On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:47:07 AM UTC+10,
jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
> They're not going to stop, either for four or eight years.
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> During that time you'll find that democrats are no better than anyone else. It seems they try to prove it every day.
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> People with this shit do not understand how this government works. First of all to actually affect an election, you have to go to the states. We have fifty elections every year, and then the delegates go to the electoral college. I do believe that in that case the federal government has the right and should require a paper trail, but my wishes and a buck will get you a cup of coffee.
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> But the claim is they leaked certain information which changed the results. Well first of all, how did they get it ? And then not to mention, how was it so bad that it changed the outcome of a Presidential election ? I never read any of that shit because my mind was made up a long time before the election. I bet most others' were as well. There was the ABC crowd, Anyone But Clinton. In fact, sixty million of them showed up at the polls, the REAL polls, not the opinion polls that had her winning by a landslide.
The opinion polls gave a her a roughly 70% chance of winning, and Trump a 30% chance. They weren't predicting any kind of landslide. Nate Silver, just before the election, did point out that while Clinton's chances of winning were better than Trump's, they weren't that much better, and that one of his sporting contest predictions with the same odds had just been falsified (as happens for once in roughly three of such predictions at those odds).
> As far as what Trump is doing, you take the good with the bad. Two California cities have voted to impeach Trump. Are they really that fucking stupid ? They have no idea how government works. Cities do not vote to impeach, congress does. He has to be impeached by the house and tried in the senate to be put out. Both of them are full of republicans. They are full of republicans because the US People have spoken, and I am pretty sure they said they are sick of the fucking democrats and liberals, and want boys to go to the boysroom.
Somebody with more sense than Jurb would have noted that what the American People might have been saying is that Trump produced a more seductive set of lies than Clinton, mainly because Trump thought that the American people were more gullible than Clinton did.
> Democrats CAUSED Trump to get elected, and now they are whining about it.
That's not the reaction I see. To me it looks more like a mature reaction to the situation that has put an incompetent egomaniac into the White House and let him appoint a cabinet of incompetent liars. Flynn was incompetent enough to lie to Congress about a matter where he could be shown to be lying, and the Democrats nailed him for it.
> They are not going to stop unless we shoot them. Good thing they like gun control, they are less likely to shoot back. Fukum, and the Prius they rode in on.
Shooting Democrats wouldn't be a constructive reaction. Shooting Republicans wouldn't do anything useful either - you'd improve the gene pool but incite the terminally confused - like Jurb - into acts of violence that would make the situation even worse.
All the Democrats have to do is watch Trump and his clown car carefully, and nail them whenever they do anything obviously stupid. So far Trump has tried to ban Muslim immigrants twice, and been slapped down by the courts both times, and he tried to junk Obamacare, but so incompetently that he didn't get enough Republican support to make it stick.
There are going to be lot more stupidities for Democrats to nail - neither Trump nor the Republicans seem to be capable of learning from experience - and eventually even people as ill-informed as Jurb are going to realise just how incompetent Trump and his team are.
As I've mentioned before Trump and his team remind me of the "List Pym Fortuyn" a Dutch political party formed around the charismatic but psychopathic politician Pim Fortuyn in 2002.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn_List
You had to be prepared to work with Pim Fortuyn to join the party, which meant that you had to be pretty desperate for political power. Donald Trump's cabinet has to be made up of people equally desperate for power, and equally unlikely to be given it by any sane party leader.
The coalition that include this crew of desperate people fell apart within a year. Happily, the Dutch constitution makes it relatively easy to ditch an incompetent cabinet, and the early election that followed slung most of the incompetents out of parliament. The US error-correction mechanisms can't react as promptly.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney