OT: Glue Velcro to Leather

Jim Thompson

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Aug 31, 2016, 10:24:02 AM8/31/16

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dca...@krl.org

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Aug 31, 2016, 11:27:46 AM8/31/16

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On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 10:24:02 AM UTC-4, Jim Thompson wrote:
> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
> the leather?
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Rubber cement used to patch tires might be the most flexible. Gorilla Glue ( polyurethane ) might be a stronger adhesive. The stuff used to glue rubber soles on shoes is probably the best , but I do not know where to find it. Are there any shoe repair places near you?

Dan

JW

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Aug 31, 2016, 12:48:11 PM8/31/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) "dca...@krl.org"
<dca...@krl.org> wrote in Message id:
<0f5b55d4-204e-42a8...@googlegroups.com>:

This:
https://www.amazon.com/Shoe-GOO-110212-Adhesive-Black/dp/B004PBOJE8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_Goo

Andy Bennet

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:08:07 PM8/31/16

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On 31/08/2016 15:23, Jim Thompson wrote:
> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
> the leather?
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>

I reckon go to your local cobblers and get it stiched on is the only
effective way.

Andy

Phil Hobbs

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:11:45 PM8/31/16

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On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
> the leather?
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>

Sew it!

The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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John Larkin

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:14:20 PM8/31/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>> the leather?
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>Sew it!
>
>The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
>it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Buy the Velcro with sticky on the back!

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Phil Hobbs

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:19:35 PM8/31/16

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On 08/31/2016 01:14 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>>> the leather?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>> Sew it!
>>
>> The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
>> it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> Buy the Velcro with sticky on the back!
>
>

Some of that industrial Velcro has some serious stickum on it, for sure.
Dunno how well it works on leather.

No doubt Jim's updating his mukluks for the winter. ;)

Artemus

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:25:38 PM8/31/16

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message news:h1qdsb9gvbpj3lkcc...@4ax.com...

I've had excellent results using Barge [all purpose original] Cement to glue leather to leather. I resoled my house moccasins about 30 years ago and they are still flexible with no delamination today.

YMMV w/ velcro.

Art

Tim Wescott

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:43:14 PM8/31/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:14:07 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>>On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>>> the leather?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>>Sew it!
>>
>>The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
>>it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Phil Hobbs
>
> Buy the Velcro with sticky on the back!

And watch it fall off in a week!

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Tim Wescott

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:44:35 PM8/31/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:

> On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>> the leather?
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
> Sew it!
>
> The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
> it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs

Nah, we're engineers.

Genetically engineer pigs that have short, hooked bristles. Then, when
the hide is made into leather and cured correctly, it'll BE velcro!

What could be a more straightforward solution than that?

Jim Thompson

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:45:12 PM8/31/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:19:31 -0400, Phil Hobbs

<pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 08/31/2016 01:14 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>> <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>>>> the leather?
>>>>
>>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>>
>>> Sew it!
>>>
>>> The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
>>> it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil Hobbs
>>
>> Buy the Velcro with sticky on the back!
>>
>>
>Some of that industrial Velcro has some serious stickum on it, for sure.
> Dunno how well it works on leather.
>
>No doubt Jim's updating his mukluks for the winter. ;)
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Came loose from one of wife's favorite sandals.

We have no Winter, but Fall is here, it's below 100°F ;-)

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Jim Thompson

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:46:04 PM8/31/16

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Thanks! Perfect for repairing wife's sandals.

Dave Platt

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Aug 31, 2016, 2:08:11 PM8/31/16

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In article <0f5b55d4-204e-42a8...@googlegroups.com>,

dca...@krl.org <dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>> the leather?

>Rubber cement used to patch tires might be the most flexible. Gorilla Glue ( polyurethane ) might be a stronger adhesive. The stuff used to glue
>rubber soles on shoes is probably the best , but I do not know where to find it. Are there any shoe repair places near you?

The latter would probably be "Barge".

A similar product, perhaps easier to find, is E6000. It's a clear
rubber cement, solvent-based (use it with good ventilation only, it's
kinda fierce), grips very well on most materials, waterproof, remains
stiffly-flexible once cured. Most hardware and home-supply stores
should have it.

My wife has used it for a whole bunch of craft and artwork projects.
A few years ago she decorated an outdoor wall with glass buttons and
colored tiles of various sorts... I bought her the "industrial
adhesive" version which comes in caulking-gun tubes. After about 5
years of exposure to California sunshine and winter rains, a couple
fell off (out of many hundreds) but the rest are fine.

They make a variant of E6000 called "Fabri-Fuse" which is specifically
intended for fabrics. It's even dry-cleaning-safe once cured.

Jim Thompson

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Aug 31, 2016, 3:06:17 PM8/31/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:44:26 -0500, Tim Wescott
<seemyw...@myfooter.really> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>
>> On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>>> the leather?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>> Sew it!
>>
>> The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
>> it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
>Nah, we're engineers.
>
>Genetically engineer pigs that have short, hooked bristles. Then, when
>the hide is made into leather and cured correctly, it'll BE velcro!
>
>What could be a more straightforward solution than that?

That's certainly nerd-optimized >:-}

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Tim Wescott

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Aug 31, 2016, 5:14:32 PM8/31/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:44:26 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>
>> On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>>> the leather?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>> Sew it!
>>
>> The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you
>> bend it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> Nah, we're engineers.
>
> Genetically engineer pigs that have short, hooked bristles. Then, when
> the hide is made into leather and cured correctly, it'll BE velcro!
>
> What could be a more straightforward solution than that?

This makes me wonder: if you had the right "thread" and the right sewing
machine, could you make loop-side Velcro by stitching it into any fabric
with the right mechanical properties? Hook-side requires, well, hooks,
but I think loop-side might be doable.

And yes, this is another nerd-optimized solution, but maybe a tad easier
than genetically engineering animals to have Velcro fur.

Chris

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Aug 31, 2016, 11:21:38 PM8/31/16

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On 1/09/2016 3:44 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:11:37 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>
>> On 08/31/2016 10:23 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>>> the leather?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>> Sew it!
>>
>> The additional thickness of material that can't slide around as you bend
>> it is bound to stiffen the asesmbly some.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> Nah, we're engineers.
>
> Genetically engineer pigs that have short, hooked bristles. Then, when
> the hide is made into leather and cured correctly, it'll BE velcro!
>
> What could be a more straightforward solution than that?

Just don't let the sheep into the same paddock...

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axolotyl

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Aug 31, 2016, 11:23:33 PM8/31/16

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Different species...I don't think they'd hook up.

rickman

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Aug 31, 2016, 11:28:45 PM8/31/16

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You don't need to do anything special to make the loop half of velcro.
My hat has a small bit of hook velcro exposed in the back and from time
to time it is nearly pulled off my head when I get up from a cloth chair
with a high back.

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Robert Baer

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Sep 1, 2016, 4:33:56 AM9/1/16

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Jim Thompson wrote:
> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
> the leather?
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Go to Dollar Tree and get their Super Glue Fix-All Adhesive.
Stinks like heck, tho..

Spehro Pefhany

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Sep 1, 2016, 5:28:55 AM9/1/16

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 07:23:51 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-Th...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>the leather?
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Self-adhesive Velcro tape is *wonderful* stuff. You can get Marine
grade etc. etc. up to 2" wide and probably more.

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Mike

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Sep 1, 2016, 7:20:07 AM9/1/16

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In article <ydWdnSj4E_q3ilrK...@giganews.com>,

Tim Wescott <seemyw...@myfooter.really> wrote:

>> Buy the Velcro with sticky on the back!
>
>And watch it fall off in a week!

The adhesive on the Velcro will stick to the surface to the
point of causing damage when trying to remove it.

The Velcro hook will stick the Velcro loop.

What won't stick is the bond between the velcro and its
own adhesive :(

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Spehro Pefhany

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Sep 1, 2016, 7:25:59 AM9/1/16

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On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:04:39 +0100 (BST), the renowned
m...@signal11.invalid (Mike) wrote:

>In article <ydWdnSj4E_q3ilrK...@giganews.com>,
>Tim Wescott <seemyw...@myfooter.really> wrote:
>
>>> Buy the Velcro with sticky on the back!
>>
>>And watch it fall off in a week!
>
>The adhesive on the Velcro will stick to the surface to the
>point of causing damage when trying to remove it.
>
>The Velcro hook will stick the Velcro loop.
>
>What won't stick is the bond between the velcro and its
>own adhesive :(

I've found the stuff to be incredibly tenacious, but I'm sure we
bought the good stuff. Getting it off my phone case and the test PCBs
was challenging. It's reasonably rad-hard too. ;-)

rickman

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Sep 1, 2016, 1:32:12 PM9/1/16

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On 9/1/2016 5:28 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 07:23:51 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-Th...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
>> the leather?
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
> Self-adhesive Velcro tape is *wonderful* stuff. You can get Marine
> grade etc. etc. up to 2" wide and probably more.

I think you mean marine grade, not Marine grade. I don't want to have
to call out the troops every time I use it. ;)

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Spehro Pefhany

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Sep 1, 2016, 9:15:12 PM9/1/16

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LOL. I guess you shouldn't tread on it.

Tom Del Rosso

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Sep 2, 2016, 11:42:31 AM9/2/16

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Jim Thompson wrote:
> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
> the leather?

Before I would risk ruining anything made of leather I would ask someone
in a leather repair shop.

Adrian Tuddenham

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Sep 2, 2016, 12:24:16 PM9/2/16

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Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-Th...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

> What's the best glue to use to glue Velcro to leather and not stiffen
> the leather?

Leather contains natural oils and is often treated with oils and greases
during preparation, so this doesn't bode well for any kind of adhesive.
When the two Velcro strips are pulled apart, the adhesive would be in
tension, rather than shear; it is liable to peel-off, beginning from one
edge.

Stitching it is the only completely reliable way - and a good rugged
domestic machine (Singer 201) will do this if you turn it slowly and use
the right kind of needle and thread.

Don't be tempted to use sticky-backed Velcro and then sew it for good
measure, the adhesive will drag on the needle and thread and will clog
up the machine (I know from practical experience).

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