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Jan Panteltje

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:43:42 AM11/17/09
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Hi,
just a quick message, the server here died last night at 12 o'clock.
So you cannot download from the ftp,or htttp server.
You cannot even find panteltje.com on the net now.
Almost all stuff is backuped at ftp.sunsite.unc.edu, except the PIC stuff.
I will try to get a backup online later today, depending how
big the problems are things may be ofline for weeks until
I buy a new server, or have the site hosted somewhere.
I have lots of things to do, so may not have a lot of time to fix this stuff.
But I will try tonight perhaps, looked like hardware disaster last night.
Have fun.
hehe


David L. Jones

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:40:25 PM11/17/09
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Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Hi,
> just a quick message, the server here died last night at 12 o'clock.
> So you cannot download from the ftp,or htttp server.
> You cannot even find panteltje.com on the net now.
> Almost all stuff is backuped at ftp.sunsite.unc.edu, except the PIC
> stuff.
> I will try to get a backup online later today, depending how
> big the problems are things may be ofline for weeks until
> I buy a new server, or have the site hosted somewhere.

Yikes, why run your own server when you can get a host with all the bells
and whistles for only a few dollars a months, and it's backed up for you.
Probably less than the cost of electricy to run your own 24/7 anyway.
I use www.hostmonster.com

Dave.

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John Devereux

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:21:14 AM11/19/09
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"David L. Jones" <alt...@gmail.com> writes:

> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Hi,
>> just a quick message, the server here died last night at 12 o'clock.
>> So you cannot download from the ftp,or htttp server.
>> You cannot even find panteltje.com on the net now.
>> Almost all stuff is backuped at ftp.sunsite.unc.edu, except the PIC
>> stuff.
>> I will try to get a backup online later today, depending how
>> big the problems are things may be ofline for weeks until
>> I buy a new server, or have the site hosted somewhere.
>
> Yikes, why run your own server when you can get a host with all the bells
> and whistles for only a few dollars a months, and it's backed up for you.
> Probably less than the cost of electricy to run your own 24/7 anyway.
> I use www.hostmonster.com

I seem to recall Jan was using a hacked router as a server?

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Jan Panteltje

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:01:20 AM11/19/09
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On a sunny day (Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:40:25 +1100) it happened "David L. Jones"
<alt...@gmail.com> wrote in <Fv0Nm.30342$X01....@newsfe07.iad>:

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Hi,
>> just a quick message, the server here died last night at 12 o'clock.
>> So you cannot download from the ftp,or htttp server.
>> You cannot even find panteltje.com on the net now.
>> Almost all stuff is backuped at ftp.sunsite.unc.edu, except the PIC
>> stuff.
>> I will try to get a backup online later today, depending how
>> big the problems are things may be ofline for weeks until
>> I buy a new server, or have the site hosted somewhere.
>
>Yikes, why run your own server when you can get a host with all the bells
>and whistles for only a few dollars a months, and it's backed up for you.
>Probably less than the cost of electricy to run your own 24/7 anyway.
>I use www.hostmonster.com
>
>Dave.

One word:
Control.
I would have used 'uptime' too, but with about 24 hours downtime in 5 years
maybe *just MAYBE* some company could do better.
That said, for example the Vodafone phone network is down in large parts of the country today, so YMMV.
Also the PC heats the room, helps with that, and it is only a few watts, it runs the home automation,
video editing, security cams, remote control (so I can control almost anything in the house from anywhere in the) world,
including viewing the cameras and making satellite recordings of programs or movies I want to see, set timers for that,
has my music collecton, plays background music, plays movies, and probably a few things I forgot.
So it is on 24/7, and this one is now bout 9 years old! So I should be bit forgiving when it
finally starts to have a cold or such...

Jan Panteltje

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:07:43 AM11/19/09
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On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:21:14 +0000) it happened John Devereux
<jo...@devereux.me.uk> wrote in <873a4bs...@devereux.me.uk>:

Yes, I have a Linksys wireless aaccess point as webserver from SD card too,
you can access it here on port 82, username 'guest', pssword 'none':
http://81.207.135.196:82/index1.html
But the SDcard on it has an old version of the website, anyways the backup is
now online, but I need that computer for other things too.

Jan Panteltje

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:57:30 PM11/19/09
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On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:42 GMT) it happened Jan Panteltje
<pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote in <hdtulh$f6h$1...@news.datemas.de>:

So, what happened....
The first sign that something was wrong, was when I looked in the temperature log in the morning,
it displays the outside and inside temperatures, logs every 10 minutes IIRC, and found one entry with -87 C for the inside temp...
Could it be a bit error? RAM? bad? sensor? USB? Just left things running.
The second sign something was wrong was the next day when the screen froze, Linux X windows, no mouse, no keyboard, had to power down...
OK, could have been the USB hub cable, left it on.
The third sign something was wrong was when I programmed 'spiderman2' to record from satellite,
and the program marked the recording as 100 % successful, but there was nothing on disk, no file, no error messages, nothing.
As I wrote xdipo the recording software, I know this can only happen if code sections are jumped or something like that.
So now I was sure it as the PC, and started testing if all connectors were put in correctly (12 o'clock at night).
The cable to the sat dish (SMA) was not fixed tight, so I turned it, the PC crashed....
Opened it, moved that PCI sat card a bit in the slot, tried again, I could make it crash that way, touched a memory module,
all of the sudden: DMA error on hda, system dead.
Reboot, BIOS checksum error, insert system floppy disk....
Well, that 'floppy'... had not used a floppy in years....
System disk?
It is a (very good, and expensive) Tyan motherboard.
Took an other PC (no floppy drive in that either) and went to the Tyan site,
could not find anything related to this motherboard their, except 'to be done' or something.
Used google.
Google found the BIOS flash files on the Tyan site, but it said:
Insert your win 95 (!) or win 98 boot floppy, and run the flash75 utility blah blah...
Anyways, I found an old win98 floppy, but how to get that flash utility and BIOS image on it???
No way I could write to that floppy without running OS, a link to internet, or a link to an other PC.
So tried old dos filelink (via serial port) but for some reason I could not write to that floppy.

So this morning I went and bought one of those USB floppy drives, very neat thing, 25 Euro (www.norrod.nl).
You can just plug those in the USB of the laptop and can mount it as mass storage device in Linux.
So wrote the BIOS image and flash utility on an old floppy, and tried again to flash the BIOS as indicated on the Tyan site...
Error, error, error, error, pretty sure I got all those command line switches right...
When I bough that floppy thing I told the salesperson 'I am going to try to flash the BIOS, if it fails I will be back for a new PC...
They, norrod, have some nice small ones for 254 Euro now, dual core, cheap, had one ready...
So, anyways was about to put on my jacket to go and throw away some money, when I thought:
One last thing, I noticed that when I just started that flash program without all those command line switches that Tyan said you needed,
it asked for a BIOS image.
So I just entered that BIOS image name, and Ah! it flashed the BIOS.
Booted from DVD with Linux grub, Linux started, the backup (I was wise enough to make a backup of the whole system on the other drive) also started..
CMOS checksum error, accept default, set CMOS in BIOS setup..
OK.
But on disk 1 (hda) is an old win 98 and win XP, both are dead, both hang somewhere in boot.
So hda is messed up, but come to think of it, I only use win98 for the Canon scanner, and I have
*never* found any use for win Xp, so win 98 I can probably re-install after I reformat and repartition hda,
I dunno if Xp will let me register it again.... But that was a waste of money anyways,,,

So server is up, Linux rules, online, it was, in the end, just dirty connectors, took the whole box apart,
cleaned all connectors, humidity, in front of open window, could have been it.
And, now I have a nice USB floppy drive I will likely never use again..
hda win 98 (dead)
win Xp (dead)
hdb Linux backup
hdc DVD burner
hdd Linux
flop ??

So, do not touch memory modules when power is on... :-)

JosephKK

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:45:36 AM11/21/09
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Thanks for the story. I am trying to add (and migrate operation to) a
bigger disk in a coworkers home PC while trying to protect all the
data. Had to reinstall XP and during backing out of a erroneous
selection, it died. It acts like i had killed BIOS.

blackhead

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Nov 21, 2009, 9:21:27 AM11/21/09
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On 19 Nov, 11:01, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:40:25 +1100) it happened "David L. Jones"
> <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in <Fv0Nm.30342$X01.15...@newsfe07.iad>:

>
>
>
>
>
> >Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> just a quick message, the server here died last night at 12 o'clock.
> >> So you cannot download from the ftp,or htttp server.
> >> You cannot even find panteltje.com on the net now.
> >> Almost all stuff is backuped at ftp.sunsite.unc.edu, except the PIC
> >> stuff.
> >> I will try to get a backup online later today, depending how
> >> big the problems are things may be ofline for weeks until
> >> I buy a new server, or have the site hosted somewhere.
>
> >Yikes, why run your own server when you can get a host with all the bells
> >and whistles for only a few dollars a months, and it's backed up for you.
> >Probably less than the cost of electricy to run your own 24/7 anyway.
> >I usewww.hostmonster.com
>
> >Dave.
>
> One word:
> Control.
> I would have used 'uptime' too, but with about 24 hours downtime in 5 years
> maybe *just MAYBE* some company could do better.
> That said, for example the Vodafone phone network is down in large parts of the country today, so YMMV.
> Also the PC heats the room, helps with that, and it is only a few watts,

Do you mean the PC is only a few watts?

Just the base unit of my 12 year old AMD 300mhz used 50 watts and my
Athlon 1Ghz uses 80 watts.

it runs the home automation,
> video editing, security cams, remote control (so I can control almost anything in the house from anywhere in the) world,
> including viewing the cameras and making satellite recordings of programs or movies I want to see, set timers for that,
> has my music collecton, plays background music, plays movies, and probably a few things I forgot.
> So it is on 24/7, and this one is now bout 9 years old! So I should be  bit forgiving when it

> finally starts to have a cold or such...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Jan Panteltje

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:36:23 PM11/21/09
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On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:21:27 -0800 (PST)) it happened blackhead
<larry...@softhome.net> wrote in
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>> Also the PC heats the room, helps with that, and it is only a few watts,
>
>Do you mean the PC is only a few watts?

Few compared to the 2 kW electric heater, plus all other electric stuff hre.


>Just the base unit of my 12 year old AMD 300mhz used 50 watts and my
>Athlon 1Ghz uses 80 watts.

My second backup, the modified Linksys WAP with website on SDcard,
uses less then 6 W, it runs from a 12V 500 mA adapter.
http://81.207.135.196:82/index1.html
And then with wireless 'off' maybe about 3 W.

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