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688...@mcimail.com

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
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Is is possible to use the 3 pin output of a 555 monostable circuit as the
5v 8 pin input of another 555 astable circuit (e.g., the first 555 is triggered
by a pulse on pin 2, the output on pin 3 goes for, say, 3 secs--therefore,
the second 555 has power for 3 seconds, and will sound its 440hz tone
for three seconds.)

I'm trying to get a predetermined tone and tone length off a short pulse. Is
there a better way to do this?

Drew Oliver

Alan R. Winstanley

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
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In article <4p6pvp$r...@dub-news-svc-6.compuserve.com>,
688...@mcimail.com writes

If you want to build a tone burst generator, with one 555 acting as a 3
second timer to drive another one, acting as an audio oscillator, then a
neater way may be to use a twin timer (556).

Output of first 556 (monostable) timer (pin 5) goes to the reset pin
(pin 10) of the 2nd timer, the astable tone generator.

When the monostable is timing (trigger at pin 6), pin 5 goes high for 3
seconds and enables the oscillator. When it times out after 3 seconds,
pin 5 goes low and resets the audio tone.

You *can* also use separate 555's, both sharing the same power rail but
a 556 is more convenient. Your way is also OK but maybe not quite as
neat.

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Richard Torrens

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>
> Is is possible to use the 3 pin output of a 555 monostable circuit as the
> 5v 8 pin input of another 555 astable circuit (e.g., the first 555 is
> triggered
> by a pulse on pin 2, the output on pin 3 goes for, say, 3 secs--therefore,
> the second 555 has power for 3 seconds, and will sound its 440hz tone
> for three seconds.)
>
> I'm trying to get a predetermined tone and tone length off a short pulse. Is
> there a better way to do this?
>
> Drew Oliver

Try the attached GIF: it is a two tone siren oscillator which may be what you
want. The third section is a speaker driver and can be omitted if not required.

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un...@iap.net.au

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Jun 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/7/96
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<688...@mcimail.com> wrote:


>Is is possible to use the 3 pin output of a 555 monostable circuit as the
>5v 8 pin input of another 555 astable circuit (e.g., the first 555 is triggered
>by a pulse on pin 2, the output on pin 3 goes for, say, 3 secs--therefore,
>the second 555 has power for 3 seconds, and will sound its 440hz tone
>for three seconds.)

>I'm trying to get a predetermined tone and tone length off a short pulse. Is
>there a better way to do this?

>Drew Oliver

For about another 20c, use the output of pin 3 of the first
one to the base of an NPN, (thru a nominal resistor, of
course, like say 1k) this transistor to switch your 5v (or
whatever) to the pin 8 B+ of the next 555.

Uncle Brian VK6BQN

Richard G.

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Jun 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/7/96
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In article GR4DSEAy...@epemag.demon.co.uk,

"Alan R. Winstanley" <al...@epemag.demon.co.uk> said:
>
>In article <4p6pvp$r...@dub-news-svc-6.compuserve.com>,
>688...@mcimail.com writes
>>
>>Is is possible to use the 3 pin output of a 555 monostable circuit as the
>>5v 8 pin input of another 555 astable circuit (e.g., the first 555 is
>triggered
>>by a pulse on pin 2, the output on pin 3 goes for, say, 3 secs--therefore,
>>the second 555 has power for 3 seconds, and will sound its 440hz tone
>>for three seconds.)
>>
>>I'm trying to get a predetermined tone and tone length off a short pulse. Is
>>there a better way to do this?
>>
>
>If you want to build a tone burst generator, with one 555 acting as a 3
>second timer to drive another one, acting as an audio oscillator, then a
>neater way may be to use a twin timer (556).
>
>Output of first 556 (monostable) timer (pin 5) goes to the reset pin
>(pin 10) of the 2nd timer, the astable tone generator.
>

The 555 will operate just fine as you stated. There is, of course a maximum source to consider, but if the oscillator is seperately amplified, you will be okay no matter what.


Richard and/or Clay

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Jun 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/7/96
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Un...@iap.net.au wrote:

>
> <688...@mcimail.com> wrote:
>
> >Is is possible to use the 3 pin output of a 555 monostable circuit as the
> >5v 8 pin input of another 555 astable circuit (e.g., the first 555 is triggered
> >by a pulse on pin 2, the output on pin 3 goes for, say, 3 secs--therefore,
> >the second 555 has power for 3 seconds, and will sound its 440hz tone
> >for three seconds.)
>
> >I'm trying to get a predetermined tone and tone length off a short pulse. Is
> >there a better way to do this?
>
> >Drew Oliver
>
> For about another 20c, use the output of pin 3 of the first
> one to the base of an NPN, (thru a nominal resistor, of
> course, like say 1k) this transistor to switch your 5v (or
> whatever) to the pin 8 B+ of the next 555.
>
> Uncle Brian VK6BQN
The output of the 555 can easily source 200ma. Doesn't seem that a
subsequent stage would sink more than that unless it was sourcing as
much, but that is why you use the amplifier on the oscillator stage.
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Sam Goldwasser

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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> For about another 20c, use the output of pin 3 of the first
> one to the base of an NPN, (thru a nominal resistor, of
> course, like say 1k) this transistor to switch your 5v (or
> whatever) to the pin 8 B+ of the next 555.

Why switch power at all when you can probably just use the reset input
to enable the tone generator?

--- sam

> Uncle Brian VK6BQN


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Richard and/or Clay

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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Standby power consuption on battery operated devices is teh
consideration here.
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