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NefeshBarYochai

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Feb 9, 2024, 3:49:13 PM2/9/24
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By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
February 6, 2024

For several weeks, the city of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip
has witnessed intense Israeli bombardment by ground and air, as well
as fierce clashes between Israeli forces and Hamas fighters. Israeli
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant announced last week that the army had
successfully dismantled Hamas’ capabilities in the city — a claim
Israel made earlier about Gaza City in the north, only to be proven
wrong. But in Khan Younis, as in the rest of Gaza, it is we civilians
who are bearing the brunt of the violence.

Israeli tanks have besieged two of the most important hospitals still
partially functioning in southern Gaza: Nasser and Al-Amal. Both are
located in the western part of Khan Younis, and have been overwhelmed
since the war began not only with the influx of patients but also with
families seeking shelter after having been displaced from the northern
parts of the Strip. Israeli forces opened fire at the more than 8,000
displaced people sheltering in the vicinity of Nasser Hospital, and
bulldozed graves in the adjacent cemetery — one of at least 16
cemeteries that Israel has desecrated during its operation in Gaza.

Israeli tanks also penetrated the vicinity of Al-Aqsa University at
the western edge of the city, near the previously designated “safe
zone” of Al-Mawasi; targeted the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA)
Training Center, one of the largest shelters in all of Gaza which had
been accommodating up to 40,000 displaced people; and completely
surrounded the western part of Khan Younis refugee camp.

The Israeli army dropped leaflets ordering residents to evacuate Khan
Younis, and in recent days some 120,000 Palestinians have fled the
city through a supposedly “safe corridor” spanning from the west of
the refugee camp to the area of Al-Mawasi near Al-Aqsa University. The
passage through this corridor, however, which is made up of three
Israeli military checkpoints, has for many Palestinians been one of
the most harrowing ordeals since the war began.

According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

<continue reading>

https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/


Jan Panteltje

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On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
<vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

>By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
> February 6, 2024
>According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
>shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.
>
> <continue reading>
>
>https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
had a point.
This behavior is unacceptable and US support for their war crimes make
the US complicit.
If US REALLY had a heart and guts it would eliminate the israely 'government'
take control and create a 2 state solution
I see no difference between that jewish fanatic group and any other fanatic group.
May the best one win.
Darwin Evolution
WW3
Half senile demonrat biden as puppet of the US military complex creating wars and unrest all over the world
using the CIA to be able to sell weapons and burn their own people
financed by the poor US taxpayers.
He then claims more jobs created!!!
What a shame, what a rotten system, so much out of control.
Wars have a purpose.


Cursitor Doom

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
wrote:
That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely. He'd have
thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers
are always vilified, though.

John Larkin

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
wrote:

>On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
><vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:
>
>>By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
>> February 6, 2024
>>According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
>>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
>>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
>>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
>>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
>>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
>>shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.
>>
>> <continue reading>
>>
>>https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/
>
>Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
>if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
>had a point.

What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
camps.

What was Hitler's point? That Jews tended to be smarter than him? Is
that your complaint?



John Larkin

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:46:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com>
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DT gets along with Jews just fine, as any rational person does.

The world slowly advances towards civility and science and wealth and
peace. Our progress started with the 10 Commandments, Jesus'
teachings, Martin Luther, The Enlightment, British common law, and the
US Constitution as amended.

Some day people will stop killing one another in volume.

Some Muslim said the Christianity is the religon of life, and Islam is
the religion of death.

Bill Sloman

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On 10/02/2024 8:46 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invali wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai <vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

<snip>

> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
> terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely.

Not as a matter of principle - Trump is totally unprincipled - but
because his approach was to keep his life maximally simple.

> He'd have thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
> on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers are always
> vilified, though.

As if Trump was a "true peacemaker".

Throwing the Ukraine under the bus would encourage Putin to attempt even
more land grabs. That approach didn't work too well when Chamberlain
tried it 1938. You weren't around then, but better educated people have
heard about it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Cursitor Doom

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800, John Larkin <j...@997PotHill.com>
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That's exactly what George Soros did - and he was (and remains) Jewish
himself!

Bill Sloman

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> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:46:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid wrote
>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
>>> <vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

<snip>


> DT gets along with Jews just fine, as any rational person does.

Donald Trump isn't any kind of rational person.If he were he'd have
realised that he lost the 2020 presidential election, and that there was
very little voter fraud (no more than usual) and nowhere near enough to
suggest that it lost him the election

> The world slowly advances towards civility and science and wealth and
> peace. Our progress started with the 10 Commandments, Jesus'
> teachings, Martin Luther, The Enlightment, British common law, and the
> US Constitution as amended.

There are more progressive constitutional documents than the US
constitution, as currently amended and the places that rely on them have
things like universal health care, which hasn't made to the US yet.

> Some day people will stop killing one another in volume.

Perhaps. As long as there are creeps like Putin around, it's going to
keep on happening. Better gun control in the US would save a few lives.

> Some Muslim said the Christianity is the religon of life, and Islam is
> the religion of death.

But you can't name the Muslim, and you are probably misrepresenting what
was being said.

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darius

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Jan Panteltje

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On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<j...@997PotHill.com> wrote in <cgvesip0mirru5gej...@4ax.com>:
My father was a journalist not jewish ,, the Germans put him in a camp because he wrote
against the Germans, he was in the resistance too here.
He was freed by the Russians.
He was actually a real commie, fought with the left against franco in Spain too,
wrote for a left oriented newspaper.
My experience with jews is very negative.
Like I said, just an other bunch of fanatics.


>What was Hitler's point? That Jews tended to be smarter than him? Is
>that your complaint?
google
https://www.ushmm.org/teach/fundamentals/holocaust-questions

Smarter?
Looks like they cannot even run their own country.
Just a bunch of fanatics, now attacking and doing genocide on the Palestinians
who reacted to their nutcase leader's provoking grab of more of their land on Oct 7 I think it was
Palestine has been cut of from the world for a long time via sea and land barriers.

You still support that biden war monger for mony?



Jan Panteltje

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Your US country is prcticing the religion of death, killing everywhere at home and globally
Just to create jobs
Make a decent product for a cheap price if you want to help humanity, like China does.
Ever since the moonlandings US IQ has gone down, if a professor measures that
he gets fired. what a crap science.
Homelessnes, poverty, gun violence, drug death, racism, crime. US is WAY over the hill.
Add some glow-ball worming and its all over.
Yu wars for no reasonm otehr than suck your own people for taxes
Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, so many.
What a sad bunch of (fire) ants you are!!!!!


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Bill Sloman

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On 11/02/2024 1:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800, John Larkin <j...@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
>>> <vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

>> What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
>> would have you would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
>> camps.
>
> That's exactly what George Soros did - and he was (and remains) Jewish
> himself!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

That's a lie. George Soros was born on the August 12, 1930 so he was
just 14 when the war in Europe ended.

Soros was 13 years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.
Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an
official of the collaborationist Hungarian government's Ministry of
Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding. On one occasion,
rather than leave the 14-year-old alone, the official took Soros with
him while completing an inventory of a Jewish family's confiscated estate.

This isn't "turning in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
camps." It's getting dragged along on an unpleasant errand.

As revolting libels go, this is hard to beat. I hope it bankrupts you.

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Fred Bloggs

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Hitler was not originally anti-Semitic. He's actually on record as getting along quite well with them in early life. The WWI German Army colonel, who applied for and obtained for Hitler an unprecedented order of Iron Cross usually reserved for officers, was a Jew. Hitler adopted the anti-Semitic 'shtik', and that's all it was, when he was in prison and was exposed to that particular underground and its success in appealing to the kind of people he wanted on his side. He would do anything for power- another compulsive obsessive type.

Cursitor Doom

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Libel, eh? A rather unwise accusation. Very well, you are clearly
blind to the Truth, but others here may find this admission from the
Great Soros rather revealing:

https://banned.video/watch?id=64650419bd0cc4cd68f6e938

I'm happy to disabuse you of your ignorance once again, Bill.

darius

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bitrex

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The Jewish population in Germany prior to WWII was in large part very
"well-assimilated" to the European Gentile culture of Germany. Aside
from attending synagogue instead of church they dressed like Germans,
spoke German, worked and lived with native Germans, drank German beer
and ate German food, etc.

An outsider to both German and Jewish cultures might say that most
German Jews seemed 90% German. Unfortunately that 90% did them no great
favors under Nazi rule, there is likely an "uncanny valley" effect in
bigotry that can sometimes counterintuitively intensify it under
conditions of "very similar to us, but not one of us"

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley>

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> wrote:> >On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
> ><vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:
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> >>By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
> >> February 6, 2024
> >>According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
> >>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
> >>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
> >>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
> >>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
> >>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their

> >Wars have a purpose.

> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> entanglements...

How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
situation, though? He further complicated the situation
by declaring a terrorist organization and then
declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).

That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
It's also undiplomatic.

What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
NATO, WHO, NAFTA, etc.) that were win-win beneficial, he apparently only wanted to win if someone else lost.
Ditching those isn't quite a declaration of war, but it was certainly a tangled mess.

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Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

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You do have a strange idea of what constitutes "evidence". The fact that
you can misunderstand the facts to means what you'd like then to mean
doesn't mean that you are telling the truth - it just means that you
can't think straight.

> I'm happy to disabuse you of your ignorance once again, Bill.

The ignorance is all yours, coupled with some remarkably psychopathic
misconceptions.

You need psychiatric care, probably of the kind that involves locking
you in a padded cell and throwing away the key.

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> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
>>> wrote:> >On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai <vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

<snip>

>>> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
>>> entanglements...
>>
>> How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
>> situation, though? He further complicated the situation
>> by declaring a terrorist organization and then
>> declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
>>
>> That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
>> It's also undiplomatic.
>>
>> What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
>> NATO, WHO, NAFTA, etc.) that were win-win beneficial, he apparently only wanted to win if someone else lost.
>> Ditching those isn't quite a declaration of war, but it was certainly a tangled mess.
>
> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

Nobody sane likes Trump. He lies just as much as you do. His lies are
marginally more plausible - plausible enough to fool quite a few people,
which makes him more dangerous than you are, but no less unsavoury.


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Then by all means give us the benefit of your enviable sagacity and
tell me where I went wrong, then. Which particular fact did I
misunderstand, Bill?

>> I'm happy to disabuse you of your ignorance once again, Bill.
>
>The ignorance is all yours, coupled with some remarkably psychopathic
>misconceptions.

The psychopathy is all yours, dear boy.

>You need psychiatric care, probably of the kind that involves locking
>you in a padded cell and throwing away the key.

I have a hunch that a poll of s.e.d readers would take the opportunity
to do that to you rather than me, if the chance arose. You are by far
the most conspicuous and irritating troll on these newsgroups and have
been for many years now.

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On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 10:11:09 AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:28:44 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill....@ieee.org>
> wrote:

> >You do have a strange idea of what constitutes "evidence".

> Then by all means give us the benefit of your enviable sagacity and
> tell me where I went wrong, then. Which particular fact did I
> misunderstand...

When the cited 'evidence' as input yields a conclusion as output,
there is a mechanism in-between that connects those.
Usually that's a logical argument.

From Cursitor Doom, we get conclusions with no connection
to the input. A logical chain must connect, or it doesn't
hold. So, why should we expect understanding of a single fact to be
the missing link? There could be facts missing, or links: we can't
see any connection in the conclusion to any facts.

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> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:

> >> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> >> entanglements...
> >
> >How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
> >situation, though? He further complicated the situation
> >by declaring a terrorist organization and then
> >declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
> >
> >That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
> >It's also undiplomatic.
> >
> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,

> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
you think on that issue?

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> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
> terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely. He'd have
> thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
> on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers
> are always vilified, though.

That Trump seemed to realize it just means there's a low bar to entry on
that particular realization about war; it hardly takes a philosophical
genius to notice that it's the wealthy and privileged who almost always
reap the highest rewards, and the young, innocent and/or who poor pay
the highest costs.

Trump is certainly wealthy and privileged but is somewhat unusual among
the wealthy and privileged in that he has not much to gain from the kind
of foreign entanglements the US is currently sinking deeper into.

But other varieties of wealthy and privileged have definitely been of
the opinion for some time that some people are fit to rule, and others
are fit only to be ruled.

Hamas was foolish to give the Israeli government a "golden opportunity"
to push their own ideas about who should rule/be ruled to the maximum
extent. But it's likely that in time Israel will be shown to be foolish
to have taken them up on the offer. And it may not be long at all before
the Biden administration is shown to have been foolish to throw its
support behind the slaughter.

"And Britannia's huns, with their long range guns, sailed in through the
foggy dew."

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The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
baseless and worthy of only contempt. As for sacking the Ukrainian
ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
good one for doing it.
Roll on November!

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so unless you are a BS sock-puppet (whiich wouldn't surprise me) you
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> >> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:

> >> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
> >
> >> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

> >If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
> >then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
> >citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
> >you think on that issue?

> The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
> baseless and worthy of only contempt.

Unacceptable. Policy is important, and that IS A BASE from which
impeachment is entirely proper and honorable. A president who solicits
bribes in such a way is in violation of his oath of office.
Contempt is easy, for some.

> As for sacking the Ukrainian
> ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
> good one for doing it.

Prejudice, also, is an easy path to travel; no decision at any branch, just
follow the lead ant's pheromones.

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<c...@notformail.com> wrote in <genisitkakmmqr2h7...@4ax.com>:
Long ago I liked Reagan, no war, just common sense, some bluff (star-wars)..

As to Trump, he is jewish I think, and like that idiot israeli genocide committing war monger
the trumpo seems to think he can do anything he likes, violating any rule or law.
He has now been on trial or convicted for so many crimes
false value of properties, raping a women, keeping secret documents,
encouraging storming Capitol Hill etc etc
the list is long.
And I see a correlation between Trump's presidency and COVID
Trump started sanctioning China
Quite possible that Dr Faulty I think his name was
went to Trump after the DOD had marked his experiments with Bat viruses as too dangerous,
talked trump into having it done in China, to hurt China basically.
That backfired in a huge way.
And Faulty was made a star under trump's reign.
He should be sentenced to death by nitrogen or whatever they use these days.

De Santis is out, I do not like his stand on abortion..
Now Nicky Hailstorm, who has a jewish husband may well be the one to become president
in case trump is locked up for example.
Many years ago I heard her speaking at a UN meeting.
My thought, in that second, was "Here is WW3".

So and that republican party, its members teach kids earth was created 4000 years ago,
more shit, proposed Pi is 4 once, and deny any life outside earth
The Christian dogma religions, little kid abusers
was a product of the Roman empire to control people and has cost millions of lives in wars it created and people it
pursued as witches, so much anti-science crap
Life outside earth was detected by Dr Levin's experiment on the NASA Viking mission:
http://www.gillevin.com/
but what a challenge for them poor brainwashed Christian kids and their leaders who live on their pockets.
So NASA partly controlled by Repugblicans will never admit to life on other planets.,
And the jews worshipping Einstein's photon particle of light while even a blind man can see that is not correct.
Anti science club republicans are.

So where does that leave US?
An other Biden -> more war mongering, nuclear attack on Kiev perhaps
escalation..
Trump, now babbling about countries not paying enough for US weapons having them attacked by Russia,
Nicky Hailstorm who is very very dangerous in what she says
Last decent president was Obama.
I cannot vote in the US.. so...
Better join the preppers.
:-)



Anthony William Sloman

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On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 10:55:05 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:40:11 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >
> >> >> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> >> >> entanglements...
> >> >
> >> >How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
> >> >situation, though? He further complicated the situation
> >> >by declaring a terrorist organization and then
> >> >declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
> >> >
> >> >That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
> >> >It's also undiplomatic.
> >> >
> >> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
> >
> >> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?
> >
> >If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
> >then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
> >citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
> >you think on that issue?
>
> The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
> baseless and worthy of only contempt.

Trump was impeached for trying to blackmail Zelensky into setting up a fake investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden in order to help his 2020 election campaign.
His acquittal was entirely politically motivated - the Senate refused to even look at the evidence. Cursitor Doom's capacity to misinterpret the most obvious evidence as supporting his preferred version of events is bizarre. If one took him seriously it would be contemptible, but that would be taking him more seriously than he deserves.

> As for sacking the Ukrainian ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
> good one for doing it.

Of course you are. You do like fatuous conspiracy theories.

> Roll on November!

The US electorate didn't go for Trump in 2020. It seems unlikely that he will look any more electable in 2024.

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