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OT: Name of Truss Nail Plates

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rickman

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Aug 11, 2017, 12:13:14 PM8/11/17
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I'm looking for the truss nail plates they use instead of nailing joints in
trusses. These plates have stamped points bent out of the plane of the
plate which are driven into the wood and anchor like nails.

I found lots of Mending Plates but the catalog specifically says not to use
them in truss applications. Meanwhile the catalog shows something just like
the Mending Plates in every truss drawing they provide.

So what are they called when used on trusses? I can't find them under Truss
Connectors or by searching on Plate. I'm looking online and in the Simpson
Strong-Tie catalog.

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bloggs.fred...@gmail.com

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Aug 11, 2017, 12:31:30 PM8/11/17
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Those are pressed into place. There is a science to it, and it requires a calibrated machine. You see a few fools hammering them in place, but they don't know what they're doing and end up with weak trusses.

tabb...@gmail.com

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Aug 11, 2017, 1:43:26 PM8/11/17
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On Friday, 11 August 2017 17:31:30 UTC+1, bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 12:13:14 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
> > I'm looking for the truss nail plates they use instead of nailing joints in
> > trusses. These plates have stamped points bent out of the plane of the
> > plate which are driven into the wood and anchor like nails.
> >
> > I found lots of Mending Plates but the catalog specifically says not to use
> > them in truss applications. Meanwhile the catalog shows something just like
> > the Mending Plates in every truss drawing they provide.
> >
> > So what are they called when used on trusses? I can't find them under Truss
> > Connectors or by searching on Plate. I'm looking online and in the Simpson
> > Strong-Tie catalog.
>
> Those are pressed into place. There is a science to it, and it requires a calibrated machine. You see a few fools hammering them in place, but they don't know what they're doing and end up with weak trusses.

I'd be surprised if anywhere sells them. Small scale buyer market size must be very close to zero.


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amdx

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Aug 11, 2017, 2:20:00 PM8/11/17
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I have bought them before, but I'll admit it was many years ago.
This is what I'm thinking about.
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/USP-2-3-4-in-x-5-1-4-in-Mending-Plate/3374516


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Martin Riddle

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Aug 11, 2017, 2:29:03 PM8/11/17
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Gusset ?

bloggs.fred...@gmail.com

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Aug 11, 2017, 2:51:46 PM8/11/17
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They should be available to small truss building enterprises. There's something about pressing versus hammering that causes the small blades in connector plate to wedge into the wood fibers, versus smashing through them by hammering, that makes for a strong permanent bond. If it's a home project, he's better off making triangular gussets cut from 1/2" OSB.

Bob Engelhardt

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Aug 11, 2017, 3:09:14 PM8/11/17
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rickman

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Aug 11, 2017, 5:28:01 PM8/11/17
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Not the same thing. Everyone sells these, but I think the nail part is
shorter and they are designed for repairing pallets and such. The Simpson
catalog specifically say not to use them for trusses. I guess Bloggs is
right, they just don't sell them for individuals to use.

That's ok, I have a better idea anyway.

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rickman

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Aug 11, 2017, 5:33:42 PM8/11/17
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Bob Engelhardt wrote on 8/11/2017 3:08 PM:
> https://www.strongtie.com/trussplates_platedtrussconnectors/trussplates_productgroup_wcc/p/truss-connector-plates

Yes, I found that, but the catalog linked to on that page does not contain
that product.

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TTman

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Aug 11, 2017, 6:03:30 PM8/11/17
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The trade name is 'gang nail'..

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k...@notreal.com

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Aug 11, 2017, 6:21:58 PM8/11/17
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You probably don't see them because trusses hand-made with them won't
be to code. If you want to make trusses, you can use plywood braces,
as long as they're nailed properly.

k...@notreal.com

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Aug 11, 2017, 6:22:37 PM8/11/17
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Particularly since you can't get a CO for a building made with them.

Bob Engelhardt

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Aug 11, 2017, 6:53:51 PM8/11/17
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Jasen Betts

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Aug 14, 2017, 8:01:13 AM8/14/17
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"gang-nail" is the generic term here-abouts. (hmm, seems to be a band name)

The ones for trusses are for press application instead of hammer
application. unless you have a sutable press to apply them to the
joint the result may be less than ideal.


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