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Flyguy
Aug 7, 2022, 8:47:59 PM8/7/22
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Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
John Larkin
Aug 7, 2022, 8:55:04 PM8/7/22
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"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
Anthony William Sloman
Aug 7, 2022, 11:54:28 PM8/7/22
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On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
>
> Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
>
> Germany did something similar. Twice.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
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Ricky
Aug 9, 2022, 9:08:12 AM8/9/22
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The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn't have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
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Ed Lee
Aug 9, 2022, 1:29:44 PM8/9/22
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On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> > > <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > >
> > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> >
> > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> >
> > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
>
> The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Don't worry about Putin/Xi faces. Send more missiles to Ukraine/Taiwan.
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> > > <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > >
> > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> >
> > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> >
> > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
>
> The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Flyguy
Aug 9, 2022, 5:56:52 PM8/9/22
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On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
Ricky
Aug 9, 2022, 7:02:44 PM8/9/22
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That's what should have happened in Ukraine, but the Russian army has aged other than gracefully it would seem. I don't think the Chinese military will have that problem. Their weapons are new, shiny and they are ready to get them dirty. I can't say how they would fare against our military, but I think it is unlikely that we will be involved directly unless attacked. We probably wouldn't even have ships in the area.
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
Aug 9, 2022, 7:42:15 PM8/9/22
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Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in news:fc28e85f-17c3-
42d9-a47f-e...@googlegroups.com:
> Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long?
Because tricky Dicky wanted 5500 more dead "hoodlums".
Oh, and he "did not want the US to lose face..." His words.
42d9-a47f-e...@googlegroups.com:
> Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long?
Oh, and he "did not want the US to lose face..." His words.
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
Aug 9, 2022, 7:51:10 PM8/9/22
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Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:eec4b64b-4720-420e...@googlegroups.com:
I can say for certain and so can the Russian military commanders...
that Chinese rubber sucks big time. You can almost watch it dry
rotting. There were a lot of Russian armored troop carriers with 6
huge chinese tires on each that had severe rubber rot problems,
causing huge numbers of field failures.
news:eec4b64b-4720-420e...@googlegroups.com:
that Chinese rubber sucks big time. You can almost watch it dry
rotting. There were a lot of Russian armored troop carriers with 6
huge chinese tires on each that had severe rubber rot problems,
causing huge numbers of field failures.
Anthony William Sloman
Aug 9, 2022, 8:35:41 PM8/9/22
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On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:56:52 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> > > > <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > > >
> > > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> > >
> > > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> > >
> > > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> > Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
> >
> > The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
> >
> > Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn't have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> > > > <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > > >
> > > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> > >
> > > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> > >
> > > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> > Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
> >
> > The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
> >
> > Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn't have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
>
> Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
The same kind as Gnatguy. Senile dementia is a bitch. Wanting a big victory when you haven't got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn't going to happen.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Flyguy
Aug 10, 2022, 10:51:38 PM8/10/22
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On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:56:52 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> > > > > <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > > > >
> > > > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > > > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> > > >
> > > > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> > > >
> > > > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> > > Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
> > >
> > > The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn't have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
> >
> > Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
> The same kind as Gnatguy. Senile dementia is a bitch.
SNIPPERMAN speaks with PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:56:52 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> > > > > <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > > > >
> > > > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > > > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> > > >
> > > > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> > > >
> > > > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> > > Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
> > >
> > > The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn't have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
> >
> > Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
> The same kind as Gnatguy. Senile dementia is a bitch.
Wanting a big victory when you haven't got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn't going to happen.
Anthony William Sloman
Aug 11, 2022, 3:18:24 AM8/11/22
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On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:56:52 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > > > > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> > > > Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
> > > >
> > > > The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn't have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
> > >
> > > Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
> > The same kind as Gnatguy. Senile dementia is a bitch.
>
> Sloman speaks with PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:56:52 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
> > > > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Germany did something similar. Twice.
> > > > > Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it's industrial output is about the same as Texas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia's stocks of weapons and conscripts.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn't achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn't paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
> > > > Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
> > > >
> > > > The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn't have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
> > >
> > > Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
> > The same kind as Gnatguy. Senile dementia is a bitch.
>
Of Gnatguy's dementia. My father's mother had it, but it didn't make her as unpleasant as Gnatguy.
> > Wanting a big victory when you haven't got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn't going to happen.
>
> See what I mean?
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Jan Panteltje
Aug 11, 2022, 5:40:57 AM8/11/22
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On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
<e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
The war in Ukrain is just a US plot to keep the Military Industrial Complex funded
suck the US taxpayers for ever more money and use NATO to sell weapons to Europe
at the same time creating poverty in Europe and suffering because of inflation
and lack of fuel and power in the coming winter,
EU is hurting its own citizens using its US CIA puppet leaders
all puppets of ByeThen and his criminal son who are puppets of the US Military Complex.
US does not win wars, it just wants to last the ones they create and participate in as long as possible ...
Vietnam, Afghanistan...
Now, with the FBI invading ex Precedent Trump's house a civil war in the US is on the horizon.
Obviously a political motivated FBI move.
Sure Trump was not strict in truth, but neither was any of the later US presidents.
Where will it go?
The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
Nuclear war is on the horizon, I can see Kiev a target
Shitlensky is attacking nuclear plants now under control of Russia,
endangering all of Europe.
So he MUST GO.
Cannot be that hard for Russia to figure out where he is at any given time and send him an explosive
message.
I would.
In Kiev? nuke it, peace now, WHAT Ukrainian government?
If US counter attacks next one is on ByeThen's residence
We are used to radiation here by now after Tjernobyl
Radiation counts were still normal this morning.
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
<e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
suck the US taxpayers for ever more money and use NATO to sell weapons to Europe
at the same time creating poverty in Europe and suffering because of inflation
and lack of fuel and power in the coming winter,
EU is hurting its own citizens using its US CIA puppet leaders
all puppets of ByeThen and his criminal son who are puppets of the US Military Complex.
US does not win wars, it just wants to last the ones they create and participate in as long as possible ...
Vietnam, Afghanistan...
Now, with the FBI invading ex Precedent Trump's house a civil war in the US is on the horizon.
Obviously a political motivated FBI move.
Sure Trump was not strict in truth, but neither was any of the later US presidents.
Where will it go?
The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
Nuclear war is on the horizon, I can see Kiev a target
Shitlensky is attacking nuclear plants now under control of Russia,
endangering all of Europe.
So he MUST GO.
Cannot be that hard for Russia to figure out where he is at any given time and send him an explosive
message.
I would.
In Kiev? nuke it, peace now, WHAT Ukrainian government?
If US counter attacks next one is on ByeThen's residence
We are used to radiation here by now after Tjernobyl
Radiation counts were still normal this morning.
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
Aug 11, 2022, 6:27:00 AM8/11/22
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:td2ir1$24usp$1...@dont-email.me:
> The war in Ukrain is just a US plot to keep the Military
> Industrial Complex funded
You are a goddamned total retard. Putin invaded Ukraine all on his
own.
You are worse than that other absolute idiot Alex Jones.
news:td2ir1$24usp$1...@dont-email.me:
> The war in Ukrain is just a US plot to keep the Military
> Industrial Complex funded
own.
You are worse than that other absolute idiot Alex Jones.
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
Aug 11, 2022, 6:31:38 AM8/11/22
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:td2ir1$24usp$1
@dont-email.me:
> EU is hurting its own citizens
You should nuke yourself, jackass.
Anthony William Sloman
Aug 11, 2022, 6:55:52 AM8/11/22
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On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:40:57 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> >>
> >> Sloman speaks with PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
> >
> >Of Gnatguy's dementia. My father's mother had it, but it didn't make her as unpleasant as Gnatguy.
> >
> >> > Wanting a big victory when you haven't got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as
> >> > intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn't going to happen.
> >>
> >> See what I mean?
> >
> >Irony. We can see what Gnatguy thinks, and he can't see that he isn't thinking all that well.
>
> The war in Ukraine is just a US plot to keep the Military Industrial Complex funded
> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> >>
> >> Sloman speaks with PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
> >
> >Of Gnatguy's dementia. My father's mother had it, but it didn't make her as unpleasant as Gnatguy.
> >
> >> > Wanting a big victory when you haven't got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as
> >> > intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn't going to happen.
> >>
> >> See what I mean?
> >
> >Irony. We can see what Gnatguy thinks, and he can't see that he isn't thinking all that well.
>
> suck the US taxpayers for ever more money and use NATO to sell weapons to Europe
> at the same time creating poverty in Europe and suffering because of inflation
> and lack of fuel and power in the coming winter.
> at the same time creating poverty in Europe and suffering because of inflation
Since Russia invaded the Ukraine, the proposition that their invasion is some kind US plot, make's Putin a catspaw of the Americans.
Even Gnatguy wouldn't be silly enough to suggest that.
> EU is hurting its own citizens using its US CIA puppet leaders all puppets of Biden and his criminal son who are puppets of the US Military Complex.
So Biden got to influence EU elections before he'd gotten elected in the US. It would have been a neat trick if he had pulled it off, but it doesn't make a plausible story.
> US does not win wars, it just wants to last the ones they create and participate in as long as possible ... Vietnam, Afghanistan...
> Now, with the FBI invading ex Precedent Trump's house a civil war in the US is on the horizon.
> Obviously a political motivated FBI move.
> Sure Trump was not strict in truth, but neither was any of the later US presidents.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2021/04/30/who-lied-more-during-their-first-100-days-biden-trump-or-obama/?sh=51300a9c1a89
> Where will it go?
> The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
> and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
>
> Nuclear war is on the horizon, I can see Kiev a target
Really? Russia attacked them to get control of them in the first place, which was rather more irresponsible.
> So he MUST GO.
By Jan Panteltje's bizarre logic.
> Cannot be that hard for Russia to figure out where he is at any given time and send him an explosive message.
> I would.
But Jan Panteltje is nuts.
> In Kiev? nuke it, peace now, WHAT Ukrainian government?
If Russia has anything left to counterattack with.
> We are used to radiation here by now after Chernobyl.
An all-out nuclear exchange would be rather different. Drop an atomic bomb on a nuclear reactor and you spread out a lot more radioactive material than Chernobly did.
> Radiation counts were still normal this morning.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Jan Panteltje
Aug 11, 2022, 8:05:35 AM8/11/22
to
On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:55:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
>On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:40:57 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
>> <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
>> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sloman speaks with PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
>> >
>> >Of Gnatguy's dementia. My father's mother had it, but it didn't make her as unpleasant as Gnatguy.
>> >
>> >> > Wanting a big victory when you haven't got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as
>> >> > intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn't going to happen.
>> >>
>> >> See what I mean?
>> >
>> >Irony. We can see what Gnatguy thinks, and he can't see that he isn't thinking all that well.
>>
>> The war in Ukraine is just a US plot to keep the Military Industrial Complex funded
>> suck the US taxpayers for ever more money and use NATO to sell weapons to Europe
>> at the same time creating poverty in Europe and suffering because of inflation
>> and lack of fuel and power in the coming winter.
>
>Since Russia invaded the Ukraine, the proposition that their invasion is some kind US plot, make's Putin a catspaw of the
>Americans.
Well, if you go back a few years in history at least *I* do remember the CIA plot to overthrow the Ukrainian government
that succeeded.
>Even Gnatguy wouldn't be silly enough to suggest that.
>
>> EU is hurting its own citizens using its US CIA puppet leaders all puppets of Biden and his criminal son who are puppets of
>> the US Military Complex.
>
>So Biden got to influence EU elections before he'd gotten elected in the US. It would have been a neat trick if he had pulled it
>off, but it doesn't make a plausible story.
NATO is an US controlled attack force, been used that way several times.
NATO is anti-commies fanatics, I know, I went there for an interview:
"Mr Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here" said the general to me.
I replied "commies are also people"
came out of my mouth just like that :-)
So I applied for - and got an other job.
No problem defending my country, but joining a bunch of brain dead commie paranoias can only lead to disaster...
Totally absurd preoccupied with hating commies NATO / US is.
>> US does not win wars, it just wants to last the ones they create and participate in as long as possible ... Vietnam,
>> Afghanistan...
>
>They did manage to get on the winning side in WW2. Since then they have been less persistent.
Germany in WW2 was mostly defeated by Russia, including grabbing Hitler.
US was mostly fighting Japan in the Pacific war.
>> Now, with the FBI invading ex Precedent Trump's house a civil war in the US is on the horizon.
>
>January 6 was the first battle in that war, and Trump started it. The raid on Mar-a-Lago might be seen as a counter-attack,
>but it's actually part of a legal investigation and nothing like war.
>
>> Obviously a political motivated FBI move.
>
>Trump's failure to understand what politics is about is what made the FBI investigation necessary. Trump isn't actually
>motivated by politics - he doesn't understand the concept - so political motivations don't come into it.
Well I think he very well understands how to play people, the masses, something politics does and is these days.
>> Sure Trump was not strict in truth, but neither was any of the later US presidents.
>
>Trump lied a lot more than any of his predecessors. or his successor Biden.
>
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2021/04/30/who-lied-more-during-their-first-100-days-biden-trump-or-obama/?sh=51300a9
>c1a89
Yea..
>> Where will it go?
>> The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
>> and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
>>
>> Nuclear war is on the horizon, I can see Kiev a target
>> Zelensky is attacking nuclear plants now under control of Russia, endangering all of Europe.
>
>Really? Russia attacked them to get control of them in the first place, which was rather more irresponsible.
>
>> So he MUST GO.
>
>By Jan Panteltje's bizarre logic.
>
>> Cannot be that hard for Russia to figure out where he is at any given time and send him an explosive message.
>
>Curious that nobody has sent one to Putin. Invading the Ukraine would seem to be more dangerously irresponsible than defendig
>the place.
>
>> I would.
>
>But Jan Panteltje is nuts.
I went to the nut-house, and left, think they made a movie of that later, "One flew over the Cuckoo's nest" or something
Poor professor that had to put up with me, he broke down and lost temper in the end when I said goodbye!
>> In Kiev? nuke it, peace now, WHAT Ukrainian government?
>> If US counter attacks next one is on Biden's residence.
>
>If Russia has anything left to counterattack with.
They have not even started using things yet.
>> We are used to radiation here by now after Chernobyl.
>
>An all-out nuclear exchange would be rather different. Drop an atomic bomb on a nuclear reactor and you spread out a lot more
>radioactive material than Chernobly did.
>
>> Radiation counts were still normal this morning.
>
>As measured by Jan's ever-so-well-designed equipment.
Yes, compared to the next to zero designs you designed, build, and showed here: I'v done it all
Nice gamma spectrometer here too, something others here only babble about
>Bill Sloman, Sydney
I'd expect hanging upside down down-under with the extra blood flowing to your head would increase brain functioning, how does that work?
Planning to go back to the Netherlands for a reset?
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
<2c42a698-2ecb-49a3...@googlegroups.com>:
>On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:40:57 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
>> <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
>> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sloman speaks with PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
>> >
>> >Of Gnatguy's dementia. My father's mother had it, but it didn't make her as unpleasant as Gnatguy.
>> >
>> >> > Wanting a big victory when you haven't got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as
>> >> > intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn't going to happen.
>> >>
>> >> See what I mean?
>> >
>> >Irony. We can see what Gnatguy thinks, and he can't see that he isn't thinking all that well.
>>
>> The war in Ukraine is just a US plot to keep the Military Industrial Complex funded
>> suck the US taxpayers for ever more money and use NATO to sell weapons to Europe
>> at the same time creating poverty in Europe and suffering because of inflation
>> and lack of fuel and power in the coming winter.
>
>Since Russia invaded the Ukraine, the proposition that their invasion is some kind US plot, make's Putin a catspaw of the
>Americans.
that succeeded.
>Even Gnatguy wouldn't be silly enough to suggest that.
>
>> EU is hurting its own citizens using its US CIA puppet leaders all puppets of Biden and his criminal son who are puppets of
>> the US Military Complex.
>
>So Biden got to influence EU elections before he'd gotten elected in the US. It would have been a neat trick if he had pulled it
>off, but it doesn't make a plausible story.
NATO is anti-commies fanatics, I know, I went there for an interview:
"Mr Panteltje you know we do not want any commies here" said the general to me.
I replied "commies are also people"
came out of my mouth just like that :-)
So I applied for - and got an other job.
No problem defending my country, but joining a bunch of brain dead commie paranoias can only lead to disaster...
Totally absurd preoccupied with hating commies NATO / US is.
>> US does not win wars, it just wants to last the ones they create and participate in as long as possible ... Vietnam,
>> Afghanistan...
>
>They did manage to get on the winning side in WW2. Since then they have been less persistent.
US was mostly fighting Japan in the Pacific war.
>> Now, with the FBI invading ex Precedent Trump's house a civil war in the US is on the horizon.
>
>January 6 was the first battle in that war, and Trump started it. The raid on Mar-a-Lago might be seen as a counter-attack,
>but it's actually part of a legal investigation and nothing like war.
>
>> Obviously a political motivated FBI move.
>
>Trump's failure to understand what politics is about is what made the FBI investigation necessary. Trump isn't actually
>motivated by politics - he doesn't understand the concept - so political motivations don't come into it.
>> Sure Trump was not strict in truth, but neither was any of the later US presidents.
>
>Trump lied a lot more than any of his predecessors. or his successor Biden.
>
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2021/04/30/who-lied-more-during-their-first-100-days-biden-trump-or-obama/?sh=51300a9
>c1a89
>> Where will it go?
>> The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
>> and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
>>
>> Nuclear war is on the horizon, I can see Kiev a target
>> Zelensky is attacking nuclear plants now under control of Russia, endangering all of Europe.
>
>Really? Russia attacked them to get control of them in the first place, which was rather more irresponsible.
>
>> So he MUST GO.
>
>By Jan Panteltje's bizarre logic.
>
>> Cannot be that hard for Russia to figure out where he is at any given time and send him an explosive message.
>
>Curious that nobody has sent one to Putin. Invading the Ukraine would seem to be more dangerously irresponsible than defendig
>the place.
>
>> I would.
>
>But Jan Panteltje is nuts.
Poor professor that had to put up with me, he broke down and lost temper in the end when I said goodbye!
>> In Kiev? nuke it, peace now, WHAT Ukrainian government?
>> If US counter attacks next one is on Biden's residence.
>
>If Russia has anything left to counterattack with.
>> We are used to radiation here by now after Chernobyl.
>
>An all-out nuclear exchange would be rather different. Drop an atomic bomb on a nuclear reactor and you spread out a lot more
>radioactive material than Chernobly did.
>
>> Radiation counts were still normal this morning.
>
>As measured by Jan's ever-so-well-designed equipment.
Nice gamma spectrometer here too, something others here only babble about
>Bill Sloman, Sydney
I'd expect hanging upside down down-under with the extra blood flowing to your head would increase brain functioning, how does that work?
Planning to go back to the Netherlands for a reset?
rbowman
Aug 11, 2022, 11:13:18 AM8/11/22
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On 08/11/2022 06:05 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> Well, if you go back a few years in history at least *I* do remember the CIA plot to overthrow the Ukrainian government
> that succeeded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
> Well, if you go back a few years in history at least *I* do remember the CIA plot to overthrow the Ukrainian government
> that succeeded.
She's baaaack...
whit3rd
Aug 11, 2022, 1:35:27 PM8/11/22
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On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:40:57 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
> and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
The people in Donbas weren't voting in a sanctioned and normal inspected election,
> The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
> and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
and the vote count happened during military surprise attack (by a small number of
nonuniformed "covert" Russian troops, mainly assaulting at government buildings).
Russian heavy weapons like the antiaircraft battery that took down Malasia
airlines MH14 were also clearly in place.
Crimea 'voted' 6 March 2014.
Putin acknowledged the troop presence afterward, in April 2014.
Internet and other communications during and after those events were
dominated by Moscow, and the 'election results' was just a Russian invention.
Jan Panteltje
Aug 11, 2022, 2:20:06 PM8/11/22
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On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:35:23 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
<whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
<a8b6ea01-f471-4446...@googlegroups.com>:
Yea and Iraq was full of weapons of mass destruction...
'merrican media
Still waiting for CNN to mention the crimes of ByeThen's son.
And
when the international court in The Hague wanted to prosecute US solders
for war crimes in Iraq Double You Bushman threatened to intervene
so nobody was sentenced.
Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
on ALL of humanity!!!!!
<whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
<a8b6ea01-f471-4446...@googlegroups.com>:
'merrican media
Still waiting for CNN to mention the crimes of ByeThen's son.
And
when the international court in The Hague wanted to prosecute US solders
for war crimes in Iraq Double You Bushman threatened to intervene
so nobody was sentenced.
Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
on ALL of humanity!!!!!
Mike Monett
Aug 11, 2022, 3:09:49 PM8/11/22
to
will have no effect on the war and Ukraine's determination to take back
their country. Anyone who wants to remain Russian can evacuate back to
Russia.
The major effect will be when Ukrain takes down the Crimea bridge. I've
been thinking of different ways to do it. One way might be to plant
explosives against the piers under water, a la Dambusters. The problem is
how to get them there, and how to to trigger them. But just blowing holes
in the road or twisting the rails won't work. The bridge has to be taken
down.
--
MRM
Mike Monett
Aug 11, 2022, 4:02:50 PM8/11/22
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There can be no topic more important than the Ukraine war. The political
and economic devastation on the planet is incalculable, and the loss of
life is a tragic waste.
For those who are interested, I have compiled a list of various sites that
discuss recent events in Ukraine. Some are better than others - I placed
the two best and most reliable at the top of the list.
The Russian Dude <- very good. My top source
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRussianDude/videos
Combat Veteran Reacts <- very good (loud)
https://www.youtube.com/c/CombatVeteranReacts/videos
Artur Rehi
https://www.youtube.com/c/arturrehi/videos
CRUX
https://www.youtube.com/c/CRUXnews/videos
Peter Ziehan Economy And Geopolitics
https://www.youtube.com/c/EconomyAndGeopolitics/videos
FRANCE 24 English - some Ukraine news
https://www.youtube.com/c/FRANCE24English/videos
Joe Blogs <- good review of economics resulting from the war
https://www.youtube.com/c/JoeBlogs/videos
Lena News
https://www.youtube.com/c/LenaNewss/videos
Newslab
https://www.youtube.com/c/Newslab0/videos
Speak The Truth <- very boring. depends on Russian News
https://www.youtube.com/c/SpeakTheTruth1/videos
Stone News
https://www.youtube.com/c/StoneNews/videos
The Sun
https://www.youtube.com/c/thesun/videos
TLDR News EU
https://www.youtube.com/c/TLDRNewsEU/videos
Untold News
https://www.youtube.com/c/UntoldNews123/videos
Warthog Defense
https://www.youtube.com/c/WarthogProduction/videos
36 Update
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_lhKBhtwVdCbHnOwvqWy3Q/videos
US Daily Brief
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbue2DdTM_S5LPvPeOYyP3A/videos
U.S Daily News
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi5PgcN1EK-2M0PwgLY9LOA/videos
War in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP2QApi8G2TKc8NZmeDWSUg/videos
U.S Military News
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqQOZUzmRhGLUj6sXXl0zBg/videos
US Secret Agenda
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYYAo4actN90lemgcjdzSFg/videos
UK news
https://www.youtube.com/user/pnolfoak/videos
TVP World
https://www.youtube.com/c/TVPWorld/videos
- TVP is a Polish public broadcast service
I often do a general sweep to see if there are any other posts on Ukraine
that these sites missed. But you have to be careful. There are often fake
Russian news sites, game sites such as MilSim, and other crud to avoid:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ukraine+war
--
MRM
and economic devastation on the planet is incalculable, and the loss of
life is a tragic waste.
For those who are interested, I have compiled a list of various sites that
discuss recent events in Ukraine. Some are better than others - I placed
the two best and most reliable at the top of the list.
The Russian Dude <- very good. My top source
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRussianDude/videos
Combat Veteran Reacts <- very good (loud)
https://www.youtube.com/c/CombatVeteranReacts/videos
Artur Rehi
https://www.youtube.com/c/arturrehi/videos
CRUX
https://www.youtube.com/c/CRUXnews/videos
Peter Ziehan Economy And Geopolitics
https://www.youtube.com/c/EconomyAndGeopolitics/videos
FRANCE 24 English - some Ukraine news
https://www.youtube.com/c/FRANCE24English/videos
Joe Blogs <- good review of economics resulting from the war
https://www.youtube.com/c/JoeBlogs/videos
Lena News
https://www.youtube.com/c/LenaNewss/videos
Newslab
https://www.youtube.com/c/Newslab0/videos
Speak The Truth <- very boring. depends on Russian News
https://www.youtube.com/c/SpeakTheTruth1/videos
Stone News
https://www.youtube.com/c/StoneNews/videos
The Sun
https://www.youtube.com/c/thesun/videos
TLDR News EU
https://www.youtube.com/c/TLDRNewsEU/videos
Untold News
https://www.youtube.com/c/UntoldNews123/videos
Warthog Defense
https://www.youtube.com/c/WarthogProduction/videos
36 Update
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_lhKBhtwVdCbHnOwvqWy3Q/videos
US Daily Brief
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbue2DdTM_S5LPvPeOYyP3A/videos
U.S Daily News
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi5PgcN1EK-2M0PwgLY9LOA/videos
War in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP2QApi8G2TKc8NZmeDWSUg/videos
U.S Military News
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqQOZUzmRhGLUj6sXXl0zBg/videos
US Secret Agenda
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYYAo4actN90lemgcjdzSFg/videos
UK news
https://www.youtube.com/user/pnolfoak/videos
TVP World
https://www.youtube.com/c/TVPWorld/videos
- TVP is a Polish public broadcast service
I often do a general sweep to see if there are any other posts on Ukraine
that these sites missed. But you have to be careful. There are often fake
Russian news sites, game sites such as MilSim, and other crud to avoid:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ukraine+war
--
MRM
Ed Lee
Aug 11, 2022, 4:03:53 PM8/11/22
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three_jeeps
Aug 11, 2022, 4:11:35 PM8/11/22
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On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:05:35 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:55:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
> William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> <2c42a698-2ecb-49a3...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:40:57 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> >> <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
> >> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
snip
> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:55:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
> William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> <2c42a698-2ecb-49a3...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:40:57 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> >> <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
> >> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
"> Germany in WW2 was mostly defeated by Russia, including grabbing Hitler.
> US was mostly fighting Japan in the Pacific war."
Also the invasion of Italy meeting up with Pattons push from the west.
Paralleled by massive bombing of Germany by B-24s and with the British, taking on the Lufwaffel stationed in Amsterdam, Brussels.
Hardly 'Germany being mostly defeated by Russia'
Yea, the Russians mounted and were able to maintain a counteroffensive when the Germans got to Kursk, Leningrad and Kiev. They did get to Hitler about 1-2 days before the US got there.
Anthony William Sloman
Aug 11, 2022, 10:41:53 PM8/11/22
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On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:11:35 AM UTC+10, three_jeeps wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:05:35 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:55:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
> > William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> > <2c42a698-2ecb-49a3...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:40:57 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > >> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> > >> <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> snip
> "> Germany in WW2 was mostly defeated by Russia, including grabbing Hitler.
> > US was mostly fighting Japan in the Pacific war."
> Ummm, not quite correct....Look up Omaha, Gold, Juno, Sword beaches and Germany's Western Front.
> Also the invasion of Italy meeting up with Pattons push from the west.
Look at the numbers. The Western Front was always a side-show. It made the Russian's job a lot easier, but the Russians had 6.5 million troops on the ground. and the allies in the west never had more than 4.5 million.
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:05:35 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:55:48 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
> > William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> > <2c42a698-2ecb-49a3...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:40:57 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > >> On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
> > >> <e5c2ad93-80d8-447e...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 12:51:38 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> snip
> "> Germany in WW2 was mostly defeated by Russia, including grabbing Hitler.
> > US was mostly fighting Japan in the Pacific war."
> Ummm, not quite correct....Look up Omaha, Gold, Juno, Sword beaches and Germany's Western Front.
> Also the invasion of Italy meeting up with Pattons push from the west.
> Paralleled by massive bombing of Germany by B-24s and with the British, taking on the Lufwaffe stationed in Amsterdam, Brussels.
It helped, but what really made a difference was the use of air-power to disable the German railway system which happened very late in the war.
> Hardly 'Germany being mostly defeated by Russia'
> Yea, the Russians mounted and were able to maintain a counteroffensive when the Germans got to Kursk, Leningrad and Kiev. They did get to Hitler about 1-2 days before the US got there.
The Russian offensive around Kursk was successfully concluded on the 23rd August 1943, almost a year before D-day. The western Allies success in Italy had helped, but Kursk was a much larger battle. and marks the point where the Russians had started beating the Germans.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
Aug 12, 2022, 11:14:25 AM8/12/22
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:td2ra7$25p0e$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> Germany in WW2 was mostly defeated by Russia, including grabbing
> Hitler. US was mostly fighting Japan in the Pacific war.
>
is, much less two or three.
You have been mostly defeated by your own utter stupidity.
Ooops, that just popped out of my mouth.
Yes, stupid fuck... communism is fucking lame.
Ohhh, looky... so did that.
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
Aug 12, 2022, 11:16:07 AM8/12/22
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:td2ra7$25p0e$1
@dont-email.me:
> They have not even started using things yet.
>
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
Aug 12, 2022, 11:20:25 AM8/12/22
to
Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:td2ra7$25p0e$1...@dont-email.me:
> Yes, compared to the next to zero designs you designed, build, and
> showed here: I'v done it all Nice gamma spectrometer here too,
> something others here only babble about
>
>
Whatever you designed, you were over exposed.
That is one reason why your drivel shows severe addling.
Jim Jackson
Aug 18, 2022, 2:48:14 PM8/18/22
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On 2022-08-11, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
> on ALL of humanity!!!!!
For xxxx's sake - which planet are you on?
>
> Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
> on ALL of humanity!!!!!
Or have you just stopped taking the meds?
Jan Panteltje
Aug 19, 2022, 1:05:04 AM8/19/22
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On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
<j...@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntft2...@iridium.wf32df>:
Planet earth, stardate ???
Yes, Faulty was at the source of the bat experiments that were considered too dangerous
even by US DOD.
He should be convicted for crimes against humanity.
As should all those US destruction machine leaders and their puppets like you.
<j...@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntft2...@iridium.wf32df>:
Yes, Faulty was at the source of the bat experiments that were considered too dangerous
even by US DOD.
He should be convicted for crimes against humanity.
As should all those US destruction machine leaders and their puppets like you.
whit3rd
Aug 19, 2022, 2:15:51 AM8/19/22
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On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:05:04 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
> <j...@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntft2...@iridium.wf32df>:
> >On 2022-08-11, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
> >> on ALL of humanity!!!!!
> >
> >For xxxx's sake - which planet are you on?
> >Or have you just stopped taking the meds?
> Planet earth, stardate ???
> Yes, Faulty was at the source of the bat experiments
So, it's a guilt-by-association argument? But the 'bat experiments' were on a different
> On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
> <j...@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntft2...@iridium.wf32df>:
> >On 2022-08-11, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
> >> on ALL of humanity!!!!!
> >
> >For xxxx's sake - which planet are you on?
> >Or have you just stopped taking the meds?
> Planet earth, stardate ???
> Yes, Faulty was at the source of the bat experiments
continent than Dr. Fauci.
>that were considered too dangerous
> even by US DOD.
> He should be convicted for crimes against humanity.
> As should all those US destruction machine leaders and their puppets like you.
Jan Panteltje
Aug 19, 2022, 6:28:19 AM8/19/22
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3On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Aug 2022 23:15:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
<whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
<97144fa6-3085-4e77...@googlegroups.com>:
>On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:05:04 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
>> <j...@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntft2...@iridium.wf32df>:
>> >On 2022-08-11, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
>> >> on ALL of humanity!!!!!
>> >
>> >For xxxx's sake - which planet are you on?
>> >Or have you just stopped taking the meds?
>
>> Planet earth, stardate ???
>> Yes, Faulty was at the source of the bat experiments
>
>So, it's a guilt-by-association argument? But the 'bat experiments' were on a different
>continent than Dr. Fauci.
It was, as US always does with very dangerous experiments, AND WARS!!!, placed in a far from their bed place.
The Chinese lab was funded by Faulty.
It backfired in a big way.
>>that were considered too dangerous
>> even by US DOD.
>
>Huh? US DOD doesn't publish biohazard assessments.
Papers and lab reports have been on the internet, easily found back then for
anyone with a real interest, I have read those.
>> He should be convicted for crimes against humanity.
>
>Not on the basis of anything you know.
Always people who never did their homework seem to know what others do not or do know... :-)
Its so easy to watch CNN and some other mass manipulation channels and sing along!!!!
>> As should all those US destruction machine leaders and their puppets like you.
>
>Who pulls the strings on Jan Panteltje, one wonders?
I have been a rebel from very young age, but then I was not delivered by storks like you earthlings,
but it was obvious to most that I was dropped by a flying cup and saucer.
earthlings tried to make me dance but it never really worked.
Nothing to worry about earthlings! you are just a chemical reaction
and your leaders are even afraid to acknowledge that there are more reactions like that all over the place
you refer to as 'universe' (Mars Viking lander experiment was positive for life)
There may well be a place where aliens keep humans in cages and use human models like we use 'mouse models'
to make their medicines and weapons.
Even after sun ends your reactions...
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Yet all reactions are in a way predicatable:
https://www.rt.com/russia/561016-russia-relations-north-korea/
https://www.rt.com/news/561108-orban-ukraine-conflict-end-western-hegemony/
<whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
<97144fa6-3085-4e77...@googlegroups.com>:
>On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:05:04 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson
>> <j...@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrntft2...@iridium.wf32df>:
>> >On 2022-08-11, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Nobody has sentenced doctor Faulty yet, todays Mengele, covid experimenter
>> >> on ALL of humanity!!!!!
>> >
>> >For xxxx's sake - which planet are you on?
>> >Or have you just stopped taking the meds?
>
>> Planet earth, stardate ???
>> Yes, Faulty was at the source of the bat experiments
>
>So, it's a guilt-by-association argument? But the 'bat experiments' were on a different
>continent than Dr. Fauci.
The Chinese lab was funded by Faulty.
It backfired in a big way.
>>that were considered too dangerous
>> even by US DOD.
>
>Huh? US DOD doesn't publish biohazard assessments.
anyone with a real interest, I have read those.
>> He should be convicted for crimes against humanity.
>
>Not on the basis of anything you know.
Its so easy to watch CNN and some other mass manipulation channels and sing along!!!!
>> As should all those US destruction machine leaders and their puppets like you.
>
>Who pulls the strings on Jan Panteltje, one wonders?
but it was obvious to most that I was dropped by a flying cup and saucer.
earthlings tried to make me dance but it never really worked.
Nothing to worry about earthlings! you are just a chemical reaction
and your leaders are even afraid to acknowledge that there are more reactions like that all over the place
you refer to as 'universe' (Mars Viking lander experiment was positive for life)
There may well be a place where aliens keep humans in cages and use human models like we use 'mouse models'
to make their medicines and weapons.
Even after sun ends your reactions...
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Yet all reactions are in a way predicatable:
https://www.rt.com/russia/561016-russia-relations-north-korea/
https://www.rt.com/news/561108-orban-ukraine-conflict-end-western-hegemony/
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