On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 6:08:28 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 10:16:12 PM UTC-8,
bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 4:41:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 9:10:40 PM UTC-8,
bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 3:50:36 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 6:29:03 PM UTC-8,
bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 4:14:11 AM UTC+11, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> > > > > > > bitrex <
us...@example.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 1/25/2022 6:41 PM, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Gerhard Hoffmann <
dk...@arcor.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> Am 25.01.22 um 18:40 schrieb Fred Bloggs:
> > > > > > > >>>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 12:37:34 PM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > > > > > > The only typewriter company still in business is IBM, but they never made cheap (price not quality) consumer products, so their transition was easier and possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They aren't what they were, and their activities on the standards groups that I knew about was all about protecting their market share, rather than getting better standards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I still think Texas Instruments is the model of a clever company that has always been able to adapt to the times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They've always been a crooked company, in much the same mold, always ready to shaft their customers. They have never been all that innovative.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > They've jettisoned entire lines of products, but it was always at the right time, and there was always something new to take its place.
> > > > > > Something relatively cheap and nasty ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Sloman, as usual, doesn't know what he is talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Flyguy does like to claim that. Since Flyguy doesn't know what he is talking about he makes the claim more or less non-stop.
> > > >
> > > > > A large part of TI's business is with the automotive industry. These guys are VERY astute users of semiconductors and have much tougher specs than commercial products. TI delivers those products at competitive prices and have a huge backlog of orders from them.
> > > >
> > > > Flyguy doesn't know enough about the semiconductor business to know that everybody - not just Texas instruments - always made at least three grades of devices - military, industrial and commercial - for three different temperature ranges.
> > > >
> > > >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_temperature
> > >
> > > Hey Sloman, who says that I DIDN'T know that?
> >
> > You did. You seemed to think that Texas Instruments selling into the automotive market made them uniquely special.
>
> No, that is what your DELUSIONAL MIND thought - I said NOTHING of the sort.
You don't think did. You are great at reading stuff and finding that it means exactly what would suit you, especially when it doesn't.
> > > You, as usual, jumped to conclusions (not that you can jump all that high). What you DON'T KNOW is that the automotive specifications are much more strict than the industrial, which includes FAR MORE than just temperature.
> >
> > What makes you think that? I posted a link to a website that made exactly the point about other temperature ranges, so I didn't need to spell it out.
>
> What you wrote.
What you thought I wrote, which isn't quite the same thing.
> > The temperature differences are the obvious difference - hermitic packages can survive in tougher environments than plastic packages, and we all know about that too (and have done for decades).
> >
> > > > He probably doesn't know that Texas Instruments had a nasty habit of making "industry standard parts" to their own data sheets which offered lower performance than their competitors. Back in the 1970's when I had to put together company specifications for semiconductors (mostly op amps) we had to work out whether we could live with the TI parts.
> > >
> > > Oh, what YOU know is from the 70's.
> >
> > Some of it is.
> Which isn't relevant FIFTY YEARS later.
Quite a bit of it is.
> > > Newsflash: that was FIFTY YEARS AGO! You, as usual, KNOW NOTHING!
> >
> > Flyguy doesn't seem to learn stuff as he gets older. Newsflash - most of us haven't got Flyguy's problems. There wasn't any programmable logic around in the 1970's, and a neat idea that I had back then didn't get reduced to practice until 1993, when I finally got my hands on an ICT Place PA7024 which was (just) big enough to accommodate what I'd wanted to do back then.
> >
> More delusion on the part of Sloman - this has NOTHING to do with the topic whatsoever.
Nothing that Flyguy can understand.
> Sloman's proclamations concerning TI are totally false.
I've been avoiding designing in their parts when I can for quite a while now. I installed one of Cambridge Instruments electron beam testers at TI-Nice around 1985, so I've probably been closer to one of their factories than you ever have. A few years later I got into TI Bedford to see their idea of an electron beam tester (which depended on a Mulvey lens). I asked how they dealt with the fact that Mulvey lenses run hot, and the boss of the project didn't like the answer I was given. The physicist who had given the answer moved on shortly afterwards.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney