slowly
>>>away or will you grab a gun and put yourself out of your misery?
>>
>>Probably just shoot myself.
>
>
> But not in the head. We want it to be a fatal injury.
>
Then then quit trying to shoot yourself in the ballZ.
(We want it to be a /real/ injury.)
Dennis M. Hammes
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:09:21 +0100, Timmay! wrote:
>
>
>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>
>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>>>>>>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>>>>>>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank's I will enjoy a painful death.
>>>>
>>>>Second thoughts, since you have such a stunted brain the size of your
>>>>pain receptors will be much reduced also. You may not feel a thing,
>>>>which is something you've been telling any female you manage to liquor
>>>>up and get into bed.
>>>>
>>>>Are you going to wait it out and cling onto life while wasting slowly
>>>>away or will you grab a gun and put yourself out of your misery?
>>>
>>>Probably just shoot myself.
>>
>>But
>
>
> Aw ain't that cute. Little Timmay! seeks yet another beating.
>
Too bad you can't kick him in the balls.
(We want it to be a /real/ beating.)
Dennis M. Hammes
> Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>
>>Timmay! wrote:
>>
>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>>>>>>>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>>>>>>>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank's I will enjoy a painful death.
>>>>>
>>>>>Second thoughts, since you have such a stunted brain the size of your
>>>>>pain receptors will be much reduced also. You may not feel a thing,
>>>>>which is something you've been telling any female you manage to liquor
>>>>>up and get into bed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you going to wait it out and cling onto life while wasting slowly
>>>>>away or will you grab a gun and put yourself out of your misery?
>>>>
>>>>Probably just shoot myself.
>>>
>>>But not in the head. We want it to be a fatal injury.
>>
>>Aw ain't that cute. Little Timmay! seeks yet another beating.
>
>
> Best hurry and start if you're going to pop your clogs soon.
>
"I /hate/ clogging," said Michael, flatly.
Dennis M. Hammes
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:06:59 +0100, Timmay! wrote:
>
>
>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Timmay! wrote:
>>>
>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've been prescribed Marinol. Best my doc can do in OH. Does help with my
>>>>>>>>>chronic pain as an alternative to opiate narcotics that I have been on
>>>>>>>>>forever. My doc said if he could scribe the real thing he would.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hope you enjoyed the chemotherapy? Hope you die a very painful death.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank's I will enjoy a painful death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Second thoughts, since you have such a stunted brain the size of your
>>>>>>pain receptors will be much reduced also. You may not feel a thing,
>>>>>>which is something you've been telling any female you manage to liquor
>>>>>>up and get into bed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you going to wait it out and cling onto life while wasting slowly
>>>>>>away or will you grab a gun and put yourself out of your misery?
>>>>>
>>>>>Probably just shoot myself.
>>>>
>>>>But
>>>
>>>Aw ain't that cute. Little Timmay! seeks yet another beating.
>>
>>Best
>
>
> And he thinks he FLAEMING!
>
> bwaaaaaaaaahahah
Why not? He /is/ a veteran of 47 kamikaze missions, you know.
Timmay!
>Timmay! wrote:
>> Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>Timmay! wrote:
>>>> Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>>>>Anonymous Coward wrote:
>>>>>> Are you going to wait it out and cling onto life while wasting slowly
>>>>>> away or will you grab a gun and put yourself out of your misery?
>>>>>
>>>>>Probably just shoot myself.
>>>>
>>>> But not in the head. We want it to be a fatal injury.
>>>
>>>Aw ain't that cute. Little Timmay! seeks yet another beating.
>>
>>Best hurry and start if you're going to pop your clogs soon.
>
I'm waiting for this 'beating' you promised to deliver, you fat fuck.
Timmay!
>>> The original poster (some anon sock puppet I've obviously ripped a new
>>> asshole on) just chose a bunch of news groups I post in. I guess in some
>>> way it was meant to cause me some trouble and or embarrassment. And it
>>> might have had a chance to do that maybe 10 years ago.
>>
>> Damn Meat. I know we don't always get along but I am truly sad to hear about
>> your illness.
>>
>> I have a family member that went through radiation and chemotherapy so I
>> know a little about what it's like. I hope you get this behind you and get
>> to feeling better.
>
Ah, so you've fed a pack of lies and conned your doctor into giving
you medication that gives the same effect as the recreational drugs
you used to take by the ton, but can't afford any more.
It appears there are two reasons for the fairy stories you've been
coming out with over the years. The first is that they are the result
of psychotropic drugs and the second is that you're a sad, lonely,
piece of rectal jetsam who doesn't have much of a life.
--
Timmay!
"6 toes down, 7 to go." Aratzio, AUK genetic freak counts his toes in
<aq0og3hrqc4a93pb7...@4ax.com>