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Jim Thompson
May 11, 2013, 12:34:02 PM5/11/13
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"Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
Americans
By William Teach May 11, 2013 � 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
(Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
(.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
�photo tool,� a massive federal database administered by the
Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
driver�s license or other state-issued photo ID.
Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
database to verify that they match their photo."
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Americans
By William Teach May 11, 2013 � 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
(Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
(.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
�photo tool,� a massive federal database administered by the
Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
driver�s license or other state-issued photo ID.
Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
database to verify that they match their photo."
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
amdx
May 11, 2013, 2:58:40 PM5/11/13
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On 5/11/2013 11:34 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
> Americans
>
> By William Teach May 11, 2013 � 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
> Americans
>
>
> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>
> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>
> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
> �photo tool,� a massive federal database administered by the
> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>
> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>
> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
> Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
> driver�s license or other state-issued photo ID.
> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>
> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
> database to verify that they match their photo."
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>
THE END IS NEAR.
> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
> database to verify that they match their photo."
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>
Mikek
Jim Thompson
May 11, 2013, 3:00:33 PM5/11/13
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On Sat, 11 May 2013 13:58:40 -0500, amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:
>On 5/11/2013 11:34 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>> Americans
>>
>> By William Teach May 11, 2013 – 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
>On 5/11/2013 11:34 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>> Americans
>>
>>
>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>
>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>
>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>> “photo tool,” a massive federal database administered by the
>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>
>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>
>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>> Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>> driver’s license or other state-issued photo ID.
>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>>
>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>
> THE END IS NEAR.
>
> Mikek
Elections have consequences >:-}
>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>
> THE END IS NEAR.
>
> Mikek
hamilton
May 11, 2013, 3:01:44 PM5/11/13
to
On 5/11/2013 1:00 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> Elections have consequences >:-}
>
I don't see the Republicans changing this.
>
> Elections have consequences >:-}
>
I don't see the Republicans changing this.
Jamie M
May 11, 2013, 3:25:29 PM5/11/13
to
On 5/11/2013 12:00 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 13:58:40 -0500, amdx<am...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/2013 11:34 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>>> Americans
>>>
>>> By William Teach May 11, 2013 � 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 13:58:40 -0500, amdx<am...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/2013 11:34 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>>> Americans
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>>
>>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>>
>>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>>> �photo tool,� a massive federal database administered by the
>>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>>
>>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>>
>>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>>> Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
>>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>>> driver�s license or other state-issued photo ID.
>>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>>>
>>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>>
>> THE END IS NEAR.
>>
>> Mikek
>
> Elections have consequences>:-}
You approve of that system being installed right? Last time I was
>>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>>
>> THE END IS NEAR.
>>
>> Mikek
>
> Elections have consequences>:-}
complaining about driver license pictures going into a facial
recognition database here in Canada you said its a good way to round up
the leftist weenies or something to that effect. Maybe you're worried
about this new system being used to round up the rightist weenies ;)
cheers,
Jamie
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Ian Field
May 11, 2013, 4:11:28 PM5/11/13
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P E Schoen
May 11, 2013, 8:59:08 PM5/11/13
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"Ian Field" wrote in message news:CBxjt.10851$5A1....@fx31.fr7...
expected to have true privacy is within your own home, on your own land, or
out on the trail in the wilderness. And that privacy should be sacred to the
point that you should be able to grow and smoke your own weed, or make your
own alcohol or hashish or whatever floats your boat, and be able to shoot
anyone who aggressively invades your "castle" with the clear intent of
physical harm to yourself or your possessions.
Outside of those circumstances, you are sharing common ground with other
citizens when you appear in public or use various publicly shared and
supported provisions such as the electrical grid, highways, libraries, phone
system, internet, or USPS, so it seems reasonable that those who are charged
with maintaining access and security of those systems should have the means
to do so.
It was fortunate that there was so much surveillance as well as personal
cameras at the Boston Marathon to allow law enforcement officials to
identify and capture the culprits quickly. An accurate and extensive
database of physical features, including dental records and DNA, would allow
the quick exclusion of certain people and the rapid determination of guilty
parties. If I do not commit crimes, I should have nothing to fear from
accurate identification. It's the career criminals and felons and
sociopathic deviants who scream (through their lawyers) about invasion of
privacy and technicalities that allow them to "get off" when they are
clearly guilty, so they can immediately rejoin their gangs and do harm to
more people.
Hey, it's a "Brave New World", and it's not that bad if you are a good
person and can get along with normal and even pleasantly eccentric other
people. Only crusty old curmudgeons living in a spiritually empty,
materialistic world, have anything to fear. But the "new world order" is
really a liberation from the chains of capitalistic deception, and
acceptance of the very best of what true Christianity and other peaceful
religions have been trying to promote for millennia.
Paul
>> You approve of that system being installed right? Last time I was
>> complaining about driver license pictures going into a facial recognition
>> database here in Canada you said its a good way to round up the leftist
>> weenies or something to that effect. Maybe you're worried about this new
>> system being used to round up the rightist weenies ;)
> ...............or even loonatic fringe right wing extremists.
I don't see what's wrong with such a database. The only place you may be
>> complaining about driver license pictures going into a facial recognition
>> database here in Canada you said its a good way to round up the leftist
>> weenies or something to that effect. Maybe you're worried about this new
>> system being used to round up the rightist weenies ;)
> ...............or even loonatic fringe right wing extremists.
expected to have true privacy is within your own home, on your own land, or
out on the trail in the wilderness. And that privacy should be sacred to the
point that you should be able to grow and smoke your own weed, or make your
own alcohol or hashish or whatever floats your boat, and be able to shoot
anyone who aggressively invades your "castle" with the clear intent of
physical harm to yourself or your possessions.
Outside of those circumstances, you are sharing common ground with other
citizens when you appear in public or use various publicly shared and
supported provisions such as the electrical grid, highways, libraries, phone
system, internet, or USPS, so it seems reasonable that those who are charged
with maintaining access and security of those systems should have the means
to do so.
It was fortunate that there was so much surveillance as well as personal
cameras at the Boston Marathon to allow law enforcement officials to
identify and capture the culprits quickly. An accurate and extensive
database of physical features, including dental records and DNA, would allow
the quick exclusion of certain people and the rapid determination of guilty
parties. If I do not commit crimes, I should have nothing to fear from
accurate identification. It's the career criminals and felons and
sociopathic deviants who scream (through their lawyers) about invasion of
privacy and technicalities that allow them to "get off" when they are
clearly guilty, so they can immediately rejoin their gangs and do harm to
more people.
Hey, it's a "Brave New World", and it's not that bad if you are a good
person and can get along with normal and even pleasantly eccentric other
people. Only crusty old curmudgeons living in a spiritually empty,
materialistic world, have anything to fear. But the "new world order" is
really a liberation from the chains of capitalistic deception, and
acceptance of the very best of what true Christianity and other peaceful
religions have been trying to promote for millennia.
Paul
Tom Biasi
May 11, 2013, 9:24:26 PM5/11/13
to
my children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and those that follow.
Robert Baer
May 11, 2013, 11:17:46 PM5/11/13
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Jim Thompson wrote:
> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
> Americans
>
> By William Teach May 11, 2013 � 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
> Americans
>
>
> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>
> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>
> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
> �photo tool,� a massive federal database administered by the
> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>
> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>
> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
> Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
> driver�s license or other state-issued photo ID.
> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>
> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
> database to verify that they match their photo."
>
> ...Jim Thompson
...you mean that i no longer can masquerade as a wetback to get free
> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
> database to verify that they match their photo."
>
> ...Jim Thompson
benefits like 100% hospitalization, free car with no drivers license
needed, welfare payments, food and housing?
Robert Baer
May 11, 2013, 11:19:20 PM5/11/13
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Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 13:58:40 -0500, amdx<am...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/2013 11:34 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>>> Americans
>>>
>>> By William Teach May 11, 2013 � 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 13:58:40 -0500, amdx<am...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/2013 11:34 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>>> Americans
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>>
>>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>>
>>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>>> �photo tool,� a massive federal database administered by the
>>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>>
>>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>>
>>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>>> Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
>>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>>> driver�s license or other state-issued photo ID.
>>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>>>
>>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>>
>> THE END IS NEAR.
>>
>> Mikek
>
> Elections have consequences>:-}
>
> ...Jim Thompson
YES; you may elect a worse crook.
>>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>
>>
>> THE END IS NEAR.
>>
>> Mikek
>
> Elections have consequences>:-}
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Jim Thompson
May 11, 2013, 11:30:30 PM5/11/13
to
On Sat, 11 May 2013 19:17:46 -0800, Robert Baer
<rober...@localnet.com> wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>> Americans
>>
>> By William Teach May 11, 2013 � 7:43 am http://tinyurl.com/396svf
<rober...@localnet.com> wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> "Immigration Bill Mandates Biometric Information On All Adult
>> Americans
>>
>>
>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>
>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>
>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>> �photo tool,� a massive federal database administered by the
>> Everyone should Tweet Marco Rubio and ask him what this is all about
>>
>> (Wired) The immigration reform measure the Senate began debating
>> yesterday would create a national biometric database of virtually
>> every adult in the U.S., in what privacy groups fear could be the
>> first step to a ubiquitous national identification system.
>>
>> Buried in the more than 800 pages of the bipartisan legislation
>> (.pdf) is language mandating the creation of the innocuously-named
>> Department of Homeland Security and containing names, ages, Social
>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>> driver�s license or other state-issued photo ID.
>> Security numbers and photographs of everyone in the country with a
>>
>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>...you mean that i no longer can masquerade as a wetback to get free
>benefits like 100% hospitalization, free car with no drivers license
>needed, welfare payments, food and housing?
Learn Spanish, or, better yet, Esperanto ;-)
>> Employers would be obliged to look up every new hire in the
>> database to verify that they match their photo."
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>...you mean that i no longer can masquerade as a wetback to get free
>benefits like 100% hospitalization, free car with no drivers license
>needed, welfare payments, food and housing?
Darken your skin with tea and you're home free >:-}
dagmarg...@yahoo.com
May 12, 2013, 1:27:00 AM5/12/13
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On May 11, 7:59 pm, "P E Schoen" <p...@peschoen.com> wrote:
> "Ian Field" wrote in messagenews:CBxjt.10851$5A1....@fx31.fr7...
> > "Jamie M" <jmor...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> "Ian Field" wrote in messagenews:CBxjt.10851$5A1....@fx31.fr7...
> >news:kmm5v9$kl0$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
> >> You approve of that system being installed right? Last time I was
> >> complaining about driver license pictures going into a facial recognition
> >> database here in Canada you said its a good way to round up the leftist
> >> weenies or something to that effect. Maybe you're worried about this new
> >> system being used to round up the rightist weenies ;)
> > ...............or even loonatic fringe right wing extremists.
>
> I don't see what's wrong with such a database. The only place you may be
> expected to have true privacy is within your own home, on your own land, or
> out on the trail in the wilderness. And that privacy should be sacred to the
> point that you should be able to grow and smoke your own weed, or make your
> own alcohol or hashish or whatever floats your boat, and be able to shoot
> anyone who aggressively invades your "castle" with the clear intent of
> physical harm to yourself or your possessions.
You should have the right to privacy in your own house, except that
> >> You approve of that system being installed right? Last time I was
> >> complaining about driver license pictures going into a facial recognition
> >> database here in Canada you said its a good way to round up the leftist
> >> weenies or something to that effect. Maybe you're worried about this new
> >> system being used to round up the rightist weenies ;)
> > ...............or even loonatic fringe right wing extremists.
>
> I don't see what's wrong with such a database. The only place you may be
> expected to have true privacy is within your own home, on your own land, or
> out on the trail in the wilderness. And that privacy should be sacred to the
> point that you should be able to grow and smoke your own weed, or make your
> own alcohol or hashish or whatever floats your boat, and be able to shoot
> anyone who aggressively invades your "castle" with the clear intent of
> physical harm to yourself or your possessions.
the government should be able to access each and every record you
might have in it, tax, financial, medical records[1], social contacts,
physical movements[2]; peer into your body and under your clothes, and
investigate or outright harass, intimidate, and persecute anyone who
disagrees. Or Jews, for instance.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/348013/irs-inquisition-update
Government is made of nice people who are better, and do the right
thing.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-apologizes-targeting-conservative-groups
Freedom is vital to the government--they need more...it's for the
common good.
[1] All tracked by Obamacare exchanges, plus more.
[2] http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/17/your-cellphone-is-spying-on-you
[3] http://investmentwatchblog.com/irs-now-tracking-credit-card-purchases-and-face-book-emails/
--
Cheers,
James Arthur
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