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Jim Thompson

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:47:00 PM11/3/09
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Hee! Hee! Hee!

If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.

Talk about hope and change... ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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"A house divided against itself cannot stand,"

-Jesus, President Lincoln, President Johnson

Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama is about to prove it.

Martin Riddle

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> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>
> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>
> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
> --

VA & NJ, I'm happy for NJ. Finally real change.

Cheers


Oppie

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>
> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>
> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson

We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive (Westchester,
NY).
Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken by
dems.
One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the
courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me suspicious
but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A big write-in
campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the next week.
http://www.lohud.com/

Phil Hobbs

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:38:09 AM11/4/09
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Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

Jim Thompson

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:49:15 AM11/4/09
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:38:09 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>Oppie wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
>> message news:v3u1f5dir35ilp8aj...@4ax.com...
>>> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>>>
>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>
>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive
>> (Westchester, NY).
>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken
>> by dems.
>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the
>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me
>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A
>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the next
>> week.
>> http://www.lohud.com/
>
>Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
>ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Damn! That's about 3X what I pay. But things are starting to get
politically nasty around here... I foresee some upcoming "pick-up
truck" events ;-)



...Jim Thompson
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Obama says, "I AM NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!"

Joe Chisolm

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:50:27 AM11/4/09
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:38:09 -0500, Phil Hobbs wrote:

> Oppie wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
>> in message news:v3u1f5dir35ilp8aj...@4ax.com...
>>> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>>>
>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>
>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive
>> (Westchester, NY).
>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken
>> by dems.
>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the
>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me
>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A
>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the
>> next week.
>> http://www.lohud.com/
>
> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs

Move to Texas. $4.5k (most of it school district tax) for 12 acres
with house and barn and no state income tax. I could drop it
some if I put a couple of cows out back and took the ag exemption.

--
Joe Chisolm
Marble Falls, Tx.

amdx

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"Phil Hobbs" <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in message
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> Oppie wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
>> message news:v3u1f5dir35ilp8aj...@4ax.com...
>>> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>>>
>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>
>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive
>> (Westchester, NY).
>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken by
>> dems.
>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the
>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me
>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A
>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the next
>> week.
>> http://www.lohud.com/
>
> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>
My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your home, you
should
not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the rest of your
life)
Makes me mad just thinking about it!
Mike


Ecnerwal

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:31:15 PM11/4/09
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In article <NuSdnfY41tFpMGzX...@supernews.com>,

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.

Vote with your feet. 2.5K (like Joe, mostly school tax) for 8 acres and
a not quite complete "shop with living space" ("camp" per the the
assesors.) Somewhat less if I actually get to the point of living there
- currently paying the non-resident premium rate. About a 2 hour drive
from the commuter train if you need to hit NYC, or an hour from the
Amtrak more expensive version. Not the sort of thing you'd want to do
daily, but not too bad if you needed to get there once in a while,
though I rarely do.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

John Larkin

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Sales tax is the way to go. Exempt basics. Eliminate business taxes.
That way, people elect to pay tax when they buy stuff, and imports get
dinged just as hard as domestic products. And people have jobs and get
paid, so can afford to buy stuff.

John

amdx

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N.Fl. about 1/2 acre, 3br, 2bath $200.000 range.
Property taxes of $832 per year.
All of the sudden I feel blessed.
Did I mention 72 degrees 50% humidity.


Garberstreet Electronics

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:55:26 PM11/4/09
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"amdx" <am...@knology.net> wrote in message
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Read what you yourself wrote. You "pay for your home" and are then
taxed for the right to live on the property, or ground it sets on.

Check out rental costs on similar properties in the same area, and
then quit complaining and thank God that you have it so good.

Bill


Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:10:14 PM11/4/09
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:24:41 -0600, amdx wrote:
> "Phil Hobbs" <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in message
>> Oppie wrote:
>>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
>>> in message news:v3u1f5dir35ilp8aj...@4ax.com...
>>>> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>>>>
>>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>>
>>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>
>>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive
>>> (Westchester, NY).
>>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken
>>> by dems.
>>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the
>>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me
>>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A
>>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the
>>> next week.
>>> http://www.lohud.com/
>>
>> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
>> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>>
> My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your home, you
> should
> not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the rest of your
> life)
> Makes me mad just thinking about it!
>
A comparison of the Government vs. the "Mafia":
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/HIFF/

Cheers!
Rich

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:20:09 PM11/4/09
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:31:41 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:24:41 -0600, "amdx" <am...@knology.net> wrote:
>>"Phil Hobbs" <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in message
>>> Oppie wrote:
>>>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
>>>> in message news:v3u1f5dir35ilp8aj...@4ax.com...
>>>>> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive
>>>> (Westchester, NY).
>>>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken
>>>> by dems.
>>>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by
>>>> the courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me
>>>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties.
>>>> A big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the
>>>> next week.
>>>> http://www.lohud.com/
>>>
>>> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
>>> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>>>
>> My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your home, you
>>should
>>not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the rest of
>>your life)
>>Makes me mad just thinking about it!
>>
> Sales tax is the way to go. Exempt basics. Eliminate business taxes. That
> way, people elect to pay tax when they buy stuff, and imports get dinged
> just as hard as domestic products. And people have jobs and get paid, so
> can afford to buy stuff.
>
But call it a "purchase" tax, or maybe an "outgo" tax; there seems to be
an aversion to the term "sales" taxes.

And additional pluses - the bureaucrats will have to pay their "fair
share", along with the guys with all the loopholes.

Make ten million in "income," and you can hide it. Spend it on a ten
million dollar yacht, pay a million (or whatever) in purchase tax.

After all, every tax there is ultimately comes out of the pockets of
some working stiff - wanna "nail the rich"? Tax their expenditures.

Even tax clothing, except for _used_ clothing, like at thrift shops
and garage sales.

But hey, what's ten bucks tax on a $100.00 suit? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

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Garberstreet Electronics

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"flipper" <fli...@fish.net> wrote in message
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> The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying
> property taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.

Right now, I "thank God" for a place to live that I can afford,
regardless of whether what I pay helps defray the landlord's cost
to own the place or not.

Bill


Paul Hovnanian P.E.

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:27:32 PM11/4/09
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Jim Thompson wrote:

> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>
> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>
> Talk about hope and change... ;-)

But there's a message in the results of a few races.

Take a look at the New York 23rd district congressional race. Where the GOP
candidate wasn't judged to be "conservative enough" by the crackpot wing of
the party. So they* back a third party candidate, the GOP candidate drops
out and supports the Democratic candidate and the Dems win.

It appears as though the GOP 'core' is willing to drive off anyone socially
moderate, in spite of their fiscal responsibility or pro-business
positions. The GOP has been hijacked by nut cases from the trailer parks.

*'They' includes such noteworthy figures as Palin, Beck and Limbaugh.

--
Paul Hovnanian pa...@hovnanian.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have gnu, will travel.

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John Fields

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:49:52 -0600, flipper <fli...@fish.net> wrote:

>That's nice but the issue was taxes.

---
You've never seen a thread change streams in mid-horse???

JF

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Martin Riddle

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At least they'll be new trucks.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers>

Cheers


Jim Thompson

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Nov 4, 2009, 6:56:05 PM11/4/09
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Naaaaah! They'll be Ford F150's ;-)

Phil Hobbs

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It's sort of a long haul to Manhattan from there, though... ;)

StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:56:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>
>Naaaaah! They'll be Ford F150's ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson


Fords, AND their owners are retarded.

ehsjr

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Phil Hobbs wrote:
> Oppie wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
>> in message news:v3u1f5dir35ilp8aj...@4ax.com...
>>
>>> Hee! Hee! Hee!
>>>
>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>
>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>
>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive
>> (Westchester, NY).
>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken
>> by dems.
>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by
>> the courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me
>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties.
>> A big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the
>> next week.
>> http://www.lohud.com/
>
>
> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>

Probably more in Scaresdale or Larchmont or Rye - maybe others as
well. :-( But thank goodness we got rid of Spano.

Ed

Mycelium

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:20:09 -0800, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
<freed...@example.net> wrote:

>
>But hey, what's ten bucks tax on a $100.00 suit? ;-)


I pay $20 tax on a $200 suit in this town already. That is AFTER I
already paid #0% tax on the income that left me with the $200 to buy the
suit with.

Mycelium

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:30 -0600, flipper <fli...@fish.net> wrote:

>
>The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying property
>taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.


Renters are the most ripped off citizens this country has ever had.
ESPECIALLY now.

Property owners that let out their properties, and developers that make
apt complexes they then fail to maintain worth a fuck are the biggest
thieves in the country.

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John Fields

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:00:51 -0600, flipper <fli...@fish.net> wrote:

>Yes, I have but when one begins with "read what you yourself wrote
>(about taxes)" followed by "quit complaining" then they're talking
>about taxes too regardless of doing a zippity do da whirligig around
>it.
>
>To wit, if taxes were lower then more people might "thank God" they
>could afford a home or spend less on rent, like maybe enough to send
>their kid(s) to college, and if taxes were higher more people might
>'thank God' they can't afford a home or pay more for rent, like maybe
>so much they can't afford to send their kid(s) to college.
>
>I just find the "thank God" government hasn't taxed you out of house
>and home yet, so quit complaining, to be a specious argument. Taxes
>are an unfortunate necessity (the degree of which being debatable),
>not something to be 'prized' and sought after, Gomez Addams (Season 2,
>Episode 5) notwithstanding.

---
Actually, it should be: "I just find the: "thank God government hasn't
taxed you out of house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be a
specious argument."

Even better: "I just find: "thank God government hasn't taxed you out of
house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be a specious argument.

The best, I think, would be: "I just find: "Thank God the government
hasn't taxed you out of house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be
a specious argument."

JF

Oppie

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"Phil Hobbs" <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in message
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>
> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs

Did you see Phil Reisman's column in the morning paper on the Spano -
Astorino battle for county exec? I love his columns and this was another
time I laughed my arse off.
"http://www.lohud.com/article/20091105/COLUMNIST08/911050348/1010/Angry%20voters%20make%20a%20monkey%20out%20of%20Spano"

As a fellow westchester-ite, I feel your pain. In White Plains, 'Boss' Bill
Ryan was on our ballot. So far it's a pretty close race with Hyland. No love
lost if Ryan looses <grin>.

Robert Oppenheimer

PeterD

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:26:41 -0800, Mycelium
<myce...@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:30 -0600, flipper <fli...@fish.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying property
>>taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
>
>
> Renters are the most ripped off citizens this country has ever had.
>ESPECIALLY now.
>

Care to explain?

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amdx

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Bill, I don't get your point, my wife and I have had a lower middle
income, we lived frugally and saved our money. I know people
that made a lot more money but have a lot less, that's there problem not
mine.
Why should I check rental prices, I own my home. But I have to keep paying
the government, and so do you, if you rent.
I'll complain if I want, and thank who or whatever I want.

Cash for clunkers;
What a stupid idea, made a blip in sales and a downturn after demand was
used up,
now you have to pay more for a used car cause they destroyed 600,000 cars.

Stimulus money;
Seems what has been spent has went into making more (saving) government
jobs.
That's just what we need! (sarcasm)

Bailing out GM;
I mean paying the union for votes.
The investors should have gotten paid not the union.
They should have went bankrupt, and reduced their cost of production.

Welfare;
I know a healthy adult male useing food stamps.
Did I mention he also has a camera phone that has texting and
an internet connection.

I'd like to continue but I need to do some work.
Somebody's got to do it.

Ahhh! Mike


Mycelium

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It is pretty blatantly obvious. Unless you are a total retard, you
shouldn't need an explanation.

Mycelium

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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:48:16 -0600, flipper <fli...@fish.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:26:41 -0800, Mycelium
><myce...@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> wrote:
>

>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:30 -0600, flipper <fli...@fish.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying property
>>>taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
>>
>>
>> Renters are the most ripped off citizens this country has ever had.
>>ESPECIALLY now.
>

>And what did Obama do to renters he hasn't done to everyone else?

Who said anything about Obama in my post. I am talking about since the
sixties. Property developers have been sucking away Americans' wallets
for decades. Simple observation of the graphs tells all.

What graphs, you ask? Look at wages over the DOT job list table from
the 50s through the new millennia, and look at other things like water
and sewage, and trash hauling and DOCTOR WAGES and RENT rates, etc. etc.
etc.

When I graduated from high school in '78, the guys that graduated the
year before and the year before paid like $250 a month for a 2 br
apartment, AND they were able to sock away $100 a week, AND the gas and
electric was only about $12 a month. THAT was back when $100 was a LOT of
money.

THAT was just from one week's pay. There were three more after that.

My dad paid less than a week's pay for the mortgage on a 5 br house,
and there were three weeks left for mom to buy 7 bags or more full of
groceries with, and sock away a bunch for weekends in Indiana, and
Christmas, etc.

Now, a "landlord" gets over 3 weeks pay a month from one of these kids,
and the gas and electric gets the rest, and there is hardly anything left
for food.

It is OK though, since most of today's gang boy retard kids are all on
Meth.

>> Property owners that let out their properties, and developers that make
>>apt complexes they then fail to maintain worth a fuck are the biggest
>>thieves in the country.
>

>Thieves come in all shapes and sizes but I agree, landlords should
>maintain the property.

You should do stand up.

I have seen outlets that will not even hold a plug, and outlets that
would not accept a three-wire due to having a pin broke off in it. 1/2
inch gaps under entry doors with no storm door. Wall mounted heating
units that have had their gratings painted with house enamel that caught
fire when the unit was first used, and put cyanide gas throughout the
room for days on end, when high temp, baked-on enamel is what should have
been used.

Also, if one mentions any such item, it certainly gets upgraded, at
minimal/minimized cost and quality (towel rods that bend when a fly
lights on them, etc), the upgrade includes a rent increase that insures
that the cost gets covered several times over and beyond.

The high rent coffers are what they are supposed to use to do any
maintenance from, and it NOT "jack the rent". Every little excuse.

The main one is the bastard thinking he deserves a new Cadillac every
other year, and that I should pay for it.

THEY are who deserves a depressed economy. THEY are the ones that
should be rent controlled, or be forced to put back some of what WE give.

Fuck the lawyers... Kill the fucking landlords.

>On the other hand, I take it you've never let out a property to see it
>virtually destroyed by the suddenly vanished never to be seen again
>renters.

Any retard that doesn't vet his or her proposed tenant deserves whatever
he or she gets. Also, that is what the security deposit, which can be 2X
the rent, is for.


Also, renting for a reasonable rate will usually result in civil
relationships between lessor and lessee.

>As I said, thieves come in all shapes and sizes.

I think all you stupid allegory turkeys are... turkeys. There is
something you steal. Mainly- thinking that you are funny, when such is
not always the case, and in many cases, if ever.

robb

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"amdx" <am...@knology.net> wrote in message
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>
> My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your
home, you
> should
> not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the
rest of your
> life)
> Makes me mad just thinking about it!
> Mike
>

i like to think of it as land rental.
an effective gov. method of reminding people they do not really
own the land they are just renting it, seeing as they can evict
you from it whether your home owner member ship fee is paid for
fully or not.

robb

UltimatePatriot

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HOAs are yet another rip off of the American people.

don

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Its not rental, it a fee to keep the rif-raf out of your property.

Its cheaper then hiring a private security company.
Its cheaper then hiring a private fire department.

And there is no competition to drive the price up.

don

robb

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<don> wrote in message
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isn't that called extortion ?

the prices go up all the time. The gov was blinded, greedly
watching the value of the homes rise during the bubble to raise
the rent accordingly.

the *customer* quickly becomes the rif-raf if they can not pay

robb

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:37:26 PM11/9/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:13:14 -0700, don wrote:
> robb wrote:
>> "amdx" <am...@knology.net> wrote in message
>> news:30f63$4af1b8dd$d8baf3ed$81...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>> My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your
>> home, you
>>> should
>>> not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the
>> rest of your
>>> life)
>>> Makes me mad just thinking about it!
>>>
>> i like to think of it as land rental. an effective gov. method of
>> reminding people they do not really own the land they are just renting
>> it, seeing as they can evict you from it whether your home owner member
>> ship fee is paid for fully or not.
>>
> Its not rental, it a fee to keep the rif-raf out of your property.
>
> Its cheaper then hiring a private security company. Its cheaper then
> hiring a private fire department.
>
> And there is no competition to drive the price up.

In this day and age, how can there be people who don't grasp the simple
fact that competition drives prices _DOWN_?

Of course, all sane people know that taxation is theft.

Thanks,
Rich

dagmarg...@yahoo.com

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On Nov 4, 5:48 pm, "amdx" <a...@knology.net> wrote:
> "Garberstreet Electronics" wrote:

Ad in seen in two local papers: "Get food stamps? Get a free cell
phone!" From a govm't agency--think it was Health and Human Services.

True story.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

Joel Koltner

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<dagmarg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ad in seen in two local papers: "Get food stamps? Get a free cell
> phone!" From a govm't agency--think it was Health and Human Services.

The well-intentioned reasoning behind that is that it's probably a lot easier
to get a job if you have a cell phone.

How many of those receiving food stamps are good folks who are "down on their
luck" vs. welfare kings and queens is, of course, an eternal debate, so it's
difficult to ascertain how useful such a program really is.

Cell phones are the next best thing to free these days anyway for the basic
models -- it's the montly cost that will get you: It's difficult to find plans
that are less than $30-$40/month, which is still a significant chunk of change
to some people.


Michael A. Terrell

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Its an extension of the old 'Lifeline phone service' program. That is
basic, local only service for under $15 a month. It doesn't include any
options, and if you want anything added, you can't get 'Lifeline'. What
they do is waive all the federal & state taxes on basic local phone
service. Here in Florida, that brings the price down to about $12.50 a
month so you can make local calls, call your doctor or 911. The limited
cell phone service isn't much better.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

Jim Thompson

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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:18:49 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireD...@yahoo.com> wrote:

><dagmarg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c9a8b900-3812-44e2...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> Ad in seen in two local papers: "Get food stamps? Get a free cell
>> phone!" From a govm't agency--think it was Health and Human Services.
>
>The well-intentioned reasoning behind that is that it's probably a lot easier
>to get a job if you have a cell phone.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

>
>How many of those receiving food stamps are good folks who are "down on their
>luck" vs. welfare kings and queens is, of course, an eternal debate, so it's
>difficult to ascertain how useful such a program really is.
>
>Cell phones are the next best thing to free these days anyway for the basic
>models -- it's the montly cost that will get you: It's difficult to find plans
>that are less than $30-$40/month, which is still a significant chunk of change
>to some people.
>

...Jim Thompson
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GO GREEN!
Recycle Congress
In 2010

Joel Koltner

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:35:16 PM11/9/09
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Thanks Michael, I didn't know there was such a service available (for POTS nor
cell phones).

---Joel


Joel Koltner

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message
> "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

So I've heard.

But we all know you're a very charitable guy, Jim, you're just very choosy
about who you donate money to! :-)


Jim Thompson

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I donate to food banks, and non-profits that employ handicapped
persons and disable veterans.

I resent leftist weenies dictating donating my income to leftist
weenie causes.



...Jim Thompson
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Liberal, Leftist and Democrat are polite aphorisms for YELLOW.

Joel Koltner

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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> I donate to food banks, and non-profits that employ handicapped
> persons and disable veterans.

That's commendable.

> I resent leftist weenies dictating donating my income to leftist
> weenie causes.

Understood. Some of those leftist-weenies probably figure that the military
should be funded via donations though! (I'm sure you've seen the bumper
stickers that espouse how it'll be a great day when schools get all the money
they need and the military has to hold a bake sale... :-( Not that education
isn't important, but geez, how out of touch can they be...)

Semi-democracy is most annoying at times...

Michael A. Terrell

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Indeed. That would lead to a situation like Iraq, where the military
commandeered school buildings.


> Semi-democracy is most annoying at times...


Almost as annoying as the semi intellegent types that come up with
those hare brain ideas. :(

krw

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Yeah, he donates it his favorite charity, the IRS.

Jim Thompson

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Ain't that the truth :-(

Although, in this downturn, I've been scraping by on my retirement
income, and essentially zero tax... which probably infuriates the
leftist weenies no end ;-)



...Jim Thompson
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Liberal, Leftist and Democrat are polite aphorisms for YELLOW.

krw

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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:39:00 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:27:27 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:37:45 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
>><zapwireD...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
>>>message
>>>> "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
>>>
>>>So I've heard.
>>>
>>>But we all know you're a very charitable guy, Jim, you're just very choosy
>>>about who you donate money to! :-)
>>
>>Yeah, he donates it his favorite charity, the IRS.
>
>Ain't that the truth :-(
>
>Although, in this downturn, I've been scraping by on my retirement
>income, and essentially zero tax... which probably infuriates the
>leftist weenies no end ;-)

Not working? ...or are you already off-shore. ;-)

Jim Thompson

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All of my earned income is now off-shore. So I need to sit down with
my attorneys and figure out how to play it.



...Jim Thompson
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Obama thinks the term "bully pulpit" actually means "pulpit bully"

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