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Soldering Copper to Phosphor Bronze

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Searcher7

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May 29, 2011, 12:37:59 AM5/29/11
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Does anyone know if soldering copper wire to Phosphor-Bronze make a
solid and reliable electrical connection?

Would it make much of a difference if the copper wire is stranded or
solid?

If there is a better wire material for this or any problems I should
watch out for I'd appreciate it. (I'm only concerned about getting the
best permanent connection possible).

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Terminal Crazy

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May 29, 2011, 4:28:28 AM5/29/11
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Searcher7 <Sear...@mail.con2.com> wrote:
> If there is a better wire material for this or any problems I should
> watch out for I'd appreciate it. (I'm only concerned about getting the
> best permanent connection possible).

I've no idea on Soldering it, i'd guess not but never tried.

Could you not 'pin' on a round terminal with a screw or bolt?

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Globemaker

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May 29, 2011, 5:37:35 AM5/29/11
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I never tried that, but what I would do is try it on a text section
first. Silver solder and solder should be tried. The criterion of
"solid" can be evaluated by a visual inspection and with a microscope.
The criterion of "reliable" can be tested during a 1000 hour burn-in
using an intermittent bath of salt water. Then it can be examined for
corrosion rates compared to simultaneous evaluation of a control group
of solder connections using more standard materials. My guess is yes,
the solder connexion will be solid and reliable with solder or silver
solder. What is the percentage of phosphorus in the bronze? Copper can
be soldered easily with or without stranding.

Jasen Betts

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May 29, 2011, 8:35:36 AM5/29/11
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On 2011-05-29, Searcher7 <Sear...@mail.con2.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know if soldering copper wire to Phosphor-Bronze make a
> solid and reliable electrical connection?

It should be about as good as anything, eg: they soldered the wires to
the P-B contact springs in old-style telephone relays.

> Would it make much of a difference if the copper wire is stranded or
> solid?

not much difference

> If there is a better wire material for this or any problems I should
> watch out for I'd appreciate it. (I'm only concerned about getting the
> best permanent connection possible).

haye you considered spot-welding instead of soldering

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John Fields

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May 29, 2011, 9:11:27 AM5/29/11
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On Sat, 28 May 2011 21:37:59 -0700 (PDT), Searcher7
<Sear...@mail.con2.com> wrote:

>Does anyone know if soldering copper wire to Phosphor-Bronze make a
>solid and reliable electrical connection?

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From:

http://www.anchorbronze.com/c51000.htm

Suitability for being joined by: Soldering | Excellent
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>Would it make much of a difference if the copper wire is stranded or
>solid?

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If there is to be no relative motion between the copper wire and the
phosphor bronze article, no.
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>If there is a better wire material for this or any problems I should
>watch out for I'd appreciate it. (I'm only concerned about getting the
>best permanent connection possible).
>
>Thanks.
>
>Darren Harris
>Staten Island, New York.

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Ecnerwal

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May 29, 2011, 12:15:23 PM5/29/11
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>If there is a better wire material for this or any problems I should
>watch out for I'd appreciate it. (I'm only concerned about getting the
>best permanent connection possible).


Soldering should work fine. Welding/brazing might be a touch better, but
not in practical terms if the soldering is done correctly.

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Winston

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May 29, 2011, 4:00:59 PM5/29/11
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Ecnerwal wrote:
>> If there is a better wire material for this or any problems I should
>> watch out for I'd appreciate it. (I'm only concerned about getting the
>> best permanent connection possible).
>
>
> Soldering should work fine. Welding/brazing might be a touch better, but
> not in practical terms if the soldering is done correctly.

Requires a largish *lap* joint, scrupulous cleanliness, degreasing,
plenty of flux and nearly too much heat.
No butt, corner or tee joints allowed.

http://www.efunda.com/processes/metal_processing/images/weld_joints.gif

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George Herold

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May 29, 2011, 8:20:18 PM5/29/11
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On May 29, 12:37 am, Searcher7 <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote:

No problem with 40/60 tin lead solder and rosin flux.

George H.

Searcher7

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Jun 18, 2011, 9:09:37 PM6/18/11
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On May 29, 5:20 pm, George Herold <gher...@teachspin.com> wrote:

Ok,

Thanks everyone.

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