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John Doe

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Apr 13, 2022, 11:01:38 AM4/13/22
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Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a number on a typical
scientific calculator?

Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?

Thanks.

Anthony William Sloman

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Apr 13, 2022, 11:22:05 AM4/13/22
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The one I use most frequently - a Casio fx-82MS - uses x^-1. John Doe probably doesn't know enough about mathematical notation, to realise that this is what a superscript "-1" after the x implies.

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John Doe

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Apr 13, 2022, 11:49:56 AM4/13/22
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I wonder if there is a psychoanalytical name for people who cannot speak
to others without insulting them at the same time. With some people, like
Bozo, it's obtuse...

Martin Brown

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Apr 13, 2022, 12:09:18 PM4/13/22
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On 13/04/2022 16:01, John Doe wrote:
> Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a number on a typical
> scientific calculator?

Usually. On mine "1/x" is next to sin, cos, tan.

InverseTrig "1/x" is cuberoot!
>
> Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?

divide = =

Will get you a functional equivalent for a single number.


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Martin Brown

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com

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Apr 13, 2022, 12:34:47 PM4/13/22
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My first calc was an HP35 ($400 at the time, the cost of a Honda S90
motorcycle) so I'm a RPN slave. I buy old 32S2's now.

I need a good HP emulator for my Samsung phone. Any recommendations?



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Anthony William Sloman

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Apr 13, 2022, 12:59:57 PM4/13/22
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On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 1:49:56 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 1:01:38 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> >> Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a number on a typical
> >> scientific calculator?
> >>
> >> Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?
> >
> > The one I use most frequently - a Casio fx-82MS - uses x^-1. John Doe probably doesn't know enough about mathematical notation, to realise that this is what a superscript "-1" after the x implies.
>
> I wonder if there is a psychoanalytical name for people who cannot speak to others without insulting them at the same time. With some people, like Bill, it's obtuse...

I can speak politely to people, and frequently do. John Doe doesn't deserve politeness, and I do take the trouble to make sure that all of my responses to any of his posts do convey my disapproval of his nasty habits. "Blunt" would be closer to the mark than "obtuse". The psychoanalytical name for this kind of behavior is "sane".

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Jan Panteltje

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Apr 13, 2022, 1:06:10 PM4/13/22
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On a sunny day (Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:01:31 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
<alway...@message.header> wrote in <t36oka$9pm$3...@dont-email.me>:
On my Casio fx-82TL
x-1

or
enter number
type =
then type 1/Ans (Ans is a key)

Amazing, had not used that calicalucilator for years..
miracle the battery still works
All screwed closed, no idea what I put in there,
see on the screws I had it open...
Curiosity awakened, opened it
Panasonic alkaline battery, still at 1.35 V :-)
Casio makes some good stuff, have a radio watch from them too

But you cannot cut and paste from a calculator
so I use wcalc in Linux:
~ # wcalc
Enter an expression to evaluate, q to quit, or ? for help:
-> x=100
x = 100
-> x^-1
= 0.01

John Doe

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Apr 13, 2022, 1:42:29 PM4/13/22
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Bozo's posts speak for themselves...


Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an
attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

"the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo paraphrased)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bill Sloman)

Bertrand Sindri

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Apr 13, 2022, 2:35:19 PM4/13/22
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jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> I need a good HP emulator for my Samsung phone. Any recommendations?

This one is quite good:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.efalk.rpncalc&gl=US

John Larkin

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Apr 13, 2022, 2:56:41 PM4/13/22
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Looks nice. I'll try it. Thanks.

It sort of looks like an old HP9100 desktop, the daddy of the HP35.

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but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Apr 13, 2022, 3:09:13 PM4/13/22
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John Dope <alway...@message.header> wrote in
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Enter 1 then divide then the number then equals.

Otherwise, single key IS the "1/x" key.
You really are getting senile.

Gerhard Hoffmann

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Apr 13, 2022, 3:16:18 PM4/13/22
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Am 13.04.22 um 18:34 schrieb jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:

>
> I need a good HP emulator for my Samsung phone. Any recommendations?

I use Go41C now. In the Android store.

The cell phone with the app open looks like a glowing
HP41 in the dark. It gave a surreal impression to the
man who supervised my diploma thesis. We still meet
from time to time in a local pub. He was an early
adoptor. He is 85++ now. The numbers start to be
discomforting.

And on Windows: Warren Furlow's HP-41CX, or is it V41 officially? Perfect.

I bought my HP-35 when I was still at school. The father of
a classmate who worked for Brown, Boverie & Comp ordered them
for us. At this time, HP had not yet an end customer operation.
It was still in the HP test equipment section.
I still have it, as well as my HP-41C. They both would probably
work with new batteries.


Cheers, Gerhard

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Apr 13, 2022, 3:26:46 PM4/13/22
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jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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You can get one for your PC too.

You can even DL an Enigma machine and send coded messages between
two parties.

But for android... straight from the Hprse's mouth...

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hp.hp15c15
&hl=en_US&gl=US>

Bertrand Sindri

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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> John Dope <alway...@message.header> wrote in
> news:t36oka$9pm$3...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a number
>> on a typical scientific calculator?
>>
>> Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?
>
> Enter 1 then divide then the number then equals.
>
> Otherwise, single key IS the "1/x" key.
> You really are getting senile.

Unless one is using an HP RPN calculator, then the keystrokes are:

1 [enter] number [divide]

John Larkin

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Apr 13, 2022, 4:26:21 PM4/13/22
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Most have a 1/x key.

What resistor to put across 1K to get 400 ohms?

400
1/x
1000
1/x
-
1/x

Jeroen Belleman

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Apr 13, 2022, 4:34:37 PM4/13/22
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I have an HP11C and several HP32S calculators and they have
the reciprocal "1/x" key.

I hardly use them anymore though. These days, I most often
use something that resembles Unix's "dc" calculator, but
better adapted to scientific/engineering work, and which I
wrote myself. Its unique (I believe) feature is that it
can understand and print numbers with metric prefixes. So,
say, 1.2e-7 is the same as 120n.

Jeroen Belleman

Cydrome Leader

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Apr 13, 2022, 5:14:26 PM4/13/22
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jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:09:10 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On 13/04/2022 16:01, John Doe wrote:
>>> Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a number on a typical
>>> scientific calculator?
>>
>>Usually. On mine "1/x" is next to sin, cos, tan.
>>
>>InverseTrig "1/x" is cuberoot!
>>>
>>> Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?
>>
>>divide = =
>>
>>Will get you a functional equivalent for a single number.
>
> My first calc was an HP35 ($400 at the time, the cost of a Honda S90
> motorcycle) so I'm a RPN slave. I buy old 32S2's now.

I use a new 35s. RPN really is cool, and prevents people from borrowing
your calculator.

> I need a good HP emulator for my Samsung phone. Any recommendations?

I can't put my finger on why, but the samsung calculator is annoying.

John Doe

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Apr 13, 2022, 7:06:08 PM4/13/22
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John Larkin wrote:

> Most have a 1/x key.

Not on normal (scientific) calculators.

Bertrand Sindri

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John Doe

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Apr 13, 2022, 8:52:49 PM4/13/22
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At least 90% of calculator apps on Google Play do not use "1/x", instead
they use "X-1".

This nym-shifting troll, never before posted to this group under its
current ID, points to Wikishit (for some strange reason) and mostly
Hewlett-Packard calculators, after I said "normal calculators".
Everybody knows HP calculators have never been considered NORMAL.

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Edward Hernandez

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Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
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Edward H. <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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Edward Hernandez

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Bertrand Sindri

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In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
> At least 90% of calculator apps on Google Play do not use "1/x", instead
> they use "X-1".

And why are 'apps' relevant. Up until this post, you mentioned:

"normal (scientific) calculators"
"a typical scientific calculator"

Neither of which relate to calculator apps on google play.

> points to Wikishit (for some strange reason)

Because they have lots of images that are publicly available.

> and mostly Hewlett-Packard calculators,

Three HP calculators out of five total is hardly "mostly". But in any
case, there were photos of a TI and a photo of a Casio calculator
referenced, both of which have 1/x as the label for reciprocal.

> after I said "normal calculators".

Which to everyone sane means: "calculators" not "apps on google play".

> Everybody knows HP calculators have never been considered NORMAL.

HP calculators are just as normal as TI or Casio calculators. Do not
confuse less common or expensive with normal, they do not mean what you
think they mean.


DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Bertrand Sindri <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:t3788u$vv3$1
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Yet another instance of NOT a "single key".

boB

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:34:36 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
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I use Droid48 Same as an HP48 and I think it actually uses the HP48
software emulated in the Android. So the math is (or should be) as
good.

either way, it is VERY good.

I also carry an HP15C in my bag of tricks.
boB



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Bullshit troll...

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John Doe

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Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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On 13/04/2022 17:34, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:09:10 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 13/04/2022 16:01, John Doe wrote:
>>> Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a number on a typical
>>> scientific calculator?
>>
>> Usually. On mine "1/x" is next to sin, cos, tan.
>>
>> InverseTrig "1/x" is cuberoot!
>>>
>>> Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?
>>
>> divide = =
>>
>> Will get you a functional equivalent for a single number.
>
> My first calc was an HP35 ($400 at the time, the cost of a Honda S90
> motorcycle) so I'm a RPN slave. I buy old 32S2's now.

The first calculator I ran into belonged to a rich school friend and was
also that HP35. I could make it work a lot better than him, but at
school I could get away with mental arithmetic and pretending to have
used a slide rule (writing SR in the margin to be allowed 3 sig fig).

I finally had to give in and get a calculator for the crystalline
materials course in the first year at university- answers to 6 sig fig.
I had a TI SR-51A it survived very well before eventually wearing out.
>
> I need a good HP emulator for my Samsung phone. Any recommendations?

Dunno which is the best HP one. I found a nice SR59 emulator for mine.


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Ricky

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You have the kestrokes mixed up. It would be 1, then Enter, the number, then divide "/".

What sort of crazy calculator are you using?

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:41:26 +0100, Martin Brown
I still like the HP35 in real life. The keys have a wondeful detent
feel, and the layout is simple and logical. I have several, but most
have gone flakey and of course the batteries are long dead.

Tulane was never a very progressive university (but a first-rank party
school.) Calculators were not allowed on tests because they would give
an unfair advantage to rich kids.

I did full-hull dynamic simulation of a 32,000 horsepower LASH ship on
an HP9100 desktop calculator, the first programmable RPN and
predecessor to the HP35. That got us some business.

The 9100 had no ICs; just transistors and a CRT display.



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Ricky

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I haven't used an actual calculator in decades. I have Excalibur on the laptop and if I need anything more than that I use Forth. I don't have much need to crunch numbers that I can't do in my head.

Are there any calculators that understand the data types, like volts, amps, ohms, etc. and apply the appropriate equation? That would be a very handy tool. No more looking up equations. Hmmm... that might be a fun project.

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

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google search. If you put something like 10volt/5ohm into google search it'll return 2 amperes

Anthony William Sloman

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On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:08:50 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Bullshit troll...
> Bertrand Sindri <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
> >> At least 90% of calculator apps on Google Play do not use "1/x", instead
> >> they use "X-1".
> >
> > And why are 'apps' relevant. Up until this post, you mentioned:
> >
> > "normal (scientific) calculators"
> > "a typical scientific calculator"
> >
> > Neither of which relate to calculator apps on google play.
> >
> >> points to Wikishit (for some strange reason)
> >
> > Because they have lots of images that are publicly available.
> >
> >> and mostly Hewlett-Packard calculators,
> >
> > Three HP calculators out of five total is hardly "mostly". But in any
> > case, there were photos of a TI and a photo of a Casio calculator
> > referenced, both of which have 1/x as the label for reciprocal.
> >
> >> after I said "normal calculators".
> >
> > Which to everyone sane means: "calculators" not "apps on google play".
> >
> >> Everybody knows HP calculators have never been considered NORMAL.
> >
> > HP calculators are just as normal as TI or Casio calculators. Do not
> > confuse less common or expensive with normal, they do not mean what you
> > think they mean.
>
> Bullshit troll...

John Doe doesn't like being corrected - which is unfortunate, since his posts need a lot of correction - and he reacts in a childish and intemperate way.

He gets called a troll quite frequently (and accurately) so he think that the description is a term of abuse which he can throw back at the people who correct his unfortunate errors. It is one more of his unfortunate errors.

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Arie de Muijnck

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Ricky

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For some things. Other things it simply doesn't understand. It also requires an Internet connection. Heck, many apps on my phone require an Internet connection to show me information that was already pulled up, like Gmail. I can have it open to an email, minimize it. Then when I pull my phone out it won't display because it is trying to download it again and there's no connection. Stupid cell phone apps.

Oh, yeah. There's also the ads. Try calculating the energy in a 1 uF cap at 10V. You will get lots of advertisements for 1 uF, 10V capacitors. Or if you phrase it correctly, lots of links to calculators.

Google is great, right up to the point where you really need it, and it craps out.

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John Doe

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The Australian troll has a very difficult time communicating in any
normal way with others.


Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an
attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

"the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo lying)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bozo being weird)

John Doe

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Eddie's spam replies are getting longer and longer...

> Doe "troll format" postings.

The main reason for that is to keep track of nym-shifting trolls.
Nym-shifting is, or was, a common tactic of trolls. Trolls love the
charade. I love the mystery.

If it weren't for my "troll format postings", Eddie would be nym-shifting.

One user, one ID. Too bad Google doesn't allow such record-keeping (like
on Google Groups and YouTube). Helps hide their own misdeeds.

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6ac330ed-6bcf-42f8...@googlegroups.com:

> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 3:09:13 PM UTC-4,
> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>> John Dope <alway...@message.header> wrote in
>> news:t36oka$9pm$3...@dont-email.me:
>> > Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a
>> > number on a typical scientific calculator?
>> >
>> > Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> Enter 1 then divide then the number then equals.
>>
>> Otherwise, single key IS the "1/x" key.
>> You really are getting senile.
>
> You have the kestrokes mixed up. It would be 1, then Enter, the
> number, then divide "/".
>
> What sort of crazy calculator are you using?

Nope Multi-register (mantissa) calculators are real in hardware and
software. In Windows, one simply enters the number then hits the
SINGLE 1/x key and the result appears.

What sort of crazy thinks you are better than everyone else are you
using?

Bertrand Sindri

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John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
> If it weren't for my "troll format postings", Eddie would be nym-shifting.

How do you reach the conclusion that your "troll format postings" are
the reason why anyone, Edward included, is not nym-shifting?

John Doe

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It's simple logic. If you expose nym-shifting, it's less likely to
continue. The OBVIOUS reason behind nym-shifting is to hide one's persona.
And I have observed a radical decrease in nym-shifting over a long period
of time. They love(d) the masquerade. I love(d) the mystery.

This nym-shifting troll, who never before posted to this group until this
thread, snipped the relevant portion of my post in order to make its
flimsy assertion.

This guy's name is mentioned in the "Operations Manuals" spam. Has posted
to (sci.electronics.repair). Probably coincidence. Only The Shadow knows...


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Edward Hernandez

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:47:24 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t39toc$3tr$2...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.1% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1017 articles to USENET. Of which 123 have been pure insults and
458 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

Hu5VszhJ7KSF

John Doe

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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

> In Windows, one simply enters the number then hits the
> SINGLE 1/x key and the result appears.

True, but not common in Android.

A smartphone is an excellent platform for a calculator. Unlike chess or a
first-person shooter, it isn't heavy on CPU usage but takes advantage of the
phone's CPU for calculations. The whole screen is a calculator.

John Doe

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Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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Edward Hernandez

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:53:42 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t39u46$3tr$4...@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.2% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1020 articles to USENET. Of which 123 have been pure insults and
460 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

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Bertrand Sindri

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In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
> It's simple logic. If you expose nym-shifting, it's less likely to
> continue.

The logic does not follow from what little evidence/argument you have
presented.

> The OBVIOUS reason behind nym-shifting is to hide one's persona.

Therefore, those posters who wish to hide their persona by nym-shifting
will continue to wish to hide their persona and so will not care that
you are 'exposing' them. There persona is still hidden, so their
reason for nym-shifting remains in place.

> And I have observed a radical decrease in nym-shifting over a long
> period of time. They love(d) the masquerade. I love(d) the mystery.

Coorelation is not causation. Your "observed radical decrease" could
just as easily be explained by the gradual reduction in use of USENET
with the resulting few remaining members simply not being the ones that
nym-shifted (i.e., the nym-shifting trolls abandoned USENET for Reddit
or other web locales). And in fact, a reduction in nym-shifting being
caused by a substantial reduction in USENET usage is much more likely
the cause than anything you did, or did not, do yourself.

> This nym-shifting troll, who never before posted to this group until this
> thread, snipped the relevant portion of my post in order to make its
> flimsy assertion.

Please explain what other part of your post was relevant to your
assertion.

John Doe

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Arguing with a chronic liar is pointless. When you refute its lies, it
simply makes up more lies to cover those prior lies. It's fiction never
ends...

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> Subject: Re: OT: Calculators: Where is the reciprocal key?
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John Doe

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:24:51 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t3a3f2$qro$1...@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.2% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1022 articles to USENET. Of which 123 have been pure insults and
462 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

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John Doe

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Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <alway...@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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Edward Hernandez

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:55:47 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t3a8pi$v6c$1...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1024 articles to USENET. Of which 123 have been pure insults and
464 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

GZjSBMhYfhwN

Ricky

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Sorry? Can you say that again in English?

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Anthony William Sloman

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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 5:47:30 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Bertrand Sindri <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
> >>
> >> If it weren't for my "troll format postings", Eddie would be nym-shifting.
> >
> > How do you reach the conclusion that your "troll format postings" are
> > the reason why anyone, Edward included, is not nym-shifting?
>
>It's simple logic. If you expose nym-shifting, it's less likely to
continue. The OBVIOUS reason behind nym-shifting is to hide one's persona.
And I have observed a radical decrease in nym-shifting over a long period
of time. They love(d) the masquerade. I love(d) the mystery.

The "simple logic" depends on John Doe's assertion that there's nym-shifting going on.

He seems to understand this when he's being rude to Edward Hernandez, where he has been known to list other pseudonyms which he claims that that poster has used.

He hasn't bothered to list any other pseudonym for Bertrand Sindri, so here John Doe is just making up one more of his idiot assertions.

Actual nym-shifters may "love the masquerade" though most of them seem to get kicked out by their information providers and have to register with a new information provider under a different name to resume posting. The "hiding of the persona" is incidental. John Doe's "love of the mystery" involved seems to reflect his enthusiasm or finding implausible explanations for stuff he doesn't actually understand. It may be his hobby, but nobody wants to know about the stupid stories he dreams up up in the process.

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Anthony William Sloman

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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:24:58 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Bertrand Sindri <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Arguing with a chronic liar is pointless.

As John Doe illustrates time and time again.

> When you refute its lies, it simply makes up more lies to cover those prior lies. It's fiction never end...

John Doe has never refuted any lie here. He has claimed that any number of factually correct statements are lies - which lying about them, rather than refuting them.
Granting that he's an obviously deluded idiot, he may think that he is "refuting lies" rather than denying that he's wrong, but he is still a liar, even if he too dim to realise it.

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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:d9f367bc-5209-
47ee-8e7c-a...@googlegroups.com:

>> What sort of crazy thinks you are better than everyone else are you
>> using?
>
> Sorry? Can you say that again in English?

You're a fucking idiot.

What sort of "crazy (asswipe) that thinks you are better than
everyone else" are you using.

There, fucktard. I didn't realize that you can spout retarded stupid
shit, but cannot grasp when the same retarded phrase you use is used to
point out that you ain't all that. Damn you're stupid, boy.

English enough for you, twerp? CCAD, dipshit.

Bertrand Sindri

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Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:24:58 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
>> Bertrand Sindri <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
>> >> And I have observed a radical decrease in nym-shifting over a
>> >> long period of time. They love(d) the masquerade. I love(d) the
>> >> mystery.
>> >
>> > Coorelation is not causation. Your "observed radical decrease"
>> > could just as easily be explained by the gradual reduction in use
>> > of USENET with the resulting few remaining members simply not
>> > being the ones that nym-shifted (i.e., the nym-shifting trolls
>> > abandoned USENET for Reddit or other web locales). And in fact, a
>> > reduction in nym-shifting being caused by a substantial reduction
>> > in USENET usage is much more likely the cause than anything you
>> > did, or did not, do yourself.
>> >
>
>>When you refute its lies, it simply makes up more lies to cover those
>>prior lies. It's fiction never end...
>
> John Doe has never refuted any lie here. He has claimed that any
> number of factually correct statements are lies - which lying about
> them, rather than refuting them. Granting that he's an obviously
> deluded idiot, he may think that he is "refuting lies" rather than
> denying that he's wrong, but he is still a liar, even if he too dim
> to realise it.

And he seems to retreat to name calling anytime he is cornered and has
no way out, such as the above. It is quite conceited of him to assert
that his 'exposing' nym-shifting is somehow singularly responsible for
his supposed observation of a reduction in the same. If anything, his
observation is more likely confirmation bias than anything. He started
expending effort in 'exposing nym-shifting'. As a result, in order to
not feel he was wasting his time, his sub-conscious believed it also
witnessed a reduction in nym-shifting. Actual reality is his one
person jihad on 'nym-shifting' likely had zero impact on anything, and
when presented with a logical argument to that effect, he immediately
retreats to name calling to avoid believing that he has been needlessly
expending effort for naught over all this time.

corvid

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The netcop wannabe is also a nym-shifting troll, banned by Google.

OT: Easiest way to make new anonymous YouTube accounts?
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Crrdplt%249r9%241%40dont-email.me%3E

John Larkin

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 20:28:59 -0000 (UTC), Bertrand Sindri
<bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
>> It's simple logic. If you expose nym-shifting, it's less likely to
>> continue.
>
>The logic does not follow from what little evidence/argument you have
>presented.

Really, there is an infinite supply of these nymby old hens who are
only here to cluck and pollute an electronic design group.

Ignore them!

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

Phil Hobbs

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Cydrome Leader wrote:
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:09:10 +0100, Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/04/2022 16:01, John Doe wrote:
>>>> Is there a single key calculation for the reciprocal of a number on a typical
>>>> scientific calculator?
>>>
>>> Usually. On mine "1/x" is next to sin, cos, tan.
>>>
>>> InverseTrig "1/x" is cuberoot!
>>>>
>>>> Is there some symbol besides "1/x" to look for?
>>>
>>> divide = =
>>>
>>> Will get you a functional equivalent for a single number.
>>
>> My first calc was an HP35 ($400 at the time, the cost of a Honda S90
>> motorcycle) so I'm a RPN slave. I buy old 32S2's now.
>
> I use a new 35s. RPN really is cool, and prevents people from borrowing
> your calculator.
>
>> I need a good HP emulator for my Samsung phone. Any recommendations?
>
> I can't put my finger on why, but the samsung calculator is annoying.
>
I just keep buying HP41s of various flavours. I'm on my third since
1979, not bad.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who wrote a lot of calculator code between 1976 and about 1983.)

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

Ricky

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Why does anyone care? Bill has some disorder that means a primary form of entertainment for him is to argue with some of the stupidest people in this group on the Internet. His posts are seldom interesting, and are typically personal attacks on people who not only deserve such attacks (if anyone cares enough to make them), but seem to relish such attacks, since they provide an opportunity to show their intellect by responding with the Internet equivalent of "Oh, yeah?" Not much of a conversation usually.

John Doe has been the same twit as he presently is, for some time now. Once in a great while he posts something worth reading. The only value I get from his posts are when he shows how irritated he gets from Edward's bot posts in response to his one silly top posting that would seem to be what he considers a personal insult, a show of lack of respect, somehow. An inside joke with himself, perhaps?

So, why do you care about the conversation of the absurd between these two?

--

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Ricky

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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 20:28:59 -0000 (UTC), Bertrand Sindri
> <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
> >> It's simple logic. If you expose nym-shifting, it's less likely to
> >> continue.
> >
> >The logic does not follow from what little evidence/argument you have
> >presented.
> Really, there is an infinite supply of these nymby old hens who are
> only here to cluck and pollute an electronic design group.

Many of us do ignore you, but you keep clucking away anyhow.

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John Doe

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I have never nym-shifted on USENET, or anywhere else to hide my persona,
but only to circumvent CENSORSHIP.

Here I'm being bashed by a nym-shifting stalker troll, for a post I made
to a DIFFERENT group...

see also...
=?UTF-8?Q?C=c3=b6rvid?= <b...@ckbirds.org>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <ni...@cows.moo>
Banders <sn...@mailchute.com>
Covid-19 <alway...@message.header>
corvid <b...@ckb.ird>
Corvid <b...@ckbirds.net>
Corvid <b...@ckbirds.org>
Cows Are Nice <co...@nice.moo>
Cows are nice <m...@cows.org>
Cows are Nice <ni...@cows.moo>
dogs <do...@home.com>
Great Pumpkin <pum...@patch.net>
Jose Curvo <jcu...@mymail.com>
Local Favorite <how2r...@palomar.info>
Sea <fres...@coast.org>
Standard Poodle <stan...@poodle.com>
triangles <bu...@home.com>
and others...

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> From: corvid <b...@ckb.ird>
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
> Subject: Re: OT: Calculators: Where is the reciprocal key?
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John Doe

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John Doe

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Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Doe has been the same twit as he presently is, for some time now.
> Once in a great while he posts something worth reading. The only value
> I get from his posts are when he shows how irritated he gets from
> Edward's bot posts

You might enjoy the disruption, but in fact it does not bother me either
way. The fact he puts no thought into his replies, or rather into whether
he replies (or not), makes coping with him easy.

I don't like the disruption, but I am not responsible for anybody else's
speech on USENET.

John Doe

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It certainly is pointless.

But you can ignore any thread branch...

Edward Hernandez

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 16 Apr 2022 04:52:26 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t3di2a$59t$1...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.1% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1032 articles to USENET. Of which 123 have been pure insults and
466 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

NVEtJrDaBwrF

John Doe

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Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <alway...@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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> From: Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: Calculators: Where is the reciprocal key?
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ils6K.1066990$5u1.6...@usenetxs.com:


DUDE! STOP FOLLOWING DOE'S POSTS AND THEN POSTING BEHIND THEM.
THAT IS THE NOST RETARDED BEHAVIOR THERE IS.

You are like Putin. STOP PILING YOUR RETARDED SHIT POSTS INTO OUR
GROUP, YOU RETARDED SHIT STUPID FUCK!!!

John Doe

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 16 Apr 2022 05:22:47 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t3djr7$59t$7...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.1% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1035 articles to USENET. Of which 123 have been pure insults and
468 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

K6tHo3yDW7R7

g_wolf

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On 4/13/2022 8:21 PM, Bertrand Sindri wrote:
> In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
>> At least 90% of calculator apps on Google Play do not use "1/x", instead
>> they use "X-1".
>
> And why are 'apps' relevant. Up until this post, you mentioned:
>
> "normal (scientific) calculators"
> "a typical scientific calculator"
>
> Neither of which relate to calculator apps on google play.
>
>> points to Wikishit (for some strange reason)
>
> Because they have lots of images that are publicly available.
>
>> and mostly Hewlett-Packard calculators,
>
> Three HP calculators out of five total is hardly "mostly". But in any
> case, there were photos of a TI and a photo of a Casio calculator
> referenced, both of which have 1/x as the label for reciprocal.
>
>> after I said "normal calculators".
>
> Which to everyone sane means: "calculators" not "apps on google play".
>
>> Everybody knows HP calculators have never been considered NORMAL.
>
> HP calculators are just as normal as TI or Casio calculators. Do not
> confuse less common or expensive with normal, they do not mean what you
> think they mean.
>
>

Love RPN . Can't stand the =

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com

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Parenthesis are even worse.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

Anthony William Sloman

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On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 12:52:40 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 06:28:14 -0500, g_wolf <g_w...@howl.com> wrote:
> >On 4/13/2022 8:21 PM, Bertrand Sindri wrote:
> >> In sci.electronics.design John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:

<snip>

> >> HP calculators are just as normal as TI or Casio calculators. Do not
> >> confuse less common or expensive with normal, they do not mean what you
> >> think they mean.
> >
> >Love RPN . Can't stand the =
>
> Parenthesis are even worse.

He probably meant "parentheses"

https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/parentheses.html

Less pretentious people call them brackets (which is easier to spell).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket

It is an unambiguous - but messy - way of ordering mathematical operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation

is more elegant, but rather less obvious. There's a reason that it didn't get invented until 1924.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Edward Hernandez

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Use the newsreader Luke:

User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25

http://usenethelp.codeccorner.com/XNews_Primer.html#filters

XNews has several predefined filters you can apply. They are:

The "Plonk" or "Kill" filter.

Highlight an offending poster, and hit "k". XNews will killfile
all posts from this poster, in all groups. Use with caution; if
you plonk someone by accident, you can remove them from the
killfile by [CTRL-K] or the menu-bar commands "Special" "View Plonk
File".

And you'll never again see one of my posts.

corvid

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Apr 16, 2022, 2:47:48 PM4/16/22
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4/15/22, 21:52, alt-right QAnon screwball John Doe writes:
> I have never nym-shifted on USENET, or anywhere else to hide my
> persona,

List the nyms you've used here, previous to "John Doe". Go ahead.

> but only to circumvent CENSORSHIP.

"I just want to comment under videos" and your sig "but posting under
YouTube videos is fun" tells what you're really there for.

http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Crrdplt%249r9%241%40dont-email.me%3E

Cursitor Doom

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:49:49 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<alway...@message.header> wrote:

>I wonder if there is a psychoanalytical name for people who cannot speak
>to others without insulting them at the same time. With some people, like
>Bozo, it's obtuse...

KF 'im, then.
What I find annoying about the newer sci calculators is they seem to
give the answers to everything as fractions by default. No idea if
there's a setting one can change to deal with that. I have to press a
button labelled (S<>D) to get the format I prefer. So whereas with my
30+ year old Casio I got a reciprocal from just a single key press of
(1/x) I now have to press three different keys to get the answer:
(x^-1), (=) and (S<>D). And they call *that* progress.

Anthony William Sloman

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On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 6:12:02 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:49:49 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> <alway...@message.header> wrote:
>
> >I wonder if there is a psychoanalytical name for people who cannot speak
> >to others without insulting them at the same time. With some people, like
> >Bozo, it's obtuse...

Actually, it is blunt.When one feels the need to speak to creatures like Cursitor Doom and John Doe, it's pretty much a given that they will feel that what needs to be said is insulting to them.

What they won't notice is that they deserve the insults. If they ever managed to say something praiseworthy, we'd all be very surprised, and they might get a more positive reception.

> KF 'im, then.

Or kill file yourself.

> What I find annoying about the newer sci. calculators is they seem to give the answers to everything as fractions by default.

Which newer calculators? Aimed at which specific audience? Primary school kids learn about proper fractions before they learn about decimal fractions.

You'd think that a scientific calculator which could handle sines, cosines and tangents, as well as hyperbolic sines, cosines and tangents would be aimed at an older age group, but Coursitor Doom's grasp of what science might mean isn't impressive. Getting his atmospheric CO2 levels out of publications from the 1890's didn't indicate much of grasp of what was being reported.

> No idea if there's a setting one can change to deal with that. I have to press a button labelled (S<>D) to get the format I prefer. So whereas with my
30+ year old Casio I got a reciprocal from just a single key press of (1/x) I now have to press three different keys to get the answer: (x^-1), (=) and (S<>D). And they call *that* progress.

You had an option of buying a calculator that suited you less well than the one you had, and you took it. If you'd looked a bit harder at the complete range on offer, rather than snapping up what your local newsagent offered, you might have got something closer to what you wanted, but the progress you are so unhappy about let you buy something almost good enough in a local shop for very little money, with no thought at all.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

John Doe

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Bozo the Clown.

Anthony William Sloman

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On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:26:44 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Bozo the Clown.

<snipped the rest of the vain repetition>

John Doe's attempts to reason with me aren't all that well thought out.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Apr 17, 2022, 11:33:59 AM4/17/22
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Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:t3eurt$pcp$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>> Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:ils6K.1066990$5u1.6...@usenetxs.com:
>>
>>
>> DUDE! STOP FOLLOWING DOE'S POSTS AND THEN POSTING BEHIND THEM.
>> THAT IS THE NOST RETARDED BEHAVIOR THERE IS.
>>
>> You are like Putin. STOP PILING YOUR RETARDED SHIT POSTS INTO
>> OUR
>> GROUP, YOU RETARDED SHIT STUPID FUCK!!!
>
> Use the newsreader Luke:

STOP POSTING YOUR STUPID SHIT, YOU RETARDED PUKE!
>

> And you'll never again see one of my posts.
>
>
Except, you retarded dumbfuck, the mechanism that makes that happen
should be YOU DISCONTINUING TO POST IN OUR GROUP which you do NOT
participate in. Not me filtering your utter stupidity.

So,the phrase of the day, you puke fuck, is get the fuck out and
stay the fuck out, and stop clutering our group with your inane,
retarded baby bullshit "call out" posts. You are even more stupid
than the DOPE you are "calling out". Consider this to be YOU being
called out to GROW THE FUCK UP. Damn! Retarded little "gamer"
fucktards like you deserve a fucking basesball bat upside the head at
90MPH.

Ricky

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Apr 17, 2022, 1:52:34 PM4/17/22
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You are just so funny. John Doe is a troll, polluting the group. Edward has a bot replying to JD's posts that are top posted (which I find amusing, especially when the idiot JD responds to them). Then out of the Aether comes you, raging about a bot replying to an idiot, claiming they are ruining the group. At this point you are contributing 33% of that pollution.

But you will never understand that, will you?

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Rick C.

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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Apr 17, 2022, 2:21:16 PM4/17/22
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Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b0137626-e636-4efc...@googlegroups.com:

> You are just so funny. John Doe is a troll, polluting the group.
> Edward has a bot replying to JD's posts that are top posted (which
> I find amusing, especially when the idiot JD responds to them).

He responded to me personally, so is NOT a bot, and most certainly CAN
stop the stupid shit.

AND I do not need a USENET primer from you. I have been watching
many folks' stupid shit behavior for decades. I know what is taking
place. He needs to turn his retarded bot off.

I do not need you to tell me ANYTHING about Usenet.

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Apr 17, 2022, 2:22:29 PM4/17/22
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> Then out of the Aether comes you, raging about a bot replying to
> an idiot, claiming they are ruining the group. At this point
> you are contributing 33% of that pollution.
>
> But you will never understand that, will you?

Nope. maybe near 15%. Because you joined in and got some.

D'Oh! Decideedly it is you failing to understand.

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:b0137626-e636-
4efc-a6e0-5...@googlegroups.com:

> You are just so funny.

You 're just pissed because I schooled you on how a finned air blown
heat sink works.

Edward Hernandez

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Apr 17, 2022, 3:40:49 PM4/17/22
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:b0137626-e636-4efc...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> You are just so funny. John Doe is a troll, polluting the group.
>> Edward has a bot replying to JD's posts that are top posted (which I
>> find amusing, especially when the idiot JD responds to them).
>
> I do not need you to tell me ANYTHING about Usenet.

Oh, but clearly you do need folks to teach you about Usenet, given that
you do not even know how to operate the killfile in your own
newsreader.

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org

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Apr 17, 2022, 6:10:22 PM4/17/22
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Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:t3hqfp$1k92$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
Again... WE need NOT use a killfile when it is YOU whom should
FUCKING REFRAIN from posting. And especially so if you have a
retarded reply bot running, you fucking abject idiot.

So, Oh BUT CLEARLY you are the fucking invader and you are the
jackass fucktard who needs a baseball bat slammed upside your head.

So fuck you and the whore you were shat out of, you Usenet piece of
shit. They should put your WHORE mother in prison for failing to
flush you the moment the severely ass fucked street slut shat you.

You goddamned retarded Usenet news group invading total retard!

Clearly YOU need to grow the fuck up. CCAD dumbfuck! I have been
in this group for almost 25 years now. YOU are the dumbfuck who
should simply get the fuck oput and stay the fuck out, because
clearly you have no clue about electronics. Usenet is simple, idiot.
5 year old mentality stupid fuck!

Edward Hernandez

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Apr 19, 2022, 11:27:36 AM4/19/22
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:t3hqfp$1k92$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
>>> Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:b0137626-e636-4efc...@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> You are just so funny. John Doe is a troll, polluting the group.
>>>> Edward has a bot replying to JD's posts that are top posted (which
>>>> I find amusing, especially when the idiot JD responds to them).
>>>
>>> I do not need you to tell me ANYTHING about Usenet.
>>
>> Oh, but clearly you do need folks to teach you about Usenet, given
>> that you do not even know how to operate the killfile in your own
>> newsreader.
>>

[foaming at the mouth drivel clipped]

Tsk Tsk, triggered much?

> I have been in this group for almost 25 years now.

Now I begin to understand why Troll Doe refers to you as "the group
idiot AlwaysWrong".

Twenty five years of USENET experience and yet you remain ignorant of
how USENET works. Filtering of articles you don't want to see happens
at the client (your news reader is the client) not at the source. That
is why every proper newsreader has killfile capability.

Try learning something for once, after twenty five years.

John Doe

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Apr 19, 2022, 3:47:10 PM4/19/22
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Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <alway...@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
> Subject: Re: OT: Calculators: Where is the reciprocal key?
> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:27:28 -0000 (UTC)
> Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
> Message-ID: <t3mkd0$1g0i$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
> References: <t36oka$9pm$3...@dont-email.me> <t3a3f2$qro$1...@dont-email.me> <a23d0...@googlegroups.com> 313a15h$1...@gioia.aioe.orom> <t3bqmi$p7h$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3c8qs$1r8k$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3di2a$59t$1...@dont-email.me> <ils6K.1066990$5u1.6...@usenetxs.com> <t3djs2$mos$3...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3eurt$pcp$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3hc0v$1ltr$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <b0137626-e636-4efc...@googlegroups.com> <t3hlql$1m4v$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3hqfp$1k92$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3i384$t6f$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
> Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="49170"; posting-host="HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="ab...@aioe.org";
> X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2
> Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:666826

Edward Hernandez

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Apr 19, 2022, 3:58:19 PM4/19/22
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:47:04 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t3n3jo$kst$2...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.2% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1065 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
484 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

RL41nn8JK3jI

John Doe

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Apr 19, 2022, 5:25:56 PM4/19/22
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Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE,free.spam

See also...
John Doe <alway...@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtga...@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: Edward Hernandez <dtga...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
> Subject: Re: OT: Calculators: Where is the reciprocal key?
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 19:40:41 -0000 (UTC)
> Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
> Message-ID: <t3hqfp$1k92$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
> References: <t36oka$9pm$3...@dont-email.me> <t39toc$3tr$2...@dont-email.me> <t3a06b$1hk3$3...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3a3f2$qro$1...@dont-email.me> <a23d0da4-02f1-4820...@googlegroups.com> <t3bqmi$p7h$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3c8qs$1r8k$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3di2a$59t$1...@dont-email.me> <ils6K.1066990$5u1.6...@usenetxs.com> <t3djs2$mos$3...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3eurt$pcp$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3hc0v$1ltr$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <b0137626-e636-4efc...@googlegroups.com> <t3hlql$1m4v$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
> Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="53538"; posting-host="HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="ab...@aioe.org";
> X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2
> Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:666567

John Doe

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Apr 19, 2022, 5:27:05 PM4/19/22
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 21:25:45 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t3n9cp$1u8$1...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1073 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
490 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

Z0pTM7NYEn4q

John Doe

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Apr 19, 2022, 5:55:32 PM4/19/22
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I wonder why the stalker troll Edward Hernandez deleted his porn website account.

That's a no-no, Eddie!

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John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:

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> From: John Doe <alway...@message.header>
> Subject: Re: OT: Calculators: Where is the reciprocal key?
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
> References: <t36oka$9pm$3...@dont-email.me> <t39toc$3tr$2...@dont-email.me> <t3a06b$1hk3$3...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3a3f2$qro$1...@dont-email.me> <a23d0da4-02f1-4820...@googlegroups.com> <t3bqmi$p7h$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3c8qs$1r8k$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3di2a$59t$1...@dont-email.me> <ils6K.1066990$5u1.6...@usenetxs.com> <t3djs2$mos$3...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3eurt$pcp$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3hc0v$1ltr$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <b0137626-e636-4efc...@googlegroups.com> <t3hlql$1m4v$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3hqfp$1k92$1...@gioia.aioe.org> <t3n9cp$1u8$1...@dont-email.me>
> Lines: 40
> Message-ID: <COF7K.1338020$Sxe.5...@usenetxs.com>
> X-Complaints-To: https://www.astraweb.com/aup
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 21:26:58 UTC
> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 21:26:58 GMT
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Edward Hernandez

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Apr 19, 2022, 6:06:44 PM4/19/22
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 21:55:25 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t3nb4d$g6f$1...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 57.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1077 articles to USENET. Of which 125 have been pure insults and
492 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

pkW0oxXEjFm6

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