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Has anyone seen the innards of a Touch Tunes jukebox?
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pi...@nohoo.com
Mar 7, 2012, 2:22:15 AM3/7/12
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Has anyone seen the innards of a Touch Tunes jukebox?
If you're not familiar with this brand of jukebox, they seem to be the
latest thing in bars and other entertainment places. They are internet
music, which means they have nearly every song ever produced, and when
you punch in a song, if it's not stored on the jukebox, it quickly
downloads it, and plays it. Even more interesting, is that anyone can
go to their website, and play a song on one of these jukeboxes at any
place that has one (for pay). In other words, if the bar a block from
my house has one, I can control the thing from my computer at home, or
from a cellphone with internet access.
While all of this is sort of fascinating and bizarre in another way, my
reason for posting this is because of their sound quality. The sound on
these things is better than most live bands, better than most top of the
line audiophile sound systems I've heard. In fact I was recently in a
bar where they have a whole wall of professional speakers that would be
used for a rock band sound system. They were playing some music, and
when that ended, they turned on this Touch Tunes jukebox and the sound
quality was far better.
The most impressive part of them, is the low end bass. It gets right
down into the 20 to 50hz range and is clear as a bell. You can feel the
whole building move. What I'd like to dind outy is what's powering that
thing? It's just a typical sized jukebox, yet it sounds like it has
some giant woofers, and the amp must have reserve power up the ass. I'm
older, so I dont much care for this music the kids listen to, but some
of that stuff has very powewrful bass that drops way down in that 20 to
50hz range and it comes out clear as a bell. You can see glasses and
bottles moving on tables. Yet, it's all comeing out of that one box
with no external speakers.
Their website does not say anything about their equipment, just a site
trying to get you to pay for some songs. I really want to know what's
inside. What is that amplifier, how much power, what are it's specs,
and what brand and type of speakers are being used. I'd like to get my
hands on just the amp and speakers from one of these.....
If anyone knows more about them, please share!
Thanks
If you're not familiar with this brand of jukebox, they seem to be the
latest thing in bars and other entertainment places. They are internet
music, which means they have nearly every song ever produced, and when
you punch in a song, if it's not stored on the jukebox, it quickly
downloads it, and plays it. Even more interesting, is that anyone can
go to their website, and play a song on one of these jukeboxes at any
place that has one (for pay). In other words, if the bar a block from
my house has one, I can control the thing from my computer at home, or
from a cellphone with internet access.
While all of this is sort of fascinating and bizarre in another way, my
reason for posting this is because of their sound quality. The sound on
these things is better than most live bands, better than most top of the
line audiophile sound systems I've heard. In fact I was recently in a
bar where they have a whole wall of professional speakers that would be
used for a rock band sound system. They were playing some music, and
when that ended, they turned on this Touch Tunes jukebox and the sound
quality was far better.
The most impressive part of them, is the low end bass. It gets right
down into the 20 to 50hz range and is clear as a bell. You can feel the
whole building move. What I'd like to dind outy is what's powering that
thing? It's just a typical sized jukebox, yet it sounds like it has
some giant woofers, and the amp must have reserve power up the ass. I'm
older, so I dont much care for this music the kids listen to, but some
of that stuff has very powewrful bass that drops way down in that 20 to
50hz range and it comes out clear as a bell. You can see glasses and
bottles moving on tables. Yet, it's all comeing out of that one box
with no external speakers.
Their website does not say anything about their equipment, just a site
trying to get you to pay for some songs. I really want to know what's
inside. What is that amplifier, how much power, what are it's specs,
and what brand and type of speakers are being used. I'd like to get my
hands on just the amp and speakers from one of these.....
If anyone knows more about them, please share!
Thanks
Joel Koltner
Mar 7, 2012, 12:09:22 PM3/7/12
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...
power amplifiers can be very efficient (they operate class D --
switching), and that at bass frequencies op-amps are fast enough that
some manufacturers do "close a loop" around the subwoofer, measuring the
cone's displacement vs. commanded position (the instantaneous input
audio); filtering can be readily added as well in such cases.
The end result is that accurate and high-power bass is relatively
inexpensive these days.
---Joel
> The most impressive part of them, is the low end bass.
I don't know what's inside, although I am aware that these days audio
power amplifiers can be very efficient (they operate class D --
switching), and that at bass frequencies op-amps are fast enough that
some manufacturers do "close a loop" around the subwoofer, measuring the
cone's displacement vs. commanded position (the instantaneous input
audio); filtering can be readily added as well in such cases.
The end result is that accurate and high-power bass is relatively
inexpensive these days.
---Joel
Joel Koltner
Mar 7, 2012, 12:25:06 PM3/7/12
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OK, I couldn't resist Googling this a bit...
Touch Tunes has various different models, but the amps/speakers are
apparently from Bose. One web site reads, "These aren't just jukeboxes,
they're an awesome, all-in-one sound system! With the help of Bose©, the
Touch Tunes Digital Jukebox will blow you away. Powerful amps, speaker,
and sub-woofers deliver music like you've never heard from a traditional
jukebox."
Not everyone likes Bose that much, but they definitely know how to build
audio systems that many people find pleasing.
Interesting article about Touch Tunes pros and cons vs. traditional
jukeboxes: http://www.thebollard.com/bollard/?p=6801 .
...and one can find them for sale on eBay... intriguing... this one has
various photos of the innards:
www.ebay.com/itm/Touch-Tunes-Allegro-Jukebox-Gen-3-/170796975147
---Joel
Touch Tunes has various different models, but the amps/speakers are
apparently from Bose. One web site reads, "These aren't just jukeboxes,
they're an awesome, all-in-one sound system! With the help of Bose©, the
Touch Tunes Digital Jukebox will blow you away. Powerful amps, speaker,
and sub-woofers deliver music like you've never heard from a traditional
jukebox."
Not everyone likes Bose that much, but they definitely know how to build
audio systems that many people find pleasing.
Interesting article about Touch Tunes pros and cons vs. traditional
jukeboxes: http://www.thebollard.com/bollard/?p=6801 .
...and one can find them for sale on eBay... intriguing... this one has
various photos of the innards:
www.ebay.com/itm/Touch-Tunes-Allegro-Jukebox-Gen-3-/170796975147
---Joel
Jim Thompson
Mar 7, 2012, 12:40:56 PM3/7/12
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I have three 100-CD "juke-box" changers tucked away in a closet, with
only the controller visible in our great room. I've had them for so
many years I don't remember the cost... for me it had to be cheap ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Joel Koltner
Mar 7, 2012, 1:32:38 PM3/7/12
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Jim Thompson wrote:
> Wow! People actually spend that kind of money to get fooked ?:-)
They're mainly aiming at businesses, but I suppose a few really
> Wow! People actually spend that kind of money to get fooked ?:-)
well-heeled folks might buy them for personal use.
> I have three 100-CD "juke-box" changers tucked away in a closet, with
> only the controller visible in our great room. I've had them for so
> many years I don't remember the cost... for me it had to be cheap ;-)
that your Roku units could play them all back yet? :-)
Jim Thompson
Mar 7, 2012, 1:48:33 PM3/7/12
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For serious music listening I retire to the great room and the
7-speaker surround system... I recorded the BBC re-do of the stage
version of "Phantom" a few nights ago, and will get out the wine and
cheese and watch that tonight ;-)
bitrex
Mar 7, 2012, 2:17:32 PM3/7/12
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they use in their home units:
http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/en_au/web/acoustimass_technology/page.html
Les Cargill
Mar 7, 2012, 4:27:21 PM3/7/12
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Joel Koltner wrote:
> pi...@nohoo.com wrote:
>> Has anyone seen the innards of a Touch Tunes jukebox?
> ...
>> The most impressive part of them, is the low end bass.
>
> I don't know what's inside,
They're essentially Bose products, right? Bose has
> pi...@nohoo.com wrote:
>> Has anyone seen the innards of a Touch Tunes jukebox?
> ...
>> The most impressive part of them, is the low end bass.
>
> I don't know what's inside,
some sharp people working for them, and they are not
all that tied to "things must be flat".
> although I am aware that these days audio
> power amplifiers can be very efficient (they operate class D --
> switching), and that at bass frequencies op-amps are fast enough that
> some manufacturers do "close a loop" around the subwoofer, measuring the
> cone's displacement vs. commanded position (the instantaneous input
> audio); filtering can be readily added as well in such cases.
>
> The end result is that accurate and high-power bass is relatively
> inexpensive these days.
>
> ---Joel
about '05. You can find Velodyne models for cheap on ebay... I
expect that subs have just gotten better as people have bought more
5.1 and 7.1 systems...
--
Les Cargill
pi...@nohoo.com
Mar 9, 2012, 2:33:46 AM3/9/12
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not know how the songs are stored, retrived, or that a person has to pay
extra to get certain songs. The whole thing sounds like a rip-off to
me. At the same time, I do think their sound is about the best I've
heard.
The ebay link answered a lot of questions. The one we have in the local
bar is that same one (Allegro). I noticed that the ebay ad says you
cant use it without a contract with Touch Tunes. I bet that could be
modified for home use. Actually, I'd just like to get my hands on the
speakers and power amp. I can feed it from the over 4000 songs on my
computer as well as a cd player, and other input devices, including a
record player (yea, I'm showing my age). I was amazed at the small size
of the electronics inside. I was expecting a huge power amp with giant
capacitors and huge heat sinks. Instead most of that box is full of
nothing but air. I wish they showed more of the speakers on those
photos, but now I have a better understanding of them.
I noticed the one in the pictures says "Bose" on the front. Next time I
get to the bar I'll have to look for that label. Now I know why Bose
speakers are always the most expensive. They really got the sound!
Thanks
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