Burial or cremation?

bi...@eskimo.com

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Apr 13, 2005, 9:35:32 PM4/13/05

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Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"

At first I'd say "I don't care." Or "I'll be dead, it won't
matter to me." Or else I'd start a rant about death-phobic
Americans, and funerals being for the living and not the dead,
and the Mexicans know how it's done; going down to the sepulchre
on Dias de los Muertos. Party with the deceased while being
forced to contemplate your own mortality!

But that didn't stop the question.

Hmmmmmm. Burial or cremation. Only two choices, eh?

Heh.

At first I made a habit of requesting an "Open Casket Cremation."
But then I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
their curiousity.)

Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
spike!

Let's see, what else...

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Ken S. Tucker

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Apr 13, 2005, 10:24:23 PM4/13/05

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b...@eskimo.com wrote:
> Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
> you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"
>
> At first I'd say "I don't care." Or "I'll be dead, it won't
> matter to me." Or else I'd start a rant about death-phobic
> Americans, and funerals being for the living and not the dead,
> and the Mexicans know how it's done; going down to the sepulchre
> on Dias de los Muertos. Party with the deceased while being
> forced to contemplate your own mortality!
>
> But that didn't stop the question.
>
> Hmmmmmm. Burial or cremation. Only two choices, eh?
>
> Heh.
>
> At first I made a habit of requesting an "Open Casket Cremation."
> But then I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
> are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
> glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
> their curiousity.)
>
> Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
> about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
> then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
> spike!
>
> Let's see, what else...

I've willed my body to female CANNIBALS,
preferably AMAZONS, (one last time in a
chick :-).
My 18 year old wife will get to keep
the best parts, to keep her from being
lonely well into her old age.
My meat will be well aged ~ 100 years,
aka well hung.

Abacus

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Apr 13, 2005, 10:58:54 PM4/13/05

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b...@eskimo.com wrote:
> Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
> you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"
>

You could always be plastinized, and gain a little bit or immortality
by appearing on late-night channel 4 dissection programs.

Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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Apr 13, 2005, 11:04:44 PM4/13/05

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bi...@eskimo.com wrote:

> Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
> you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"
>
> At first I'd say "I don't care." Or "I'll be dead, it won't
> matter to me." Or else I'd start a rant about death-phobic
> Americans, and funerals being for the living and not the dead,
> and the Mexicans know how it's done; going down to the sepulchre
> on Dias de los Muertos. Party with the deceased while being
> forced to contemplate your own mortality!
>
> But that didn't stop the question.
>
> Hmmmmmm. Burial or cremation. Only two choices, eh?
>
> Heh.
>
> At first I made a habit of requesting an "Open Casket Cremation."
> But then I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
> are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
> glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
> their curiousity.)
>
> Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
> about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
> then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
> spike!
>
> Let's see, what else...
>

Get stuffed like Jeremy Bentham
http://www.frankieroberto.com/weblog/189.xhtml

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com

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Apr 13, 2005, 11:04:24 PM4/13/05

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>>Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
spike! <<

You could omit the sharpening and dropping part.

Look, if you had a hard drive crash full of irreplacable data, and the
recovery company said there was no way they knew how to recover any of
it in 2005, though some or even most of it might still be there in some
form, what would you do? Cremate it? Bury it?

Well, your brain is much the same kind of thing. Put it on the shelf
and see what the future brings.

SBH

Scott Stephens

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:23:21 AM4/14/05

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bi...@eskimo.com wrote:

> I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
> are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
> glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
> their curiousity.)

Perhaps its a matter for satisfaction or relief of fear, that the
hated/feared family member might return for retribution.

Why not do a web search on burial and cremation, and report back? I'll
swag that Christians, expecting resurrection, the vain, desiring
post-mortem worship, and those that cannot accept death will desire burial.

Those with contempt for society would desire cremation, for the opposite
reason; it puts them beyond any final acts of dishonor.

If you really want to do something novel, donate your body to science
and let some interns play pranks with your body parts.

Scott

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Apr 14, 2005, 12:27:17 AM4/14/05

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In article <5sidnU7yN5w...@comcast.com>, Scott Stephens <sco...@comcast.net> writes:
>bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
>
>> I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
>> are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
>> glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
>> their curiousity.)
>
>Perhaps its a matter for satisfaction or relief of fear, that the
>hated/feared family member might return for retribution.
>
>Why not do a web search on burial and cremation, and report back? I'll
>swag that Christians, expecting resurrection, the vain, desiring
>post-mortem worship, and those that cannot accept death will desire burial.
>
>Those with contempt for society would desire cremation, for the opposite
>reason; it puts them beyond any final acts of dishonor.
>
>If you really want to do something novel, donate your body to science
>and let some interns play pranks with your body parts.
>

More useful, for sure, but hardly novel.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
me...@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"

Scott Stephens

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:33:02 AM4/14/05

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Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:

> Get stuffed like Jeremy Bentham
> http://www.frankieroberto.com/weblog/189.xhtml

That's getting popular! I've searched for the last several minutes for
an article, posted on another news group last year, about people that
have their family members stuffed. It costs a few thousand dollars. One
woman had her child stuffed. A family had there grandma stuffed, but the
foot started mildewing and the dog chewed it off and buried it or something.

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hanson

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Apr 14, 2005, 12:50:57 AM4/14/05

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"Don Taylor" <do...@agora.rdrop.com> wrote in message
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> "Abacus" <cwoc...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> >b...@eskimo.com wrote:
> >> Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask,
> >> "When you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"
>

> "Abacus" <cwoc...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> >You could always be plastinized, and gain a little bit or immortality
> >by appearing on late-night channel 4 dissection programs.
>

[Don]
> Scientific American published an article about 100 years ago
> which described patents that had been obtained for
> ------- electroplating the dead. ------------
> I had photocopies of this buried here somewhere years ago.
> It included a drawing of an infant suspended in a tank with the
> electrodes attached. But I'm guessing they made this part up.
>
[hanson]
I wouldn't be surprised if that was a limited fad in certain social
circles at a certain period in time. A version of preservation of
state was popular till the early 1960's, where parents decided
to have the first baby shoes of their offspring electroplated with
silver of gold. They then hung them from the rearview mirror in
their family station wagon...... ahahaha.... hey, different strokes
for different folks..... ahahaha... ahahanson

OsherD

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:22:13 AM4/14/05

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>From Osher Doctorow

Don't die. Get a big family or your clan to pickle your brain in
alcohol (Harris probably had this idea too) at approximately the moment
of death and have them keep running with it like Raiders of the Lost
Ark. It's true that from all that we can tell with instruments,
there's an awful lot of destruction of brain cells and no sign of
consciousness, but heck, there's even information coming out of black
holes and according to some big theorists some of it encoded into
spacetime geometry near black holes. Someday another Civilization
smarter than ours (probably another species too, unless you have a
hangup on apes) may decide to revive whatever's left or clone our
brains from what's left. Of course, with all that alcohol, we might
start resembling some of the Elitists on sci.physics.

Osher Doctorow

RST Engineering (jw)

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:51:18 AM4/14/05

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You idiots that respond to this with bottom posting do understand that
nobody reads your posts, don't you?

Jim

OsherD

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:57:16 AM4/14/05

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>From Osher Doctorow

RST Engineering (jw) said:

Could you run that by me again? I was born 66 years ago approximately,
before they handed out computers. I guess that just makes me a visitor
on the internet. :>)

Osher

Bill Bailley

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Apr 14, 2005, 2:06:39 AM4/14/05

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<bi...@eskimo.com> wrote in message
news:1113442532.8...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
> you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"
>
> At first I'd say "I don't care." Or "I'll be dead, it won't
> matter to me." Or else I'd start a rant about death-phobic
> Americans, and funerals being for the living and not the dead,
> and the Mexicans know how it's done; going down to the sepulchre
> on Dias de los Muertos. Party with the deceased while being
> forced to contemplate your own mortality!
>
> But that didn't stop the question.
>
> Hmmmmmm. Burial or cremation. Only two choices, eh?
>

> Let's see, what else...
>
>
>
> Heh.
>
> At first I made a habit of requesting an "Open Casket Cremation."
> But then I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
> are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
> glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
> their curiousity.)
>
> Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
> about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
> then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
> spike!
>

I think I would like the ultimate no frills burial. Use a 20 foot long auger
on a post hole digger, and just tamp me in all the way to the bottom of the
hole. This would put me well into the clay layer, and the ground could be
then used for almost any other purpose as soon as the soil was compacted
back into the hole. 15 minute job start to finish.

Relatives that were not liked could be inserted head first :<))

Lambing Flat

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Apr 14, 2005, 3:08:49 AM4/14/05

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Scott Stephens wrote:

> If you really want to do something novel, donate your body to science
> and let some interns play pranks with your body parts.

But Scott, what if Science doesn't want it..... ;-)

--
James McInerney

My G gauge garden homage to the now long gone railways of Tasmania's
west coast, the "Rurr Valley Railway"
http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html

also http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , where the steam era NSWGR
secondary lines live on in HO at bucolic "Lambing Flat"

and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!

Paul Burke

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Apr 14, 2005, 3:43:25 AM4/14/05

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bi...@eskimo.com wrote:

> Hmmmmmm. Burial or cremation. Only two choices, eh?
>

> At first I made a habit of requesting an "Open Casket Cremation."
> But then I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
> are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
> glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
> their curiousity.)

Perhaps prompted by the case last year in which a crematorium operator
was found to be simply stacking the corpses up round the back? At least
this way you can see that you are getting your moneysworth.

Paul Burke

Spehro Pefhany

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Apr 14, 2005, 5:34:36 AM4/14/05

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:33:02 -0600, the renowned Scott Stephens
<sco...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
>
>> Get stuffed like Jeremy Bentham
>> http://www.frankieroberto.com/weblog/189.xhtml
>
>That's getting popular! I've searched for the last several minutes for
>an article, posted on another news group last year, about people that
>have their family members stuffed. It costs a few thousand dollars. One
>woman had her child stuffed. A family had there grandma stuffed, but the
>foot started mildewing and the dog chewed it off and buried it or something.
>
>Scott

The stuffed great leaders seem to require regular maintenance- Lenin,
Mao, Bulgaria's Georgi Dimitrov (taken off display and cremated in
1990), and Ho Chi Minh are the ones that come to mind. Hmm.. maybe a
combination of animatronics, tanning and taxidermy could preserve some
of your more annoying^H^H^H characteristic mannerisms and witticisms
for posterity.

There are companies that claim to take your remains and make precious
stones or pottery from them (after cremation).

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Apr 14, 2005, 6:14:25 AM4/14/05

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Spehro Pefhany said:

> combination of animatronics, tanning and taxidermy could preserve some
> of your more annoying^H^H^H characteristic mannerisms and witticisms
> for posterity.

I suggest reading Tom Sharpe's book "The Throwback", which actually
describes (in exquisite detail) the process of combining animatronics &
taxidermy on the human body.

It's a very very funny book.

--
Cheers,
Ade.

AJW

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Apr 14, 2005, 7:57:44 AM4/14/05

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To paraphrase Bob Hope, who when asked where he wanted to be buried,
said "surprise me."

More seriously, I'd seen too many gravesites looking lonely and uncared
for: my answer is an unmarked site, or none at all. Cremation is the
ultimate sharing: assuming a well mixed atmosphere, everyone will
breathe part of you with every breath.

Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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Apr 14, 2005, 8:09:59 AM4/14/05

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Cryonics - Alcor.

Spehro Pefhany

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Apr 14, 2005, 8:29:43 AM4/14/05

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Wikipedia: "Readers tend to find Sharpe's work either extremely
offensive or outrageously funny." ;-)

Okay, I'll pick it up.

Maleki

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On 13 Apr 2005 18:35:32 -0700, bi...@eskimo.com wrote:

> Let's see, what else...

Check out "towers of silence" of Iran.

--

"gusfande ghorbuni ham tuye azA koshte misheh ham tu
arusi."

Maleki

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Apr 14, 2005, 9:35:52 AM4/14/05

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On 13 Apr 2005 20:04:24 -0700, Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com
wrote:

> Well, your brain is much the same kind of thing. Put it on the shelf
> and see what the future brings.

It'll beat the purpose. Dying is part of it all.

--

"khodAyA:
roshde elmi va aghliye marA az fazilate _ta'assob_
va _ehsAs_ va _eshrAgh_ mahrum nasAz."

- Ali Shari'ati

Gregory L. Hansen

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Apr 14, 2005, 9:50:59 AM4/14/05

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In article <1113442532.8...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,

<bi...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
>you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"

Cremation eliminates the option of rising from the grave and terrorizing
the villagers, although you could still fly up people's noses.

>Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
>about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
>then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
>spike!
>
>Let's see, what else...

Look into donating your body to science. You don't get to say exactly
what's done with it, but you might be buried in a forensics garden,
provide data on the physical durability of humans for auto manufacturers,
be dissected by medical students, or any number of possibilities. See the
book "Stiff", by Mary Roach.

--
"Not that there's anything wrong with just lying around on your back. In
its way, rotting is interesing too... It's just that there are other ways
to spend your time as a cadaver." -- Mary Roach, "Stiff", 2003.

Spehro Pefhany

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Apr 14, 2005, 10:51:15 AM4/14/05

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:33:47 -0500, the renowned Maleki
<male...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 13 Apr 2005 18:35:32 -0700, bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
>
>> Let's see, what else...
>
>Check out "towers of silence" of Iran.

Or the Tibetan "sky burials".

Uncle Al

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Apr 14, 2005, 10:52:22 AM4/14/05

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bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
>
> Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
> you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"
>
> At first I'd say "I don't care." Or "I'll be dead, it won't
> matter to me." Or else I'd start a rant about death-phobic
> Americans, and funerals being for the living and not the dead,
> and the Mexicans know how it's done; going down to the sepulchre
> on Dias de los Muertos. Party with the deceased while being
> forced to contemplate your own mortality!
>
> But that didn't stop the question.
>
> Hmmmmmm. Burial or cremation. Only two choices, eh?
>
> Heh.
>
> At first I made a habit of requesting an "Open Casket Cremation."
> But then I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
> are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
> glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
> their curiousity.)
>
> Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
> about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
> then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
> spike!
>
> Let's see, what else...

Google
plastination 18,200 hits

Cremate is primarily calcium phosphate from calcined skeleton. You
are some 3-5 lbs of finest bone china. Have yourself secondarily
fired into upscale adult toys. Prince Charles would like that now
that his second wife no longer needs tampons.

--
Uncle Al
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

Maleki

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Apr 14, 2005, 11:11:47 AM4/14/05

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:51:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:33:47 -0500, the renowned Maleki
> <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On 13 Apr 2005 18:35:32 -0700, bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Let's see, what else...
>>
>>Check out "towers of silence" of Iran.
>
> Or the Tibetan "sky burials".
>
>

Yes, that's also nice. But a little bit morbid, requiring
someone actually cut up the dead. In Iran's Tower of Silence
the dead is left by themselves inside such enclosures up in
the mountains, and the family climbs down back to their
houses. A couple of weeks later they go up again to gather
the remaining bones and throw them in the central ditch the
place has. the ditch is open at the top, so the bones join
the ones of earlier generations and together they watch the
Sun and stars every day and night, and the snow and rain,
for ever. I'd like to go that way.

Here's one of them:
http://www.photosource.co.uk/christineosborne/graphics/cop246.jpg

--

"_gorize_ be hoseyn va AshurAye hoseyn sonnati sakht
amigh va besyAr porma'ni va shAyesteye ta'ammol
ast. har lahzeh rA bAyad be dAstAne 'u peyvand
dAd. har ruz rA bAyad be AshurA peyvast, hameye
mAh-hA rA be moharram, hameye noghtehAye zamin rA
be An gusheye sorkh. az harche matrah ast, towhid,
maz-hab, ghor'An, mohammad, ali, hajj, ebAdat,
falsafeh, erfAn, eshgh, imAn, shAdi, gham, ..., az
har aghide'i har sonnati, har mas'ale'i har rasmi,
az har bo'di az ab'Ade zendegi, ejtemA', tArikh,
akhlAgh, ruh, va az harke va harche, bAyad be
hoseyn va AshurAye hoseyn _goriz_ zad.

bAyad be dAstAne 'u peyvand khord. vagarnah
mojarrad va motlaghim. vagarnah mobham va
bisamarim. mehvare harche ke hast amale 'ust."

- Ali Shari'ati

Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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Apr 14, 2005, 11:38:44 AM4/14/05

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Uncle Al wrote:

His first wife doesn't either.

Leonard Caillouet

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Apr 14, 2005, 11:50:58 AM4/14/05

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I'd prefer to be blown up...and include the copy of XP that I have tha I
don't use.

Leonard

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Dirk Bruere at Neopax

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Apr 14, 2005, 12:30:27 PM4/14/05

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Spehro Pefhany wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:14:25 +0100, the renowned Ade Vickers
> <javi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Spehro Pefhany said:
>>
>>
>>>combination of animatronics, tanning and taxidermy could preserve some
>>>of your more annoying^H^H^H characteristic mannerisms and witticisms
>>>for posterity.
>>
>>I suggest reading Tom Sharpe's book "The Throwback", which actually
>>describes (in exquisite detail) the process of combining animatronics &
>>taxidermy on the human body.
>>
>>It's a very very funny book.
>
>
> Wikipedia: "Readers tend to find Sharpe's work either extremely
> offensive or outrageously funny." ;-)
>
> Okay, I'll pick it up.

I think 'Throwback' is the best.

Scott Stephens

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:40:38 PM4/14/05

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Lambing Flat wrote:
> Scott Stephens wrote:
>
>> If you really want to do something novel, donate your body to
>> science and let some interns play pranks with your body parts.
>
>
> But Scott, what if Science doesn't want it..... ;-)

http://nietzsche.thefreelibrary.com/Thus-Spake-Zarathustra/59-1
"> My sighing sat on all human graves, and could no longer arise: my
> sighing and questioning croaked and choked, and gnawed and nagged day
> and night:
>
> --"Ah, man returneth eternally! The small man returneth eternally!"
>
> Naked had I once seen both of them, the greatest man and the smallest
> man: all too like one another--all too human, even the greatest man!
>
> All too small, even the greatest man!--that was my disgust at man!
> And the eternal return also of the smallest man!--that was my disgust
> at all existence!
>
> Ah, Disgust! Disgust! Disgust!--Thus spake Zarathustra, and sighed
> and shuddered; for he remembered his sickness. Then did his animals
> prevent him from speaking further.
" - Nietzsche

Scott Stephens

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:42:54 PM4/14/05

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Leonard Caillouet wrote:

> I'd prefer to be blown up...and include the copy of XP that I have tha I
> don't use.

I'm thinking of the scene in "Doctor Stranglove" where the cowboy sits
on a hung H-bomb to release it, and ends up riding it down to ground-0 =)

Paul Burke

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Apr 14, 2005, 12:45:35 PM4/14/05

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Maleki wrote:

>
> Check out "towers of silence" of Iran.
>

Don't know about Iranian Zoroastrians, but the Indian Parsees (same
religion) are having trouble because the vultures that pick the bones
clean are dying out, poisoned by agricultural advances.

Paul Burke

Maleki

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:14:17 PM4/14/05

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Certainly there are enough dead in those areas to sustain
voltures on a constant basis, making it unnecessary for them
to eat anything else (this is so in Iran's). So if the birds
are dying out it must be something in the flesh of the dead.
Too much spices? :)
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Uncle Al

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Apr 14, 2005, 2:38:55 PM4/14/05

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Or, dip the dead body in Pd(II) to prime it, then electrolessly plate,
then electroplate a nice thick layer of metal. One might do well to
remove labile organics thereafter re decomposition gas production. I
suppose one could dip in Aquadag and then plate. Lacks aesthetics.

Michael A. Terrell

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Who gives a shit what you like, Jim? I see that your social skills
haven't improved, either.

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Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Paul Hovnanian P.E.

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Apr 14, 2005, 10:54:30 PM4/14/05

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I want to be entombed in Yucca Mountain. That way its not likely that
any nosey anthropologists will try to dig me up for a few hundred
thousand years.

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hanson

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Apr 14, 2005, 11:45:40 PM4/14/05

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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Pa...@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:425F2CE6...@Hovnanian.com...

> I want to be entombed in Yucca Mountain. That way its
> not likely that any nosey anthropologists will try to dig
> me up for a few hundred thousand years.

> Paul Hovnanian
>
[hanson]
Well, well, well.... ahahaha... last night, the interns were
arguing about this issue. One of them worried over his
bones quite the opposite. He wanted to get buried safely
so that a few hundred thousand years from now some
nosey anthropologists will dig up his bones and exhibit
"him" in a museum.... Hey, different strokes for.....
ahahaha... ahahanson

Paul Hovnanian P.E.

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The 'news' spot on Saturday Night Live did an obituary on Mary Leakey
(anthropologist and wife of Louis Leakey) when she passed away. It ended
with something like, "...where she was laid to rest and will remain
until some other anthropologist digs her up".

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pete