pSpice raw file?

Colin A. Warwick

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Jan 13, 2002, 7:00:59 PM1/13/02

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Hi! Does anyone know if pSpice can be made to dump a rawspice.raw file? If
so how? (I have searched the docs and gotten no answer from tech support.)

Please cc: any reply by email Colin Warwick cwar...@ieee.org

Jim Thompson

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Jan 13, 2002, 7:22:19 PM1/13/02

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:00:59 GMT,
"Colin A. Warwick" <cwar...@home.com>,
In Newsgroup: sci.electronics.cad,
Article: <%cp08.337633$ez.48...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
Entitled: "pSpice raw file?",
Wrote the following:

|Hi! Does anyone know if pSpice can be made to dump a rawspice.raw file? If
|so how? (I have searched the docs and gotten no answer from tech support.)
|
|Please cc: any reply by email Colin Warwick cwar...@ieee.org
|

I vaguely remember hearing of a .RAW file. What is it?

...Jim Thompson
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Colin A. Warwick

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Jan 13, 2002, 8:52:18 PM1/13/02

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> I vaguely remember hearing of a .RAW file. What is it?
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Jim:

It is a machine readable (i.e. fixed format, ASCII output file that dumps
all the simulation data. It is used as input to post-simulation analysis
programs.

The format is...
1) six-line header
2)<No. Variables+1> lines of descriptions of variables
3)<No. Points * (No. Variables+1)+1> lines of data.
See example below.

In Berkeley Spice you could make one from the command line...

spice -r mycircuit.raw mycircuit.cir

or in the interactive mode with the command...

write mycircuit.raw all

-- Colin

example
------------ mycircuit.raw begin --- cut here -------------
Title: TRANSIENT RESPONSE OF A 3-STAGE LINEAR AMPLIFIER
Date: Wed Jan 09 16:29:08 2002
Plotname: transient
Flags: real
No. Variables: 3
No. Points: 101
Variables:
0 time time
1 v(1) voltage
2 v(2) voltage
3 v(3) voltage
Values:
0 0.000000000000000e+000
0.000000000000000e+000
0.000000000000000e+000

1 1.000000000000000e-004
6.283184893762572e-004
5.711986267056883e-004
.
.
.<snip>
------------ mycircuit.raw end --- cut here -------------

Jim Thompson

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Jan 13, 2002, 9:03:45 PM1/13/02

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:52:18 GMT,

"Colin A. Warwick" <cwar...@home.com>,
In Newsgroup: sci.electronics.cad,

Article: <mRq08.337939$ez.48...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
Entitled: "Re: pSpice raw file?",
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|> I vaguely remember hearing of a .RAW file. What is it?

Aha! Just use a .PRINT statement in PSpice, then examine the .OUT
file.

Gives you the old-fashioned 132-wide green and white output ;-)

Seriously, you can actually get the same data in a form useable by,
for example, Excel, by using the Edit/Copy command in the Probe
window.

Kevin A Aylward

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Jan 14, 2002, 2:54:29 AM1/14/02

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>Subject: Re: pSpice raw file?
>From: Jim Thompson Jim-T@analog_innovations.com
>Date: 14/01/2002 12:22 AM GMT Standard Time
>Message-id: <h4944us3l2t6p1js9...@4ax.com>

>
>On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:00:59 GMT,
>"Colin A. Warwick" <cwar...@home.com>,
>In Newsgroup: sci.electronics.cad,
>Article: <%cp08.337633$ez.48...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
>Entitled: "pSpice raw file?",
>Wrote the following:
>
>|Hi! Does anyone know if pSpice can be made to dump a rawspice.raw file? If
>|so how? (I have searched the docs and gotten no answer from tech support.)
>|
>|Please cc: any reply by email Colin Warwick cwar...@ieee.org
>|
>
>I vaguely remember hearing of a .RAW file. What is it?
>

Well,I'm amazed Jim, what with your age and that. Not knowing that the raw file
is the standard output format used by all Berkeley compatible spice's.

Kevin Aylward , Warden of the Kings Ale
ke...@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk - SuperSpice "Seriously...Why pay more?",
GUI xspice, an affordable mixed-mode Windows simulator
with Schematic Capture, waveform display, FFT's and Filter Design.

Colin A. Warwick

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Jan 14, 2002, 7:24:23 AM1/14/02

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> Seriously, you can actually get the same data in a form useable by,
> for example, Excel, by using the Edit/Copy command in the Probe
> window.
> ...Jim Thompson

Thanks for the suggestion, but the reason I need a .raw file is that I am
trying to automate pSpice (or any another spice) as a server to a
controlling program/client (MATLAB used as a system simulator). I am trying
to avoid manually copying and pasting a few thousand batch runs. The .out
files contain a lot of 'free format' stuff that is harder to write a parser
for. The .raw files are much cleaner. [Even better would be an Active X
Automation (or similar) method or property that would give the client
program direct access to the vectors.]

Jim Thompson

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Jan 14, 2002, 9:51:04 AM1/14/02

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On 14 Jan 2002 07:54:29 GMT,
kevina...@aol.com (Kevin A Aylward),
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Article: <20020114025429...@mb-fl.aol.com>,
Entitled: "Re: pSpice raw file?",
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Sheeesh! I last used Berkeley spice about 20 years ago.

Charles Edmondson

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Jan 14, 2002, 11:07:40 AM1/14/02

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"Colin A. Warwick" wrote:

Colin,
PSpice doesn't really support RAW, at least not that I know of, but it does
support CSDF, Common Simulation Data Format files, with a similiar format.
Was supposed to be a general purpose, inter-program data format that is
accepted by Matlab and Mathlab, IIRC.

Just go to the Probe options in the Simulation Profile.

Thanks,
Charlie
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Jim Thompson

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:52:18 GMT,

"Colin A. Warwick" <cwar...@home.com>,
In Newsgroup: sci.electronics.cad,

Article: <mRq08.337939$ez.48...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
Entitled: "Re: pSpice raw file?",
Wrote the following:

|> I vaguely remember hearing of a .RAW file. What is it?

[snip]

Colin, Here is what you get if you select Analysis/Probe Setup/Data
Collection/Text data file format (CSDF):

#H
SOURCE='PSPICE' VERSION='PSpice 9.2 (Mar 2001)'
TITLE='* D:\Projects\****\********.sch'
SUBTITLE='Step param VPP = .01 '
TIME='08:47:40' DATE='01/14/02' TEMPERATURE='7.000E01'
ANALYSIS='Transient Analysis' SERIALNO='1090******'
ALLVALUES='NO' COMPLEXVALUES='NO' NODES='203'
SWEEPVAR='Time' SWEEPMODE='VAR_STEP'
XBEGIN='0.000E00' XEND='5.000E-03'
FORMAT='0 VOLTSorAMPS;EFLOAT : NODEorBRANCH;NODE '
DGTLDATA='NO'
#N
'V(MN1:s)';'V(MN1:b)';'V(MN2:b)';'V(R7:2)';'V(I5:-)';'V(MN3:s)';'V(MN3:b)';'V(IM1:+)';'V(MN4:s)';'V(MN4:b)';'V(MN5:s)';'V(MN5:b)';'V(MP11:d)';
'V(MN6:s)';'V(MN6:b)';'V(V4:-)';'V(V1:+)';'V(G1:IN1+)';'V(G1:IN2+)';'V(L1:1)';'V(C2:2)';'V(R8:1)';'V(MN7:b)';'V(MN8:s)';'V(MN8:b)';'V(MN9:s)';
'V(MN9:b)';'V(R9:2)';'V(C3:1)';'V(MN10:b)';'V(C4:2)';'V(V2:+)';'V(C1:1)';'V(MN11:s)';'V(MN11:b)';'V(0)';'V2(C2)';'V1(C3)';'V2(C4)';'V1(C1)';
'V2(I5)';'V1(L1)';'VS(MN1)';'VB(MN1)';'VB(MN2)';'VS(MN3)';'VB(MN3)';'VS(MN4)';'VB(MN4)';'VS(MN5)';'VB(MN5)';'VD(MP11)';'VS(MN6)';'VB(MN6)';
'VB(MN7)';'VS(MN8)';'VB(MN8)';'VS(MN9)';'VB(MN9)';'VB(MN10)';'VS(MN11)';'VB(MN11)';'V2(R7)';'V1(R8)';'V2(R9)';'V1(IM1)';'V2(V4)';'V1(V1)';
'V1(V2)'
'V(MP13:g)';'V(MP14:d)';'V(MP14:g)';'V(MP16:s)';'V(MP16:b)';'V(N_22)';'VG(MP13)';'VD(MP14)';'VG(MP14)';'VS(MP16)';'VB(MP16)'
'V(MP13:d)';'V(MP15:s)';'V(MP15:b)';'V(N_23)';'VD(MP13)';'VS(MP15)';'VB(MP15)'
'V(MN10:d)';'V(MP15:g)';'V(MP16:d)';'V(MP16:g)';'V(N_21)';
'VD(MN10)';'VG(MP15)';'VD(MP16)';'VG(MP16)'
'V(R9:1)';'V(MN10:s)';'V(N_20)';'VS(MN10)';'V1(R9)'
'V(MP12:d)';'V(MN9:d)';'V(MN10:g)';'V(C4:1)';
'V(N_19)';'V1(C4)';'VD(MP12)';'VD(MN9)';'VG(MN10)'
'V(G1:IN2-)';'V(V2:-)';'V(N_18)';'V2(V2)'
'V(V1:-)';'V(G1:IN1-)';'V(N_17)';'V2(V1)'
'V(IM1:-)';'V(G1:OUT+)';'V(N_16)';'V1(G1)';'V2(IM1)'
'V(MN3:d)';'V(MP11:g)';'V(MN6:d)';'V(G1:OUT-)';'V(L1:2)';'V(C2:1)';'V(R8:2)';'V(N_15)';
'V1(C2)';'V2(G1)';'V2(L1)';'VD(MN3)';'VG(MP11)';'VD(MN6)';'V2(R8)'
'V(MN2:s)';'V(R7:1)';'V(MN7:s)';'V(N_14)';'VS(MN2)';'VS(MN7)';'V1(R7)'
'V(RAW)';'V(MN1:d)';'V(MN8:d)';'V(MN9:g)';'V(C3:2)';'V(MP15:d)';'V(MN11:g)';'V(RAW)';'V2(C3)';'VD(MN1)';'VD(MN8)';'VG(MN9)';'VD(MP15)';
'VG(MN11)'
'V(ALOGIC)';'V(MP10:d)';'V(MN11:d)';'V(ALOGIC)';'VD(MP10)';'VD(MN11)'
'V(MP5:s)';'V(MP5:b)';'V(MP6:s)';'V(MP6:b)';'V(MP7:s)';
'V(MP7:b)';'V(MP8:s)';'V(MP8:b)';'V(MP9:s)';'V(MP9:b)';'V(MP10:s)';'V(MP10:b)';'V(V4:+)';'V(MP12:s)';'V(MP12:b)';'V(MP13:s)';'V(MP13:b)';
'V(MP14:s)';'V(MP14:b)';'V(N_13)';'VS(MP5)';'VB(MP5)';'VS(MP6)';'VB(MP6)';'VS(MP7)';'VB(MP7)';'VS(MP8)';'VB(MP8)';'VS(MP9)';'VB(MP9)';'VS(MP10)';
'VB(MP10)';'VS(MP12)';'VB(MP12)';'VS(MP13)';'VB(MP13)';'VS(MP14)';'VB(MP14)';'V1(V4)'
'V(MP5:d)';'V(MP5:g)';'V(MP6:g)';'V(MP7:g)';'V(MP10:g)';
'V(I5:+)';'V(MP12:g)';'V(N_12)';'V1(I5)';'VD(MP5)';'VG(MP5)';'VG(MP6)';'VG(MP7)';'VG(MP10)';'VG(MP12)'
'V(MP4:g)';'V(MP6:d)';'V(MP11:s)';
'V(MP11:b)';'V(N_11)';'VG(MP4)';'VD(MP6)';'VS(MP11)';'VB(MP11)'
'V(R6:1)';'V(MP4:d)';'V(MN7:g)';'V(N_10)';'VD(MP4)';'VG(MN7)';'V1(R6)'
'V(MP3:s)';'V(MP3:b)';'V(MP4:s)';'V(MP4:b)';'V(MP7:d)';'V(N_9)';'VS(MP3)';'VB(MP3)';'VS(MP4)';'VB(MP4)';'VD(MP7)'
'V(MP2:s)';'V(MP2:b)';
'V(MP9:d)';'V(N_8)';'VS(MP2)';'VB(MP2)';'VD(MP9)'
'V(MP2:d)';'V(MP3:g)';'V(MN7:d)';'V(C1:2)';'V(N_7)';'V2(C1)';'VD(MP2)';'VG(MP3)';'VD(MN7)'
'V(MP1:s)';'V(MP1:b)';'V(MP8:d)';'V(MP8:g)';'V(MP9:g)';'V(N_6)';'VS(MP1)';'VB(MP1)';'VD(MP8)';'VG(MP8)';'VG(MP9)'
'V(MP1:d)';'V(MP1:g)';
'V(MP2:g)';'V(MN2:d)';'V(N_5)';'VD(MP1)';'VG(MP1)';'VG(MP2)';'VD(MN2)'
'V(R5:1)';'V(MP3:d)';'V(MN2:g)';'V(N_4)';'VD(MP3)';'VG(MN2)';'V1(R5)'
'V(R4:2)';'V(MN3:g)';'V(MN5:d)';'V(N_3)';'VG(MN3)';'VD(MN5)';'V2(R4)'
'V(B)';'V(R3:2)';'V(R4:1)';'V(R5:2)';'V(MN8:g)';'V(B)';'VG(MN8)';'V2(R3)';
'V1(R4)';'V2(R5)'
'V(R2:2)';'V(MN4:d)';'V(MN6:g)';'V(N_2)';'VD(MN4)';'VG(MN6)';'V2(R2)'
'V(R1:2)';'V(R3:1)';'V(MN4:g)';'V(MN5:g)';'V(N_1)';
'VG(MN4)';'VG(MN5)';'V2(R1)';'V1(R3)'
'V(A)';'V(R1:1)';'V(R2:1)';'V(R6:2)';'V(MN1:g)';'V(A)';'VG(MN1)';'V1(R1)';'V1(R2)';'V2(R6)'
'I(V2)' 'I(V1)'
'I(V4)' 'I(IM1)' 'I(R9)' 'I(R8)' 'I(R7)' 'I(R6)' 'I(R5)' 'I(R4)'
'I(R3)' 'I(R2)' 'I(R1)' 'I(L1)' 'I(I5)' 'I(C1)' 'I(C4)' 'I(C3)'
'I(C2)' 'I(G1)'
'IB(MN11)' 'IS(MN11)' 'IG(MN11)' 'ID(MN11)' 'IB(MP16)' 'IS(MP16)'
'IG(MP16)' 'ID(MP16)' 'IB(MP15)' 'IS(MP15)' 'IG(MP15)' 'ID(MP15)'
'IB(MP14)'
'IS(MP14)' 'IG(MP14)' 'ID(MP14)' 'IB(MP13)' 'IS(MP13)' 'IG(MP13)'
'ID(MP13)' 'IB(MN10)' 'IS(MN10)' 'IG(MN10)' 'ID(MN10)' 'IB(MN9)'
'IS(MN9)'
'IG(MN9)' 'ID(MN9)' 'IB(MP12)' 'IS(MP12)' 'IG(MP12)' 'ID(MP12)'
'IB(MN8)' 'IS(MN8)' 'IG(MN8)' 'ID(MN8)' 'IB(MN7)' 'IS(MN7)' 'IG(MN7)'
'ID(MN7)'
'IB(MN6)' 'IS(MN6)' 'IG(MN6)' 'ID(MN6)' 'IB(MP11)' 'IS(MP11)'
'IG(MP11)' 'ID(MP11)' 'IB(MN5)' 'IS(MN5)' 'IG(MN5)' 'ID(MN5)'
'IB(MN4)' 'IS(MN4)'
'IG(MN4)' 'ID(MN4)' 'IB(MN3)' 'IS(MN3)' 'IG(MN3)' 'ID(MN3)' 'IB(MN2)'
'IS(MN2)' 'IG(MN2)' 'ID(MN2)' 'IB(MN1)' 'IS(MN1)' 'IG(MN1)' 'ID(MN1)'
'IB(MP10)' 'IS(MP10)' 'IG(MP10)' 'ID(MP10)' 'IB(MP9)' 'IS(MP9)'
'IG(MP9)' 'ID(MP9)' 'IB(MP8)' 'IS(MP8)' 'IG(MP8)' 'ID(MP8)' 'IB(MP7)'
'IS(MP7)'
'IG(MP7)' 'ID(MP7)' 'IB(MP6)' 'IS(MP6)' 'IG(MP6)' 'ID(MP6)' 'IB(MP5)'
'IS(MP5)' 'IG(MP5)' 'ID(MP5)' 'IB(MP4)' 'IS(MP4)' 'IG(MP4)' 'ID(MP4)'
'IB(MP3)' 'IS(MP3)' 'IG(MP3)' 'ID(MP3)' 'IB(MP2)' 'IS(MP2)' 'IG(MP2)'
'ID(MP2)' 'IB(MP1)' 'IS(MP1)' 'IG(MP1)' 'ID(MP1)' 'W(V2)' 'W(V1)'
'W(V4)'
'W(IM1)' 'W(R9)' 'W(R8)' 'W(R7)' 'W(R6)' 'W(R5)' 'W(R4)' 'W(R3)'
'W(R2)' 'W(R1)' 'W(MN11)' 'W(MP16)' 'W(MP15)' 'W(MP14)' 'W(MP13)'
'W(MN10)'
'W(MN9)' 'W(MP12)' 'W(MN8)' 'W(MN7)' 'W(MN6)' 'W(MP11)' 'W(MN5)'
'W(MN4)' 'W(MN3)' 'W(MN2)' 'W(MN1)' 'W(MP10)' 'W(MP9)' 'W(MP8)'
'W(MP7)' 'W(MP6)'
'W(MP5)' 'W(MP4)' 'W(MP3)' 'W(MP2)' 'W(MP1)' 'W(L1)' 'W(I5)' 'W(G1)'
'W(C1)' 'W(C4)' 'W(C3)' 'W(C2)'
#C 0.0000000000E00 203
0.000E00:1 2.187E00:2 2.173E00:3 1.373E00:4 3.071E-01:5 9.625E-01:6
0.000E00:7 0.000E00:8 0.000E00:9 0.000E00:a 1.025E-01:b
4.027E-01:c 5.545E-02:d 3.000E00:e 2.152E00:f 8.291E-01:10
6.741E-01:11 1.641E00:12 2.199E00:13 8.296E-01:14 2.208E00:15
1.415E00:16 6.696E-01:17 4.362E-01:18 5.920E-01:19 4.401E-01:1a
5.939E-01:1b 5.959E-01:1c 0.000E00:1d 0.000E00:1e -2.493E-06:1f
0.000E00:20 1.994E-07:21 0.000E00:22 2.663E-07:23 4.064E-07:24
4.030E-07:25 4.046E-07:26 1.532E-09:27 4.049E-07:28 1.532E-09:29
-5.567E-30:2a 1.000E-07:2b 0.000E00:2c 0.000E00:2d 0.000E00:2e
0.000E00:2f 0.000E00:30 -1.122E-09:31 -1.034E-07:32 0.000E00:33
1.046E-07:34 1.068E-10:35 2.004E-07:36 0.000E00:37 -2.005E-07:38
4.311E-10:39 8.044E-07:3a 0.000E00:3b -8.048E-07:3c 1.068E-10:3d
2.004E-07:3e 0.000E00:3f -2.005E-07:40 4.274E-10:41 8.044E-07:42
0.000E00:43 -8.048E-07:44 -1.062E-09:45 -1.994E-07:46 0.000E00:47
2.005E-07:48 -1.061E-09:49 -1.016E-07:4a 0.000E00:4b 1.027E-07:4c
1.080E-10:4d 1.025E-07:4e 0.000E00:4f -1.027E-07:50
-2.655E-10:51 -3.874E-07:52 0.000E00:53 3.877E-07:54 -1.036E-09:55
-1.333E-07:56 0.000E00:57 1.343E-07:58 0.000E00:59 0.000E00:5a
0.000E00:5b 0.000E00:5c 5.383E-11:5d 1.029E-07:5e 0.000E00:5f
-1.029E-07:60 -2.655E-10:61 -4.043E-07:62 0.000E00:63 4.046E-07:64
-2.655E-10:65 -4.046E-07:66 0.000E00:67 4.049E-07:68 0.000E00:69
0.000E00:6a 0.000E00:6b 0.000E00:6c -1.037E-09:6d -1.330E-07:6e
0.000E00:6f 1.340E-07:70 -2.655E-10:71 -4.168E-07:72 0.000E00:73
4.171E-07:74 1.090E-10:75 1.045E-07:76 0.000E00:77 -1.046E-07:78
1.068E-10:79 1.342E-07:7a 0.000E00:7b -1.343E-07:7c 1.068E-10:7d
1.339E-07:7e 0.000E00:7f -1.340E-07:80 8.589E-10:81 8.086E-07:82
0.000E00:83 -8.094E-07:84 1.082E-10:85 1.028E-07:86 0.000E00:87
-1.029E-07:88 1.069E-10:89 9.990E-08:8a 0.000E00:8b -1.000E-07:8c
2.140E-10:8d 4.062E-07:8e 0.000E00:8f -4.064E-07:90 2.140E-10:91
4.028E-07:92 0.000E00:93 -4.030E-07:94 1.074E-10:95 1.342E-07:96
0.000E00:97 -1.343E-07:98 1.068E-10:99 1.339E-07:9a 0.000E00:9b
-1.340E-07:9c 0.000E00:9d 0.000E00:9e -7.480E-06:9f 0.000E00:a0
6.123E-08:a1 0.000E00:a2 2.730E-08:a3 3.179E-08:a4 3.127E-08:a5
6.302E-08:a6 3.011E-12:a7 6.310E-08:a8 3.011E-12:a9 5.798E-09:aa
1.631E-07:ab 1.425E-06:ac 1.631E-07:ad 6.653E-07:ae 2.141E-07:af
9.881E-08:b0 2.091E-07:b1 1.561E-07:b2 9.778E-08:b3 0.000E00:b4
8.534E-08:b5................

Colin A. Warwick

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"Charles Edmondson" <edmond...@ns.ieee.org> wrote in message
news:3C43024C...@ns.ieee.org...

> PSpice doesn't really support RAW, at least not that I know of, but it
does
> support CSDF, Common Simulation Data Format files, with a similiar format.
> Was supposed to be a general purpose, inter-program data format that is
> accepted by Matlab and Mathlab, IIRC.
>
> Just go to the Probe options in the Simulation Profile.

Thanks! That might work. I think I can reverse engineer the format, but do
you know of a formal spec of CSDF anywhere? I search at google.com but got
no useful hits.

Also, thanks to Kevin for a pointer to his xspice port to Windows, and its
batch mode capability
C:\> xspice -r mycircuit.raw -b mycircuit.cir

I'll evaluate several methods, and post a summary, if there is any interest.