PSPICE versus Electronics Workbench
Nico
I am a lecturer and have to choose a simulation electronics software. I have
heard of PSPICE and Electronics Workbench. Are they the same thing, if not
what are the differences and which is best, in your opinion.
Thanks in advance
Nico
DJohn
simulating a circuit.
In Electronics workbench you have ready made accessories like transistor
resitor etc available in t e library and just need to place them in the
workspace. It also uses pspice as the base .
Easy to use is workbench
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Nico
Now, to add to the confusiom what is the role of Multisim in this play? Is
it the same as Electronics Workbench?
Nico
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Roger Johansson
>Now, to add to the confusiom what is the role of Multisim in this play? Is
>it the same as Electronics Workbench?
EWB changed name to multisim, and started using a new type of
programming, so multisim is known to be buggy.
It might take some versions before they get that program to work
nicely, so the customers wanted to buy the old version, version 5, I
think.
Multisim has offered to give you the old version if you buy the new
one, if you ask for it, to satisfy their customers.
At least this was the situation a few years ago.
The best advice is to try and get version 5 of EWB, and take a look at
the Swcadiii from Linear Technology, which is freeware and the best
spice simulator when it comes to simulation.
The user interface is a lot easier in EWB so that is the best for
youngsters and beginners.
You don't need to read any help files, just drag and drop things as
usual in the windows environment.
The simulation part of ewb is not as strong as a real spice simulator,
that is an opinion I have heard, it is not regarded as a real
engineers tool.
Both ewb and most other spice simulators come with libraries of the
most common components, and you can add new ones from semiconductor
manufacturers web sites.
Roger J.
FSMüller
the answer depends on wether you are interested in simulating a circuit
to get the result in as lttle time as possible or interested in showing
how simulation works. SPICE is the defacto standard in circuit modeling
and I think Electronics Workbench relies on SPICE too.
I have no experience with E. Workbench, I don´t want to say anything
against it, but I recommend getting SPICE or PSPICE (SPICE is pulic
domain) for teaching purposes.
If you want to simulate circuits without further interest in how it´s
done, get Workbench or another program that combines SPICE with a GUI.
frank
Paul Landregan
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Fred Bloggs
The "P" in PSPICE denotes that it is SPICE for "P"ersonal computers to
distinguish it from mainframe platforms. PSPICE from Cadence has been
around since the beginning, DOS, although not originally developed by
Cadence, and probably has the largest installed user base. You will find
that most available device models have a PSPICE version and that almost
all the other SPICE-type electronic simulation packages imitate the
essential features of PSPICE. The advantages of PSPICE are: readily
available device models that port directly into the installation, large
installed user base and expertise, endless amount of literature and
textbooks that cover circuit simulation using PSPICE specifically, and
this material can be either dedicated to SPICE or general circuit or
electronics theory, the de-facto development interface that all others
follow in their essential capability, and free student downloads that
are good enough. This does not mean PSPICE is good, but it does mean it
is more the mainstream.
Fred Bloggs
Paul Landregan wrote:
>
> Tina is another good cct simulator
Oh? Can you tell us about your experience with it and why it is so good?
Christopher R. Carlen
First, please limit your crossposting to a minimum of newsgroups,
particularly ones that are most directly associated with your subject.
Next, please consider a simulator which is more amenable to
cross-platform use, as well as one that is not severely crippled in demo
versions.
The LT SwitcherCAD simulator is an excellant choice, and is free with no
limitations. Another more cozy simulator is Simetrix, which has a free
demo with some limitations, but does allow saving and printing one's work.
LT and Simetrix both run reasonably well if not perfectly under Wine in
Linux, so if you are lecturing to college students, the use of these
simulators will allow the students on a tight budget who cannot afford
to waste their money on expensive operating systems like Windows, to use
the same simulator on their PC as is being used in the class.
Good day.
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Principal Laser/Optical Technologist
Sandia National Laboratories CA USA
crc...@sandia.gov
Terry Pinnell
>hello there
>I am a lecturer and have to choose a simulation electronics software. I have
>heard of PSPICE and Electronics Workbench. Are they the same thing, if not
>what are the differences and which is best, in your opinion.
You might also want to take a look at my notes and links to some 60
ECAD programs at http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/ECADList.html
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK
John Larkin
wrote:
>Ok, thanks
>Now, to add to the confusiom what is the role of Multisim in this play? Is
>it the same as Electronics Workbench?
>
>Nico
>
It used to be called EWB, and they guaranteed lifetime free updates.
So they changed the name to Multisim to screw all their existing
customers.
Consider the low-end CircuitMaker, or the free Switchercad.
John
Jim Thompson
"DJohn" <deepu...@yahoo.com>,
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Article: <ampbpf$7trfd$1...@ID-159866.news.dfncis.de>,
Entitled: "Re: PSPICE versus Electronics Workbench",
Wrote the following:
|Pspice is a hardware modelling language . You have to write code for
|simulating a circuit.
|In Electronics workbench you have ready made accessories like transistor
|resitor etc available in t e library and just need to place them in the
|workspace. It also uses pspice as the base .
|Easy to use is workbench
|
|
[snip]
Wrong. PSpice is a simulator that is linkable to schematic input
tools such as PSpice Schematics or OrCAD Capture.
So all you need to do is draw your schematic.
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>
>
> Nico wrote:
> >
> > hello there
> > I am a lecturer and have to choose a simulation electronics
software. I have
> > heard of PSPICE and Electronics Workbench. Are they the same thing,
if not
> > what are the differences and which is best, in your opinion.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Nico
>
> The "P" in PSPICE denotes that it is SPICE for "P"ersonal computers to
> distinguish it from mainframe platforms. PSPICE from Cadence has been
> around since the beginning, DOS, although not originally developed by
> Cadence, and probably has the largest installed user base.
But a I suspect that this is were looks are misleading. Yes, PSpice is
probably number one in the minds of users, and perceived to be the most
well known. However, I don't think that has the most users at all. EWB
claim 170,000 users of their products, maybe 100,000 with spice?
PSpice is the most known because it was first on the PC.
>You will find
> that most available device models have a PSPICE version and that
almost
> all the other SPICE-type electronic simulation packages imitate the
> essential features of PSPICE. The advantages of PSPICE are: readily
> available device models that port directly into the installation,
large
> installed user base and expertise, endless amount of literature and
> textbooks that cover circuit simulation using PSPICE specifically, and
> this material can be either dedicated to SPICE or general circuit or
> electronics theory, the de-facto development interface that all others
> follow in their essential capability,
As far as the GUI is concerned, I don't think that this is really true.
Spice is Spice, just what would *anyone* do in a GUI?
>and free student downloads that
> are good enough. This does not mean PSPICE is good, but it does mean
it
> is more the mainstream.
And horrendously expensive.
GUI's for the most part, have obliterated much of the need spice
instruction textbooks and such like.
I think PSpice is "not bad ". I have used and bought it (via companies)
3 times. I don't have an overall complaint against it. However, at
$5,000+, for its features, I think is simple daft, to use it. There are
so many other spices out there, not just mine, that will do the job,
essentially just as well, for a 1/10 the price. Its like many don't
think that they have a *real* guitar unless its a Gibson or a Fender.
Kevin Aylward
ke...@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.