Crank flashlights: Which batteries are in there?
Joerg
leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost wrecked
a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight with crank
from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio with weather
band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what kind of batteries
are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site they
don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good, lots of
"The system cannot find the path specified."
I am not a fan of LEDs, they just aren't as bright as regular flashlight
bulbs. But this thing is pretty good. One minute of cranking and it
lights long enough to find stuff, even keeps its charge. Ok, they say 30
minutes but it gets dim after 5-10 minutes. Good enough for me, if the
battery holds up over the long run.
--
Regards, Joerg
_
I took apart the small one I just got and it had a 40mAh NiCad. Rounded
case, about 3" x 1.5" x 1", three LEDs, on-off slide switch, short attached
wrist-strap like those on digicams. $6. Works quite well, brighter than
the bigger one I got last year, nice and small, fits in one hand.
Jim Yanik
news:wHiHi.50488$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
> The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery that
> leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost wrecked
> a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight with crank
> from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio with weather
> band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what kind of batteries
> are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
IMO,Duracell batteries are prone to leaking.
If they are used in your crank flashlight,then that will fail,too.
Get a flashlight that uses lithium cells.
>
> Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site they
> don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good, lots of
> "The system cannot find the path specified."
>
> I am not a fan of LEDs, they just aren't as bright as regular flashlight
> bulbs.
The 1W and 3W Luxeon LED lights are pretty good.
> But this thing is pretty good. One minute of cranking and it
> lights long enough to find stuff, even keeps its charge. Ok, they say 30
> minutes but it gets dim after 5-10 minutes. Good enough for me, if the
> battery holds up over the long run.
>
IF.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
sleb...@gmail.com
wrote:
When I took apart my crank LED flashlight to fix the switch I found to
my surprise a large capacitor instead of a battery. Explains why the
thing is so damn light. Not as bright as a regular flashlight but I
find it usable. Mine uses a ratchet based crank for single handed
operation so I can actually use it while cranking. Don't know the
brand though.. probably made in China.. I got it as SWAG from a Fluke
booth at a convention.
Joerg
That's what I was thinking (but still hoping for a super-cap...). I
guess that NiCd will eventually croak under these frequent and partial
cycles. Just like those for my lil' hand grinder. Lasted only one year :-(
Joerg
> Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
> news:wHiHi.50488$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
>
>
>>The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery that
>>leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost wrecked
>>a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight with crank
>>from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio with weather
>>band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what kind of batteries
>>are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
>
>
> IMO,Duracell batteries are prone to leaking.
> If they are used in your crank flashlight,then that will fail,too.
> Get a flashlight that uses lithium cells.
>
Hmm. They also had a four-pack of others but I figured a brand name
might be better. Plus the radio feature is nice in case the really big
shaker comes.
>
>>Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site they
>>don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good, lots of
>>"The system cannot find the path specified."
>>
>>I am not a fan of LEDs, they just aren't as bright as regular flashlight
>>bulbs.
>
>
> The 1W and 3W Luxeon LED lights are pretty good.
>
>
>>But this thing is pretty good. One minute of cranking and it
>>lights long enough to find stuff, even keeps its charge. Ok, they say 30
>>minutes but it gets dim after 5-10 minutes. Good enough for me, if the
>>battery holds up over the long run.
>>
>
>
> IF.
>
Well, great, here you just blotted out my optimism ... Oh well, let's
hope it lasts. We also have a humongous $10 flashlight with a lead-acid
gel cell. It was said not to last but surprisingly it has now lasted
three years. We use it every day to clean up after the dogs when they do
their late night potty. You can light up the road signs clear across the
valley with that one.
Joerg
Then it should last nearly forever. Well, until something mechanical
gives up. Mine won't open without destruction but what surprised me was
that the lights they had there at Costco lit nearly for the max time,
sans cranking. I tried the one I bought: Turned it one, went through the
store to load all the other stuff I needed, returned 20 mins later and
it was still going. At least a NiMH would not hold a charge for months
while shipping.
Jim Yanik
news:PwxHi.50583$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>
>> Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
>> news:wHiHi.50488$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
>>
>>
>>>The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery
>>>that leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost
>>>wrecked a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight
>>>with crank from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio
>>>with weather band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what
>>>kind of batteries are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
>>
>>
>> IMO,Duracell batteries are prone to leaking.
>> If they are used in your crank flashlight,then that will fail,too.
>> Get a flashlight that uses lithium cells.
>>
>
> Hmm. They also had a four-pack of others but I figured a brand name
> might be better. Plus the radio feature is nice in case the really big
> shaker comes.
I've been buying Fuji Novel alkalines,they don't leak and they are cheaper
than Everready or Duracell,seem to last just as long.
>
>>
>>>Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site
>>>they don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good,
>>>lots of "The system cannot find the path specified."
>>>
>>>I am not a fan of LEDs, they just aren't as bright as regular
>>>flashlight bulbs.
>>
>>
>> The 1W and 3W Luxeon LED lights are pretty good.
>>
>>
>>>But this thing is pretty good. One minute of cranking and it
>>>lights long enough to find stuff, even keeps its charge. Ok, they say
>>>30 minutes but it gets dim after 5-10 minutes. Good enough for me, if
>>>the battery holds up over the long run.
>>>
>>
>>
>> IF.
>>
>
> Well, great, here you just blotted out my optimism ... Oh well, let's
> hope it lasts.
For what you paid,it was an OK buy,IMO.
> We also have a humongous $10 flashlight with a
> lead-acid gel cell. It was said not to last but surprisingly it has
> now lasted three years. We use it every day to clean up after the dogs
> when they do their late night potty. You can light up the road signs
> clear across the valley with that one.
>
I had a couple of 12v 20AH gel cells(scooter batteries) that came in handy
after Hurricane Charlie took out my electricity for 7 days;I used old PC
power supply fans to give me a mild breeze to sleep in the hot,humid
Florida weather,and had a 12v fluorescent lamp for light.
But they eventually succumbed to sulphation. :-(
Jim Yanik
news:YAxHi.50584$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
This reminds me of the $3 "forever" shaker flashlight I bought,only to find
the coil was not connected,no storage cap,and two lithium coin cells
actually powering the LED.(1 CR2032,1 CR2025)
Joerg
> Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
> news:PwxHi.50583$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
>
>
>>Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
>>>news:wHiHi.50488$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery
>>>>that leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost
>>>>wrecked a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight
>>>>with crank from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio
>>>>with weather band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what
>>>>kind of batteries are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
>>>
>>>
>>>IMO,Duracell batteries are prone to leaking.
>>>If they are used in your crank flashlight,then that will fail,too.
>>>Get a flashlight that uses lithium cells.
>>>
>>
>>Hmm. They also had a four-pack of others but I figured a brand name
>>might be better. Plus the radio feature is nice in case the really big
>>shaker comes.
>
>
> I've been buying Fuji Novel alkalines,they don't leak and they are cheaper
> than Everready or Duracell,seem to last just as long.
>
It's hard to find brands other than Duracell out here since that is what
Costco and other discounters carry. At the supermarkets batteries are
really expensive. Had to do the scraping and vinegar thing on our
emergency lantern yesterday. Same thing: Lit up brightly on both tubes
but one D-cell had oozed all over :-(
>>>>Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site
>>>>they don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good,
>>>>lots of "The system cannot find the path specified."
>>>>
>>>>I am not a fan of LEDs, they just aren't as bright as regular
>>>>flashlight bulbs.
>>>
>>>
>>>The 1W and 3W Luxeon LED lights are pretty good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>But this thing is pretty good. One minute of cranking and it
>>>>lights long enough to find stuff, even keeps its charge. Ok, they say
>>>>30 minutes but it gets dim after 5-10 minutes. Good enough for me, if
>>>>the battery holds up over the long run.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>IF.
>>>
>>
>>Well, great, here you just blotted out my optimism ... Oh well, let's
>>hope it lasts.
>
>
> For what you paid,it was an OK buy,IMO.
>
Yeah, I guess. It also has an amber blinker LED. I want to try that
during our evening dog walks. Sometimes we chat with neighbors and
whoops, it's dark. The usual lanyard blinker gizmos are mostly junk,
fell apart on us. Costco also has a headlamp, maybe I'll see if I can
mod that to red and wear it "in reverse". It's all a 25mph zone here but
some of those kids really tear down the road.
>
>>We also have a humongous $10 flashlight with a
>>lead-acid gel cell. It was said not to last but surprisingly it has
>>now lasted three years. We use it every day to clean up after the dogs
>>when they do their late night potty. You can light up the road signs
>>clear across the valley with that one.
>>
>
>
> I had a couple of 12v 20AH gel cells(scooter batteries) that came in handy
> after Hurricane Charlie took out my electricity for 7 days;I used old PC
> power supply fans to give me a mild breeze to sleep in the hot,humid
> Florida weather,and had a 12v fluorescent lamp for light.
>
We have a Statpower "suitcase" with a piggybacked 300W inverter. It has
kept the wood stove fans going for six hours once. Very nice. For longer
periods one can connect a car battery to it.
> But they eventually succumbed to sulphation. :-(
>
But they still last an amazingly long time.
Gary Tait
$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
> The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery that
> leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost
wrecked
> a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight with crank
> from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio with
weather
> band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what kind of
batteries
> are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
Mos likely some sort of recharegable battery rather than a supercap for
that one. My 3 LED crank light uses a NIMH pack, although my 1 LED
shake light uses a Supercap.
> Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site
they
> don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good, lots
of
> "The system cannot find the path specified."
>
Most likely they leased out their brand for those devices.
Joerg
Yes, and a lot of people brought them back to the stores because of
premature "failure". Lack of honesty usually doesn't pay.
Eeyore
Joerg wrote:
> Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site they
> don't even make them (!).
Maybe the Chinese manufacturere just 'borrowed' the Duracell name ?
Googling "Duracell KP028" just leads to ebay which is a bit of a giveaway.
Graham
Eeyore
Joerg wrote:
> _ wrote:
>
> >
> > I took apart the small one I just got and it had a 40mAh NiCad. Rounded
> > case, about 3" x 1.5" x 1", three LEDs, on-off slide switch, short attached
> > wrist-strap like those on digicams. $6. Works quite well, brighter than
> > the bigger one I got last year, nice and small, fits in one hand.
>
> That's what I was thinking (but still hoping for a super-cap...).
Super caps don't have the energy density required.
Graham
Joerg
> Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in news:wHiHi.50488
> $Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
>
>
>>The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery that
>>leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost
>
> wrecked
>
>>a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight with crank
>>from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio with
>
> weather
>
>>band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what kind of
>
> batteries
>
>>are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
>
>
> Mos likely some sort of recharegable battery rather than a supercap for
> that one. My 3 LED crank light uses a NIMH pack, although my 1 LED
> shake light uses a Supercap.
>
If they market these in Europe it couldn't be NiCd. I've never seen a
shake light. Wonder if scraping out the super cap and LED would beat the
Digikey prices for super caps (pretty high).
>
>
>>Google didn't lead to any hints and according to the Duracell site
>
> they
>
>>don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good, lots
>
> of
>
>>"The system cannot find the path specified."
>>
>
>
> Most likely they leased out their brand for those devices.
>
That would be a rather dangerous business practice. If they hold up,
fine. But if they don't, hoo boy. They have their corporate address in
CT on the warranty slip. AFAIK they belong to PG now.
Joerg
Well, these are carried by Costco and the package has the correct
corporate address for warranty returns on there. Costco is a major
country-wide discount chain here in the US, they could not possibly sell
merchandise from "shady" sources. Or let's say they could only do that
once ;-)
Joel Kolstad
news:FSzHi.3635$3Y1....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> I've never seen a shake light.
Probably because they're a gimmick -- "shacking" is just about the most power
inefficient way I can manage to turn human motion into electrical energy!
Spehro Pefhany
The factories get paid up front. It doesn't pay to be lazy in spot
checking and evaluating product from third-world countries.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Joerg
One has to hope that the merchants or whoever ultimately pays for the
loss learn. A classic example was a lanyard lantern my wife wanted to
buy from a hardware store, for walking the dogs after dark. The clerk
finally gave up after the whole thing fell apart upon battery
installation and exclaimed "That stuff really is junk, as you said."
Joerg
That's what I thought. It's kind of ok for watches where little energy
is needed. But even there you can buy "shaker cradles" to place them
into at night if you don't exercise them enough. It's quite a joke IMHO.
Chris Jones
> Gary Tait wrote:
>
>> Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in news:wHiHi.50488
>> $Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:
>>
>>
>>>The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery that
>>>leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost
>>
>> wrecked
>>
>>>a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight with crank
>>>from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio with
>>
>> weather
>>
>>>band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what kind of
>>
>> batteries
>>
>>>are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
Don't know. I remember reading about some of those ones that you're
supposed to shake, with the magnet that goes through a coil. It turns out
that some of them have a fake magnet and coil, and a tiny non-rechargeable
battery that will keep it going until the user gets it home (and probably
loses interest).
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=shake+coil+flashlight+fake
The wind-up radios have a spring and a tiny generator, that probably has a
much longer shelf life than any common battery.
>> Mos likely some sort of recharegable battery rather than a supercap for
>> that one. My 3 LED crank light uses a NIMH pack, although my 1 LED
>> shake light uses a Supercap.
>>
>
> If they market these in Europe it couldn't be NiCd. I've never seen a
> shake light. Wonder if scraping out the super cap and LED would beat the
> Digikey prices for super caps (pretty high).
Not true AFAIK: Batteries are exempt from RoHS, and NiCd are certainly still
used in ultra-cheap cordless drills (sold in the EU) that will fail and get
chucked out within a year. If you ask me, they should only be allowed to
keep using NiCd in products with a >3 year warranty (maybe 5 years), and
they probably should charge a refundable deposit on NiCds and lead-acid
batteries to encourage recycling them. It'd make a hell of a lot more
difference than RoHS, without most of the problems.
Chris
Chris Jones
[snip]
>
> Oh well, let's
> hope it lasts. We also have a humongous $10 flashlight with a lead-acid
> gel cell. It was said not to last but surprisingly it has now lasted
> three years. We use it every day to clean up after the dogs when they do
> their late night potty. You can light up the road signs clear across the
> valley with that one.
>
I bought a lamp with a lead-acid battery in it, and the supplied charger was
brutally over-charging it. If you make sure that you never exceed the
proper charge voltage (i.e. don't use the supplied charger without checking
using a voltmeter, or just add a LM317), and never deep discharge it, those
little lead acid batteries can last for well over a decade.
Chris
Tim Williams
("Crank"?)
Tim
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Joerg
On ours the charger is so wimpy that it needs all night to recharge. Not
sure about the cut-off though. But there is no perceptible loss of
capacity over all those years.
Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie
> Zero-point energy batteries, of course.
I'm working on a design for one of those, but for the implementation,
I'm going to need to find a witch. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
Clifford Heath
> I'm going to need to find a witch. ;-)
A what?
Joerg
And watch for that black rider on a white horse, can spell trouble.
However, depending on the direction he travels this can also get you out
of an engagement vow.
Ecnerwal
Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
Off the shelf Bicycle Red "Superbright" LED flashers might be simpler -
most have steady and multiple flashing modes, and the unexciting example
that's on my beater utility bike just keeps working. I've seen them for
$2 in surplus outlets, more at bike shops.
--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Joerg
Yes, I've seen one on a bike today. Pretty bright.
Back in the military we had lights that you could hang onto belts. They
came with selectable color filters. Very practical. Unfortunately the
civilian world doesn't seem to be that practical in this matter.
Rich Grise
> Joerg <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>> Yeah, I guess. It also has an amber blinker LED. I want to try that
>> during our evening dog walks. Sometimes we chat with neighbors and
>> whoops, it's dark. The usual lanyard blinker gizmos are mostly junk,
>> fell apart on us. Costco also has a headlamp, maybe I'll see if I can
>> mod that to red and wear it "in reverse". It's all a 25mph zone here but
>> some of those kids really tear down the road.
>
> Off the shelf Bicycle Red "Superbright" LED flashers might be simpler -
> most have steady and multiple flashing modes, and the unexciting example
> that's on my beater utility bike just keeps working. I've seen them for
> $2 in surplus outlets, more at bike shops.
I was waiting for the bus at about twilight the other day, and I saw a
very weird flashing/blinking light on the road. I had no idea what it
was until it got close enough to resolve it in the twilight, and it
was a man dressed in black on a black bicycle with ONE flashing LED
on it. Judging from my reaction when I first saw it, I'd say a strobe-
type flash (like you get with those bike flashers) could be distracting,
or even confusing to some drivers. I'd go for steady white in the front,
steady red in the back, and maybe a yellow flasher on top of your hat. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
> Ecnerwal wrote:
>> Off the shelf Bicycle Red "Superbright" LED flashers might be simpler -
>> most have steady and multiple flashing modes, and the unexciting
>> example that's on my beater utility bike just keeps working. I've seen
>> them for $2 in surplus outlets, more at bike shops.
>
> Yes, I've seen one on a bike today. Pretty bright.
>
> Back in the military we had lights that you could hang onto belts. They
> came with selectable color filters. Very practical. Unfortunately the
> civilian world doesn't seem to be that practical in this matter.
No, the civilian world doesn't want to pay $200.00 for a blackout
flashlight. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie
No, What's on second. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie
> Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:59:29 -0500, Tim Williams top-posted:
>>
>>>Zero-point energy batteries, of course.
>>
>> I'm working on a design for one of those, but for the implementation,
>> I'm going to need to find a witch. ;-)
>
> And watch for that black rider on a white horse, can spell trouble.
> However, depending on the direction he travels this can also get you out
> of an engagement vow.
Nah - I've already got the stripped MOT; all we need to do is conjur
up a Faerie and a Daemon to dance around the core at 60 Hz. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
Charlie Edmondson
that you strapped to your leg, so that they went up and down as you
pedaled. Found out later that drunks got confused by the motion and
usually aimed for it... :-(
Charlie
Gary Tait
news:13eu19r...@corp.supernews.com:
> Don't know. I remember reading about some of those ones that you're
> supposed to shake, with the magnet that goes through a coil. It turns
> out that some of them have a fake magnet and coil, and a tiny
> non-rechargeable battery that will keep it going until the user gets
> it home (and probably loses interest).
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=shake+coil+flashlight+fake
Mine is definately a real shake light.
> The wind-up radios have a spring and a tiny generator, that probably
> has a much longer shelf life than any common battery.
>
Not the recent el-cheapo imports. They simply have a crank dynamo charging
some sort of accumulator. You gotta pay for the clockwork radios.
hamd...@gmail.com
> The umpteenth flashlight was completely corroded out by a battery that
> leaked despite the fact that it was delivering power. It almost wrecked
> a nice cabinet along with it. So, I just got a flashlight with crank
> from Costco. Duracell KP028, two for $15, even has a radio with weather
> band in there. Now I am curious: Does anyone know what kind of batteries
> are in there? Maybe even a super-cap?
>
> don't even make them (!). Then again their site isn't very good, lots of
> "The system cannot find the path specified."
>
> I am not a fan of LEDs, they just aren't as bright as regular flashlight
> minutes but it gets dim after 5-10 minutes. Good enough for me, if the
> battery holds up over the long run.
>
I opened the Tricky Duracell emergency cranking/radio/flashlight model KP028 .I found three AAA 300MAh 3.6 v(are together rapped in a triangler shape like a pyramid) The info on the battery was : NI- MH 20070203 2/3 AAA 300MAh 3.6V. The three batteries have two soldered wires red and black from the battery side and soldered on the little motherboard to make it hard for who has small knowledge of soldering to do the job.
Actually I found a battery similar sold for a Sony cellphone model SPP-D15 looks similar but not sure if the size is the same - costs $17.99.
I Googgled the battery and found a Chinese website is selling these but you can not buy a single battery you have to buy the whole lot!!!??? Weird hh?
I called Duracell third party which make these flash lights for them and they said they do not sell these batteries! Basically you should throw it away.
How bad Costco is not doing anything about it???
I like the radio it has clear stations.
Costco should have checked how convenient the battery change is for the consumers before selling such junky so called 3 in 1 emergency radio /flashlight!!!Duracell should take the responsibility and cell these rechargeable batteries.Every one should call them and let them know this is scam from this company which all of their batteries are badly manufactured and no one leaking batteries in the USA ruining all of your devices in a very short period of time. Do not buy Duracell products specially their batteries. Energizer lithium batteries are a lot better.
Jasen Betts
> I opened the Tricky Duracell emergency cranking/radio/flashlight
> model KP028 .I found three AAA 300MAh 3.6 v(are together rapped in a
> triangler shape like a pyramid) The info on the battery was : NI- MH
> 20070203 2/3 AAA 300MAh 3.6V. The three batteries have two soldered
> wires red and black from the battery side and soldered on the little
> motherboard to make it hard for who has small knowledge of soldering
> to do the job.
> Actually I found a battery similar sold for a Sony cellphone model
> SPP-D15 looks similar but not sure if the size is the same
usually nickel batteries.
you can probably hav the battery pack rebuilt by a battery specialist
in your town.
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> Costco should have checked how convenient the battery change is for the consumers before selling such junky so called 3 in 1 emergency radio /flashlight!!!Duracell should take the responsibility and cell these rechargeable batteries.Every one should call them and let them know this is scam from this company which all of their batteries are badly manufactured and no one leaking batteries in the USA ruining all of your devices in a very short period of time. Do not buy Duracell products specially their batteries. Energizer lithium batteries are a lot better.
something they sold eight years ago are available.
Of course it is easy to buy some 2/3 AAA batteries with tabs and solder
them together <http://www.megabatteries.com/item_details2.asp?id=14142>
but you never seem to actually be interested in solving problems with
old equipment that you own, you just want to blame someone.
Don Y
[Note, Joerg's post is 2007-vintage so no idea why this has been resurrected]
On 1/21/2015 4:27 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2015-01-21, hamd...@gmail.com <hamd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I opened the Tricky Duracell emergency cranking/radio/flashlight
>> model KP028 .I found three AAA 300MAh 3.6 v(are together rapped in a
>> triangler shape like a pyramid) The info on the battery was : NI- MH
>> 20070203 2/3 AAA 300MAh 3.6V. The three batteries have two soldered
>> wires red and black from the battery side and soldered on the little
>> motherboard to make it hard for who has small knowledge of soldering
>> to do the job.
>
> if 2/3 AAA they'll be shorter than normal.
Over time, this means they lose the very ability for which they
were purchased ("emergency/reliable").
I've an "emergency" crank radio that goes a step further -- using
a large "mainspring" (like in a clock) to drive the generator.
You wind it up and it unwinds over the course of about 6 minutes
to power the radio.
It also has a small battery pack (which has long ago died) and a
solar cell to recharge it. But, the *mechanical* solution is the one
that has survived!
[I'm reluctant to disassemble it to attempt a battery replacement
out of fear of a giant "*sproing*" accompanied by a shower of
gears...]
