Find Sofas
lindi
D from BC
Looked like it slid off a truck. :P
Is it stealing if I take a sofa I find in the middle of the road?
It might be a little embarrassing if the owner returns and sees me
loading it on my pickup.
"Oh...I'm just ..ummm....moving it so it doesn't cause an accident" :P
D from BC
British Columbia
Canada
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I would rather find a spammer in the middle of the road.
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D from BC
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>D from BC wrote:
>>
>> Saw a nice sofa in the middle of the road one day.
>> Looked like it slid off a truck. :P
>>
>> Is it stealing if I take a sofa I find in the middle of the road?
>>
>> It might be a little embarrassing if the owner returns and sees me
>> loading it on my pickup.
>>
>> "Oh...I'm just ..ummm....moving it so it doesn't cause an accident" :P
>>
>
>
> I would rather find a spammer in the middle of the road.
I bet spammers tell friends and family they into 'online advertising'
or something like that.
Sofa spammers don't seem so bad..
The dude that keeps emailing me to sell me the .com version of my
domain for almost $1000.00 is getting annoying.
mpm
wrote:
I don't know Mike....
The convenience of buying your sofas at a place that only has ONE
shopping cart has got to be worth the extra time and effort.!!!
I didn't even know you could fit a sofa in a shopping cart! Go
figure.
-mpm
D/BC: I think anything you find in the middle of the road is fair
game.
Except hookers of course, but then, they usually have the sense to
stay on the sidewalk.
D from BC
wrote:
>On Jul 20, 12:54?pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
I think hookers can be an indicator of how attractive the women are in
a region.
Here's the theory...
Ugly hookers = possibly ugly women in general for that region.
The hookers have to compete in looks with the local women.
Hot hookers = possibly hot women in general for that region.
So if a guy is looking to move to where all the beautiful women are,
he can check if the hookers are hot.
If not, bad sign.
amdx
"D from BC" <myreal...@comic.com> wrote in message
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> Saw a nice sofa in the middle of the road one day.
> Looked like it slid off a truck. :P
>
> Is it stealing if I take a sofa I find in the middle of the road?
>
road about 25 years ago. I drove by and thought it was a stereo box, I
turned back and picked up what turned out to be china. I was more into paper
plates then, so I sold it at a yard sale for $250.00
A nice young couple were getting married and there mother suggested that
it would be nice for them. Yea right! I wonder how much they got for it at
their yardsale?
Mike
Spehro Pefhany
My general observation is that the ungliest hookers are in port
citiers such as Halifax, NS and Marseilles, France. Maybe they're like
the junk food by the cash register- for impulse purchase by the crews
back from long journeys at sea and/or drunk beyond caring. Both are
quite possible well past their "best before" dates.
>D from BC
>British Columbia
>Canada
Best regards,
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>
> My general observation is that the ungliest hookers are in port
> citiers such as Halifax, NS and Marseilles, France. Maybe they're like
> the junk food by the cash register- for impulse purchase by the crews
> back from long journeys at sea and/or drunk beyond caring. Both are
> quite possible well past their "best before" dates.
Are you kidding? They look like they are well past their 'bury by'
date.
MooseFET
> Huge Selections at Great Prices The Convenience of OneCart
>
> http://good-furniture-care.page.tl/
It is sofa king stupid to put your ads here.
D from BC
I"m on the road all over on business and notice the hookers here and
there.
In BC, the hookers generally get more ugly further from the downtown
core.
Martin Griffith
The bordellos are pretty good around here:)))
reminds me of a song by Scott Walker, somehow
martin
Michael A. Terrell
D from BC wrote:
>
> I"m on the road all over on business and notice the hookers here and
> there.
> In BC, the hookers generally get more ugly further from the downtown
> core.
That's just part of the downtown beautification program.
Michael A. Terrell
mpm wrote:
>
> On Jul 20, 12:54�pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> I don't know Mike....
> The convenience of buying your sofas at a place that only has ONE
> shopping cart has got to be worth the extra time and effort.!!!
I have never bought a sofa, and I haven't used the one I have in
almost ten years. The same goes for the three recliners, and the wood
rocking chair. Come to think of it, I have only bought a dining room
table, two computer desks and one bed in the last 55 years.
> I didn't even know you could fit a sofa in a shopping cart! Go
> figure.
You could probably fit one of those IKEA kit things in a shopping
cart.
D from BC
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>D from BC wrote:
>>
>> I"m on the road all over on business and notice the hookers here and
>> there.
>> In BC, the hookers generally get more ugly further from the downtown
>> core.
>
>
> That's just part of the downtown beautification program.
"If elected mayor of Vancouver I promise to get ugly hookers off the
streets..... The hot ones can stay. It's good for tourism." :P
I wonder what hookers do when they get old?
Maybe that 80 year old lady living down my street was once a long time
hooker. :P
Jim Thompson
Wow! You must be _really_ horny ;-)
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Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> Wow! You must be _really_ horny ;-)
It sounds like he has a fetish for ugly woman, too.
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D from BC
ohhhhhhhh.... :)
That must be an old joke.
YD
this immortal opus:
Aaaaauuugh! :-)
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Kris Krieger
news:c1bdd$4883a115$18d6b40c$30...@KNOLOGY.NET:
Wouldn't all of that be classed as "abandoned property"?
Reminds me of those questions people like to ask as "thought experiments in
ethics", like, "If you found $25K in a paper bag on the road, would yo do
try to find the owner, or would you keep it?"
D from BC
wrote:
Ah..that's what I can say if the owner show up and wants the sofa
back...
"I'm sorry sir, I thought it was abandoned."
Kris Krieger
I don't know - it might be legal to do so; whetehr it's ethical is another
matter. The guy also might get cited for creating a traffic hazard, or
some such thing. I don't know how it all works, to be honest.
mpm
> D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote innews:sima84lunom9p75uk...@4ax.com:> >>"amdx" <a...@knology.net> wrote in
> >>news:c1bdd$4883a115$18d6b40c$30...@KNOLOGY.NET:
>
> >>> "D from BC" <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:o8r68497848p0nc3t...@4ax.com...
> >>>> Saw a nice sofa in the middle of the road one day.
> >>>> Looked like it slid off a truck. :P
>
> >>>> Is it stealing if I take a sofa I find in the middle of the road?
>
> >>> �I hope not, I found an unopen box of china in the middle of a four
> >>> �lane
> >>> road about 25 years ago. I drove by and thought it was a stereo box,
> >>> I turned back and picked up what turned out to be china. I was more
> >>> into paper plates then, so I sold it at a yard sale for $250.00
> >>> � A nice young couple were getting married and there mother
> >>> � suggested that
> >>> it would be nice for them. Yea right! I wonder how much they got for
> >>> it at their yardsale?
> >>> � � � � � � � � �Mike
>
> >>Wouldn't all of that be classed as "abandoned property"?
>
> >>Reminds me of those questions people like to ask as "thought
> >>experiments in ethics", like, "If you found $25K in a paper bag on the
> >>road, would yo do try to find the owner, or would you keep it?" �
>
> > Ah..that's what I can say if the owner show up and wants the sofa
> > back...
> > "I'm sorry sir, I thought it was abandoned."
>
> I don't know - it might be legal to do so; whetehr it's ethical is another
> matter. �The guy also might get cited for creating a traffic hazard, or
>
> - Show quoted text -
Legality aside, I don't see an ethics problem here?
If the bag is completely unmarked in any way as to determine its
rightful owner, nor is there any other clue as to who the owner might
be, or a way to verify such a claim of ownership if one were to arise
-- etc..
How is that a matter of ethics?
Let's say you're wealthy beyond believe and don't need the cash.
Even in that case you could argue that it would still be ethical to
grab the cash and give it to charity, else you run the risk of someone
else grabbing the cash who is similarly situation but will keep the
cash to himself.
Can you list the ethical concerns you're thinking of more clearly?
Jim Thompson
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:43:45 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmi...@aol.com>
wrote:
>On Jul 22, 1:04?am, Kris Krieger <m...@dowmuff.in> wrote:
>> D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote innews:sima84lunom9p75uk...@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:21:36 -0500, Kris Krieger <m...@dowmuff.in>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>"amdx" <a...@knology.net> wrote in
>> >>news:c1bdd$4883a115$18d6b40c$30...@KNOLOGY.NET:
>>
>> >>> "D from BC" <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:o8r68497848p0nc3t...@4ax.com...
>> >>>> Saw a nice sofa in the middle of the road one day.
>> >>>> Looked like it slid off a truck. :P
>>
>> >>>> Is it stealing if I take a sofa I find in the middle of the road?
>>
>> >>> ?I hope not, I found an unopen box of china in the middle of a four
>> >>> ?lane
>> >>> road about 25 years ago. I drove by and thought it was a stereo box,
>> >>> I turned back and picked up what turned out to be china. I was more
>> >>> into paper plates then, so I sold it at a yard sale for $250.00
>> >>> ? A nice young couple were getting married and there mother
>> >>> ? suggested that
>> >>> it would be nice for them. Yea right! I wonder how much they got for
>> >>> it at their yardsale?
>> >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Mike
>>
>> >>Wouldn't all of that be classed as "abandoned property"?
>>
>> >>Reminds me of those questions people like to ask as "thought
>> >>experiments in ethics", like, "If you found $25K in a paper bag on the
>> >>road, would yo do try to find the owner, or would you keep it?" ?
>>
>> > Ah..that's what I can say if the owner show up and wants the sofa
>> > back...
>> > "I'm sorry sir, I thought it was abandoned."
>>
>> I don't know - it might be legal to do so; whetehr it's ethical is another
>> matter. ?The guy also might get cited for creating a traffic hazard, or
>> some such thing. ?I don't know how it all works, to be honest. ?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Legality aside, I don't see an ethics problem here?
>If the bag is completely unmarked in any way as to determine its
>rightful owner, nor is there any other clue as to who the owner might
>be, or a way to verify such a claim of ownership if one were to arise
>-- etc..
>
>How is that a matter of ethics?
>Let's say you're wealthy beyond believe and don't need the cash.
>Even in that case you could argue that it would still be ethical to
>grab the cash and give it to charity, else you run the risk of someone
>else grabbing the cash who is similarly situation but will keep the
>cash to himself.
>
>Can you list the ethical concerns you're thinking of more clearly?
Following the letter-of-the-law:
You must either turn the "found" object into the police or post an ad
describing found object.
IIRC after ~30 days you may claim object as your own if their is no
verifiable claimant.
You may charge for the ad and reasonable "rent/storage" fees if a
claimant comes forward.
...Jim Thompson
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Kris Krieger
news:548ee7cf-76cf-4e17...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 22, 1:04�am, Kris Krieger <m...@dowmuff.in> wrote:
>> D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote
>> innews:sima84lunom9p75ukc7p8pke
> 425vl...@4ax.com:
[snipped]
>
> Legality aside, I don't see an ethics problem here?
> If the bag is completely unmarked in any way as to determine its
> rightful owner, nor is there any other clue as to who the owner might
> be, or a way to verify such a claim of ownership if one were to arise
> -- etc..
Well, it has happened (albeit rarely) that someone will identify and
empathize with the person wholos tthe thing, and take out an ad in the
local newspaper's 'lost'n'found' section, citing where it was found and
basing claims on specific identification of the package contents.
OTOH, a different person would think, Geez, ya gotta be stupid to lose
somehting like this - finders, keepers...
>
> How is that a matter of ethics?
A lot of people argue that it is, since it's more ethical to empathize
with the 'victim of circumstance' so to speak.
> Let's say you're wealthy beyond believe and don't need the cash.
> Even in that case you could argue that it would still be ethical to
> grab the cash and give it to charity, else you run the risk of someone
> else grabbing the cash who is similarly situation but will keep the
> cash to himself.
Technically, ethics doesn't depend upon such factors - if it's right to
try to find the person who lost it, it technically shouldn't matter
whether teh person is Bill Gates, or an 80 yr old widow who's barely
scraping by on Social Security. In practice, however, one tends to
empathize far more with the latter, becasue the loss has ao much more of
an impact upon such a person.
>
> Can you list the ethical concerns you're thinking of more clearly?
>
Nah - I just posed a question related to the fact that legalities are one
thing, ethics are often another, becasue thet which is legal is not
always ethical, and that which is illegal is not always unethical.
After a while, tho' it makes my brain hurt, and I go back to doing my
glass work (and trying to figure out my solar light project) ;)
mpm
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For what it's worth, a very wise and old friend of mine once told me:
"You can only have the ethics you can afford."
I'm not too sure he didn't lift that from somebody else, by the way?
-mpm
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Jim Thompson
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:11:28 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmi...@aol.com>
wrote:
>On Jul 22, 10:21?am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
If you quoted enough of the thread so that it's apparent what you are
talking about... that would be nice ;-)
What I said about lost/found property IS the general law in the US.
Kris Krieger
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
Hmm, I don't know whether that's a famous quote.
But I don't agree. Now, if something horrible happnes, and you have to
steal a loaf of bread because you're actually starving, that doesnt' mean
you don't know it's wrong, and doesn't mean that, when your situation
improves, you don't go back and pay the baker back double.
IMO, ethics are fundamentals, they're an integral who and what you are.
Otherwise, tehy're not ethics, they're just window-dressing, a rotten lie,
a veneer of faux civilization that is stripped off whenever things are less
than perfect. I'd prefer soemone who is just openly bad, to someone who is
a proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing - I find the latter rather
dispicable, actually; they're con men.
D from BC
<pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote:
>What luck! I was just looking for one for my front porch.
I went to the Merrit Mountain music festival one year in Merrit BC.
(If curious see http://www.mountainfest.com/)
After the show, we waited for the traffic to clear before leaving the
camp site.
While driving through the camp ground and noticing 2 sofas, it became
a 'spot the sofa in the camp ground game' .
I saw 5.
I guess people brought their old sofas to the camp grounds....and then
abandoned them. :P
Ahhh... sofa, camp fire, beer.....arrrrrfff! :)
mpm
> But I don't agree. �Now, if something horrible happnes, and you have to
> steal a loaf of bread because you're actually starving, that doesnt' mean
> you don't know it's wrong, and doesn't mean that, when your situation
> improves, you don't go back and pay the baker back double. �
>
> IMO, ethics are fundamentals, they're an integral who and what you are....
I guess here's the difference I make.
Ethics are based on one's moral values, but they are in fact separate
things.
In the starvation scenario, I think calling it "wrong" or even a
"crime" would fail two basic moral concepts that would otherwise be
used to justify our ethical judegment. (Regardless of any intention
to repay the merchant for the loaf of bread.)
#1 - Universalizability.
Whatever is right (or wrong) in one situation is right (or wrong) in
any relevantly similar situation.
#2 - Reversibility.
Basically, the Golden Rule. Do onto others... etc..
Ethics very often compete with each other for your attention and
decision-making. And, they very often change from one situation to
the next. So I disagree that they are the core of who you are
(paraphrasing here.) For example, you may consider bribery to be bad
(a form of theft), but in some countries, you can't conduct legitimate
business unless you participate in bribes. It's part of the culture.
Your employer expects performance for the wage he pays you.
Ethics is the basis upon which this type of situation would be
resolved (not whether you morally believed a culture embracing bribery
was permissible).
I'm sure that's not the best example I can give, but it's late here
and I'm about 3 beers into it....
-mpm