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The Flavored Coffee Guy

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Feb 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/6/00
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I've got the battery for the fuelless engine design down, how, and what
order to work the equations, and have tested a few proto circuits . Most
simulators screw up,
I've been out there testing, and theres approximately a 15 to 1 chance of a
simulator actually modelling it correctly. They all have troubles with low
values of Xc, and Xl, which are required for an excess of power in the
actual working circuit. Xl, is used for current limiting in the design, the
rest of the rules of thumb are pretty well there.

Here is a couple of useful equasions. Frequency for a chosen value of
reactance from a coil F=(1/2*pi*L)*XL{Desired value of XL in ohms}. To find
the value of capacitor with an equal value of reactance at the same
frequency C=1/2*pi*F*Xc{Desired value of Xc in ohms} These are the only two
equasion you will need for finding the parts you will need for any measured
value of XL on the primary of a transformer. You can check for the correct
frequency of resonance with the values you've found using the equations
above with this equation:
F in Hertz = 1/2*pi(TheSquareRootOf(L in Henerys * C in Farads))

Which will give you the value of F found in choosing XL to match the
primary to a given power level in amperes, and the value of frequency you
should have used to find C to select the capacitor to use in the schematics
provided at the following link.


Trust me, if you use that technique to select parts for a circuit
simulator, if it's gonna crash, that circuit will cause it to, or generate
an error message. If you build the circuit, it will produce alot more
energy than goes into it if you follow the rest of the rules of thumb, and
use the schematics provided at this link. Stick with ferrite cores when you
wind up the transformers because, I had to fix a problem with frequency
response, and to do that had to do with the geometery, and magnetic coupling
of the transformers themselves. I have built low power protos with a
primary resonance of 100 ohms for a 50 ohm output impedance, and they work
if you cascade them as shown. I had access to a simulator that was
absolutely accurate, and thought that it was screwing up but, when I built
the circuits, it wasn't generating hyper voltages, and current as just a
simulation but, as a actual breadboarded circuit. I couldn't step down the
voltages even though the circuit configuration is step up, and then step
down. If you try it in all but 1 out of 15 as an approximation of how many
crash, stall, or throw up error messages, and cannot resolve the situation,
you can try to doubt it but, not if you've built it. I have test the
transformer described, and it's around 98% effecient if would that way, and
it has a much higher frequency response at being that effecient. The core
can respond that well but, only if the wound exactly as shown at the site.

http://members.xoom.com/suckyfish/melissa/Resonance/

The Flavored Coffee Guy.


Mark Rehorst

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Not again!

MR

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James Meyer

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:10:00 -0500, "The Flavored Coffee Guy"
<elge...@email.msn.com> wrote:

> I've got the battery for the fuelless engine design down, how, and what
>order to work the equations, and have tested a few proto circuits . Most
>simulators screw up,
>I've been out there testing, and theres approximately a 15 to 1 chance of a
>simulator actually modelling it correctly. They all have troubles with low
>values of Xc, and Xl, which are required for an excess of power in the
>actual working circuit. Xl, is used for current limiting in the design, the
>rest of the rules of thumb are pretty well there.

Oops, looks like the flavored guy slipped out of his straight jacket
again and made his way into the day room at the hospital so he could get to the
computer.

Jim


Ron Harrison

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Current wisdom states that the sole reason for some people's existence
is to serve as a warning to others. Thanks to The Flavored Coffee Guy,
I don't drink foo-foo coffee.

Ron


In article <uf0MahRc$GA.333@cpmsnbbsa03>,


"The Flavored Coffee Guy" <elge...@fnworld.com> wrote:
> I've got the battery for the fuelless engine design down, how, and
what
> order to work the equations, and have tested a few proto circuits .
Most
> simulators screw up,
> I've been out there testing, and theres approximately a 15 to 1 chance
of a
> simulator actually modelling it correctly. They all have troubles
with low
> values of Xc, and Xl, which are required for an excess of power in the
> actual working circuit. Xl, is used for current limiting in the
design, the
> rest of the rules of thumb are pretty well there.
>


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Tom Bruhns

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:
> If you build the circuit, it will produce alot more
> energy than goes into it if you follow the rest of the rules of thumb, and
> use the schematics provided at this link.

Please see the bottom of the first column of Page 49.1 (the first page)
on http://www.tinaja.com/glib/bashpseu.pdf for reasons why you do NOT
ever want to discover a circuit, or anything else, that puts out more
energy than you put into it, net.

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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You know, Philips, and several other lighting manufactures actually use
that system in a similar fashion but, don't carry it out as far, and you
never see it's full potential. So, they make light bulbs that use 20 watts,
and produce 100watts worth of light but, on the assembly line it is
impractical to precision tune the circuits. In fact it's not even cost
effective to use a precision capacitor. So, the rating of the bulb is based
on the circuit's relative accuracy, and it's maximum demand. Therefore,
it's not unlikely to find one that uses 15 watts, and produces 100 watts
worth of light. It's just not cost effective to utilize that many precision
parts in a circuit. I didn't get the idea from them, told the whole world,
and didn't give in spite of the ridicule. So, why not tear into it, and see
what's making it tick? It's snapped together, and my circuit is much more
complex but, the system descibed is a public release allowing for a
competive market on specific designs, and complete schematics not theory.
I'm trying to save the environment, and for as far I'm conserned that's all
for one woman, and good luck to you and yours, even if she don't go out with
me. You know how are women are don't ya? They make you wanna die a
thousand deaths, sink or launch a thousand ships etc... anything good to
make it last forever. The whole point of that is avoiding the day God,
could object to something I did.

Don Klipstein

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The Flavored Coffee Guy (elge...@email.msn.com) wrote:
:
: You know, Philips, and several other lighting manufactures actually use

: that system in a similar fashion but, don't carry it out as far, and you
: never see it's full potential. So, they make light bulbs that use 20 watts,
: and produce 100watts worth of light but

Are you talking about compact fluorescent bulbs that use 20 watts of
electricity to produce 6 watts of visible optical power as opposed to
incandescents that need 100 watts to do that job? That's not magic of
resonant circuits.

- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Mark Rehorst

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> In fact it's not even cost
> effective to use a precision capacitor. So, the rating of the bulb is based
> on the circuit's relative accuracy, and it's maximum demand.

Are you going saying that since a capacitor costs $1 more, this >100% efficient
device isn't worth making?
"Cost effective" only has significance if you're talking about conserving
something. Since you are talking about something that magically produces more
energy than it consumes, the term "cost effective" is meaningless.
A device that produces more energy than it consumes would justify infinite
expenditure because eventually the cost would be repaid by the extra energy (and
revenue stream generated by the sale of that energy) produced. We can see
something like this concept when you look at the funding for fusion energy
research.

You know, the FLC guy's defenses of his circuits are a lot like his circuits-
they produce more energy than they use. Too bad it's all wasted!

John Larkin

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:00:38 -0500, "The Flavored Coffee Guy"
<elge...@email.msn.com> wrote:

>
> You know, Philips, and several other lighting manufactures actually use
>that system in a similar fashion but, don't carry it out as far, and you
>never see it's full potential. So, they make light bulbs that use 20
watts,

>and produce 100watts worth of light but, on the assembly line it is

>impractical to precision tune the circuits. In fact it's not even cost


>effective to use a precision capacitor. So, the rating of the bulb is
based

>on the circuit's relative accuracy, and it's maximum demand. Therefore,
>it's not unlikely to find one that uses 15 watts, and produces 100 watts
>worth of light. It's just not cost effective to utilize that many
precision
>parts in a circuit. I didn't get the idea from them, told the whole world,
>and didn't give in spite of the ridicule. So, why not tear into it, and
see
>what's making it tick? It's snapped together, and my circuit is much more
>complex but, the system descibed is a public release allowing for a
>competive market on specific designs, and complete schematics not theory.
>I'm trying to save the environment, and for as far I'm conserned that's all
>for one woman, and good luck to you and yours, even if she don't go out
with
>me. You know how are women are don't ya? They make you wanna die a
>thousand deaths, sink or launch a thousand ships etc... anything good to
>make it last forever. The whole point of that is avoiding the day God,
>could object to something I did.
>

FC Guy,

I think you would really save yourself a lot of grief if you were to direct
your energies toward less impossible goals- with both circuits and women.

There are no circuits with above 100% efficiency, but there ARE lots of good
women who just want a man to be kind and decent.

John


DonSolo

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Feb 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/8/00
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In article <almfOORATR6uv3...@4ax.com>,

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_SnipThis_technology.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:00:38 -0500, "The Flavored Coffee Guy"
> <elge...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > You know, Philips, and several other lighting manufactures
actually use
SNIP

> FC Guy,
>
> I think you would really save yourself a lot of grief if you were to
direct
> your energies toward less impossible goals- with both circuits and
women.
>
> There are no circuits with above 100% efficiency, but there ARE lots
of good
> women who just want a man to be kind and decent.
>
> John
>

John, I agree about what you said about women, but I think "FC Guy"
should continue his efforts to dis-prove the law of conservation of
energy. He might just stumble upon something usefull, and besides,
it keeps him away from building bombs. :)
Don.

John Fields

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> I'm trying to save the environment, and for as far I'm
> conserned that's all
> for one woman, and good luck to you and yours, even if she
> don't go out with
> me. You know how are women are don't ya? They make you wanna
> die a
> thousand deaths, sink or launch a thousand ships etc...
> anything good to
> make it last forever. The whole point of that is avoiding the
> day God,
> could object to something I did.

---


He _might_ object to your allowing yourself to get pussywhipped.


---

John Fields, Austin Instruments, Inc.
El Presidente Austin, Republic of Texas
"I speak for the company" http://www.austininstruments.com

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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That's a shocker.


"James Meyer" <notj...@earthlink.net> wrote in message >

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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Take one appart and try proving it.


"Don Klipstein" <d...@Misty.com> wrote in message
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> The Flavored Coffee Guy (elge...@email.msn.com) wrote:
> :
> : You know, Philips, and several other lighting manufactures actually
use

> : that system in a similar fashion but, don't carry it out as far, and you


> : never see it's full potential. So, they make light bulbs that use 20
watts,

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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I think the cat died.

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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I'll stick with dying a thousand deaths.

Gerry Schneider

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:

> Take one appart and try proving it.

I've taken many apart and have proven it. But then again, my 30 years of
experience as an Engineering Physicist are probably biasing my viewpoint.
Somehow, the pixie dust must have fallen out when I wasn't looking.

Gerry


David Emrich

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Gerry Schneider <ge...@mpatico.ca> wrote in message
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Tsk tsk. I bet you've let the smoke out of a couple too now haven't you...

David.

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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Wait until you find out what the Q factor can do.

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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I'll get credit for choosing a woman with a black belt in something.

John Fields

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:
>
> Wait until you find out what the Q factor can do.
>

---

Show a little respect, twit.

You stumbled onto Q about what, 6 months ago, and now you're
Professor Q?

Congratulations on your discovery, but do you think it's real?

---

John Fields Austin Instruments, Inc.

John Fields

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:
>
> I'll get credit for choosing a woman with a black belt in something.
>
---

More than likely you'd like to choose her because it would be her
black belt in your ass.

Gerry Schneider

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:

> Wait until you find out what the Q factor can do.

Of course! All those years designing resonant circuits and I never fully
comprehended the magic of the Q factor! Thanks for sharing; in gratitude let me
divulge a secret of my own. Lately, I've been busy playing with magnets, and
amazingly enough they can create force at a distance through thin air! They'll
even levitate in defiance of gravity! I just know that they contain the secret
to antigravity, perpetual motion and a host of other arcane knowledge. Shhh! -
don't tell anyone, it'll be our little secret, OK?

Gerry


John Fields

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Gerry Schneider wrote:

> Lately, I've been busy playing with magnets, and
> amazingly enough they can create force at a distance through
> thin air! They'll even levitate in defiance of gravity!
> I just know that they contain the secret to antigravity,
> perpetual motion and a host of other arcane knowledge.
> Shhh! - don't tell anyone, it'll be our little secret, OK?

---

Well, now that you've let the cat out of the bag I have an
experiment that I'm sure he'd like to try in order to determine
whether the force is moderated by air mollycools:

1. He should get two magnets and hold them in his hands so
that when they are brought together they repel each other.

2. He should step inside a vacuum chamber and, while it's being
pumped down, periodically and repeatedly bring his hands
together to determine whether the force is amplified
or attenuated by the vacuum.

This procedure should continue until he loses interest in the
experiment as evidenced by his failure to keep bringing his
hands together.

3. He should then be removed from the vacuum chamber and asked
to report his findings. Silence on his part should not be
construed as failure of the experiment to yield a satisfactory
conclusion;^)

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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Okay, when using a transformer, the inductive reactance of the primary
only changes as a result in the load on the secondary. If it's resistive,
and constant any amount of heat can be generated at resonance, and the only
issue is tuning the circuit.

From there you need thermo couples which are similar to heat to
electrical current devices, or thermal solar cells. So, I'll provide you
with the link just incase you don't believe those don't exist.
http://www.hi-z.com/


"Gerry Schneider" <ge...@mpatico.ca> wrote in message

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>
>
> The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:
>
> > Wait until you find out what the Q factor can do.
>
> Of course! All those years designing resonant circuits and I never fully
> comprehended the magic of the Q factor! Thanks for sharing; in gratitude
let me

> divulge a secret of my own. Lately, I've been busy playing with magnets,


and
> amazingly enough they can create force at a distance through thin air!
They'll
> even levitate in defiance of gravity! I just know that they contain the
secret
> to antigravity, perpetual motion and a host of other arcane knowledge.
Shhh! -
> don't tell anyone, it'll be our little secret, OK?
>

> Gerry
>

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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I graduated from electronics but wasn't granted my credits in 1984


"John Fields" <jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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> The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:
> >
> > Wait until you find out what the Q factor can do.
> >
>

> ---
>
> Show a little respect, twit.
>
> You stumbled onto Q about what, 6 months ago, and now you're
> Professor Q?
>
> Congratulations on your discovery, but do you think it's real?
>

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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No, you can tell at glance if we're getting along or not. If she hasn't
re-arranged my face, she isn't sick the one she's been seeing. If can't
recognize it, then she probably fixed it.

"John Fields" <jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote in message

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> The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:
> >

> > I'll get credit for choosing a woman with a black belt in something.
> >
> ---
>
> More than likely you'd like to choose her because it would be her
> black belt in your ass.
>

Gerry Schneider

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:

> Okay, when using a transformer, the inductive reactance of the primary
> only changes as a result in the load on the secondary. If it's resistive,
> and constant any amount of heat can be generated at resonance, and the only
> issue is tuning the circuit.
>
> From there you need thermo couples which are similar to heat to
> electrical current devices, or thermal solar cells. So, I'll provide you
> with the link just incase you don't believe those don't exist.
> http://www.hi-z.com/

What do you keep blathering on about? TEGs (thermoelectric generators) and
their reciprocal, TECs (thermoelectric coolers) have been around since the days
of Seebeck; I built a toy version using dissimilar metals ages ago when I was a
youngster, obviously not a fancy higher efficiency semiconductor version. So
what? You still need energy to power them, and your magic resonance isn't going
to do it. If you have something to show us, do it and let an impartial third
party check the numbers. Otherwise, shut up or we'll sick Steve W. on you -
then you'll be sorry!

Gerry


Mike Palmer

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Feb 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/13/00
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Flavored,

Let's see here: we have a tank circuit with no resistance, excess power in a
circuit that dissipates no power, linear elements with nonlinear reactances,
and self-induced amplitude modulation in a linear circuit.

To top it all off, a quick check of your web site turns up the page at

http://members.xoom.com/suckyfish/Sarah/index4.html

which is pointed to by a link named "Understanding UFO Design."

Let us know when you start on the Oscillation Overthruster.

-- Mike --

"The Flavored Coffee Guy" <elge...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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> I've got the battery for the fuelless engine design down, how, and
what
> order to work the equations, and have tested a few proto circuits . Most
> simulators screw up,
> I've been out there testing, and theres approximately a 15 to 1 chance of
a
> simulator actually modelling it correctly. They all have troubles with
low
> values of Xc, and Xl, which are required for an excess of power in the
> actual working circuit. Xl, is used for current limiting in the design,

the


> rest of the rules of thumb are pretty well there.

[continued random babblings of this nature gratuitously snipped]

> The Flavored Coffee Guy.


Robert Strand

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> Let us know when you start on the Oscillation Overthruster.

Sounds like something that black belt chick would be interested in. Possibly
reaching new heights with say a 1Hz oscillation frequency :).

Regards
Rob


Jonathan Bromley

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:

> a vacumm tube diode turned inside out as a system.

Can anyone elucidate? I fear not.

> Here at this link you can buy a working proto type that you can
> view at the bottom of the page completely built and tested for you.
> http://www.futurehorizons.net/grav.htm

A few snippets from that site, for your delectation:

= crystal powered telepathic enhancer
= Ectoplasmic Oscillator
= Our pride and joy. An armored exoskeletal battlesuit designed
for military application, complete with rocket launchers,
flamethrowers, autocannons, on-board radar, Artificial Intelligence,
IR vision and more.

These people are already in breach of EU law by offering for sale
objects which quite clearly do not meet EU safety and EMC standards.
I suspect the same may be true in the US.

How say we bring a legal action against 'em, pump up their paranoia
factor some more by getting them shut down?

> Some people listen.

Others, myself included, are deafened by the sound of their own jaws
hitting the floor.

Jonathan Bromley

The Flavored Coffee Guy

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Considering the toxic nature of solid rocket fuels, and the brain you
maintain, you'll probably destroy the environment before you time to live.
It would be stupid on all your part not to develop it, and or to prevent the
development of the electrostatic drives. You literally have legitamatized
dumping tons of toxins into the Earths atmosphere for a single sattlite. If
there is ever a reason to leave this Earth to survive, you'll miss the boat
if it ain't around.

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Mark Rehorst

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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:

> I think the cat died.

Now that was an intelligent rebuttal.

So why does saving $1 on a capacitor matter when your device produces
more energy than it consumes? How long will it take to recover the
extra
dollar spent on the capacitor by selling the excess energy your device
produces?

MR

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