OT: SARAH PALIN DUMBER THAN A ROCK
Paul
OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
the polls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
What's NOT hilarious, is the thought of this true
barbie doll getting a heart beat away from the
Presidency. At first I thought McCain was brilliant
choosing her, but now that we are seeing who she
really is, it's downright scary. Almost comical. A
political Farce really. Is this what the USA has been
reduced to?
In fact, even the more intelligent Republicans
can now see how bad of a choice she is as a running
mate.
My god, even her incredible beauty is NOT
going to save her come the debate this Thursday.
She is GORGEOUS physically. No argument
there. And she no doubt loves America. But let's
get serious here......there is no way she's gonna
be fit for the white house.
For the Love of Sweet Jesus, PLEASE
vote for Obama.
Ed Edelenbos
Tony Weber
You are merely pissing off the people who might otherwise agree with
you. If you feel that you absolutely have to post this on these three
groups, what is wrong with posting three times?
Don Bowey
122e105c-db0d-49b1...@25g2000prz.googlegroups.com, "Paul"
<Quill...@gmail.com> wrote:
How about you display at least some low-level intelligence, and tell us just
what was so funny about what she said.
Can't do it can you? You're just a smear-monger idiot.
Don Lewis
> vote for Obama.
John Larkin
wrote:
>
> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>the polls:
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
>
> It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
No contest: vote McCain.
John
Tony Weber
Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
Why do you hate America?
TW
Jenn
John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Man, no wonder we're so messed up. Do you like the result of the last 8
years with 2 non-lawyers in charge?
John Larkin
The DI, Less than half, and many of the lawyers had additional
occupations.
http://www.usconstitution.net/declarsigndata.html
The Constitution, a bit over half. Things were going downhill already.
>Why do you hate America?
What a silly question.
John
Tony Weber
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:03:57 -0700, Tony Weber
> <mycro...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quill...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>>>> the polls:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>>>> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>>>
>>> The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>>>
>>> No contest: vote McCain.
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>> Interesting. The Declaration of Independence, the United States
>> Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>>
>
> The DI, Less than half, and many of the lawyers had additional
> occupations.
>
> http://www.usconstitution.net/declarsigndata.html
>
> The Constitution, a bit over half. Things were going downhill already.
Actually, in both, you point out who signed it. Not who wrote it. So,
therefore not a response to the original point.
>
>
>> Why do you hate America?
>
> What a silly question.
>
> John
Not at all. Given how much the current Administration has tried to
emasculate the rights and ideals enumerated in both documents, and then
their supporters on the Right charged that those who objected did so
because they hated America.
So, tell me, why do you hate our Freedoms?
TW
B. Peg
anyt...@contractorcom.com
<mycro...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>Why do you hate America?
>
>TW
That's easy.
Because we can..:-)
Pete
Tony Weber
That is because we threw your POME ass out, ya Bastard.
TW
mi...@sushi.com
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> >the polls:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
> > It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
> >verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>
> The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>
> No contest: vote McCain.
>
> John
Yeah, it's not like the POTUS or VPOTUS have to deal with the law.
Dave Hazelwood
Bush doesn't. He ignores it ! <g>
DavidW
> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> the polls:
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
The debate this week will be fun.
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Norman Draper
>
> - Show quoted text -
Don,
I agree... It's not funny. It's both sad and pathetic, but it's not
funny. If you need to have what's sad and pathetic about her
response, get back to me. But if you really don't understand it now,
there may not be a way for me to put it into terms you could
understand.
You REALLY didn't see any humor in her response???
Norman (Not Even A Little Bit??) Draper
Norman Draper
>
> - Show quoted text -
Here's a longer version of the interview......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj6KviFGzng&feature=related
I have another adjective: scary.
Here main theme seems to be that the world should be as we want it to
be. Take note of the question that begins at 6:10.... It's right
after her statement about how we have to continue our nation building
effort. I think the cat is out of the bag as far as her lack of
knowledge of.... hell, practically everything.
Norman (It's Still Sad) Draper
Paul
>
> - Show quoted text -
Maybe Don is even dumber than Palin, as
intelligence is all relative, right?
True, the answers of many interviewees don't
look too good verbatim; spontaneous sentences can
be unfinished and awkwardly constructed; but consider
this answer to Couric's question on the relevance of
Alaska's proximity to Russia to her foreign policy experience:
"We have trade missions back and forth, we do.
It's very important when you consider even national security
issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into
the air space of the United States of America, where do they
go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska
that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being
kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they
are right there, they are right next to our state."
So just because you can see the edge of a country,
that gives you foreign policy experience?
Lord Help the USA.......
Paul
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh My. Very scary indeed.
She can barely put a coherent sentence together,
with dangling catch phrases like "freedom" and "democracy",
strung together.
Someone described her as a high school
student who didn't study enough, struggling to
bullshit her way through a test. Good description
in my book......WOW
Dave Hazelwood
wrote:
>Paul wrote:
>> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>> the polls:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
>The debate this week will be fun.
>
I've already got my loudhailer fired up and am ready to laugh at and
boo her all the way back to joo_know.
cold'n'fizzy
<mycro...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>anyt...@contractorcom.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:03:57 -0700, Tony Weber
>> <mycro...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you hate America?
>>>
>>> TW
>>
>> That's easy.
>>
>> Because we can..:-)
>>
>> Pete
>
>That is because we threw your POME ass out, ya Bastard.
The correct spellings are:
POMMY and ARSE.
you know nothing septic git.
>
>TW
Michael A. Terrell
So, you want to elect someone who doesn't know that a president signs
bills into law, they don't 'pass laws'. The only thing Obama could pass
is for an idiot. Wasn't he part of the group that pushed for the banks
to have to give loans to people with bad credit, and low income? The
same group that has cause the current meltdown?
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wrote:
>On Sep 28, 10:48?pm, Norman Draper <normandra...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Sep 29, 12:56?am, Norman Draper <normandra...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 28, 10:27?pm, Don Bowey <dbo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > On 9/28/08 7:12 PM, in article
>> > > 122e105c-db0d-49b1-9cda-c5035168d...@25g2000prz.googlegroups.com, "Paul"
>>
>> > > <Quiller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > ? ?OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>> > > > the polls:
>>
>> > > > ? ? ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>>
>> > > > ? ? It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>> > > > verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>>
>> > > > ? ? What's NOT hilarious, is the thought of this true
>> > > > barbie doll getting a heart beat away from the
>> > > > Presidency. ?At first I thought McCain was brilliant
>> > > > choosing her, but now that we are seeing who she
>> > > > really is, it's downright scary. ?Almost comical. ?A
>> > > > political Farce really. ?Is this what the USA has been
>> > > > reduced to?
>>
>> > > > ? ? In fact, even the more intelligent Republicans
>> > > > can now see how bad of a choice she is as a running
>> > > > mate.
>>
>> > > > ? ? ?My god, even her incredible beauty is NOT
>> > > > going to save her come the debate this Thursday.
>>
>> > > > ? ? ?She is GORGEOUS physically. ?No argument
>> > > > there. ?And she no doubt loves America. ?But let's
>> > > > get serious here......there is no way she's gonna
>> > > > be fit for the white house.
>>
>> > > > ? ? ? For the Love of Sweet Jesus, PLEASE
>> > > > vote for Obama.
>>
>> > > How about you display at least some low-level intelligence, and tell us just
>> > > what was so funny about what she said.
>>
>> > > Can't do it can you? You're just a smear-monger idiot.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Don,
>>
>> > I agree... It's not funny. ?It's both sad and pathetic, but it's not
>> > funny. ?If you need to have what's sad and pathetic about her
>> > response, get back to me. ?But if you really don't understand it now,
>> > there may not be a way for me to put it into terms you could
>> > understand.
>>
>> > You REALLY didn't see any humor in her response???
>>
>> > Norman (Not Even A Little Bit??) Draper- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Here's a longer version of the interview......
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj6KviFGzng&feature=related
>>
>> I have another adjective: scary.
>>
>> Here main theme seems to be that the world should be as we want it to
>> be. Take note of the question that begins at 6:10.... ?It's right
>> after her statement about how we have to continue our nation building
>> effort. ?I think the cat is out of the bag as far as her lack of
>> knowledge of.... hell, practically everything.
>>
>> Norman (It's Still Sad) Draper- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Oh My. Very scary indeed.
>
> She can barely put a coherent sentence together,
>with dangling catch phrases like "freedom" and "democracy",
>strung together.
>
> Someone described her as a high school
>student who didn't study enough, struggling to
>bullshit her way through a test. Good description
>in my book......WOW
Heh...when I was a kid we used to live on the orther side of the road
from a guy who was head of personnel (as it was then called) for ICI.
He turned down Margaret Thatcher for a job because he thought she was
OK but 'not too bright'.
Plus ca change...
Pete
Iceberg
news:oac1e4d2ma79q8jk1...@4ax.com...
these types are the sort of morons that worked for Decca and hollered that
guitar bands were a thing of the past when The Beatles walked in and asked
to be signed.
bash
That's a $1 for the swear jar. BTW what exactly is cross posting?
Dummy on Vermont Ave (not dubya, I'm the other dummy)
bash
PS I ain't a gonna vote for her, but how is she worse than Agnew,
Quaile (sp?) or Chaney?
bash
> John Larkin wrote:
> > wrote:
>
> >> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> >> the polls:
>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
> >> It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
> >> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>
> > The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>
> > No contest: vote McCain.
>
> > John
>
> Interesting. The Declaration of Independence, the United States
> Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>
> Why do you hate America?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think my last post died, so I apologize if this went through 1/2 way
Washington was a surveyor/military man/farmer, Sam Adams dropped out
of Law School, John Hancock was a merchant, Jefferson was admitted to
the bar but spent most his time and made his living as a farmer and
spent more time building Monticello than practising law. No sane
person can compare the lawyers of the 18th century to the lawyers of
the 21st century
B. Peg
>> Man, no wonder we're so messed up. Do you like the result of the last 8
>> years with 2 non-lawyers in charge?
>
> So, you want to elect someone who doesn't know that a president signs
> bills into law, they don't 'pass laws'. The only thing Obama could pass
> is for an idiot. Wasn't he part of the group that pushed for the banks
> to have to give loans to people with bad credit, and low income? The
> same group that has cause the current meltdown?
The fact is that this bail-out will never work in the long run. It will
cost far more than the $700 billion claimed as is with most government
plans, possibly three times that amount. The ones with bad credit will
still roll along with the Democrats blessings (aka Paulson and Barney
Frank). The mortgage people will love this plan as will the shills
surrounding Obama in Chicago. This is no more than a governmentally funded
Ponzi scheme.
People rant and rave about incumbents, but never vote them out. No one but
incumbents seem to recapture office. If an outsider comes along, they are
always "unqualified for the office." And so the problem continues.
There appears to be a third party called Corporacrats (aka Spendocrats) of
which Cheney and Bush seemed to have created by themselves.
I'm voting for whoever says no to this bail-out nonsense. So far neither
party seems to be able to say "No."
B~
George's ProSound Company
the world is 6000 years old and man walked with the dinosaurs
who thinks foreign policy is being able to see Russia?
do you want to put her in negotiations with Putin when she can't debate
Connie Chung?
This woman is scary,
no sorry Scary with a capital S
if she gets to the throne(not just vp) I think I will have to leave as I am
afraid to live in a land under her rule
George
Vari L. Cinicke
> Paul wrote:
>> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>> the polls:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
> The debate this week will be fun.
>
The set up seems to be to declare Sarah Palin the winner if she speaks
in English.
--
Cheers,
vc
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>On Sep 28, 10:18 pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>> STOP FUCKING CROSSPOSTING.
>>
>> You are merely pissing off the people who might otherwise agree with
>> you. If you feel that you absolutely have to post this on these three
>> groups, what is wrong with posting three times?
>
>That's a $1 for the swear jar. BTW what exactly is cross posting?
>Dummy on Vermont Ave (not dubya, I'm the other dummy)
>bash
Cross posting is to post one message to more than one group.
Read an FAQ on Usenet for the etiquette
>
>PS I ain't a gonna vote for her, but how is she worse than Agnew,
>Quaile (sp?) or Chaney?
Those folks, whatever their ability, have functioning brains - Palin
is trading on looks and evangelical fervor
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There's a big difference between turning down a rock and roll band for
a record label and hiring someone with the destructive instincts of
Thatcher for a major chemical company.
Pete
anyt...@contractorcom.com
Nah - she's just a politician, and as we have seen proved over the
last few weeks the brains are not in government.
The brains are the ones walking away with the bonuses paid for out of
our pension funds with government money propping up their (failed)
businesses.
Pete
Dave Hazelwood
Compared to her .... believe it or not .... they WERE all well
qualified !
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:54:04 -0700 (PDT), bash <tb...@jrma.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 28, 10:18 pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>>> STOP FUCKING CROSSPOSTING.
>>>
>>> You are merely pissing off the people who might otherwise agree with
>>> you. If you feel that you absolutely have to post this on these three
>>> groups, what is wrong with posting three times?
>> That's a $1 for the swear jar. BTW what exactly is cross posting?
>> Dummy on Vermont Ave (not dubya, I'm the other dummy)
>> bash
> Cross posting is to post one message to more than one group.
>
> Read an FAQ on Usenet for the etiquette
>
>> PS I ain't a gonna vote for her, but how is she worse than Agnew,
>> Quaile (sp?) or Chaney?
>
> Those folks, whatever their ability, have functioning brains - Palin
> is trading on looks and evangelical fervor
Do you remember Dan Quayle?
Steve
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hans
wrote:
> Jenn wrote:
>
> > In article <52h0e4llhibq4echvob4s1rmiu75o94...@4ax.com>,
> > John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> > > >the polls:
>
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
> > > > It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
> > > >verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>
> > > The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>
> > > No contest: vote McCain.
>
> > > John
>
> > Man, no wonder we're so messed up. Do you like the result of the last 8
> > years with 2 non-lawyers in charge?
>
> So, you want to elect someone who doesn't know that a president signs
> bills into law, they don't 'pass laws'. The only thing Obama could pass
> is for an idiot. Wasn't he part of the group that pushed for the banks
> to have to give loans to people with bad credit, and low income? The
> same group that has cause the current meltdown?
>
>
> aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white
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> If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
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>
> There are two kinds of people on this earth:
> The crazy, and the insane.
> The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.
Oh yeah, and the baseball team owner-turned leader of the free world
is a freaking genius in your book?? Even the CNN anchors call him, on-
air a high-functioning moron. This was spoken on air by one of the CNN
panel on Friday, prime time. The Prez called a highfunctioning moron
on prime time TV by a newsman. No lows in our public perceptions of
leadership.
Bush is a moron because he has failed in international relations
(e.g., unnecessary Iraq war, loss of all US relations with allies,
failed at the naive and unattainable goal of forcing traditional
cultures to adopt democracy), domestic affairs (e.g., presided over
the greatest budget deficit runup in history, perversion of the Bill
of Rights, promoted torture of POWs on US soil, rendition of
noncriminals, promotion of Christian-based religious organizations in
direct conflict with the US Constitution). He has no significant
successes unless the absence of further attacks by Al-Quaida is
considered a success. But Al-Quaida led him to spend >4000 US lives
and >$500B so far to accomplish this goal which could have been
accomplished by diligent and clever national and international policy.
Too hard. Push the war button.
Terrell, your claims have no credibility. But they have even less
credibility when you post them with no reason for your claims. McCain
was part of the same group that you accuse Obama of membership - the
congress.
hans
hans
Well said.
hans
Jenn
<96e742a4-2180-4456...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
Paul <Quill...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 9:56?pm, Norman Draper <normandra...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > On Sep 28, 10:27?pm, Don Bowey <dbo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 9/28/08 7:12 PM, in article
> > > 122e105c-db0d-49b1-9cda-c5035168d...@25g2000prz.googlegroups.com, "Paul"
> >
> > > <Quiller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > ? ?OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> > > > the polls:
> >
> > > > ? ? ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
> >
> > > > ? ? It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
> > > > verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
> >
> > > > ? ? What's NOT hilarious, is the thought of this true
> > > > barbie doll getting a heart beat away from the
> > > > Presidency. ?At first I thought McCain was brilliant
> > > > choosing her, but now that we are seeing who she
> > > > really is, it's downright scary. ?Almost comical. ?A
> > > > political Farce really. ?Is this what the USA has been
> > > > reduced to?
> >
> > > > ? ? In fact, even the more intelligent Republicans
> > > > can now see how bad of a choice she is as a running
> > > > mate.
> >
> > > > ? ? ?My god, even her incredible beauty is NOT
> > > > going to save her come the debate this Thursday.
> >
> > > > ? ? ?She is GORGEOUS physically. ?No argument
> > > > there. ?And she no doubt loves America. ?But let's
> > > > get serious here......there is no way she's gonna
> > > > be fit for the white house.
> >
> > > > ? ? ? For the Love of Sweet Jesus, PLEASE
> > > > vote for Obama.
> >
> > > How about you display at least some low-level intelligence, and tell us
> > > just
> > > what was so funny about what she said.
> >
> > > Can't do it can you? You're just a smear-monger idiot.- Hide quoted text
> > > -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > I agree... It's not funny. ?It's both sad and pathetic, but it's not
> > funny. ?If you need to have what's sad and pathetic about her
> > response, get back to me. ?But if you really don't understand it now,
> > there may not be a way for me to put it into terms you could
> > understand.
> >
> > You REALLY didn't see any humor in her response???
> >
> > Norman (Not Even A Little Bit??) Draper- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Maybe Don is even dumber than Palin, as
> intelligence is all relative, right?
>
> True, the answers of many interviewees don't
> look too good verbatim; spontaneous sentences can
> be unfinished and awkwardly constructed; but consider
> this answer to Couric's question on the relevance of
> Alaska's proximity to Russia to her foreign policy experience:
>
>
> "We have trade missions back and forth, we do.
> It's very important when you consider even national security
> issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into
> the air space of the United States of America, where do they
> go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska
> that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being
> kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they
> are right there, they are right next to our state."
>
>
> So just because you can see the edge of a country,
> that gives you foreign policy experience?
>
> Lord Help the USA.......
I can see the moon from my yard...
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<bornfe...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
> Do you remember Dan Quayle?
>
>Steve
Sure "the invisible man." No charisma. He has a functioning brain.
Do you think Bush has altered the way people regard the job
qualifications for president? Dumb may be OK now.
John Larkin
Yes. The great majority of lawyers nowadays got a liberal-arts
undergrad degree, went to law school, clerked or worked in a firm,
then began practising law. They are trained in the less-then-zero-sum
adversary power brokering game, and nothing else. Most have never done
a lick of real work in their lives. Virtually all are leftists, in the
sense that they think that all social and economic problems need legal
solutions.
The Founders were men of principle. Modern lawyers (and I've dated a
few) are people of power.
Government is inherently corrupt, so to have less corruption we need
less government.
John
Shy Picker
> John Larkin wrote:
> > <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> >> John Larkin wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> � � OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> >>>> the polls:
>
> >>>> � � � �http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
> >>>> � � �It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
> >>>> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>
> >>> The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>
> >>> No contest: vote McCain.
>
> >>> John
>
> >> Interesting. �The Declaration of Independence, the United States
> >> Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>
> > occupations.
>
> >http://www.usconstitution.net/declarsigndata.html
>
> > The Constitution, a bit over half. Things were going downhill already.
>
> therefore not a response to the original point.
>
>
>
> >> Why do you hate America?
>
>
> > John
>
> Not at all. �Given how much the current Administration has tried to
> emasculate the rights and ideals enumerated in both documents, and then
> their supporters on the Right charged that those who objected did so
> because they hated America.
>
> So, tell me, why do you hate our Freedoms?
>
> TW- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He doesn't hate his freedoms, he just hates yours.
David
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:57:04 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> <bornfe...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you remember Dan Quayle?
>>
>> Steve
>
> Sure "the invisible man." No charisma. He has a functioning brain.
>
> Do you think Bush has altered the way people regard the job
> qualifications for president? Dumb may be OK now.
We've had our share of dummies before. Still, it's starting to seem
aspirational.
John Larkin
>In article <52h0e4llhibq4echv...@4ax.com>,
> John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quill...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>> >the polls:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>> >
>> >
>> > It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>> >verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>>
>>
>> The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>>
>> No contest: vote McCain.
>>
>>
>> John
>
>Man, no wonder we're so messed up. Do you like the result of the last 8
>years with 2 non-lawyers in charge?
I don't understand "so messed up." If you look around at real life,
and ignore shrieking headlines, things aren't bad. Some people are
stressed by economic forces, especially low-education working folks,
but that's the result of global economic events... no President is
going to, or has the power to, wave some wand and make everybody
happy.
And I don't understand "in charge." Congress passes the laws and the
budgets, and the courts have final say on what's allowed.
If you refer to the current economic blowup, that fuse was lit in the
1990's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63siCHvuGFg
John
John Larkin
May as well do it. The $700b is less than 2% of the government's
unfunded, off-the-official-books liability for boomer social security
and medicaire expenses... down in the grassy noise floor. It would no
doubt cost the feds a *lot* more to let a lot of businesses and
pensions go bust.
John
mpm
> The set up seems to be to declare Sarah Palin the winner if she speaks
> in English.
She, (Palin) should just bring a piece of whale blubber with her to
the debates and start munching on it whenever she can't come up with a
meanigful response to the questions.
I'm certain that would net her far more votes overall.
-mpm
mpm
> >On Sep 28, 10:18�pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
> >PS I ain't a gonna vote for her, but how is she worse than Agnew,
> >Quaile (sp?) or Chaney?
Hey Tony, can you spell "potato"? :)
-mpm
Jenn
John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
We're messed up in regard to the entire political process when we
promote not voting for someone just because they are a lawyer.
Michael A. Terrell
hans wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, and the baseball team owner-turned leader of the free world
> is a freaking genius in your book?? Even the CNN anchors call him, on-
> air a high-functioning moron. This was spoken on air by one of the CNN
> panel on Friday, prime time. The Prez called a highfunctioning moron
> on prime time TV by a newsman. No lows in our public perceptions of
> leadership.
Boy, are you paranoid. Where did I mention Bush? I didn't vote for
him. As far as the bailout, do you want five to fifteen years of severe
finical depression? No jobs, little food, lots of homeless and angry
people desperate enough to kill you for the meal you are about to eat?
> Bush is a moron because he has failed in international relations
> (e.g., unnecessary Iraq war, loss of all US relations with allies,
> failed at the naive and unattainable goal of forcing traditional
> cultures to adopt democracy), domestic affairs (e.g., presided over
> the greatest budget deficit runup in history, perversion of the Bill
> of Rights, promoted torture of POWs on US soil, rendition of
> noncriminals, promotion of Christian-based religious organizations in
> direct conflict with the US Constitution). He has no significant
> successes unless the absence of further attacks by Al-Quaida is
> considered a success. But Al-Quaida led him to spend >4000 US lives
> and >$500B so far to accomplish this goal which could have been
> accomplished by diligent and clever national and international policy.
> Too hard. Push the war button.
>
> Terrell, your claims have no credibility. But they have even less
> credibility when you post them with no reason for your claims. McCain
> was part of the same group that you accuse Obama of membership - the
> congress.
You are a loser, and allays be, because you can't see past your next
meal.
--
Vladimir Vassilevsky
John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:16:45 -0700, "B. Peg"
> <bent_...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>I'm voting for whoever says no to this bail-out nonsense. So far neither
>>party seems to be able to say "No."
>>
>
> May as well do it. The $700b is less than 2% of the government's
> unfunded, off-the-official-books liability for boomer social security
> and medicaire expenses... down in the grassy noise floor. It would no
> doubt cost the feds a *lot* more to let a lot of businesses and
> pensions go bust.
Wait a minute. If $7e8 is the mosquito bite as you said, then why do you
expect it to have such a prominent impact on the businesses and pensions?
The bail out deal only converts the bad problem right now to the worst
problem little later.
VLV
John Larkin
<antispa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:16:45 -0700, "B. Peg"
>> <bent_...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm voting for whoever says no to this bail-out nonsense. So far neither
>>>party seems to be able to say "No."
>>>
>>
>> May as well do it. The $700b is less than 2% of the government's
>> unfunded, off-the-official-books liability for boomer social security
>> and medicaire expenses... down in the grassy noise floor. It would no
>> doubt cost the feds a *lot* more to let a lot of businesses and
>> pensions go bust.
>
>Wait a minute. If $7e8 is the mosquito bite as you said, then why do you
>expect it to have such a prominent impact on the businesses and pensions?
Because it adds a little dynamic stability that may prevent a
death-spiral feedback loop that would hurt businesses, destroy jobs,
and devalue investments for a long time to come. There should be
followups, of course, to add long-term stability, like undoing some of
the 1990's legal changes that caused this mess.
>
>The bail out deal only converts the bad problem right now to the worst
>problem little later.
Not if some sensible regulation is put back in place. Speculative
markets are inherently unstable, and reasonable government regulation
- tax policies, for example - can add stability.
Ironically, one of the core causes of the current mess, aside from
idiots like Barney Frank, was too much free money looking for
investment opportunities. Granted, some of that money was real, and
some was imaginary.
John
John Larkin
I have a right to an opinion, and I'm allocated exactly one vote.
I've known enough lawyers, as friends and girlfriends, to have some
insight to their world, and I prefer people who do real things to
people who live to broker power for fun and profit.
I actually helped to get some bills passed on the floor of the Alaskan
state assembly, in Juneau, and it was not a pretty process.
John
hans
wrote:
>
> aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white
> listed, or I will not see your messages.
>
> If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
> your account:http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm
>
> There are two kinds of people on this earth:
> The crazy, and the insane.
> The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.
MY PARANOIA has been well documented. Please don;t talk about me this
way!!
"No jobs, little food, homeless......" Now you know why I am
paranoid!!
I have always been a loser. I was born that way. I am very comfortable
with my loserness.
;)
hans
bash
bash
On Sep 29, 8:06 am, bash <tb...@jrma.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 11:03 pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > John Larkin wrote:
> > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> > >> the polls:
>
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
> > >> It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
> > >> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>
> > > The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>
> > > No contest: vote McCain.
>
> > > John
>
> > Interesting. The Declaration of Independence, the United States
> > Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>
> > Why do you hate America?
>
> > TW- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I think my last post died, so I apologize if this went through 1/2 way
>
> Washington was a surveyor/military man/farmer, Sam Adams dropped out
> of Law School, John Hancock was a merchant, Jefferson was admitted to
> the bar but spent most his time and made his living as a farmer and
> spent more time building Monticello than practising law. No sane
> person can compare the lawyers of the 18th century to the lawyers of
> the 21st century- Hide quoted text -
hank alrich
> Because it adds a little dynamic stability that may prevent a
> death-spiral feedback loop that would hurt businesses, destroy jobs,
> and devalue investments for a long time to come. There should be
> followups, of course, to add long-term stability, like undoing some of
> the 1990's legal changes that caused this mess.
There are conflicting opinions about the potential "stability"; in fact,
some see it potentially significantly destabilizing.
http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/files/documents/Final-Bailout-White-Paper
.pdf
--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam
Richard Henry
> On Sep 28, 10:18 pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > STOP FUCKING CROSSPOSTING.
>
> > You are merely pissing off the people who might otherwise agree with
> > you. If you feel that you absolutely have to post this on these three
> > groups, what is wrong with posting three times?
>
> That's a $1 for the swear jar. BTW what exactly is cross posting?
> Dummy on Vermont Ave (not dubya, I'm the other dummy)
> bash
>
> Quaile (sp?) or Chaney?
Didn't learn anything from those?
Shy Picker
> In article
> <96e742a4-2180-4456-a2f3-42eeb5aba...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
Pranksters drive by with the window down and ... ?
Jenn
John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Of course you do. I've not said otherwise.
>
> I've known enough lawyers, as friends and girlfriends, to have some
> insight to their world, and I prefer people who do real things to
> people who live to broker power for fun and profit.
You need to get to know a better quality of lawyer. ;-)
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
>
> How about you display at least some low-level intelligence, and tell us just
> what was so funny about what she said.
"Our next-door neighbors are foreign countries!<gasp>"
> Can't do it can you? You're just a smear-monger idiot.
Please see above.
Have you even seen the clip? It gets even funnier!
Cheers!
Rich
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
> John Larkin wrote:
>>
>> The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>>
>> No contest: vote McCain.
>>
> Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>
> Why do you hate America?
>
anything, as long as he can continue to sell boxes that cost him
$10,000.00 to build, for $1,000,000.00 a pop.
Cheers!
Rich
Iceberg
news:935246f2-86d9-419b...@q9g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
the Americans do seem to have an awful lot of trouble trying to find
presidential and VP candidates with basic English skills.
Jenn
"Iceberg" <big_bad...@moc.oohay> wrote:
Well, three out of four isn't bad. Actually, Palin's English skills
don't seem to be below par, she's simply unprepared to answer questions
regarding her proposed position.
jdeluise
I would agree with that assessment. I don't think she is stupid, but she is
clearly out of her element as a VP candidate.
Iceberg
news:m3k1e4l5iq1vmd3a0...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:25:08 GMT, "Iceberg"
> <big_bad...@moc.oohay> wrote:
>
>><anyt...@contractorcom.com> wrote in message
>>news:oac1e4d2ma79q8jk1...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:51:36 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quill...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sep 28, 10:48?pm, Norman Draper <normandra...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 29, 12:56?am, Norman Draper <normandra...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Sep 28, 10:27?pm, Don Bowey <dbo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > > On 9/28/08 7:12 PM, in article
>>>>> > > 122e105c-db0d-49b1-9cda-c5035168d...@25g2000prz.googlegroups.com,
>>>>> > > "Paul"
>>>>>
>>>>> > > <Quiller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > the polls:
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > ? ? ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > ? ? It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>>>>> > > > verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > barbie doll getting a heart beat away from the
>>>>> > > > Presidency. ?At first I thought McCain was brilliant
>>>>> > > > choosing her, but now that we are seeing who she
>>>>> > > > really is, it's downright scary. ?Almost comical. ?A
>>>>> > > > political Farce really. ?Is this what the USA has been
>>>>> > > > reduced to?
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > ? ? In fact, even the more intelligent Republicans
>>>>> > > > can now see how bad of a choice she is as a running
>>>>> > > > mate.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > ? ? ?My god, even her incredible beauty is NOT
>>>>> > > > going to save her come the debate this Thursday.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > ? ? ?She is GORGEOUS physically. ?No argument
>>>>> > > > there. ?And she no doubt loves America. ?But let's
>>>>> > > > get serious here......there is no way she's gonna
>>>>> > > > be fit for the white house.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > ? ? ? For the Love of Sweet Jesus, PLEASE
>>>>> > > > vote for Obama.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > tell
>>>>> > > us just
>>>>> > > what was so funny about what she said.
>>>>>
>>>>> > > quoted
>>>>> > > text -
>>>>>
>>>>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> > Don,
>>>>>
>>>>> > I agree... It's not funny. ?It's both sad and pathetic, but it's not
>>>>> > funny. ?If you need to have what's sad and pathetic about her
>>>>> > response, get back to me. ?But if you really don't understand it
>>>>> > now,
>>>>> > there may not be a way for me to put it into terms you could
>>>>> > understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> > You REALLY didn't see any humor in her response???
>>>>>
>>>>> > Norman (Not Even A Little Bit??) Draper- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj6KviFGzng&feature=related
>>>>>
>>>>> I have another adjective: scary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here main theme seems to be that the world should be as we want it to
>>>>> be. Take note of the question that begins at 6:10.... ?It's right
>>>>> after her statement about how we have to continue our nation building
>>>>> effort. ?I think the cat is out of the bag as far as her lack of
>>>>> knowledge of.... hell, practically everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman (It's Still Sad) Draper- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She can barely put a coherent sentence together,
>>>>with dangling catch phrases like "freedom" and "democracy",
>>>>strung together.
>>>>
>>>> Someone described her as a high school
>>>>student who didn't study enough, struggling to
>>>>bullshit her way through a test. Good description
>>>>in my book......WOW
>>>
>>> Heh...when I was a kid we used to live on the orther side of the road
>>> from a guy who was head of personnel (as it was then called) for ICI.
>>>
>>> He turned down Margaret Thatcher for a job because he thought she was
>>> OK but 'not too bright'.
>>>
>>> Plus ca change...
>>
>>these types are the sort of morons that worked for Decca and hollered that
>>guitar bands were a thing of the past when The Beatles walked in and asked
>>to be signed.
>>
>
> There's a big difference between turning down a rock and roll band for
> a record label and hiring someone with the destructive instincts of
> Thatcher for a major chemical company.
destructive? she got rid of the most destructive, backwards thinking and
power hungry dictatorial morons in the country ie. the union bosses. We
actually *want* our kids working down coal pits in the 90's, let's wreck
Wapping and bring back the Caxton printing press rather than these modern
digital ones yay! etc.
Ed Maier
> the Americans do seem to have an awful lot of trouble trying to find
> presidential and VP candidates with basic English skills.
>
>
We certainly does.
Ed Maier
Tony Weber
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:06:46 -0700 (PDT), bash <tb...@jrma.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 28, 11:03 pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>>>>> the polls:
>>>>> It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>>>>> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>>>> No contest: vote McCain.
>>> Interesting. The Declaration of Independence, the United States
>>> Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>>>
>>> Why do you hate America?
>>>
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Washington was a surveyor/military man/farmer, Sam Adams dropped out
>> of Law School, John Hancock was a merchant, Jefferson was admitted to
>> the bar but spent most his time and made his living as a farmer and
>> spent more time building Monticello than practising law. No sane
>> person can compare the lawyers of the 18th century to the lawyers of
>> the 21st century
>
> Modern lawyers (and I've dated a
> few) are people of power.
Right. And I've dated a software engineer from Adobe, so I know
everything about the field of programming.
Sheesh.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> see who posted what.
>
> TW
If I'm falling asleep at the computer, I can suffer from paralax error
and misattribute.
Steve (does that grow hair on my palms?)
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
Shy Picker
> "hans" <anybutb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bulllshit. Bush is so adept at the English language that he can create
new words anytime he can't think of the correct word. "The Decider"
can probably even do it in Spanish too. But I can't verify that.
VP Cheney probably knows more four letter words than any other VP in
History.
Jenn
StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt <Zarat...@thusspoke.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:12:08 -0700, Jenn <jennco...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Man, no wonder we're so messed up. Do you like the result of the last 8
> >years with 2 non-lawyers in charge?
>
>
> It appears that you ain't all that bright either, twit.
Gee Clem, thanks for your opinion.
hank alrich
Did you just love her to bits, or did y'all get pixilated?
--
ha
shut up and play your guitar
hans
<Zarathus...@thusspoke.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT), Shy Picker <ShyPic...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ...were all written by Lawyers.
>
> >> ? Bullshit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >States Constitution and the Bill of Rights Bullshit?
>
> Funny, I do not see what you think you saw. I see what is written here,
> and that is what I replied to.
>
> That "show/hide" crap is retarded. Get a real news reader and a real
> news server.
>
> Goddamned Google retards should all be filtered on the front side.
bullshit.
George's ProSound Company
On Sep 29, 3:54 pm, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathus...@thusspoke.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT), Shy Picker <ShyPic...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ...were all written by Lawyers.
>
> >> ? Bullshit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Why would you call the The Declaration of Independence, the United
> >States Constitution and the Bill of Rights Bullshit?
and I quote:
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to
meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial
USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period
immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that
liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces
with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose
renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous
provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the
President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet
Miers to the Supreme Court.
"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the
Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."
"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that
the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just
a goddamned piece of paper!"
from
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_article_7779.shtml
George
Iceberg
news:bhs1e4tm77892mc7g...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:06:46 -0700 (PDT), bash <tb...@jrma.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 28, 11:03 pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>>> >> the polls:
>>>
>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>>>
>>> >> It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>>> >> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>>>
>>> > The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>>>
>>> > No contest: vote McCain.
>>>
>>> > John
>>>
>>> Interesting. The Declaration of Independence, the United States
>>> Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>>>
>>> Why do you hate America?
>>>
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>>Washington was a surveyor/military man/farmer, Sam Adams dropped out
>>of Law School, John Hancock was a merchant, Jefferson was admitted to
>>the bar but spent most his time and made his living as a farmer and
>>spent more time building Monticello than practising law. No sane
>>person can compare the lawyers of the 18th century to the lawyers of
>>the 21st century
>
> undergrad degree, went to law school, clerked or worked in a firm,
> then began practising law. They are trained in the less-then-zero-sum
> adversary power brokering game, and nothing else. Most have never done
> a lick of real work in their lives. Virtually all are leftists, in the
> sense that they think that all social and economic problems need legal
> solutions.
>
> The Founders were men of principle. Modern lawyers (and I've dated a
> few) are people of power.
>
> less government.
well said, but the gits have got it sown up, it's the same here
1) they get in
2) make more and more laws
3) meaning more and more lawyers
4) meaning more and more court cases meaning more and more lawyers
5) in the end really just more money for them (which was their original aim)
Tony Weber
Shy Picker
<Zarathus...@thusspoke.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:03:57 -0700, Tony Weber
>
>
>
>
>
> <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
> >John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> � � OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
> >>> the polls:
>
> >>> � � � �http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>
> >>> � � �It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
> >>> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>
> >> The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>
> >> No contest: vote McCain.
>
> >> John
>
> >Interesting. �The Declaration of Independence, the United States
> >Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Why would you call the The Declaration of Independence, the United
States Constitution and the Bill of Rights Bullshit?
Shy Picker
<Zarathus...@thusspoke.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT), Shy Picker <ShyPic...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ...were all written by Lawyers.
>
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Why would you call the The Declaration of Independence, the United
> >States Constitution and the Bill of Rights Bullshit?
>
> and that is what I replied to.
>
> �That "show/hide" crap is retarded. �Get a real news reader and a real
> news server.
>
> � Goddamned Google retards should all be filtered on the front side.
Bullshit, If you had a good newsreader and knew how to use it you
would be able to filter google groups anyway. But you would rather
bitch and call people retarded like you are a 5th grader or something.
John Larkin
<ShyP...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Sep 28, 11:38?pm, Tony Weber <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>> John Larkin wrote:
>> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:03:57 -0700, Tony Weber
>> > <mycroft...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> John Larkin wrote:
>> >>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Paul <Quiller...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>>
>> >>>> ? ? OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>> >>>> the polls:
>>
>> >>>> ? ? ? ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>>
>> >>>> ? ? ?It's SO bad, that all Tina Fey had to do was copy
>> >>>> verbatim what Palin said, and it was hilarious.
>>
>> >>> The choice in this election is clear: two lawyers or two non-lawyers.
>>
>> >>> No contest: vote McCain.
>>
>> >>> John
>>
>> >> Interesting. ?The Declaration of Independence, the United States
>> >> Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all written by Lawyers.
>>
>> > The DI, Less than half, and many of the lawyers had additional
>> > occupations.
>>
>> >http://www.usconstitution.net/declarsigndata.html
>>
>> > The Constitution, a bit over half. Things were going downhill already.
>>
>> Actually, in both, you point out who signed it. ?Not who wrote it. ?So,
>> therefore not a response to the original point.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Why do you hate America?
>>
>> > What a silly question.
>>
>> > John
>>
>> Not at all. ?Given how much the current Administration has tried to
>> emasculate the rights and ideals enumerated in both documents, and then
>> their supporters on the Right charged that those who objected did so
>> because they hated America.
>>
>> So, tell me, why do you hate our Freedoms?
>>
>> TW- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
>He doesn't hate his freedoms, he just hates yours.
>
>David
I don't hate freedoms, or any reasonable people. I am amused by
neurotic shrieking.
John
John Larkin
Thanks for the kind thoughts, but our average is more like 4:1, not
100:1.
But I do care about other stuff. Money's not important.
John
John Larkin
wrote:
>John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>> Because it adds a little dynamic stability that may prevent a
>> death-spiral feedback loop that would hurt businesses, destroy jobs,
>> and devalue investments for a long time to come. There should be
>> followups, of course, to add long-term stability, like undoing some of
>> the 1990's legal changes that caused this mess.
>
>There are conflicting opinions about the potential "stability"; in fact,
>some see it potentially significantly destabilizing.
>
>http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/files/documents/Final-Bailout-White-Paper
>.pdf
As they say, to get 10 different opinions, put five economists in a
room. It's appalling that nobody seems to understand the dynamics of
the financial systems.
One nearly sure-fire way to damp an unstable system is to slow it
down, which tax policies can surely do. If a market panic took 10
months to slew, everybody's crisis-attention-span would be used up
before really bad things happened.
John
anyt...@contractorcom.com
<big_bad...@moc.oohay> wrote:
Iceberg,
You are clearly not an English person. If you were, you would know
better than to open your first sentence in the lower case.
I'm not sure about Wapping - that's a fairly handsome piece of
architecture. Rupert Murdoch, OTOH, I can do without.
Just like Thatcher really...she was absolutely posionous.
Don't lecture me about coal mining. I come from a family of coal
miners. None of them wanted to do it, but the miners powered the
country for two centuries. I reckon that gives them the right to have
a say in things. You watch you own great grandfather die of emphysemia
having spent the last ten years of his working life working a seam
only 23 inches deep and then tell me that he hasn't got something to
say.
I know I come across as fatuous and offhand a great deal of the time,
but I know what it's like to get my hands dirty.
Some of us are tough, some of us are wankers...
Pete
John Popelish
> As they say, to get 10 different opinions, put five economists in a
> room. It's appalling that nobody seems to understand the dynamics of
> the financial systems.
Not a control engineer in the bunch. No familiarity with
positive and negative feedback, feed forward and stability
concepts, except on the most superficial, hand waving levels.
--
Regards,
John Popelish
anyt...@contractorcom.com
<Sup...@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalaxy.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:18:54 -0700, Tony Weber
><mycro...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>>STOP FUCKING CROSSPOSTING.
>>
>>You are merely pissing off the people who might otherwise agree with
>>you. If you feel that you absolutely have to post this on these three
>>groups, what is wrong with posting three times?
>
>
> FUCK YOU TELLING FOLKS WHAT TO DO, BOY!
Um, or what? Will you send your no doubt horribly obese dad round to
beat us up?
Pete
Dave Hazelwood
<ShyP...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Sep 29, 2:53?pm, "Iceberg" <big_bad_iceb...@moc.oohay> wrote:
>> "hans" <anybutb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:935246f2-86d9-419b...@q9g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 29, 7:51 am, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > DavidW wrote:
>> > > Paul wrote:
>> > >> OH MY GOD, no wonder McCain is dropping in
>> > >> the polls:
>>
>> > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8moOxzlGQ
>>
>> > > The debate this week will be fun.
>>
>> > The set up seems to be to declare Sarah Palin the winner if she speaks
>> > in English.
>>
>> > --
>> > Cheers,
>>
>> > vc
>>
>> >Well ?said.
>>
>> the Americans do seem to have an awful lot of trouble trying to find
>> presidential and VP candidates with basic English skills.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Bulllshit. Bush is so adept at the English language that he can create
>new words anytime he can't think of the correct word. "The Decider"
>can probably even do it in Spanish too. But I can't verify that.
>
>VP Cheney probably knows more four letter words than any other VP in
>History.
He's also #1 at shooting people in the face and calling them
"collateral" damage while duck hunting.
Les Cargill
>
>> As they say, to get 10 different opinions, put five economists in a
>> room. It's appalling that nobody seems to understand the dynamics of
>> the financial systems.
All understanding has limits. Especially understanding that
depends on human behavior.
> (snip)
>
> Not a control engineer in the bunch. No familiarity with positive and
> negative feedback, feed forward and stability concepts, except on the
> most superficial, hand waving levels.
>
I find it difficult to believe nobody thought of it 'til now. Suppose
you have six billion elements under "control", with no defined
feedback or feedforward bandwidth... now suppose the elements
are like... people.
Oy.
--
Les Cargill
Mike Brown
Iceberg
news:au43e45p8lrehlern...@4ax.com...
I AM an English person and the problem was that the miners OR rather the
leader Scargill they stupidly followed wanted not just to "have a say" but
thought he had the power to rule the entire country. It was either him or
Thatcher and they picked the wrong side, they were the past, she was the
future, sad as it may be, you HAVE to embrace the future. She forced
modernisation on this nation(Wapping finally showed everybody that the
unions were just backward luddites) plus she invented the home market and
made us the FX centre of the world. Try to deny it all you like and mention
minor unemployment blips etc but that's fact - you wouldn't own your own
home, stocks & shares, have a powerhouse city of London etc without her. And
even when it was revealed Scargill nicked your grandfather's money, the
miners still supported him, I found that a shame, what did it say to you?
Iceberg
wasn't there a big call for the 1st Amendment to be removed in yankland a
while ago because you should only use "responsible"(ie.politically correct)
speech? was that Bush or Clinton?
Dave Hazelwood
Due to the climate of political correctness now pervading America,
Kentuckians, Tennesseans and West Virginians will no longer be
referred to as "HILLBILLIES."You must now refer to them as
APPALACHIAN-AMERICANS.
And furthermore ....
HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT WOMEN AND BE POLITICALLY
CORRECT:
1. She is not a "BABE" or a "CHICK" - She is a
"BREASTED AMERICAN."
2. She is not a "SCREAMER" or a "MOANER" - She is
"VOCALLY APPRECIATIVE."
3. She is not "EASY" - She is "HORIZONTALLY
ACCESSIBLE."
4. She is not a "DUMB BLONDE" - She is a
"LIGHT-HAIRED DETOUR OFF THE
INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY."
5. She has not "BEEN AROUND" - She is a
"PREVIOUSLY-ENJOYED COMPANION."
6. She is not an "AIRHEAD" - She is "REALI TY
IMPAIRED."
7. She does not get "DRUNK" or "TIPSY" - She gets
"CHEMICALLY INCONVENIENCED"
8. She does not have "BREAST IMPLANTS" - She is
"MEDICALLY ENHANCED."
9. She does not "NAG" you - She becomes "VERBALLY
REPETITIVE."
10. She is not a "TRAMP" - She is "SEXUALLY
EXTROVERTED."
11. She does not have "MAJOR LEAGUE HOOTERS" - She
is "PECTORALLY SUPERIOR."
12. She is not a "TWO-BIT HOOKER" - She is a "LOW
COST PROVIDER."
HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT MEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:
1. He does not have a "BEER GUT" - He has developed
a "LIQUID GRAIN STORAGE FACILITY."
2. He is not a "BAD DANCER" - He is "OVERLY
CAUCASIAN."
3. He does not "GET LOST ALL THE TIME" - He
"INVES TIGATES ALTERNATIVE DESTINATIONS."
4. He is not "BALDING" - He is in FOLLICLE REGRESSION."
5. He is not a "CRADLE ROBBER" - He prefers
"GENERATIONAL DIFFERENTIAL RELATIONSHIPS."
6. He does not get "FALLING-DOWN DRUNK" - He
becomes "ACCIDENTALLY HORIZONTAL."
7. He does not act like a "TOTAL ASS" - He develops
a case of RECTAL-CRANIAL INVERSION."
8. He is not a "MALE CHAUVINIST PIG" - He has
"SWINE EMPATHY."
9. He is not afraid of "COMMITMENT" - He is
"RELATIONSHIP CHALLENGED."
10. He is not "HORNY" - He is "SEXUALLY FOCUSED."
11. It's not his "CRACK" you see hanging out of his
pants - It's "REAR CLEAVAGE
John Larkin
No contest. Nancy Pelosi may have just set the record as making the
most stupid, and most expensive, 1-minute speech in human history.
rtsp://video1.c-span.org/project/economy/econ092908_pelosi.rm
John
Dave Hazelwood
i thought it was fantastic and right on the money.
in fact i was disappointed that she didn't say bush and his thieving
minons should all be sent to prison !
Michael
wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:42:15 -0700, John Larkin
>
>
> >No contest. Nancy Pelosi may have just set the record as making the
> >most stupid, and most expensive, 1-minute speech in human history.
>
> >rtsp://video1.c-span.org/project/economy/econ092908_pelosi.rm
>
> >John
>
> i thought it was fantastic and right on the money.
>
> in fact i was disappointed that she didn't say bush and his thieving
> minons should all be sent to prison !
Come on, people, what are we discussing? Palin is not the brightest
bulb on the Christmas tree, what else is new??
The last gesture I made was donating to Planned Parenthood in Palin
honor and having them send "thank you" note to McCain campaign
headquarters.
I am done ridiculing this woman.
Who picked her up? The guy apparently has a good taste when it comes
to women beauty.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
Would you want to have son (or brother) -in law like this???
anyt...@contractorcom.com
What is it with all these crossposting twats who seem to think that
'retard' is the ultimate insult (not to mention the most used)?
I mean really...if I want to insult someone then it's going to be more
like "YOU FUCKING POINTY HEADED LITTLE PRICK! I WOULDN'T FART IN YOUR
NOSE TO HELP YOU START BREATHING AGAIN IF YOU WERE SUFFERING A HEART
ATTACK! I WOULDN'T PISS ON YOUR MOTHER IF SHE WAS ON FIRE! YOUR FATHER
WAS REJECTED BY THE NAZI'S BECAUSE HE WAS TOO UGLY!
And, YOU DON'T WHICH END OF A GUITAR IS UP!
I mean, come on guys, if you're going to take up my bandwidth at least
make it funny.
Pete
John Larkin
Well, it blew the bailout and cost the US economy 1.2 trillion dollars
in a few hours. It may cost it a lot more, and a few million jobs as
well, in the long term. "Long term" is measured in months here.
It's ironic how much she keeps praising Barney Frank for his economic
wisdom and leadership, when he was perhaps the chief architect of this
disaster. The only business he ever ran was the gay prostitution
service that was run out of his house. How the Mass voters ever
elected him is a mystery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSDnGMzIdo
John
Jenn
John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
So some placed their vote on the most important issue of the year based
on the fact that they were insulted?